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nancyvi

Wow! Took me a while but I needed to read this whole thing. Greetings from Jan14! You ladies (mind the obvious exceptions) are awesome! Best/weirdest UO ever!!

vcusano

speer06 said:

redrosepinkdaisy said:

OnederfulMother said:

redrosepinkdaisy said:

We all have our beliefs and for our family it does not include medical intervention or surgical procedures. I feel it's rude that members here have lashed out without knowing me, my background or any of my reasoning.

Wait. So what happens if your kid doesn't come out of your vagina? Are you prepared to kill yourself and your child?

In that situation we would place our lives in the hands of Our Highest Power. In a life or death situation man simply can not alter the intended fate, that can only be done thru divine intervention. If death was our intended fate it would occur irregardless of a csection.

Anyway this is an opinion post, several others have stated theirs so why don't all the critics go pick those apart too.

So all of those non-mothers should have just watched the monitors as their children died inside of them rather than having a c-section? Got it.

Right. And according to this moron my three siblings and I should have been stillborn along with my DS. I guess God was ok with that intervention on those particular days and allowed us to live? I don't know, I don't speak stupid.

CookingStar

Oh the hormones.....

reddroses

I should probably consider changing my screen name...

janice9821

Sully was here from TTGP. And I just read 22 PAGES of hot mess. I want a cookie damnit!

vcusano

reddroses said:

I should probably consider changing my screen name...

This made me LMAO!!!!

singing_lyn

Wow. I made it. I feel like I should get a bumper sticker or something that says I made it through the craziness. And I don't have anything to add. I think that it's all been said by others before me that were far more eloquent in their language towards the nut job that has... ?, stolen some more faith in humanity, that's the phrase I was looking for.

I've been terrified of having a child due to circumstances in my own past, extended family's past, etc, and the fear of it happening to them, and the amount of damage it can do to a person, mentally, physically, etc. And to read all of this and know that someone that I imagine has had many of the same fears, thoughts, etc, on becoming a parent, can so callously discuss letting her own child die, scares me so greatly for my future child(ren), that they would also be that callous towards another human being. This makes me sick to my soul.

missyishere

stinamarie412 said:

I have two unpopular opinions. 1. I hate all of the abbreviations that are used. I think they are confusing and definitely prefer to write out a word. I have to google abbreviations just to know what people are talking about. 2. I think that all of the negativity on this forum is disgusting. The whole point of unpopular opinions is that they are just that, unpopular and opinions. I think that lack of kindness and respect for other peoples opinions (whether a person agrees with them or not) is just disappointing. I joined to be uplifted and supported by other women in similar situations to myself.

I am reading the future:

It looks like you won't be around for long.  Have fun while it lasts!

ShannonSky

Granted I skipped through pages 6-21, but am I the only one who thinks the csection poster is MUD?

Tifers777

Wow. That's all I have to say about this thread.. I guess that's why I don't get on this thread! Hormones.. And drama! Stop stressing yourself out ladies with others BS and stupidity!

FutureMrsMJ12

stinamarie412 said:

I have two unpopular opinions.

1. I hate all of the abbreviations that are used. I think they are confusing and definitely prefer to write out a word. I have to google abbreviations just to know what people are talking about.

2. I think that all of the negativity on this forum is disgusting. The whole point of unpopular opinions is that they are just that, unpopular and opinions. I think that lack of kindness and respect for other peoples opinions (whether a person agrees with them or not) is just disappointing. I joined to be uplifted and supported by other women in similar situations to myself.

I agree with your second point, and I had posted something similar before that people had snarky comments to, like "oh you must be new" or "enjoy the ride." But eh, whatever, to each her own.

It is an unpopular opinion board and many people are going to comment if they disagree. That's perfectly fine to me, but I think that some comments got out of hand and disrespectful. Like telling the woman who quit smoking if she had a miscarriage before we now know why, or some of the stuff said to other people that I can't seem to remember at this point. There's a difference in counteracting opinions and being judgey (is that even a real word?) and rude.

Also, in the future I think some of those comments could be avoided if some people don't post things that are BSC or MUD! (I also had to look those up and am trying to get this slang down!)

FutureMrsMJ12

Jules51814 said:

Pep143 said:

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stinamarie412 said:

I have two unpopular opinions. 1. I hate all of the abbreviations that are used. I think they are confusing and definitely prefer to write out a word. I have to google abbreviations just to know what people are talking about. 2. I think that all of the negativity on this forum is disgusting. The whole point of unpopular opinions is that they are just that, unpopular and opinions. I think that lack of kindness and respect for other peoples opinions (whether a person agrees with them or not) is just disappointing. I joined to be uplifted and supported by other women in similar situations to myself.

Welcome to any internet webforum, deal with it or GTFO. 

Seriously? Is everyone having hormone rage?

yeah i'm kinda with you there. people coming here from other boards just to call this person a cunt or wish horrible medical complications on her seems excessive. she said something really ridiculous and awful. she's obviously been completely brainwashed by somebody. i just hope her child survives long enough to read a book or two and realize it's parents are nuts. this thread probably doesn't need to carry on another 20 pages.

there's also a whole lot of bullying here towards people who aren't @redrose, all seems kinda juvenile to me.

This...agreed!

pandadair

FutureMrsMJ12 said:

I have two unpopular opinions. 1. I hate all of the abbreviations that are used. I think they are confusing and definitely prefer to write out a word. I have to google abbreviations just to know what people are talking about. 2. I think that all of the negativity on this forum is disgusting. The whole point of unpopular opinions is that they are just that, unpopular and opinions. I think that lack of kindness and respect for other peoples opinions (whether a person agrees with them or not) is just disappointing. I joined to be uplifted and supported by other women in similar situations to myself.

I agree with your second point, and I had posted something similar before that people had snarky comments to, like "oh you must be new" or "enjoy the ride." But eh, whatever, to each her own. It is an unpopular opinion board and many people are going to comment if they disagree. That's perfectly fine to me, but I think that some comments got out of hand and disrespectful. Like telling the woman who quit smoking if she had a miscarriage before we now know why, or some of the stuff said to other people that I can't seem to remember at this point. There's a difference in counteracting opinions and being judgey (is that even a real word?) and rude. Also, in the future I think some of those comments could be avoided if some people don't post things that are BSC or MUD! (I also had to look those up and am trying to get this slang down!)

Yeah and people jumped down her throat for saying that. No one defends stuff like that by saying "Oh, you must be new." You do realize people post MUD for the express purpose of causing these comments, right?

thompson26

redrosepinkdaisy said:
We all have our beliefs and for our family it does not include medical intervention or surgical procedures. I feel it's rude that members here have lashed out without knowing me, my background or any of my reasoning.

And I think it's rude and extemely offensive that you are judging those that have had a csection without knowing them, their backgrounds, or reasoning.

FutureMrsMJ12

pandadair said:

FutureMrsMJ12 said:

stinamarie412 said:

I have two unpopular opinions.

1. I hate all of the abbreviations that are used. I think they are confusing and definitely prefer to write out a word. I have to google abbreviations just to know what people are talking about.

2. I think that all of the negativity on this forum is disgusting. The whole point of unpopular opinions is that they are just that, unpopular and opinions. I think that lack of kindness and respect for other peoples opinions (whether a person agrees with them or not) is just disappointing. I joined to be uplifted and supported by other women in similar situations to myself.

I agree with your second point, and I had posted something similar before that people had snarky comments to, like "oh you must be new" or "enjoy the ride." But eh, whatever, to each her own.

It is an unpopular opinion board and many people are going to comment if they disagree. That's perfectly fine to me, but I think that some comments got out of hand and disrespectful. Like telling the woman who quit smoking if she had a miscarriage before we now know why, or some of the stuff said to other people that I can't seem to remember at this point. There's a difference in counteracting opinions and being judgey (is that even a real word?) and rude.

Also, in the future I think some of those comments could be avoided if some people don't post things that are BSC or MUD! (I also had to look those up and am trying to get this slang down!)

Yeah and people jumped down her throat for saying that. No one defends stuff like that by saying "Oh, you must be new." You do realize people post MUD for the express purpose of causing these comments, right?


I said in my post what she said about smoking/miscarriage was wrong. The comment about "oh you must be new" was said to me when I posted my UO on a completely unrelated topic. And I do realize some stuff is MUD which is also why I don't understand why people get so worked up about it. That's the reason I didn't comment on any of the posts that took up about 95% of this thread.

pandadair

FFS, people. Stop responding to redrosepinkdaisy. At this point there is nothing remotely new or worthy of being added.



And I'm clearly saying this as someone who's actually read the entire thread. Why yes, I have an active and interesting social life on a Friday night, why do you ask?

gypsymystic

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gypsymystic

MommyDay2be said:

I hate when obviously pregnant women smoke in general but even more so when they do it in public! It just seems so attention grabby, like when 12 year olds do it.. And IM a smoker, both times I've been PG I have quit on my own before 9 weeks. It's not that hard. Just don't do it. Or wait till you are home.. Just yuck.

sorry forgot to quote.

I've seen, one more then several occasions obviously pregnant woman drinking at Oktoberfest. Like 8 momths pregnant with a beer in each hand, slugging them back type of obvious. People were staring in disbelief each time.  I was not pregnant at the time but disgusted never the less. Why?? Why do that in a public place?

cg0112358

TheBeeCharmer said:

JmeJme said:

I think birth plans are awesome, I have had my entire plan written out since we first started ttc. I don't agree with csections being considered births or deliveries, to me it's an insult to mothers that actually did birth their children. Csections are surgical extractions and should be referred to as such. I'm dreading telling work I'm pregnant because I don't want people asking how I'm feeling everyday.

Really....really?!?? So, for all of the women who have had medically necessary csections, many after hours and hours of labor, their birth experience shouldn't "count"? FFS, get your head out of your ass. I'm thankful I have birth vaginally the first time and didn't have to endure the recovery that follows a csection, but I in no way find it insulting that other women have given birth that way. I actually find your comment incredibly insulting, demeaning them like that. I just...I can't even. You, though, I'm sure your birth will go EXACTLY according to your birth plan. Because that's how it works.

Yes, I'm calling a karmic c-section on this one. She might end up singing "Happy surgical extraction day to you" at LO's 1st birthday. 

Wow, as someone who suffered PPD as a result of my first c/s and was so traumatized by it it affected my ability to BE my child I am totally disgusted... I attempted a VBAC with my 2nd and after 14 hours of pit induced labour (due to high BP and proteinuria) ended up with another c/s since my DD went into distress. Glad to know after all that that I didn't birth my child. I wrote up my experience after my first and remember writing that I wouldn't wish a c/s on my worst enemy. For the first time I'm reconsidering that...

mommyilene

kiraliz2 said:

redrosepinkdaisy said:

OnederfulMother said:

redrosepinkdaisy said:

We all have our beliefs and for our family it does not include medical intervention or surgical procedures. I feel it's rude that members here have lashed out without knowing me, my background or any of my reasoning.

Wait. So what happens if your kid doesn't come out of your vagina? Are you prepared to kill yourself and your child?

In that situation we would place our lives in the hands of Our Highest Power. In a life or death situation man simply can not alter the intended fate, that can only be done thru divine intervention. If death was our intended fate it would occur irregardless of a csection.

Anyway this is an opinion post, several others have stated theirs so why don't all the critics go pick those apart too.

Oh.



Ok lurking from oct 2013. First off agreed with PP about the whole cs thing. You are ignorant if think cs mommies did not deliver their child. You come across as ignorant yourself.

The whole "higher power" yes I get it but you take out of proportion like so many others and it's annoying!! My pastor told us this story to get his point across in a sermon when I was in the 4th grade and I've never forgotten it..
A man was standing in his roof top because of a flood. A row boat comes his way and tells the guy to jump in. "No no The Lord will save me". A motor boat comes along and tells the guy to jump in. "No no The Lord will save me". A helicopter comes and tries to saves him. "No no The Lord will save me". Then a big wave crashes over the guy and he dies. In heaven the guys says Lord I don't understand I trusted you to save me. The Lord replies I tried to three times!!

You remind me of the guy in this story. You are going to trust "higher power" to save you but turn it down and not realize your "higher power" is trying to save you by providing you with doc that can and will save your life.

lynseyadamson

If she's willing to let her baby possibly die, or contract some hideous disease in the name of religion, she's probably willing to go to prison too. Although I'm not sure what The Highest Power will think of her then...

jedimindtrick

redrosepinkdaisy said:

pannk said:

redrosepinkdaisy said:

provwife said:

@redrosepinkdaisy
You need Jesus.

Religious freedom, don't push your beliefs on other people.

Yet you are pushing your religious beliefs on your own future child by refusing a c/s or any medical intervention, not vaccinating, and who knows what else. And your baby isn't old enough to even have a say. Fabulous.

So Christians that raise their children in that faith are forcing that on their child as well? Give me a freakin break. As parents we make decisions for our children until they are capable of making their own choices.


Exactly! You know, like, I'm gonna make the choice for you not to live, so I don't have to have an unnatural surgery. If you were old enough I'm sure you would make the same decision.
Go away already, MUD

Sincerely,
Not-born "mother" of a not-born.

May '13 was here....again.

sdtchica13

Shantxtell said:

So are we going to ignore the idiotic comments that a c/s delivery is always hell and vaginal is always a breeze? Yes? 

Alrighty then.

My vag wasn't decimated. I didn't have stitches from vag to clit.... Oh wait, yes I did!

Umm, OUCH! That makes me want to cross my legs and never uncross them again! Andplusalso, I don't think anyone here said c sections were always awful and vaginal deliveries were always a breeze, they simply said that PP is a fucking asshat for having the gall to tell those of us who had c sections that we didn't birth our children. Did a kid vacate my uterus in some manner? Yes? Ok, then I birthed a fucking child, end of story.

LaxMOM44

May13 woot woot pump my fist not my gas like a nj mommy

Letayloreo

typeset said:

redrosepinkdaisy said:

We all have our beliefs and for our family it does not include medical intervention or surgical procedures. I feel it's rude that members here have lashed out without knowing me, my background or any of my reasoning.

Ah. One of those people. Okay, then. 

Move along, guys. Show's over. 

... 


LMAO

Letayloreo

The show Alaskan Women Looking For Love actually looks interesting...also, movies like Napoleon Dynamite and Nacho Libre are NOT funny. Date night and I Love You Man are clever and comic genius though!

RissKay

WOW. 

I just made it through that whole thing. I feel as though I should eat cake. 

@RRPD, 

If anyone on this forum isn't a mother, it's you. 

@smokerhatinglady, 

Come off your high horse. Quitting is quitting, period. Kudos to anyone who does it because, from experience, the hardest thing in the world is to quit when you weren't ready. But I did it. 

@happyfortheshutdownlady, 

Ha. Ha. Ha. Ignorant much? 

Peace, bitches.

vivere_ridere_amore

I win. I totally knew the no c section chick was going to be one of those no intervention cult people. Are you even supposed to be using the internet?

emilyrowe24

Banich4eva said:

MintBerryCrunch said:

kiraliz2 said:

redrosepinkdaisy said:

redrosepinkdaisy said:

We all have our beliefs and for our family it does not include medical intervention or surgical procedures. I feel it's rude that members here have lashed out without knowing me, my background or any of my reasoning.

Wait. So what happens if your kid doesn't come out of your vagina? Are you prepared to kill yourself and your child?

In that situation we would place our lives in the hands of Our Highest Power. In a life or death situation man simply can not alter the intended fate, that can only be done thru divine intervention. If death was our intended fate it would occur irregardless of a csection. Anyway this is an opinion post, several others have stated theirs so why don't all the critics go pick those apart too.

Oh.

Oh

my

GOD.

Just no.

There is a reason there are doctors on this planet. They are there TO SAVE YOUR FUCKING LIFE. God forbid you or your child ever need medical help. What if your baby gets sick and needs meds? Are you just going to pray that it goes away/

Holy God.

Yeah aren't there some people on trial for murder for the SECOND TIME because they killed a baby by not seeking/following medical advice...after also killing the first one the same way?

That is exactly what I thought of when I read her post. I'm actually kind of terrified for her future children.

THIS!!! At what point do the authorities or medical personnel step in when they know a parent, or soon to be parent is putting their child's life in danger?  Then just let the child die because their "Higher Power" willed it so by letting them die? FFS do you even have a soul?

J9melissa

Empireceo

I am never starting another UO thread.  I am still getting notification almost a week later, FFS.

redrosepinkdaisy

jennish11 said:

@redrosepinkdaisy - quick question for you.... how do you feel about the preservation of life?  If you had a family member who could not survive without life support, would you pull the plug so they could die naturally or keep them on life support in order to preserve life?

C-Sections are no different than life-support - it is a medical intervention designed to allow the mother to give BIRTH to their child when their body just naturally cannot.

and, you are dead wrong - C-Sections are BIRTH - the definition of birth is "a baby emerging from it's mother's body" - not specifically vaginally.

This convo is over a week old, we disagree, fine, let's be adults and move on! This horse has been beat enough.

bumpuser9353653

Ooh, @redrosepinkdaisy, can I just add that using a computer is actually bad for your body's natural state?  In fact, the second you sit down, your metabolism and circulatory systems slow.  Typing is bad for your wrists, staring at a screen is bad for your neck, shoulders, back, and can alter your body's natural structure; and sitting increases your risk of an early death and heart attack regardless of outside factors. 

So maybe your "small group of like-minded individuals" should re-consider your allowed use of computers.  Just sayin'.

redrosepinkdaisy

RugbyMamma said:

Ooh, @redrosepinkdaisy, can I just add that using a computer is actually bad for your body's natural state?  In fact, the second you sit down, your metabolism and circulatory systems slow.  Typing is bad for your wrists, staring at a screen is bad for your neck, shoulders, back, and can alter your body's natural structure; and sitting increases your risk of an early death and heart attack regardless of outside factors. 

So maybe your "small group of like-minded individuals" should re-consider your allowed use of computers.  Just sayin'.

Whew, got scared for a minute. Good thing I'm mobile.

julesf817

Please people, please! it's already dead!

 

 

emilyrowe24

BBer4 said:

Tomorrow will be a new day, I'm no longer standing to be insulted in this post. Have a good night hopefully we can start fresh.

I seriously doubt that anyone will allow you to start fresh around here. You's crrrrrazy!

Is it just me...or does @redrosepinkdaisy sound awfully similar to jessntim3???

sthomas1222

MommyDay2be said:

I hate when obviously pregnant women smoke in general but even more so when they do it in public! It just seems so attention grabby, like when 12 year olds do it.. And IM a smoker, both times I've been PG I have quit on my own before 9 weeks. It's not that hard. Just don't do it. Or wait till you are home.. Just yuck.

I think any woman who smokes while pregnant is completely selfish & probably shouldn't be having kids. Especially if they were TTC (a family member & friend were in this situation & I wanted to punch them). I was at a 2 pack per day habit when I quit. It sucked but it's doable.

spacepotatoes

Why is this thread STILL going?!