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Waiting for AF after MC

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Re: Waiting for AF after MC

  • @MimoCa My body is a mess. Yesterday I had EWCM at CD 21..what? I'm super regular and I always O on CD 14/15...even during my 1st cycle after 5 years of nonstop birth control. Other than that I have cramps. Cant wait for AF to get here! 

    Same here...was only pg for 9 weeks, but this PMS is driving me crazy. I'm hoping this week will be your week for AF :smile:
    Me 29, DH 32
    Married: 03/2014
    BFP: 08/20/16, Blighted ovum 9/26/16 (8 weeks 4 days), D&C 9/28/16 (8 weeks 6 days)
    BFP: 12/16/16  => DD born 08/27/2017
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  • @endo_mom yes I think I had ewcm yesterday morning too and a few days before I kept thinking AF was here but just CM. Now I'm all cramps, bloated, slightly nauseated so I'm thinking AF is coming back with a vengence!!!
  • @weareturtles, you're the only other vet I've seen on these boards! Sorry for your loss.
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  • @allowachick @endo_mom @MimoCa

    Just checking in to say "me too!" My loss (first pregnancy at 11w5d) was 10/1, and while I want to see AF (maybe "due" at the end of the month?) to know that things are "working" that way, I secretly kinda don't (gambling).  Doctor's office didn't care to track me down to 0 (I've actually never had any betas ever, so the 100 opk/20 hpt pack of Wondfos I bought back in July (used to get BFP in August - I had 87 OPKs left) is being put to good use!

    But still frustrating as temps, CM, and even OPKs seem kind of all over the place (have had negative HPTs so shouldn't be leftover hcg - if I even O at all this month).  But the only time (this being my second cycle using them) I've seen my opk test line *darker* than the control was when I was playing using it as hpt.

    I'm 39 and impatient...
    About me:
    Married 6/18/16 (Me 42, DH 44), TTC #2
    ***TW***
    Natural BFP 8/10/16 --> mc our NIPT-normal little girl at 11w5d on 10/1/16 :(
    As of 12/2016:  AMH 1.42, FSH 6.1, AFC ~10
    Self-benched Nov-Dec 2016 for
    IVF #1 Jan-Feb 2017 (OCP, testosterone primed antagonist w/HGH - ER 2/2/17 - 12R, 7M ICSI'd, 3F, 0B)
    IVF #2 Mar-Apr 2017 (testosterone primed agonist/luteal lupron w/HGH - ER 4/8/17 - 10R, 8M, 8F, 5B, 1 PGS normal)
    IVF #3 May-Jun 2017 (testosterone primed agonist/luteal lupron w/HGH - ER 6/4/17 - 14R, 5F, 3B, 0 normal)
    **New RE**
    IVF #4 Sept 2017 (natural start microdose lupron flare w/HGH - ER 9/28/17 - 33R, 18F, 10B, 4 PGS normals!)
    FET #1 (medicated) of one PGS normal 4AA XX 11/2/17 - Beta #1 11/11/17 (153), Beta #2 11/13/17 (324), mc at 5w1d on 11/19/17 :(
    IVF #5 Dec 2017 - Insemination of 9 frozen eggs from 2012 (8F, 1B, 0 normal)
    Jan 2018 - Natural cycle ERA (normal/receptive) & stimming for
    IVF #6 Jan-Feb 2018 (natural start microdose lupron flare w/HGH - ER 2/3/18 - 17R, 6M, 4F, 0 blasts)
    IVF #7 Feb 2018 (natural start microdose lupron flare w/HGH - ER 2/26/18 - 19R, 9M, 9F, 4B, 2 PGS normals)
    FET #2 Apr 2018 (natural cycle w/o trigger, w/P4 support) of one PGS normal 4AA- XX 4/5/18 - Beta #1 4/14/18 (67), Beta #2 4/16/18 (231)
    Rainbow baby girl born 12/16/2018 (via c-section, induced at 39 weeks)

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    TFAS!
    FET #3 Dec 2019 (natural cycle w/o trigger, w/P4 support) of one PGS normal 3BB XY 12/16/19 - Beta #1 12/24/19 (139), Beta #2 12/27/19 (482)

    Lilypie Maternity tickers
  • starfish827starfish827 member
    edited October 2016
    @MimoCa bloated + nausea...perhaps you gambled and won? Have you tried HPT? Didnt you mention you had 0 HCG last week...perhaps its good news that AF is not here? :smile: 

    @artemis618 Same here. My Dr. is not tracking HCG down so I'm relying on HPTs. Today I got the faintest line...but I guess its still considered positive :neutral: Never in my life I though I would be dissapointed with a + HPT....the irony. OPKs are crazy for me as well. I'm also expecting AF by the end of the month (hopefully) and this was also my first pregnancy.
    Me 29, DH 32
    Married: 03/2014
    BFP: 08/20/16, Blighted ovum 9/26/16 (8 weeks 4 days), D&C 9/28/16 (8 weeks 6 days)
    BFP: 12/16/16  => DD born 08/27/2017
  • @endo_mom welp. I don't know. I tried HPT but negative sooooo..... Additionally I was HCG 0 6 weeks ago so I think my body just hates me and I've never won at gambling but I'll test again on Friday and see. I don't want to get my hopes up.
  • That sucks that you ladies' doctors are tracking your hcg down :(
  • @MimoCa  I am jumping on the body hating me train.... Woke up with a fever today and bright red bleeding.  I was so groggy I was like, yeah AF!!! Then I realized my HCG is still in the 1000s (hopefully in the triple digits tomorrow when I get retested.)  I also broke the crown on my tooth and would up in emergency dentist's chair.  When it rains, it pours!
  • @justsuzie oh no! hope everything is ok!

  • starfish827starfish827 member
    edited October 2016
    @justsuzie Hope you recover soon. I am sorry about the dentist incident. Sending you positive vibes :smile: 

    @MimoCa I am rooting for news for you in the next days.

    I found a good article that answered some of my questions

     https://www.pregnancyloss.info/waitingforaf.htm
    Me 29, DH 32
    Married: 03/2014
    BFP: 08/20/16, Blighted ovum 9/26/16 (8 weeks 4 days), D&C 9/28/16 (8 weeks 6 days)
    BFP: 12/16/16  => DD born 08/27/2017
  • Update: Finally got a BFN today 3 weeks post D&C. :smile: now the wait continues...
    Me 29, DH 32
    Married: 03/2014
    BFP: 08/20/16, Blighted ovum 9/26/16 (8 weeks 4 days), D&C 9/28/16 (8 weeks 6 days)
    BFP: 12/16/16  => DD born 08/27/2017
  • @endo_mom yes! Hopefully you won't have to wait too long for AF!
  • Good morning ladies, how are we all doing today?
  • Morning!  FF gave me tentative (dotted) x-hairs this AM, so maybe encouraged? I don't know if I can believe it given my somewhat suspect inputs (opks, temps high till 8 days after loss, almost non-existent CM - plus we were camping over the weekend), but I'll take it for today!
    About me:
    Married 6/18/16 (Me 42, DH 44), TTC #2
    ***TW***
    Natural BFP 8/10/16 --> mc our NIPT-normal little girl at 11w5d on 10/1/16 :(
    As of 12/2016:  AMH 1.42, FSH 6.1, AFC ~10
    Self-benched Nov-Dec 2016 for
    IVF #1 Jan-Feb 2017 (OCP, testosterone primed antagonist w/HGH - ER 2/2/17 - 12R, 7M ICSI'd, 3F, 0B)
    IVF #2 Mar-Apr 2017 (testosterone primed agonist/luteal lupron w/HGH - ER 4/8/17 - 10R, 8M, 8F, 5B, 1 PGS normal)
    IVF #3 May-Jun 2017 (testosterone primed agonist/luteal lupron w/HGH - ER 6/4/17 - 14R, 5F, 3B, 0 normal)
    **New RE**
    IVF #4 Sept 2017 (natural start microdose lupron flare w/HGH - ER 9/28/17 - 33R, 18F, 10B, 4 PGS normals!)
    FET #1 (medicated) of one PGS normal 4AA XX 11/2/17 - Beta #1 11/11/17 (153), Beta #2 11/13/17 (324), mc at 5w1d on 11/19/17 :(
    IVF #5 Dec 2017 - Insemination of 9 frozen eggs from 2012 (8F, 1B, 0 normal)
    Jan 2018 - Natural cycle ERA (normal/receptive) & stimming for
    IVF #6 Jan-Feb 2018 (natural start microdose lupron flare w/HGH - ER 2/3/18 - 17R, 6M, 4F, 0 blasts)
    IVF #7 Feb 2018 (natural start microdose lupron flare w/HGH - ER 2/26/18 - 19R, 9M, 9F, 4B, 2 PGS normals)
    FET #2 Apr 2018 (natural cycle w/o trigger, w/P4 support) of one PGS normal 4AA- XX 4/5/18 - Beta #1 4/14/18 (67), Beta #2 4/16/18 (231)
    Rainbow baby girl born 12/16/2018 (via c-section, induced at 39 weeks)

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    TFAS!
    FET #3 Dec 2019 (natural cycle w/o trigger, w/P4 support) of one PGS normal 3BB XY 12/16/19 - Beta #1 12/24/19 (139), Beta #2 12/27/19 (482)

    Lilypie Maternity tickers
  • Hello! Feeling ok...I started BBT 2 days ago (0.5 temp spike this morning) and had cramps today. I really hope its AF coming and not delayed ovulation due to D&C. :neutral: 

    @artemis618 Have you been charting after your MC? I'm new to BBT charting, but judging by symptoms I'm sure my chart would have looked strange this month. Yay for the dotted line! :smile:
    Me 29, DH 32
    Married: 03/2014
    BFP: 08/20/16, Blighted ovum 9/26/16 (8 weeks 4 days), D&C 9/28/16 (8 weeks 6 days)
    BFP: 12/16/16  => DD born 08/27/2017
  • artemis618artemis618 member
    edited October 2016
    @endo_mom I started temping 10/3 (loss was 10/1) just 'cause I was out of town at my parents (actually en route when I started :-/) and didn't have my thermometer with me (didn't think I'd have any need for it!). I'm a little neurotic and like to know what's going on if I can tell.  I didn't get down to my range of pre-O temps from my only frame of reference till 10/9.

    I kind of wish that I'd temped a couple of cycles before the wedding/ttc so I'd have more of a clue, but I didn't.  I only temped my July cycle and it "worked" so haven't tracked a full ovulatory/non-KU cycle yet.  But I understood temp drops just before AF? (not what you want to hear, I know, but bear in mind I've only temped one cycle and didn't get AF for that one so don't really know!)
    About me:
    Married 6/18/16 (Me 42, DH 44), TTC #2
    ***TW***
    Natural BFP 8/10/16 --> mc our NIPT-normal little girl at 11w5d on 10/1/16 :(
    As of 12/2016:  AMH 1.42, FSH 6.1, AFC ~10
    Self-benched Nov-Dec 2016 for
    IVF #1 Jan-Feb 2017 (OCP, testosterone primed antagonist w/HGH - ER 2/2/17 - 12R, 7M ICSI'd, 3F, 0B)
    IVF #2 Mar-Apr 2017 (testosterone primed agonist/luteal lupron w/HGH - ER 4/8/17 - 10R, 8M, 8F, 5B, 1 PGS normal)
    IVF #3 May-Jun 2017 (testosterone primed agonist/luteal lupron w/HGH - ER 6/4/17 - 14R, 5F, 3B, 0 normal)
    **New RE**
    IVF #4 Sept 2017 (natural start microdose lupron flare w/HGH - ER 9/28/17 - 33R, 18F, 10B, 4 PGS normals!)
    FET #1 (medicated) of one PGS normal 4AA XX 11/2/17 - Beta #1 11/11/17 (153), Beta #2 11/13/17 (324), mc at 5w1d on 11/19/17 :(
    IVF #5 Dec 2017 - Insemination of 9 frozen eggs from 2012 (8F, 1B, 0 normal)
    Jan 2018 - Natural cycle ERA (normal/receptive) & stimming for
    IVF #6 Jan-Feb 2018 (natural start microdose lupron flare w/HGH - ER 2/3/18 - 17R, 6M, 4F, 0 blasts)
    IVF #7 Feb 2018 (natural start microdose lupron flare w/HGH - ER 2/26/18 - 19R, 9M, 9F, 4B, 2 PGS normals)
    FET #2 Apr 2018 (natural cycle w/o trigger, w/P4 support) of one PGS normal 4AA- XX 4/5/18 - Beta #1 4/14/18 (67), Beta #2 4/16/18 (231)
    Rainbow baby girl born 12/16/2018 (via c-section, induced at 39 weeks)

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    TFAS!
    FET #3 Dec 2019 (natural cycle w/o trigger, w/P4 support) of one PGS normal 3BB XY 12/16/19 - Beta #1 12/24/19 (139), Beta #2 12/27/19 (482)

    Lilypie Maternity tickers
  • @endo_mom FX AF is coming for you soon! sounds promising! I tried BBT charting but I could never wake up at the appropriate time and unknowingly bought a crappy CVS thermometer lol.

    @artemis618  Wouldn't hurt to BD anyway right during the X hairs even if its suspect lol!
  • artemis618artemis618 member
    edited October 2016
    @MimoCa If FF is right (shifted on O me with the dotted lines this AM), our timing would actually be -2, -1, 0, +1 (which would actually be better than the -5, -3, -1, 0 that worked for us in July).  Of course we were advised to wait a cycle (AF expected maybe end of the month), but we were camping over the weekend (gambling)...Who knows?
    About me:
    Married 6/18/16 (Me 42, DH 44), TTC #2
    ***TW***
    Natural BFP 8/10/16 --> mc our NIPT-normal little girl at 11w5d on 10/1/16 :(
    As of 12/2016:  AMH 1.42, FSH 6.1, AFC ~10
    Self-benched Nov-Dec 2016 for
    IVF #1 Jan-Feb 2017 (OCP, testosterone primed antagonist w/HGH - ER 2/2/17 - 12R, 7M ICSI'd, 3F, 0B)
    IVF #2 Mar-Apr 2017 (testosterone primed agonist/luteal lupron w/HGH - ER 4/8/17 - 10R, 8M, 8F, 5B, 1 PGS normal)
    IVF #3 May-Jun 2017 (testosterone primed agonist/luteal lupron w/HGH - ER 6/4/17 - 14R, 5F, 3B, 0 normal)
    **New RE**
    IVF #4 Sept 2017 (natural start microdose lupron flare w/HGH - ER 9/28/17 - 33R, 18F, 10B, 4 PGS normals!)
    FET #1 (medicated) of one PGS normal 4AA XX 11/2/17 - Beta #1 11/11/17 (153), Beta #2 11/13/17 (324), mc at 5w1d on 11/19/17 :(
    IVF #5 Dec 2017 - Insemination of 9 frozen eggs from 2012 (8F, 1B, 0 normal)
    Jan 2018 - Natural cycle ERA (normal/receptive) & stimming for
    IVF #6 Jan-Feb 2018 (natural start microdose lupron flare w/HGH - ER 2/3/18 - 17R, 6M, 4F, 0 blasts)
    IVF #7 Feb 2018 (natural start microdose lupron flare w/HGH - ER 2/26/18 - 19R, 9M, 9F, 4B, 2 PGS normals)
    FET #2 Apr 2018 (natural cycle w/o trigger, w/P4 support) of one PGS normal 4AA- XX 4/5/18 - Beta #1 4/14/18 (67), Beta #2 4/16/18 (231)
    Rainbow baby girl born 12/16/2018 (via c-section, induced at 39 weeks)

    -----
    TFAS!
    FET #3 Dec 2019 (natural cycle w/o trigger, w/P4 support) of one PGS normal 3BB XY 12/16/19 - Beta #1 12/24/19 (139), Beta #2 12/27/19 (482)

    Lilypie Maternity tickers
  • @artemis618 It can get pretty chilly in the woods at night ;). They say to wait a cycle anyways so that they can date it properly but technology has advanced since the 50s lol.
  • starfish827starfish827 member
    edited October 2016
    @artemis618 I think temps drop before AF. Ive only been tracking my cycle with OPKs since June although we only started TTC in August. You should be covered either way with the BD. The month I got pg we only BD twice on -1 and 0.

    Wishing you luck this cycle. I hope the gambling pays off for one of us (or all) 
    BTW, I have never ever won anything gambling so I'm relying on all of you :smile: No pressure

    I hope you ladies do something fun during the weekend or just relax to keep the mind away from the wait for a little bit. 
    Me 29, DH 32
    Married: 03/2014
    BFP: 08/20/16, Blighted ovum 9/26/16 (8 weeks 4 days), D&C 9/28/16 (8 weeks 6 days)
    BFP: 12/16/16  => DD born 08/27/2017
  • @endo_mom I have never won anything gambling either lol! Last time I got pregnant I BD twice too and I wasn't tracking at all. Still not tracking cause I'm crap at it but who knows. Still sore breasts and really painful tailbone started yesterday. Heard that might be AF related too. one can hope for either lol!
  • Happy Friday ladies! I took an HPT to see, but BFN. I don't mind, more relieved really but still I need AF to come before November otherwise my doctor wants to give me medication to jump start it. Booo. I'm only really annoyed since my HCG were at 0 for so long now. And my nipples,and back really hurt.

    How are you ladies?
  • @MimoCa Sorry about the BFN, but for sure its a relieve...I'm over analyzing every little symptom. So far, my PMS is exactly like pg..nausea, sore boobs, fatigue. I talked to the nurse today since I have my follow up appointment next week and she said sometimes the first AF symptoms can be like pg symptoms. Here's to hoping AF shows up next week for both of us!
    Me 29, DH 32
    Married: 03/2014
    BFP: 08/20/16, Blighted ovum 9/26/16 (8 weeks 4 days), D&C 9/28/16 (8 weeks 6 days)
    BFP: 12/16/16  => DD born 08/27/2017
  • MimoCaMimoCa member
    edited October 2016
    @endo_mom  oh how lovely!! So we get to have our hopes up before the witch arrives lol
  • Hi ladies! No update here...still waiting for AF. Hoping next week is our week. Enjoy the rest of the weekend :smile:
    Me 29, DH 32
    Married: 03/2014
    BFP: 08/20/16, Blighted ovum 9/26/16 (8 weeks 4 days), D&C 9/28/16 (8 weeks 6 days)
    BFP: 12/16/16  => DD born 08/27/2017
  • Me too! Still playing the waiting game :(
  • Ladies...I went to my follow up...mixed feelings. The nurse asked about my LMP...like I was pregnant..ughh. Doctor did an exam...said things look good. He said AF could come tomorrow or in 2 months since everybody is different YAY!!! :neutral: I'm due for my pap smear, but he wanted to wait because D&C might trigger false positives. I asked if he can see me earlier when I get pregnant next time. He said he prefers 8 weeks since at 6 weeks it might give me a false sense of security and he doesnt want to get my hopes up. Since my MC was empty sac and no baby...seeing a baby at 6 weeks would actually give me peace of mind..but oh well... other than that nothing else to report. 

    How are you ladies feeling? Anything fun planned for this week?
    Me 29, DH 32
    Married: 03/2014
    BFP: 08/20/16, Blighted ovum 9/26/16 (8 weeks 4 days), D&C 9/28/16 (8 weeks 6 days)
    BFP: 12/16/16  => DD born 08/27/2017
  • @MimoCa Great news!!!! :smile:  I'm looking forward to hear from your next test. Fx 
    Me 29, DH 32
    Married: 03/2014
    BFP: 08/20/16, Blighted ovum 9/26/16 (8 weeks 4 days), D&C 9/28/16 (8 weeks 6 days)
    BFP: 12/16/16  => DD born 08/27/2017
  • @MimoCa Congrats! Hopefully your next tests give you more confidence. 

    As a favor to the ladies on this board, could you please edit your post and add "****TW****" to the top of your post (trigger warning)? BFPs are hard to see for a lot of people on this board, especially ones having a rough TTCAL day, and trigger warnings help them skip over your post if they need to.
  • @endo_mom I hated my last Doctor's visit too and they told me the same thing about not seeing it early even with a MC. Its annoying because you will never be secure about it until actually seeing the baby. 
  • No worries @MimoCa. Thanks for adding it!

    @endo_mom Ugh. I'm so sorry your doctor won't do an earlier ultrasound. My last MC was also a blighted ovum. Sac, yolk sac, but no baby. I'd be encouraged to see a baby on a 6 week ultrasound too. Why can't pregnancy be easier to predict?
  • I often feel like back in the day at least ignorance was bliss. You probably wouldn't know until you were a bit further along but I guess that doesn't trump modern technology, medicines, somewhat equal rights lol.
  • @RiverSong15 I guess since they see so many MCs, for them it becomes normal...I think it's hard to understand the emotional roller coaster women go through...especially for a male doctor. He kept saying it won't happen again since it was just bad luck...somehow he thought that would cheer me up :neutral: I kept asking how can I know next time if its a blighted ovum (blood or something). He assured me there's no way to know until the ultrasound. He probably thinks I'm paranoid :smile: 

    @MimoCa I know...mixed feelings about technology...I'm happy its there but a loss after seeing a baby is harder. My mom never had an US with me...she didnt even know the gender before hand. I cannot imagine me doing that now in this culture where everything is NOW :smile: 
    Me 29, DH 32
    Married: 03/2014
    BFP: 08/20/16, Blighted ovum 9/26/16 (8 weeks 4 days), D&C 9/28/16 (8 weeks 6 days)
    BFP: 12/16/16  => DD born 08/27/2017
  • @MimoCa FX for you!

    ******TW*******
    @endo_mom and @RiverSong15 I really thought seeing the baby would make me feel better too because I did not with my first two. This last pregnancy we saw the baby and even the heartbeat. One week later, there was no heartbeat. This loss was by far the most devastating because I really thought we would have our rainbow that we saw. Maybe that will help with having to wait until 8 weeks? This process that should be so exciting and happy, is now very stressful and heartbreaking. I pray that we all get our exciting and happy one very soon.
    **TW - Loss & Child mentioned**
    Me: 40  DH: 47
    Married: 10/2015
    DSD: 17
    BFP #1: 6/2/15, ectopic, metho 7/15
    BFP #2: 12/4/15, cp 12/7/15
    BFP #3: 8/5/16, MMC discovered 9/1, Misoprostol 9/19
    BFP #4: 5/10/17, EDD 1/20/2018
    Baby boy born January 12, 2018, 6 lbs 3.3 oz, 20.5 in.

  • TW - living children


    @endo_mom I didn't know sex with my first child and it was so cool to have a real surprise. That being said, friends and family were downright rude and offensive because we opted not to find out. Now 3 years later it is the cool thing to not find out.

  • MimoCaMimoCa member
    edited October 2016
    *************TW************

    I think about it and look back on my grandmother's time and even recently where DH is from and it was very common for women to have multiple still births and an astounding infant mortality rate. So much so to the point it is deems bad luck in our culture to have baby showers and any of the sort of fun things associated with pregnancy. In one way technology has definitely lessen these numbers but sometimes I think, well if I never took the pregnancy test in the first place or gone to the doctor I would not have known I was pregnant and thusly been aware of an MC. Always a but, and what if. Life can be so confusing and frustrating.
  • @NewMommyCoop Thanks for sharing your experience. You are right regarding that its easier it you dont see the baby in case something happens afterwards. I think I will wait if it eventually happens (not that I have much option since the Dr. will no see me earlier). Hoping for good news from all the ladies from this group.

    @flipflopped I admire you. I am a planner, so I don't think I could wait just for buying clothes and the nursery. I agree that the surprise is nicer at birth. Did you have any feelings or predictions of the gender? If so, were you right? 
    Me 29, DH 32
    Married: 03/2014
    BFP: 08/20/16, Blighted ovum 9/26/16 (8 weeks 4 days), D&C 9/28/16 (8 weeks 6 days)
    BFP: 12/16/16  => DD born 08/27/2017
  • starfish827starfish827 member
    edited October 2016
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    Me 29, DH 32
    Married: 03/2014
    BFP: 08/20/16, Blighted ovum 9/26/16 (8 weeks 4 days), D&C 9/28/16 (8 weeks 6 days)
    BFP: 12/16/16  => DD born 08/27/2017
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