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^^^June Waiting to O^^^

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Re: ^^^June Waiting to O^^^

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    @SoonToBeMommaHowe It can be so hard that everyone's charts are different. It would be easier if we all fit into a category! 

    I finally got my new BBT thermometer so I have started temping again. I am CD6 today and my shipment of Wondfos should be here tomorrow. I plan to start OPKs on Wednesday so I don't miss it if I have an early O this month, 
    Me: 32 DH: 36
    Married 5/08
    BFP #1: 1/27/13 DS #1 born 10/16/13
    BFP #2: 1/20/16, ectopic discovered 1/23/16
    Surgery 1/23/16 to remove ruptured tube
    TTCAL 3/16
    BFP #3: 3/24/17 EDD 12/5/17
    DS #2 born 12/11/17



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    TWW-er here

    @iceandsnowflakes29 Looking at your chart, I think I did ovulate last Monday (and not Tuesday, which was when my temp started rising). I just hadn't counted Monday because I thought the first rising temp had to be above the other previous temps... But I can't remember where I got that idea. 

    Anyway, so that would make me 7 DPO which... is still too early to POAS? Yes, it is. Just tell me it is. In fact, I'll imagine everyone just slowly nodding and agreeing that I need to wait until Thursday at the earliest to POAS.
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    @dubcompanion IT'S TOO EARLY
    Renee, 34 + Devon, 29 married 08/13 <3
    TTC  09/15
    *TW Loss mentioned*
    BFP 12/15/15 EDD: 08/26/16
    MMC discovered 1/25/16 at 9 +3
    TTCAL 3/2016
    Acupuncture 11/16
    Dx December 2016: unexplained 
    January 2017: 50 mg Clomid + TI =
    BFP #2 01/30/17  Please be a sticky baby!
    EDD: 10/15/17  Measuring ahead! 10/12/17 
    Ambrose born on his due date!

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    @dubcompaniondo you snuck over here thinking I wouldn't see you talking about POAS already. I see how it is, lol. ;-)
    Pregnancy Ticker
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    @reneeannemm Thank you. My hormones needed to hear that. (I, on the other hand, am completely rational and just an innocent person in this TWW cray.)

    @MooFish2364 Well shit, you caught me :lol: I'll head back over there... SIGH...
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    @dubcompanion You are so busted.
    Renee, 34 + Devon, 29 married 08/13 <3
    TTC  09/15
    *TW Loss mentioned*
    BFP 12/15/15 EDD: 08/26/16
    MMC discovered 1/25/16 at 9 +3
    TTCAL 3/2016
    Acupuncture 11/16
    Dx December 2016: unexplained 
    January 2017: 50 mg Clomid + TI =
    BFP #2 01/30/17  Please be a sticky baby!
    EDD: 10/15/17  Measuring ahead! 10/12/17 
    Ambrose born on his due date!

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    @dubcompanion you can run but you can't hide! 
    Pregnancy Ticker
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    So, dumb question after all this time - but what does the green tea do for cm? I am obsessed with drinking stuff and drink green tea all the time, but not daily because there are just so many delicious options available to me! I have an entire cupboard full of tea, plus spillover onto the counter where the kettle lives.
    Renee, 34 + Devon, 29 married 08/13 <3
    TTC  09/15
    *TW Loss mentioned*
    BFP 12/15/15 EDD: 08/26/16
    MMC discovered 1/25/16 at 9 +3
    TTCAL 3/2016
    Acupuncture 11/16
    Dx December 2016: unexplained 
    January 2017: 50 mg Clomid + TI =
    BFP #2 01/30/17  Please be a sticky baby!
    EDD: 10/15/17  Measuring ahead! 10/12/17 
    Ambrose born on his due date!

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    @reneeannemm I honestly can't remember where I read that. I just heard that it's supposed to ramp up cm production. I don't necessarily have problem with the amount of cm...I just never have nice egg white stretchy cm. I only have watery except for about twice in my entire life and that was before TTC. 
    Pregnancy Ticker
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    @MooFish2364 Yes, yes good enough for me! I'll try that this cycle. I don't have ewcm, except during my miscarriage and then last cycle on CD 8. Watery all over my cycle, though. I did grapefruit juice one cycle which did not work. I had soy milk every day last cycle (by accident it got hot and I started having iced lattes) and had that one day of ewcm. Wooo, I'll try anything that doesn't require any hard work on my part  :D
    Renee, 34 + Devon, 29 married 08/13 <3
    TTC  09/15
    *TW Loss mentioned*
    BFP 12/15/15 EDD: 08/26/16
    MMC discovered 1/25/16 at 9 +3
    TTCAL 3/2016
    Acupuncture 11/16
    Dx December 2016: unexplained 
    January 2017: 50 mg Clomid + TI =
    BFP #2 01/30/17  Please be a sticky baby!
    EDD: 10/15/17  Measuring ahead! 10/12/17 
    Ambrose born on his due date!

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    @iceandsnowflakes29 just catching up over here after being away the weekend. I'm so sorry sweetie. big hugs <3
    TW*** Child and loss mentioned
    Married 10/12
    DS 11/14
    Ectopic 2/16
    PCOS/Ovulation Dysfunction 11/16
    IUI x 3- BFN
    Laparoscopy 3/17 Endo and tubal damage
    IVF- 4/17- 40 eggs retrieved, 10 blasts, 7 pgs tested embryos
    FET- 6/17- BFP!
    Due Feb 15, 2017
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    hi ladies! CD15 over here. i'm starting to hate opks, like for real. Last month I never turned one positive, even though O was confirmed with temping and I had a progesterone draw which was 'perfect' according to my ob. Last month I had 3 days of ewcm day 16-18 with temp spike on day 19 signaling O. this month I'm on day 3 of ewcm sitting at CD 15 and no change whatsoever in my OPKs. I'm expecting a temp spike in the next day or so but these OPKs are making me insane. I am testing in the morning and evening everyday for the past week. grrrr. i'm using wondfos.
    TW*** Child and loss mentioned
    Married 10/12
    DS 11/14
    Ectopic 2/16
    PCOS/Ovulation Dysfunction 11/16
    IUI x 3- BFN
    Laparoscopy 3/17 Endo and tubal damage
    IVF- 4/17- 40 eggs retrieved, 10 blasts, 7 pgs tested embryos
    FET- 6/17- BFP!
    Due Feb 15, 2017
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    @brooklyngirl18  what was your progesterone level? 
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    @iceandsnowflakes29 we are twins today, I JUST responded on your other thread. it was 5 on the day we found out about my ectopic pregnancy, 15 when I had it tested after 2 cycles.
    TW*** Child and loss mentioned
    Married 10/12
    DS 11/14
    Ectopic 2/16
    PCOS/Ovulation Dysfunction 11/16
    IUI x 3- BFN
    Laparoscopy 3/17 Endo and tubal damage
    IVF- 4/17- 40 eggs retrieved, 10 blasts, 7 pgs tested embryos
    FET- 6/17- BFP!
    Due Feb 15, 2017
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    @brooklyngirl18 I hate OPKs too and it's only my first cycle using them. I got a clear positive on a Wondfo Saturday (preceded by tons of watery CM) but no temp spike like usual or usual O pains. I'm CD 16 now and I'm wondering if I'm getting a slow rise pattern. I usually spike up hard to above 98 after O and so far I'm not up there yet. Even before temping I always had the usual O signs CD 13 or 14. 

    Or, I'm wondering if I'm even going to ovulate at all this cycle...I dropped 6 pounds in the past 2-3 weeks from this to stomach ulcer (poor appetite and quit coffee cold turkey) and also from working out. I only weigh in the 130s, so that's a decent enough chunk of weight to lose to maybe affect things. Ugh! I'm actually feeling better now from a digestive standpoint, so I do want to try this cycle, after all. Cmon, O!
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    I'm sitting over here on cd 23 like...
    Not even sure I've ovulated yet :neutral: Long cycles suck!
    DH - 34, Me - 32
    Married 7/13
    TTC #1 since 10/13
    BFP 2/4/15, MC twin boys at 18w3d 5/15
    IUI #1 2/25/16

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    @Wishilivedinflorida that sucks so bad, i hope you do O and it's just a slow rise pattern. 
    TW*** Child and loss mentioned
    Married 10/12
    DS 11/14
    Ectopic 2/16
    PCOS/Ovulation Dysfunction 11/16
    IUI x 3- BFN
    Laparoscopy 3/17 Endo and tubal damage
    IVF- 4/17- 40 eggs retrieved, 10 blasts, 7 pgs tested embryos
    FET- 6/17- BFP!
    Due Feb 15, 2017
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    Anyone out there have to go on Clomid after their loss?  Turns out I wasn't Oing, so the doc put me on Clomid.  Now I'm worried I either missed my O window, or it hasn't come yet ... I'm on CD15 ... OPKs havent  really shown a "true" positive. Just curious if anyone has had the same results...?
    Me: 27  DH: 28
    Married since 2011
    DS#1: 10/10/2013
    TTC #2: since March 2015
    BFP#1: 11/12/15
    MC: 11/20/15 
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    @paigeamcnulty It sounds like you're not being monitored on Clomid. Is your doctor doing ultrasounds? I'm not trying to scare you, but it's really not a drug that should just be given without some monitoring to confirm ovulation by your doctor (and also tests to make sure your tubes are open first). It has a lifetime limit of only 6 uses and can ultimately have bad side effects if not properly monitored. Are you temping? That may clear up some confusion for you as well. 

    Can I get a chart stalk? I'm thinking I'm having a slow rise pattern here. Also, I know I'm missing a temp so that doesn't help. 


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    @Wishilivedinflorida I'm not really good with Fahrenheit but it looks like you may have ovulated CD 15 or 16. I often get a dip the day before or the day of ovulation and I have had the slow rise a couple of times. 
    Renee, 34 + Devon, 29 married 08/13 <3
    TTC  09/15
    *TW Loss mentioned*
    BFP 12/15/15 EDD: 08/26/16
    MMC discovered 1/25/16 at 9 +3
    TTCAL 3/2016
    Acupuncture 11/16
    Dx December 2016: unexplained 
    January 2017: 50 mg Clomid + TI =
    BFP #2 01/30/17  Please be a sticky baby!
    EDD: 10/15/17  Measuring ahead! 10/12/17 
    Ambrose born on his due date!

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    Thanks, @reneeannemm. That's what I'm thinking as well. It always helps to have a second set of eyes on it. Guess I better chop up my pineapple and move over to TWW! 
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    @Wishilivedinflorida Your temp tomorrow should confirm for you one way or the other, I think.

    Which reminds me, I should go buy a pineapple so it's delicious and ripe in a week from now. Do I have a cycle buddy around here?? Should O in around a week.
    Renee, 34 + Devon, 29 married 08/13 <3
    TTC  09/15
    *TW Loss mentioned*
    BFP 12/15/15 EDD: 08/26/16
    MMC discovered 1/25/16 at 9 +3
    TTCAL 3/2016
    Acupuncture 11/16
    Dx December 2016: unexplained 
    January 2017: 50 mg Clomid + TI =
    BFP #2 01/30/17  Please be a sticky baby!
    EDD: 10/15/17  Measuring ahead! 10/12/17 
    Ambrose born on his due date!

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    @Wishilivedinflorida i agree with @reneeannemm that you probably O'd cd15 or 16. i had a little temp drop last month before shooting up, similar to yours. good luck, see you on the other side! CD16 and waiting waiting waiting
    TW*** Child and loss mentioned
    Married 10/12
    DS 11/14
    Ectopic 2/16
    PCOS/Ovulation Dysfunction 11/16
    IUI x 3- BFN
    Laparoscopy 3/17 Endo and tubal damage
    IVF- 4/17- 40 eggs retrieved, 10 blasts, 7 pgs tested embryos
    FET- 6/17- BFP!
    Due Feb 15, 2017
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    CD12 here and my temps have been pretty wonky, trying not to fret about it too much though. Have been having disrupted sleep the past few nights thanks to my precious fur babies so I am sure that is not helping!
    Married: June 2011
    TTC #1: September 2015-January 2016
    BFP #1: 1/25/16 - MMC Diagnosed 3/22/16
    TTCAL: June 2016
    BFP #2: 8/26/16 - EDD 5/9/17
    Jackson born 5/6/17 at 8:36 PM - 9lbs 5oz & 21in
      Baby Birthday Ticker Ticker
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    @Wishilivedinflorida I would probably say 15. It's hard without that CD 14 temperature to get an accurate view. Are your pre-o temps normally as high as they are on 10/11/12? Looks like you had good coverage regardless!
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    @BornReady No, the pre-o temps are usually a tiny bit lower. What's really throwing me off is that my immediate post-o temps have always been over 98 before (like 98.2-98.3ish). I've never had this weird pattern. I could kick myself for sleeping on the couch all night on CD14 and missing that temp! 

    ETA: I think FF is drunk because if I put in two more fake high temps for the next two days it puts dotted crosshairs over CD13. Is FF very biased to CM? I almost always get fertile CM a day or two before O, almost never on the day of. It would seem in my case that the positive OPK and temp dip would make more sense to pick up O. Who knows? I'm fairly confident if I did O, it already happened. 
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    chart stalk request!  :)

    Okay, I can identify O but, I'm trying to see if my period is on the way. I'm so over this cycle and ready to get CD1 over with. I've never used charting to look for signs of AF. I've only used it to confirm O and look for crazy. I'm wondering if today's drop is significant enough to be a sign of AF? Or is it still too high above the CL? I'm 16 dpo with nothing but a smidge of spotting and butt ton of cramps. I'm broke out all over my freaking face! TIA! 


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    @Wishilivedinflorida they are having me come back next week to do a blood draw to see if I ovulated, but nothing else other then that. The doc just told me to use OPKs and to do the BD. I'm not super pumped about the Clomid, and if it doesn't work for me this round I'll most likely see what else I can do. I don't like the idea of only being able to use it 6 times in a lifetime...little scary!
    Me: 27  DH: 28
    Married since 2011
    DS#1: 10/10/2013
    TTC #2: since March 2015
    BFP#1: 11/12/15
    MC: 11/20/15 
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    @Wishilivedinflorida they are having me come back next week to do a blood draw to see if I ovulated, but nothing else other then that. The doc just told me to use OPKs and to do the BD. I'm not super pumped about the Clomid, and if it doesn't work for me this round I'll most likely see what else I can do. I don't like the idea of only being able to use it 6 times in a lifetime...little scary!
    I think @Wishilivedinflorida will agree when I say, please ask your OB to check your lining and monitor the number of your follicles. Clomid has a risk of multiples and can thin your lining making implantation impossible. It can also dry up your CM. I'm pretty sure that what comes after clomid is injectables which, also require monitoring. Just be careful and talk to OB. If you had posted this on TTGP they would have flamed you into next Wednesday. I'm not flaming you. I would just adamantly demand more monitoring.  Good luck! 
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    @iceandsnowflakes29 I actually wonder if you really ovulated on CD 15. I am curious if you had more pre-O temps what would happen to your cross hairs. Just a thought! That would put you at 14DPO today and that temp drop would make sense. Is your luteal phase normally 16 days?


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    @BornReady  no. My LP has never been 16 days. And FF moved my CHS to CD 15 so, I bet your right. Here is today's chart .  I'm really anxious to just get this month over with. Thank you!
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    @BornReady  FF has my CD1 being tomorrow. I really hope it is right. 
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    @iceandsnowflakes29 not to be Debbie downer but low progesterone levels can cause wonky cycles. In one of your other posts you said your progesterone was only 5 so perhaps that's why your cycle is off
    DH - 34, Me - 32
    Married 7/13
    TTC #1 since 10/13
    BFP 2/4/15, MC twin boys at 18w3d 5/15
    IUI #1 2/25/16

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    @iceandsnowflakes29 My temp usually doesn't drop down really low until I'm well into AF or even the day after it's finished (only 3/4 days anyhow). I do get a small drop on CD 10 that has so far let me know she's on her way, though. I don't think you can always use your temps to predict it, at least I can't.
    Renee, 34 + Devon, 29 married 08/13 <3
    TTC  09/15
    *TW Loss mentioned*
    BFP 12/15/15 EDD: 08/26/16
    MMC discovered 1/25/16 at 9 +3
    TTCAL 3/2016
    Acupuncture 11/16
    Dx December 2016: unexplained 
    January 2017: 50 mg Clomid + TI =
    BFP #2 01/30/17  Please be a sticky baby!
    EDD: 10/15/17  Measuring ahead! 10/12/17 
    Ambrose born on his due date!

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    @iceandsnowflakes29 not to be Debbie downer but low progesterone levels can cause wonky cycles. In one of your other posts you said your progesterone was only 5 so perhaps that's why your cycle is off
    That's why I want af so bad! I want to have it tested on CD 21. 
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    @iceandsnowflakes29 not to be Debbie downer but low progesterone levels can cause wonky cycles. In one of your other posts you said your progesterone was only 5 so perhaps that's why your cycle is off
    That's why I want af so bad! I want to have it tested on CD 21. 
    I know I hate it, my cycles are so screwy anywhere from 36-50 days, ugh. Just remember don't necessarily go for cd21, do 7 dpo. You previously mentioned that one cycle you didn't ovulate until cd22 so if you scheduled a cd21 draw that cycle you'd come up with crazy low numbers and still be perfectly normal 
    DH - 34, Me - 32
    Married 7/13
    TTC #1 since 10/13
    BFP 2/4/15, MC twin boys at 18w3d 5/15
    IUI #1 2/25/16

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    I don't know how to steel myself against another oncoming merry-go-round of hope and crushing defeat. This is my favourite part of each cycle - after the pain of AF has passed and before sex becomes perfunctory and mechanical. Maybe I'll skip OPKs and aim for EOD until ovulation is confirmed.
    Renee, 34 + Devon, 29 married 08/13 <3
    TTC  09/15
    *TW Loss mentioned*
    BFP 12/15/15 EDD: 08/26/16
    MMC discovered 1/25/16 at 9 +3
    TTCAL 3/2016
    Acupuncture 11/16
    Dx December 2016: unexplained 
    January 2017: 50 mg Clomid + TI =
    BFP #2 01/30/17  Please be a sticky baby!
    EDD: 10/15/17  Measuring ahead! 10/12/17 
    Ambrose born on his due date!

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    CD 17 and still no O but 5 days of ewcm. FIVE DAYS! wtf body get it together and release that egg. gahhhh it's making me insane. I've been using opks twice a day for a week now and i *think* this morning's strip was slightly darker than previous ones so hopefully tomorrow will be O day. 
    TW*** Child and loss mentioned
    Married 10/12
    DS 11/14
    Ectopic 2/16
    PCOS/Ovulation Dysfunction 11/16
    IUI x 3- BFN
    Laparoscopy 3/17 Endo and tubal damage
    IVF- 4/17- 40 eggs retrieved, 10 blasts, 7 pgs tested embryos
    FET- 6/17- BFP!
    Due Feb 15, 2017
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    It's about that time so I am diving into the OPKs tomorrow morning and joining in on all the insanity. I haven't done them in a few months, just temping, so I will have to get back into the habit. I ended up getting the Wondfos, but I really thought about getting the clear blue monitor so I didn't have to interpret anything
    Me: 32 DH: 36
    Married 5/08
    BFP #1: 1/27/13 DS #1 born 10/16/13
    BFP #2: 1/20/16, ectopic discovered 1/23/16
    Surgery 1/23/16 to remove ruptured tube
    TTCAL 3/16
    BFP #3: 3/24/17 EDD 12/5/17
    DS #2 born 12/11/17



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    @SoonToBeMommaHowe Now you have me wondering about my progesterone. My cycles have never really stabilized since January and my O day and LP length are all over the place. 
    Me: 32 DH: 36
    Married 5/08
    BFP #1: 1/27/13 DS #1 born 10/16/13
    BFP #2: 1/20/16, ectopic discovered 1/23/16
    Surgery 1/23/16 to remove ruptured tube
    TTCAL 3/16
    BFP #3: 3/24/17 EDD 12/5/17
    DS #2 born 12/11/17



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