btcruiserlove said: Says the great and powerful leader. I didn't come in here to make stranger friends. It isn't horrible to say to someone who is knowingly causing harm to their unborn fetus, that if they were to miscarry, that could be a cause. It is a medical known fact, not an unpopular opinion. Flame away...I'll enjoy every minute of the entertainment.
I believe the original person in question said she didn't know she was pregnant until 8 wks or so along. It is perfectly acceptable and approved by doctors to take a week or two to cut back and then quit smoking. Less shock to your body.
And yeah, I was a smoker when my surprise pregnancy was discovered. I called my OB and they recommended taking a couple weeks to quit. Please, quit flapping your trap, it's entertaining for a min, but overwhelmingly annoying.
Also, the little self righteous comment about "knowing why she miscarried".... Yeah, you're a fucking bitch for that one and should leave. Immediately.
My life, my love, my boys
DS: Liam born 8.30.10 at 35 wks (PPROM, Pre-E, C-Section)
DD: BFP 6.9.13, EDD 2.12.14, A/S 9.20.13... It's a Girl!
Adeline Leigh born sleeping 2.11.14 at 39 wks 6 days
How very softly you tiptoed into our world, almost silently, only a moment you stayed. But what an imprint your footsteps have left upon our hearts. - Dorothy Ferguson
For the record I am not in a cult! I'm actually not a part of any largely organized religion. We are just part of a small circle of likeminded individuals whom support and seek support from one another. We share the same beliefs and ideals and consider each other our spiritual family circle. We believe in a Higher Power as a force which guides us. Our lives are predetermined and we no not intend to intervene. Also computers are allowed being that they have nothing directly to do with my body and keeping it as pure and close to its original state as possible.
Yes, guides you...As in, gives you the tools you need....As in, C-sections and doctors incase of a medical emergency. God doesn't stick his hand down from the sky to save your ass.
For the record I am not in a cult! I'm actually not a part of any largely organized religion. We are just part of a small circle of likeminded individuals whom support and seek support from one another. We share the same beliefs and ideals and consider each other our spiritual family circle. We believe in a Higher Power as a force which guides us. Our lives are predetermined and we no not intend to intervene. Also computers are allowed being that they have nothing directly to do with my body and keeping it as pure and close to its original state as possible.
See, having thought about free will and predestination and Things, I actually would say people have no meaningful free will (partly based on my understanding of the nature of time), but. "We do not intend to intervene?" What the hell.
Even believing we don't have free will, I nonetheless maintain that the ignorance of what we're going to do next is a vital part of our lives. We have to act as if we have free will, otherwise we sit at home saying "oh, it's predestined. If it's not supposed to be like this something would happen and it would be different." No. You have to get off your ass and do the work of making things happen. What do you exist for if not to live? You have to intervene in your own life or what the hell are you doing. ?!
OP, you've gone from making me mad because of the pain you're causing all the C/S mamas and the weird your throwing all over religious belief and things like that, to making me mad because on top of everything, your whole world view is just so lazy and poorly thought out. (and strange, but I don't want to get personal. There's been more than enough of that already.)
I think birth plans are awesome, I have had my entire plan written out since we first started ttc.
I don't agree with csections being considered births or deliveries, to me it's an insult to mothers that actually did birth their children. Csections are surgical extractions and should be referred to as such.
I'm dreading telling work I'm pregnant because I don't want people asking how I'm feeling everyday.
I know you've been torn apart for this already but I don't have time to read through the next 10 pages of this post. I do have time to say that you are a COMPLETE MORON. I've never seen a more ridiculous comment on TB and I've been around since 2011.
I gave birth naturally (with no interventions) and am a huge advocate for natural birth still, to say that someone a woman who has a c section devalues a woman who has given birth vaginally does not make any sense. I guess I wasn't birthed into the world because my mother, who almost died trying to have a vaginal birth, had to have a c section to save her life. Congratulations! You just won the Biggest Fucking Idiot award.
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DS #1 born 05/25/2012 BFP#2: 06/12/2013 ---- loss DS #2 born 4/08/2014 BPF#4: 2/1/2016 --- 2/23/2016 suspected molar pregnancy--- 3/15/2016 D&E - diagnosis MM BFP#5 - 9/22/2016 * formally bornmommy
Tomorrow will be a new day, I'm no longer standing to be insulted in this post. Have a good night hopefully we can start fresh.
Don't come back. You've disgusted enough people.
^truth. @redrosepinkdaisy You will probably have luck on baby gaga....
Also after you give birth PLEASE come back and tell us you birth story. I'd love to know how you were glad to take that epi to the spine! Because the ones like you high and mighty always carve for the drugs.
*BFP m/c*BFP b/g twins *S/B 20w *BFP DS A 1-12-12 *BFP m/c *BFP m/c*BFP *It's a boy again* EDD 2-5-14
We all have our beliefs and for our family it does not include medical intervention or surgical procedures. I feel it's rude that members here have lashed out without knowing me, my background or any of my reasoning.
Wait. So what happens if your kid doesn't come out of your vagina? Are you prepared to kill yourself and your child?
In that situation we would place our lives in the hands of Our Highest Power. In a life or death situation man simply can not alter the intended fate, that can only be done thru divine intervention. If death was our intended fate it would occur irregardless of a csection.
Anyway this is an opinion post, several others have stated theirs so why don't all the critics go pick those apart too.
Wait until she is laying there shaking from shock and bleeding to death, and everyone is telling her she will never get to meet her baby and see how quickly she changes her mind.
My random left-field unpopular opinion, super-duper unpopular with me at least, is that I'm not going to make it to the employee appreciation ice cream social. Dammit. I've been daydreaming about that @#$* ice cream too.
Oh no, no @liz4444 Missyisnothavinganymorebabies. I was just summoned here. I was JUST thinking of you, too. How the hell are you and your girls? #hijacksthisplace
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Dear God, I had to take a Zofran after reading this thread.
Just click on the little person icon in the top right corner, click on preferences, there are options under your avatar to change siggy, then you can just c&p a ticker or siggy right in there.
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I wanted to be done with this but I see you sll won't let it go. For everyone saying I will be begging for drugs that will not happen.I will not give birth in an environment where drugs are available. For me that type environment would not be conducive to freeing my mind for birth.
I wanted to be done with this but I see you sll won't let it go. For everyone saying I will be begging for drugs that will not happen.I will not give birth in an environment where drugs are available. For me that type environment would not be conducive to freeing my mind for birth.
I wanted to be done with this but I see you sll won't let it go. For everyone saying I will be begging for drugs that will not happen.I will not give birth in an environment where drugs are available. For me that type environment would not be conducive to freeing my mind for birth.
I wanted to be done with this but I see you sll won't let it go. For everyone saying I will be begging for drugs that will not happen.I will not give birth in an environment where drugs are available. For me that type environment would not be conducive to freeing my mind for birth.
I wanted to be done with this but I see you sll won't let it go. For everyone saying I will be begging for drugs that will not happen.I will not give birth in an environment where drugs are available. For me that type environment would not be conducive to freeing my mind for birth.
Honey that's not the reason they won't let it go. I doubt anyone cares how much pain you will be in.
I give up on trying to make a ticker.... this new bump format is for the birds...
I wanted to be done with this but I see you sll won't let it go. For everyone saying I will be begging for drugs that will not happen.I will not give birth in an environment where drugs are available. For me that type environment would not be conducive to freeing my mind for birth.
Free your mind, and the rest will follow.
Parenting Floozie Brigades official motto: We welcome to you the board with open legs. Also, open beers. ~@cinemagoddess
I wanted to be done with this but I see you sll won't let it go. For everyone saying I will be begging for drugs that will not happen.I will not give birth in an environment where drugs are available. For me that type environment would not be conducive to freeing my mind for birth.
Man lady I am sorry, but life sure did f you up, but I guess you were predestined to be a dumbass right?
I pray to God your baby makes it out safely as you give birth in a field alone or with your cult. Whatever. I hope your child is born with a brain so that one day it can plan an escape and leave your crazy circle.
I unlike you know what it is like to give birth, and I unlike you know what it is like to have a child die. Medical intervention is a blessing. I hope and pray one day your eyes will open and you get out.
Are you planned for the actual what if's? DO you know what love feels like?
I can tell you it might sound cliche, but the saying you don't know love till you become a mother, well that shit is true. As much as you think you love your baby the moment you lay eyes on them you will know true love.
How can you honestly live with yourself if you knowingly hurt your LO? Life is not long and people think it is. Things happen.
I have 2 of my children's ashes on my mantle, I have never known a pain grater than the day I picked their ashes up from the funeral home.
That pain was worse that me losing them, holding their lifeless bodies. That pain is still so real 3 years later.
Honestly think about the what if's? It's one thing to know your child is going to die and there is nothing to do about it, it is an all know low to know your kid is dying and you can help it and you sit there and wait doing nothing.
Tell me what if your child was drowning, in a lake, do you sit on the bank and yell to your child "Our higher power can save you, if they do great! If they don't I am sorry there is nothing mama will do"
Do you want your child growing up knowing their mother does not love them enough to protect them?
At first I was pissed at you, but now I am so hurt knowing that your children are going to grow up with a mother that loves her cult more than them.
I am sorry you are like you are. I hope your higher power does protect your child, because you sure as hell will not.
I hope you feel shame, you deserve it.
*BFP m/c*BFP b/g twins *S/B 20w *BFP DS A 1-12-12 *BFP m/c *BFP m/c*BFP *It's a boy again* EDD 2-5-14
I wanted to be done with this but I see you sll won't let it go. For everyone saying I will be begging for drugs that will not happen.I will not give birth in an environment where drugs are available. For me that type environment would not be conducive to freeing my mind for birth.
One of two things is going on here... 1) You are for real and you are BSC. 2) You are MUD, which is even more BSC and sick.
Either way, same outcome.
TTC #1 since February 2011 Me: 29 (3/5/13- high NK cells) DH: 28 (5/8/12- MFI low morph and motility) Cycle #21 (IUI#1), Cycle #22 (HSG 9/21/12) and Cycle #23 (IUI#2)= Cycle #24- December Snow Bunny IVF #1 ER 12/6/12 (14R, 11M, 9F), ET 12/9/12 transferred 2 day 3 embies Bleeding and low betas=very cautious C/P 5W3D Cycle #26 March Lucky Duck- FET #1 scheduled 3/20/13- CANCELLED- lining issues Cycle #27 May Emerald- FET #1.2 delayed- Starting Trental for 3 months + natural cycles Cycle #28-30= Cycle #31 August Shooting Star- FET #1.3 transferred 1 hatching blast 8/21/13= Betas 8/30 (108) and 9/3 (565)
U/S 9/19/13- HR is 128! U/S #2 10/4/13- HR is 174! It's a BOY!
There's this quote I saw on Facebook once, it said something like 'It's funny how those who believe that life is predetermined and they can't do anything to change it still look both ways before crossing the road'
@missyishere and @sandyclam, the spawn are driving me BSC! Li turned 2 yesterday! Crystal, where the hell have you been and why do I still have a stick figure humping a pool noodle in my siggy?
@missyishere and @sandyclam, the spawn are driving me BSC! Li turned 2 yesterday! Crystal, where the hell have you been and why do I still have a stick figure humping a pool noodle in my siggy?
@liz4444 Happy birthday yesterday, Li! Nora's birthday is today! You need to make your way back to Parenting again.
Parenting Floozie Brigades official motto: We welcome to you the board with open legs. Also, open beers. ~@cinemagoddess
@missyishere and @sandyclam, the spawn are driving me BSC! Li turned 2 yesterday! Crystal, where the hell have you been and why do I still have a stick figure humping a pool noodle in my siggy?
@liz4444 Happy birthday yesterday, Li! Nora's birthday is today! You need to make your way back to Parenting again.
Happy birthday Nora! I will, life has been crazy and I haven't been on much.
For the record I am not in a cult! I'm actually not a part of any largely organized religion. We are just part of a small circle of likeminded individuals whom support and seek support from one another. We share the same beliefs and ideals and consider each other our spiritual family circle. We believe in a Higher Power as a force which guides us. Our lives are predetermined and we no not intend to intervene. Also computers are allowed being that they have nothing directly to do with my body and keeping it as pure and close to its original state as possible.
@missyishere and @sandyclam, the spawn are driving me BSC! Li turned 2 yesterday! Crystal, where the hell have you been and why do I still have a stick figure humping a pool noodle in my siggy?
@liz4444 Happy birthday yesterday, Li! Nora's birthday is today! You need to make your way back to Parenting again.
Happy birthday Nora! I will, life has been crazy and I haven't been on much.
I forgot all of your login stuff, @Liz4444. Shoot me an email with the kids' birthdays and I'll fix it for you.
In about a year, you non-cult ladies will look back and remember coloredflowers and her shenanigans. It will be a grand moment. Make sure to tag me when you reminisce, k?
Parenting Floozie Brigades official motto: We welcome to you the board with open legs. Also, open beers. ~@cinemagoddess
As I sit here with a cigarette in one hand. A big wad of chew in my mouth, while eating a soft serve ice cream sundae loaded with chopped up hot dogs and sushi .... I have Enjoyed the fact that I don't have crazy c-section lady's scorn since my beautiful perfectly healthy daughter's birth 21 years ago was all perfectly natural but I'll admit not smoke free... This Time I assure you I have quit smoking and plan on drugs .... Lots and lots of numbing drugs!!... The memory of the pain fades but I do remember there was a lot of it !!!! And trust me I know God will be a OK with me having an epidural. Thank you all for a very entertaining evening ... Some people are just unbelievable..
My UO - while lame compared to today's circus....I really cannot stand how the NFL players wear pink accessories in October. I understand that it's breast cancer awareness month and I appreciate their concern for our tittys...but a pink towel and pink socks and pink penalty flags are just obnoxious.
@MrsJWoodJr I was just joining in and posting an unpopular opinion. Figured I could feed the flame a little more since this one had a bunch of topics that got crazy!
Re: UO
It’s not that I don’t like you, it’s that I don’t know you. Stranger Danger.
My life, my love, my boys


DS: Liam born 8.30.10 at 35 wks (PPROM, Pre-E, C-Section)
DD: BFP 6.9.13, EDD 2.12.14, A/S 9.20.13... It's a Girl!
Adeline Leigh born sleeping 2.11.14 at 39 wks 6 days
How very softly you tiptoed into our world, almost silently, only a moment you stayed. But what an imprint your footsteps have left upon our hearts. - Dorothy Ferguson
Yes, guides you...As in, gives you the tools you need....As in, C-sections and doctors incase of a medical emergency. God doesn't stick his hand down from the sky to save your ass.
I'd suggest baby center or some other site. You won't be warmly welcomed anywhere on tb after this fiasco.
Even believing we don't have free will, I nonetheless maintain that the ignorance of what we're going to do next is a vital part of our lives. We have to act as if we have free will, otherwise we sit at home saying "oh, it's predestined. If it's not supposed to be like this something would happen and it would be different." No. You have to get off your ass and do the work of making things happen. What do you exist for if not to live? You have to intervene in your own life or what the hell are you doing. ?!
OP, you've gone from making me mad because of the pain you're causing all the C/S mamas and the weird your throwing all over religious belief and things like that, to making me mad because on top of everything, your whole world view is just so lazy and poorly thought out. (and strange, but I don't want to get personal. There's been more than enough of that already.)
I gave birth naturally (with no interventions) and am a huge advocate for natural birth still, to say that someone a woman who has a c section devalues a woman who has given birth vaginally does not make any sense. I guess I wasn't birthed into the world because my mother, who almost died trying to have a vaginal birth, had to have a c section to save her life. Congratulations! You just won the Biggest Fucking Idiot award.
DS #1 born 05/25/2012
BFP#2: 06/12/2013 ---- loss
DS #2 born 4/08/2014
BPF#4: 2/1/2016 --- 2/23/2016 suspected molar pregnancy--- 3/15/2016 D&E - diagnosis MM
BFP#5 - 9/22/2016
* formally bornmommy
@redrosepinkdaisy
You will probably have luck on baby gaga....
Also after you give birth PLEASE come back and tell us you birth story. I'd love to know how you were glad to take that epi to the spine!
Because the ones like you high and mighty always carve for the drugs.
Anyway this is an opinion post, several others have stated theirs so why don't all the critics go pick those apart too.
Wait until she is laying there shaking from shock and bleeding to death, and everyone is telling her she will never get to meet her baby and see how quickly she changes her mind.
I think she meant "still"
I pray to God your baby makes it out safely as you give birth in a field alone or with your cult. Whatever. I hope your child is born with a brain so that one day it can plan an escape and leave your crazy circle.
I unlike you know what it is like to give birth, and I unlike you know what it is like to have a child die. Medical intervention is a blessing. I hope and pray one day your eyes will open and you get out.
Are you planned for the actual what if's? DO you know what love feels like?
I can tell you it might sound cliche, but the saying you don't know love till you become a mother, well that shit is true. As much as you think you love your baby the moment you lay eyes on them you will know true love.
How can you honestly live with yourself if you knowingly hurt your LO? Life is not long and people think it is. Things happen.
I have 2 of my children's ashes on my mantle, I have never known a pain grater than the day I picked their ashes up from the funeral home.
That pain was worse that me losing them, holding their lifeless bodies. That pain is still so real 3 years later.
Honestly think about the what if's? It's one thing to know your child is going to die and there is nothing to do about it, it is an all know low to know your kid is dying and you can help it and you sit there and wait doing nothing.
Tell me what if your child was drowning, in a lake, do you sit on the bank and yell to your child "Our higher power can save you, if they do great! If they don't I am sorry there is nothing mama will do"
Do you want your child growing up knowing their mother does not love them enough to protect them?
At first I was pissed at you, but now I am so hurt knowing that your children are going to grow up with a mother that loves her cult more than them.
I am sorry you are like you are. I hope your higher power does protect your child, because you sure as hell will not.
I hope you feel shame, you deserve it.
1) You are for real and you are BSC.
2) You are MUD, which is even more BSC and sick.
Either way, same outcome.
TTC #1 since February 2011
C/P 5W3D
Betas 8/30 (108) and 9/3 (565)
Me: 29 (3/5/13- high NK cells) DH: 28 (5/8/12- MFI low morph and motility)
Cycle #21 (IUI#1), Cycle #22 (HSG 9/21/12) and Cycle #23 (IUI#2)=
Cycle #24- December Snow Bunny IVF #1
ER 12/6/12 (14R, 11M, 9F), ET 12/9/12 transferred 2 day 3 embies
Bleeding and low betas=very cautious
Cycle #26 March Lucky Duck- FET #1
scheduled 3/20/13- CANCELLED- lining issues
Cycle #27 May Emerald- FET #1.2
delayed- Starting Trental for 3 months + natural cycles Cycle #28-30=
Cycle #31 August Shooting Star- FET #1.3
transferred 1 hatching blast 8/21/13=
U/S 9/19/13- HR is 128! U/S #2 10/4/13- HR is 174!
It's a BOY!
Thanks for making my day off less boring.
Happy birthday Nora! I will, life has been crazy and I haven't been on much.
Hahahahahaha