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November 2011 Moms
UO Thursday
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Re: UO Thursday
My sister didn't STTN until she was 6...not exaggerating! She has ADHD, she would wake in the middle of the night because sleeping was boring pretty much. My mom set up a little play area, with quiet toys and books, in our closet so that she would have something to do rather than waking me, or my parents, up.
BFP #2 March 2011, Baby Girl born November 2011!!!
I'm sorry but your badge doesn't make me look at your comments and go "oh she knows what she's talking about." No, it's what you actually contribute to the conversation. In fact, most of the time I ignore the badges because they look like trash. I'm a working mom who pumps and breastfeeds, but I don't need to go flashing it to the internet.
And to answer your question about Weight Watchers, if you simply would have just introduced yourself to the group and said, I'm trying to lose this much weight doing this and this and oh by the way I breastfeed too, I'm sure the group would have still told you that you need to be careful because of supply issues.
I went through that phase too, but i don't have adhd.
I agree, it is awfully written. What gets me about it is that it tries to say that women should feel bad about enjoying sex. She never mastrubated and was a virgin, so that is why he wanted her (the whole pure BS) and then whenever she had fun with him she felt terribly conflicted, thereby enforcing that 'good girls' shouldn't enjoy being naughty. Gets me riled up every time I think about it :-)
My UO: I cannot stand parents who would rather be their child's friend than parent (and have the child dislike them occasionally). Your job is to 1) love your child unconditionally and 2) prepare your child to function as a productive member of society and not someone with an enabled victim mentality.
- Ava - 11-29-11
- Violet - 10-9-13
I was more talking like sleepless nights when kids are out with their friends, and things like that.
Ahhh....see if you don't put all the details in your first post people have a hard time understanding what you are talking about
(I'm just messing with you!)
I kind of agree with your original point, although "selfish" is a strong word. Not sttn comes with the territory of being a parent and I accept that responsibility. I think its easier to expect to not sttn and be pleasantly surprised when you do. Does it mean I'm never going to complain about lack of sleep? No way
My UO: Coming to work sick does not make you a hero, it makes you a jerk who is spreading illness
I spent a good amount of $$ on my stroller and LOVE it. I live in the city, so I use it every single day. I have DS in it when we walk from our flat to wherever my car is parked before/after daycare and if we run errands. I wanted a stroller that would be easy to manage in tight city stores and crowded sidewalks. I couldn't get that in a travel system. And I'll probably be buying a jogging stroller when DS is older - but I'll most likely get it on Craigs List.
I also have a Kate Spade diaper bag. Totally frivolous and unnecessary, but I love it. I think most diaper bags are hideous. If I am carrying it daily instead of a purse, I want it to look nice and stylish. I also had a $100 Visa giftcard and a 30% off Kate Spade coupon, so that helped justify the purchase. But I am infinitely happier with this bag than the cheap one I initially ordered and sent back.
I hate siggys. I also hate kid leashes.
I also think that all US gradeschool students should learn *wait for it* Spanish in the classroom.
So people should only talk about things that cannot be disagreed on like the weather? If it bugs you then don't read the updates or hide them.
So people should only talk about things that cannot be disagreed on like the weather? If it bugs you then don't read the updates or hide them.
On the Walker subject my FI apparently LOVED his walker and walked at 9m old so much for delaying walking. Oh and he would also fall down the step in it at least once a day and is perfectly fine.
On the badge subject I really don't care I barely even notice them and when I do I don't think anything of them. I think people that have a problem with have their own insecurities about their choices in life and need to get over it. And I agree they can be helpful. If I see someone has an EBF badge than I know nothing I say is going to be very helpful since I FF. And if you want to get all nitpicky about the working/SAHM rocks thing not all the other badges are 'straight forward' the 'I went natural!' badge has an exclamation mark at the end making it seem far superior to the 'c-section mama' badge and I've seen people who've had c-sections be bothered by that as well. Everyone should just get over it.
On the subject of learning English..I don't think anyone is bothered by people who are trying to learn it. Personally, it only annoys me if people refuse to learn English.
My UO: I LOVE LOVE LOVE my Travel system stroller and don't get why they get such a bad rep. and never understand why someone would chose an umbrella stroller which provides no comfort for your child, no where to put anything, and are the biggest PITA ever over their Travel system. I remember when we started using the umbrella stroller with my nephew and it was the MOST annoying thing ever and infinitely more annoying then carrying the 'bulky' travel system stroller.
I have no badges. I've decided they are all pretty lame. And I have no opinion on when other people start solids. I just don't think you should make false claims
~Working Mom~Breastfeeding Mom~Cloth Diapering Mom~BLW Mom~
Blog - No Longer on the DL ~ The Man Cave
Shawn and Larissa
LO #1 - Took 2 years and 2 IVFs ~ DX - severe MFI mild PCOS homozygous MTHFR (a1298c)
LO #2 - TTC 7 months, surprise spontaneous BFP!
I agree!
I think a variety of languages should be embraced! Spanish especially since a large percentage of Americans speak Spanish as their primary language.
The whole point of America is that we are diverse. Its so ironic that people who barely know how to speak proper English (and I'm not specifically referring to any posters from yesterday - more just a generic statement that often Americans don't speak proper English) are judgmental about others not speaking English in America. Americans also travel to other countries and expect people there to speak English!!
I don't mean that at all. I mean the "reshare if you love god, in 120 seconds he will do you a favor!" crap.
~Working Mom~Breastfeeding Mom~Cloth Diapering Mom~BLW Mom~
Blog - No Longer on the DL ~ The Man Cave
Shawn and Larissa
LO #1 - Took 2 years and 2 IVFs ~ DX - severe MFI mild PCOS homozygous MTHFR (a1298c)
LO #2 - TTC 7 months, surprise spontaneous BFP!
I'm not sure where the terms EBF, EFF, etc originated from. The way I always interpreted them was in contrast to each other (i.e. EBF means no formula, EFF means no breastmilk) not in contrast to solid food. Every child is introduced to solid food at some point. If I am able to successfully breastfeed LO until he is completely weaned to solid food I would state that he was exclusively breastfed because he was never given formula. I also consider him to be exclusively breastfed even though I pump for work and he has bottles at daycare.
I have also never been inclined to put an EBF badge on my siggy - that's just my personal preference. I am not offended by them either.
I personally don't like the badges, I think they seem a bit self-promoting. I "EBF" and I "went natural" but don't feel the need to say that with every post.
That being said, if you are going to put up a badge that you EBF... it is true that "Exclusively BFing" by definition means that your child doesn't receive anything but breast milk.
I definitely don't feel as if I'm being 'flashy' with my badges. For me it's just a way to identify myself and to identify others. I don't have them on there to brag but I do think it's helpful to see them when you are replying to posts and they help me to understand where the person is coming from.
And to completely confuse everyone, I think a kate spade diaper bag is a fine purchase. I hate our cheap graco bag and would love a nice one.
I hate all "if you don't reshare" type posts on facebook! They are super annoying attempts to play guilt trips on people to promote something. Just because I don't spam all of my friends with a post doesn't mean I don't support the cause
Umm... your FI used to fall down the stairs EVERY DAY as a baby?
I came out in favor of the walkers but I live in a one story home and if I didn't you could be sure I would be securing all stairwell entries!
That's not safe and I wouldn't go around telling people about that because they are going to give you the "WTF" look. Why would anyone put their child in a walker and then purposely let them fall down the stairs in it? Clearly your FI's parents weren't watching out for him.
I agree. I just saw a woman with 2 kids and one had one a backpack leash thing. The other was in a stroller and too young to walk. I can see why she'd want the leash - so she knows her older child is not running out into the street when she is bending down dealing with the infant.
This reminds me. I saw an episode of Portlandia the other day where this couple was freaking out about someone leaving their leashed dog tied to something, then you look around the corner and their leashed child is tied to something. Poor kids.
There is a difference between speaking 'proper English' and knowing enough to communicate on a basic level. I know enough Spanish to communicate with someone on a basic level. And traveling to another country is very different than moving there. If I were to move to a foreign country I would learn the language first (at least a basic understand and then continue learning after I was there.)
And I agree a foreign language should be taught in America starting in pre-school. I think it is silly that we are one of the few countries that does not teach a foreign language at a young age which is the best time to learn it. And there are schools that are starting to do so and teach half the day in English and half in Spanish. I don't think it should necessarily be Spanish though there should be a variety of languages taught.
If you read I said STEP not STAIRS as in one step not a flight of stairs
Now normally I probably would let this go but today is not one of those days. Case in point, I went back and did my research and I am going to word for word quote you three times during the "Food for Practice" post below:
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Milk in the first year = extremely important
The end."
Now you tell me if those statements=no opinion on when people should start solids. I think not!
I rarely give a crap what the weather's like outside and I don't get why it's the #1 topic of conversation in this country. My boss starts off every freaking conference call with a discussion on the weather. I wish I could have all those minutes of my life back.
Also, Fifty Shades of Grey is the most poorly written book I've ever read. I couldn't get past the writing to decide if I thought it was a turn-on or not.
I loved yesterday's debate and wish we'd have more discussions like that. This board is so slow otherwise.
STEP not STAIRS people really need to learn to read. And my point was that kids are going to fall and they are going to bumps and bruises and they are going to BE OKAY!
My little sister used to fall walking in our backyard to my grandma's house every time she went out there and scrape her nose and has a scar from it should she have not been able to walk in the backyard? How would she have learned?
Huh? I edited out your C&P, but what Smilelari said in that post was not her opinion, it's the guidelines per the AAP. All she said is that milk should be the main source of nutrition in the first year. Nothing about when to start solids.
EBF stands for "exclusively breastfed". If you're feeding solids, you're not exclusively breastfeeding. End of story.
Sorry, ignore that because my comments came out terribly!
What I meant to say was that normally I would probably let your comment go, but today is not one of those days. Case in point, I went back and did my research and I am going to quote you word for word from the "Food and Practice" post below:
1) "They don't need any additional calories during the first year and the amount of milk consumed should not decrease during the first year. Its not for nutrition. It doesn't matter if they eat solids or not."
2) "But they still need milk more than they need the meats and veggies and the yogurt."
3) "Basically: solids in the first year= not necessary. Milk in the first year= extremely important. The end."
Now you tell me if those statements= no opinion on when people should start feeding their babies solids. I think not!
You are seriously comparing tripping outside and scraping your knee to a baby falling down the stairs in a walker?
Yes there is a difference between proper English and basic skills. But my point is that it is hypocritical for someone to judge another person's English skills when they do not even have proper English skills. Who decides where to draw the line? I'm not claiming my own English skills are perfect, but I certainly wouldn't go around criticizing others who don't speak English. Who am I or anyone else to be any kind of judge on the matter? English is not our national language. A significant number of people in the US do speak English. A significant number of people in the US speak Spanish.
And since you brought it up, I'm confused:
This is what you said yesterday, but today you are saying you know enough Spanish to communicate with someone on a basic level. I would think that would be enough Spanish to get a job at Burger King.
You're dumb for thinking that if you let your baby fall down ONE STEP everyday that it's okay, they just need to learn. Well one day that ONE STEP could lead to their head being split open or a broken leg or arm. What parent intentionally is going to say "it's okay Johnny break your arm, because you need to learn how to walk properly." DUMB PARENTS!
Agreed! And don't send your kids to school sick. It will spread like wildfire!
I'll rephrase. I do have an opinion on solids, as I have an opinion on most things. I will share my opinion when asked (as in that case, which was a regurgitation from other sources). My opinion on the EBF badge has no relation to my opinion on the timing on the introduction of solids. Whether you introduce at 4 months or 9, if you are feeding solids your kid isn't EBF. It's pretty black and white.
~Working Mom~Breastfeeding Mom~Cloth Diapering Mom~BLW Mom~
Blog - No Longer on the DL ~ The Man Cave
Shawn and Larissa
LO #1 - Took 2 years and 2 IVFs ~ DX - severe MFI mild PCOS homozygous MTHFR (a1298c)
LO #2 - TTC 7 months, surprise spontaneous BFP!
Well maybe she should have stated in her post that she was quoting and providing guidelines based on the AAP, instead of spewing out what seemed like her OWN opinion on feeding solids. Also, she did say "I worry for that child" in response to CaddyShacks statement on how her niece is being fed. That my friend is an opinion. Or oh wait did the AAP say that too?
And I'm not dumb, I know what EBF means. And to your point, there really shouldn't be a badge saying EBF baby because EVERY person gets fed a solid some point in their life, so if we get down to the nitty gritty, nobody is an EBF baby. I haven't seen a story where a 50 year old man is only being fed breastmilk still.
I was thinking the exact same things when I was reading the post. She never said WHEN a parent SHOULD start or not start solids. Just reiterated what teh AAp says.
BFP #2 March 2011, Baby Girl born November 2011!!!
SO true! Americans are arrogant.