@BeachMommy2B DD was in her own room by 4 weeks. This LO will be the same way unless they start to wake DD up. They will be sharing a room, so we'll see how it goes.
With DD I was sure I'd have her in her own room right off the bat. Then I actually had her and it was like nope, she's staying right here by me. I forget when she did finally move to her own room, but it was when she was getting up just once a night, maybe around 4 months.
What's the reasoning for baby in the room? I've read it reduces SIDS but not sure how
I don't remember where I read it, but I think I read that it helps them to hear your breathing.
Also, I found this.
"The rationale is that having the infant within view and reach makes for easier monitoring, comforting and feeding. Because the baby is nearby, parents might notice any potential difficulty, Jarris said."
We have a guest bed in the nursery that I plan on sleeping in, while LO is in the crib from day 1. Totally off topic, I have my regular appointment yesterday and the doctor said she is really happy with the baby's growth and my blood pressures so far. She said that of course anything can change but if things continue the same I have a good chance of making it to term.
That's such great news for many reasons. Obviously I want the baby to cook as long as possible, but also I'll have accrued more leave for maternity leave by then. And we will be able to schedule the RCS for May 1, My mother in law's birthday. She passed away before DH and I even started dating and even now, her birthday is so hard for him. He would be so happy if we can actually make it to the 1st.
Disclaimer -- I have not read the whole thread of randoms as I post this. But I wanted to share my excitement about something random:
I *think* we got all 3 carseats to fit across the back! I say "I think" just because I'm not sure you could consider them 100% safely installed. The baby seat base is in there solidly, but perhaps only because it's up against another seat. I think that if you took the other seat out, it would be loose. It's on the side and it's partially on that hump part of the seat near the door (I'm quite irritated that all cars have that hump and take away valuable carseat space!) But the two big-kid ones are very stably in there, so I'm willing to keep them this way for a while before we try another arrangement and/or different seats we already own to try to maximize the perfect fit. I'm at least optimistic that we don't need a new car, which is why we wanted to try doing this now. And my two kids are so far (with one car ride together) very excited about the new arrangement. My son is happy to have his seat in the middle instead of the side, because it's a bit higher up being on that middle hump. And with the one car ride they were happy to be closer to each other (I know this will cause problems later, though--they do sometimes reach across the middle to fight as it is, but generally they get along very well.)
@kat81 - That reminds me that we also just fit 3 in a row this week! Apparently you can widen the seat separation between second row seats in an Odyssey and we just did. It's beautiful! Like you our older child is going in the middle.
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I'm also planning on moving the twins out between 3-4 months. And that's if BFing works out. If it doesn't, it'll probably be sooner. ETA: This is assuming that they don't come super early. Then it's a whole different ballgame. >.> <.<
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Is RnP tall enough to keep a smallish (miniature schnauzer) from reaching the baby? I wasn't going to bother with one, but SIL is prob going to give me hers and if the baby likes it...
@kat81 I agree, the little hump thing gets in the way and makes it so much more difficult! I think the recommendation that you put the middle seat in first with nothing around it and get it as tight as possible. And then put the outside seats in, they should all be tight by the belt/latch NOT by the other seats making them tighter. Also, don't forget that the Latch system can't be doubled up. So you can't hook two seats to one Latch bar, and more often than not most cars don't have separate Latch bars for the middle seat. That was always the problem we had when trying to install three across.
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@nda_roxybabe its probably tall enough. I have mine in storage right now so I can't quite check but it should be at least at knee or taller height. If youre getting one fron SIL, I'd take advantage and give it a try regardless!
The RNP was definitely magical for us. But I also just felt we were trading the rough period from immediately when we came home, to 4 mos later when we moved to the crib. Of course every kid is different and not every parent with a brand new kid wants to deal with the rough period immediately.
@nda_roxybabe Certainly don't pass up a free RNP. My guess is babies face would be too elevated for the doggie to reach. We loved ours and hall it out when our friends visit with thier little one, so she has somewhere to sit during dinner. I used it bedside for month or two and then continued to use it while I showered or made dinner. It also was wonderfully portable to take room to room or over to grandma's for a visit. We had no issue with crib transition, but we also lucked out and got a awesome sleeper of a kid.
My dd coslept for a long time bc we had too many health scares and I was terrified (we walked in to find her literally choking once) and until we had an official diagnosis and a few weeks in the clear, I just couldnt seperate us. However by then she was so used to being with me 24/7 that sleep training was a nightmare. This time if there are no health concerns these babies are going to sleep separate but in our room at first because getting up and down all night tonurse after a csection SUCKS. I was given a parenting book about twins and once a baby hits 12 lbs they no longer need to nurseat night, so whenever that is these babies will go to their own cribs. Sleeping with dd for so long was a nightmare so we will do our best to avoid it.
My dd coslept for a long time bc we had too many health scares and I was terrified (we walked in to find her literally choking once) and until we had an official diagnosis and a few weeks in the clear, I just couldnt seperate us. However by then she was so used to being with me 24/7 that sleep training was a nightmare. This time if there are no health concerns these babies are going to sleep separate but in our room at first because getting up and down all night tonurse after a csection SUCKS. I was given a parenting book about twins and once a baby hits 12 lbs they no longer need to nurseat night, so whenever that is these babies will go to their own cribs. Sleeping with dd for so long was a nightmare so we will do our best to avoid it.
I wouldn't go by weight. DD nursed at night until 1. That was likely way too long, but she refused a pacifier and nominated my boobs as one instead. Anyway, I've heard "standard" would be about 6 mos or so.
Agreed, I wouldn't go by weight either. Each kid is different, as well as the parents, which doesn't get said enough. I was the stubborn type that refused to be a constant pacifier, but DD still nursed 2x a night like clockwork well past 12lbs even after sleep training, and then 1x before sleeping through the night. I think she stopped nursing at night by the time she turned 1 or shortly after. There is really no "normal" from what I've seen in my last BMB.
@WombThereItIs@h&pmomma @nda_roxybabe omg that literally makes me feel1000 times better! I think I'm going to start out with the first 6-8 weeks and then go from there. People were making it out like I was crazy for not saying "yes I'm going to have baby in my room till kindergarten" don't get me wrong I don't judge others, but i sleep worse when baby is next to me in the same room.
I feel like having a monitor and sleeping 20 feet from his room with the doors open is not that much different then having him in my room. If anything the monitor amplified the noises sounds more than being next to DD anyway.
Add me to this list of neglectful parents...there is no way this baby is sleeping in my room for the first year. I transitioned my son at 5 weeks and will likely do the same with this one. It was just easier for both of us--he slept better, there was no weird transition period because he was still too young to really know what was going on, and my husband will be working, so it's not fair to him for his sleep to be frequently interrupted. Plus I'm going back to work at 12 weeks and I'm hopeful we will be into some version of a sleep routine at that point.
So what are the thoughts on a Snuza Hero (should I put this in the gear thread)?
Both of my kids came home on Hospital monitors so I returned the ones I bought for them back then, but now I am wondering if I should buy one for this baby.
Maybe this is a huge UO but I don't get the monitor thing at all. I can see how if you had early babies that needed special care you might have a different frame of reference but for healthy full term babies they just seem like a gimmick that plays of people's fears without actually helping.
Oh, I'll definitely accept the RnP AND the Mamaroo she has
@chickyclg I think I want a snuza or owlet. Sometimes I'm like meh, I dont need that. Other times I remember I'm a FTM and I check on the DOG in the middle of the night to make sure he is still breathing and I'm like I totally need that.
@WombThereItIs@h&pmomma @nda_roxybabe omg that literally makes me feel1000 times better! I think I'm going to start out with the first 6-8 weeks and then go from there. People were making it out like I was crazy for not saying "yes I'm going to have baby in my room till kindergarten" don't get me wrong I don't judge others, but i sleep worse when baby is next to me in the same room.
I feel like having a monitor and sleeping 20 feet from his room with the doors open is not that much different then having him in my room. If anything the monitor amplified the noises sounds more than being next to DD anyway.
Add me to this list of neglectful parents...there is no way this baby is sleeping in my room for the first year. I transitioned my son at 5 weeks and will likely do the same with this one. It was just easier for both of us--he slept better, there was no weird transition period because he was still too young to really know what was going on, and my husband will be working, so it's not fair to him for his sleep to be frequently interrupted. Plus I'm going back to work at 12 weeks and I'm hopeful we will be into some version of a sleep routine at that point.
Yep, as soon as this one is old enough to drop down to 1 MOTN feeding he's in his own crib. The twins stayed in our room until 9 months and it was hell, as soon as we were cleared to drop down from every 3 hour feedings, we took full advantage.
We had the Snuza. I started using it once DD slept longer periods of time. Unfortunately longer periods of sleep = fuller and swollen diaper. Because the Snuza clipped to her diaper, as the diaper swelled, the Snuza pulled away from her skin and alarmed. It was terrifying and completely unnecessary. Admittedly, I probably didn't need it at that stage anyway. It might be nice for a newborn.
@WombThereItIs I agree. There is a tremendous amount of fear mongering that is done to scare new parents into parting with money unnecessarily. There are certainly situations that need increased monitoring, but most situations do not warrant it. @nda_roxybabe I will say that I did wake up through the night when baby was near me to check to see if he was breathing (and I have totally done that to my cats too!). It is the reason he stayed in our room as long as he did.
With DS, we kept him in our room in a rock 'n play for about a month I'd say. Then he was making so much noise even while he was asleep that we moved him into his own room for our own sanity. I'll start off with #2 the same way probably, and see how long we last.
Ideally I would just have the baby in the crib (or a bassinet) from the start, but that didn't work for #1. We had to take turns holding him through the night at the hospital because he just would not allow himself to be laid down on a flat surface without getting upset. Once we got home, we tried the rock 'n play and he would actually sleep in there for periods of time so it was worth it. With newborns you're supposed to try to address their needs right away and not let them cry for periods of time just to get them used to sleeping in a crib. So, if they don't take the crib at first, better to transition away from the crib later on in my opinion.
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@WombThereItIs and @Louise_Belcher when I mentioned monitor I mean an audio that will help me hear if baby wakes up. That's all we had with DD, no video, no movement monitor or anything.
That said.... I actually just got a Safe to Sleep monitor today, I wasn't going to get anything like that. But when I went to make my donation for Junior League they had a used one at our thrift store for $30. So i figured I'll try it when baby is tiny then once he gets bigger and rolls around it will be back to an audio for us. If it wouldn't have been so cheap I wouldn't have picked it up.
@BeachMommy2B Agreed. My comment was meant for movement type monitors. I'm not sold on them doing more good then harm. Hard to go back to sleep after a false alarm. We only had audio last go and did perfectly fine too. We actually didn't use it at night. We now have duel video monitors (living room and nursery) and I love it to keep track of him while he is awake. Our house is broken up and he is often out of sight for periods of time while I cook or clean. I don't know what safe to sleep is but I love a great deal and it sounds like you got one!
We bought the Snuza for DD and didn't end up using it. She was in our bedroom for about 7 months. We'll probably keep this one in our room until winter or spring break (7 or 10 months), as those seem to be the best times to transition.
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WombThereItIs I agree with you on the monitors being fear mongering. Some are actually dangerous, and none are recommended by the FDA. I reference the FDA more than I'd like to admit.
On the topic of breathing monitors: Any thoughts or experience with the Owlet monitor? With my first, I was up for hours just watching her sleep since she would slow to near stop - I know newborns have weird breathing patterns, but she would stop for too long for comfort, so I'd tickle her foot or something and she'd return to normal breathing. It kept me up so much and caused a lot of stress. I'm wondering if the Owlet might offer enough peace of mind. Like @NotAPlaya-JustCrushAlot mentioned, I've heard lots about the diaper swelling issue with the Snuza but the Owlet seems legit
Maybe this is a huge UO but I don't get the monitor thing at all. I can see how if you had early babies that needed special care you might have a different frame of reference but for healthy full term babies they just seem like a gimmick that plays of people's fears without actually helping.
I thought this for a while as well but found it so irritating to wake up to my son's sounds and go in to feed him, only to realize he was actually asleep and just doing the sleeping/grunting thing. This is also why video > audio (in a way the audio was the worst of both worlds because the grunts woke us up when we probably ought to have waited until actual crying.)
And when you have an older baby and they're crying, you can look and see if they're crying standing up (you might need to go in) or crying lying down (they might be about to fall asleep) to decide whether you need to take action.
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Also, I found this.
"The rationale is that having the infant within view and reach makes for easier monitoring, comforting and feeding. Because the baby is nearby, parents might notice any potential difficulty, Jarris said."
https://www.google.com/amp/s/consumer.healthday.com/kids-health-information-23/sudden-infant-death-syndrome-sids-news-643/docs-infants-should-share-parents-room-to-help-prevent-sids-716100.html?client=safari
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DD: Born 8/23/13 (clomid+ovidrel+IUI)
BFP 9/9/16 EDD 5/19/17
Married: October 2014
Began TTC: April 2015
BFP #1: 9/18/15. EDD 5/18/16. MC 10/26/15. (9w)
BFP #2: 2/27/16. EDD 11/7/16. MC/D&E 4/20/16 (11w)
BFP #3: 9/22/16. EDD 5/29/17. DS born 4/24/17
BFP #4: 5/20/18. EDD 1/23/19.
We have a guest bed in the nursery that I plan on sleeping in, while LO is in the crib from day 1. Totally off topic, I have my regular appointment yesterday and the doctor said she is really happy with the baby's growth and my blood pressures so far. She said that of course anything can change but if things continue the same I have a good chance of making it to term.
That's such great news for many reasons. Obviously I want the baby to cook as long as possible, but also I'll have accrued more leave for maternity leave by then. And we will be able to schedule the RCS for May 1, My mother in law's birthday. She passed away before DH and I even started dating and even now, her birthday is so hard for him. He would be so happy if we can actually make it to the 1st.
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03.2017 - DD
I *think* we got all 3 carseats to fit across the back! I say "I think" just because I'm not sure you could consider them 100% safely installed. The baby seat base is in there solidly, but perhaps only because it's up against another seat. I think that if you took the other seat out, it would be loose. It's on the side and it's partially on that hump part of the seat near the door (I'm quite irritated that all cars have that hump and take away valuable carseat space!) But the two big-kid ones are very stably in there, so I'm willing to keep them this way for a while before we try another arrangement and/or different seats we already own to try to maximize the perfect fit. I'm at least optimistic that we don't need a new car, which is why we wanted to try doing this now. And my two kids are so far (with one car ride together) very excited about the new arrangement. My son is happy to have his seat in the middle instead of the side, because it's a bit higher up being on that middle hump. And with the one car ride they were happy to be closer to each other (I know this will cause problems later, though--they do sometimes reach across the middle to fight as it is, but generally they get along very well.)
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@WombThereItIs I had to cancel my recent appt. as well, because my job claims I don't have sick pay right now.
Also, MY random of the week is that I just came back from Georgia & it was great. I can not wait to visit our friends again (obviously post baby lol).
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Both of my kids came home on Hospital monitors so I returned the ones I bought for them back then, but now I am wondering if I should buy one for this baby.
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@chickyclg I think I want a snuza or owlet. Sometimes I'm like meh, I dont need that. Other times I remember I'm a FTM and I check on the DOG in the middle of the night to make sure he is still breathing and I'm like I totally need that.
1st Baby 5/12/17, Henry
Yep, as soon as this one is old enough to drop down to 1 MOTN feeding he's in his own crib. The twins stayed in our room until 9 months and it was hell, as soon as we were cleared to drop down from every 3 hour feedings, we took full advantage.
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Ideally I would just have the baby in the crib (or a bassinet) from the start, but that didn't work for #1. We had to take turns holding him through the night at the hospital because he just would not allow himself to be laid down on a flat surface without getting upset. Once we got home, we tried the rock 'n play and he would actually sleep in there for periods of time so it was worth it. With newborns you're supposed to try to address their needs right away and not let them cry for periods of time just to get them used to sleeping in a crib. So, if they don't take the crib at first, better to transition away from the crib later on in my opinion.
DS born 8.11.14
BFP #2: 9.14.16, EDD: 5.24.17
That said.... I actually just got a Safe to Sleep monitor today, I wasn't going to get anything like that. But when I went to make my donation for Junior League they had a used one at our thrift store for $30. So i figured I'll try it when baby is tiny then once he gets bigger and rolls around it will be back to an audio for us. If it wouldn't have been so cheap I wouldn't have picked it up.
1/7/2015 Twins born @ 34 weeks
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DD: Born 8/23/13 (clomid+ovidrel+IUI)
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BFP #1: 9/18/15. EDD 5/18/16. MC 10/26/15. (9w)
BFP #2: 2/27/16. EDD 11/7/16. MC/D&E 4/20/16 (11w)
BFP #3: 9/22/16. EDD 5/29/17. DS born 4/24/17
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With my first, I was up for hours just watching her sleep since she would slow to near stop - I know newborns have weird breathing patterns, but she would stop for too long for comfort, so I'd tickle her foot or something and she'd return to normal breathing. It kept me up so much and caused a lot of stress. I'm wondering if the Owlet might offer enough peace of mind.
Like @NotAPlaya-JustCrushAlot mentioned, I've heard lots about the diaper swelling issue with the Snuza but the Owlet seems legit
And when you have an older baby and they're crying, you can look and see if they're crying standing up (you might need to go in) or crying lying down (they might be about to fall asleep) to decide whether you need to take action.