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Covid Thread

doula-mamadoula-mama member
in April 2022 Moms
This is the place to talk all things Covid, and to ask for and share (evidence based, peer reviewed) information. Covid and pregnancy can be scary to navigate, so let's support each other through our pandemic pregnancies. 

This thread is NOT for political debates about vaccines, mandates, etc. 
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  • loveanddatadrivenloveanddatadriven member
    edited September 2021
    Some good news came out this week of a study showing the Covid vaccine does not increase risk of miscarriage.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8117969/
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  • loveanddatadrivenloveanddatadriven member
    @doxiemoxie212 I love the idea of getting a third tri booster since I’ll be due for one as well. I’m going to ask about it at my next appointment.
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  • doxiemoxie212doxiemoxie212 member
    @loveanddatadriven yeah I figure it's never too early to ask because last time there was such a mad dash, I don't want to be waiting for my OB to reply to an email or something while I'm trying to get a booster slot or something. (You'd think it wouldn't have to be that way again, but they took down almost all of our vaccine infrastructure here since we're at 97% partially vaccinated and 90% fully vaccinated among those eligible here so I imagine it'll be nuts again). 
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  • aloha_mamaaloha_mama member
    The CDC hasn’t authorized a third dose for the general population yet, and not only am I pregnant but I’m nine months from my series completion, so I’m vulnerable. Trying not to be super anxious about it, but at least our state now has the restaurants, bars, etc requiring proof of vaccination to enter. That at least is a relief but we have so many tourists that just self-centeredly run over all our guidelines that it might not make a difference anyways. 
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  • kiwi2628kiwi2628 member
    So I’ll be due for the booster mid-November. I will probably ask my midwife what she thinks I should do. My state and especially my county have really right vaccine rates so I might try to push a bit closer to third tri
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  • Ivorytower2Ivorytower2 member
    It would be great to get a third tri booster to try to get some immunity for baby. Ugh, I got decently high fevers with both doses so I definitely would want to wait until I’m feeling better/closer to third tri.
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  • monstera13monstera13 member
    I’m due for my booster at the end of this month. I think I’ll probably take the shot as soon as it’s available rather than waiting til the third trimester because I work in a big inpatient setting and would rather have more immunity to COVID as soon as possible. It’s hard to decide though! Looking forward to talking about it with my new OB. 
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  • AvrilmaiAvrilmai member
    @monstera13 I’m in a similar situation. My 8 month mark is the end of this month and I have direct patient care. I’d rather have that extra protection for me and baby. 
    I asked my OB at my initial visit and she was like as soon as you can get it get. They actually offer it in their office, but since it hasn’t been fully approved yet as a booster the nurse couldn’t schedule me. 

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  • shlecksshlecks member
    I'm going to talk to my OB about it.  One of my clients is an ICU doctor and he said that they've started sort of discouraging healthy people from getting boosters because of how effective the initial vaccine actually is.  I'm not sure if it's preservation of supply or what, but I hadn't heard that before yesterday so I thought it was interesting.
    IAmPregnant Ticker
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  • doula-mamadoula-mama member
    We're only giving booster shots to severely immunocompromised people here (BC), so it doesn't look like that'll be an option for me :(
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  • zamoraspinzamoraspin member
    I got the J&J back in March and I’m hoping boosters will become available later this year mostly so I can pass on increased immunity to these two. I think partly the reason boosters are not yet being offered is many people in the world have yet to get access to even a first round of shots, meanwhile the US is poised to offer boosters (does not look great) AND kids under 12 may be able to get Pfizer before year end which will will take up a lot of doses. I feel pretty good about the protection I have but am masking in any public indoor spaces and DS2 is as well. He is getting so good about his mask but I do wish all adults would wear them because it definitely helps him. We are in TN and are leading the country in all the terrible statistics (including really high cases among kids).
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  • shlecksshlecks member
    @zamoraspin2 I'm in TN too.  Gotta be #1 at something!  😒
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  • doxiemoxie212doxiemoxie212 member
    Our county still requires masks indoors for anyone 2y+ and everyone abides, and our county is extremely vaccinated (90% fully, 97% partially for those eligible). But also in my other bmb alone I know 3 people who got pretty bad (not hospitalized but definitely the worst cold of their lives) breakthrough infections despite full mrna vaccination. My FIL takes arthritis meds and he got ZERO immunity from the first two mrna vaccines. Thankfully he did a sneaky booster back in May and did end up receiving immunity from it. He only discovered it because he has smoldering myeloma so his doctor does regular bloodwork and he lives in NYC so there was a lot of antibody testing infrastructure. 
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  • bien-aimeebien-aimee member
    97% partially vaccinated and 90% full?? Where do you live 😭 I'm in AZ and we are barely pulling in at 50% fully vaxxed. It's been so divisive in our community, it's exhausting. I'll be eligible for a booster in Jan, will probably get it in February so I'm fully in 3rd trimester and hopefully pass on some antibodies to baby.
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  • meow719meow719 member
    No kidding @bien-aimee!!! I live in Indiana and we are barely at 50%. It is beyond frustrating at his point. 
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  • doxiemoxie212doxiemoxie212 member
    @bien-aimee California lol 
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  • SmashJamSmashJam member
    Is anyone planning on asking docs and nurses where they give birth about their views on covid? I've heard lots of news lately involving docs and nurses that are anti vax or believe in treating with ivermectin or think the pandemic is a hoax and I think I'd have a hard time trusting the judgement of people making decisions about my life if they thought current medical science was bullshit and we're coughing on people in picket lines in their spare time. I dunno how honest people would be but just something I'm (over)thinking about, lol.
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  • aloha_mamaaloha_mama member
    @SmashJam I don’t know about other hospitals but where I work, we aren’t allowed to treat patients based on personal beliefs or conspiracy theories. Everything is very strictly moderated by government agencies and regulations. And most— if not all— hospitals will require their employees to be vaccinated by the time we get to April, with very few exceptions. Both my hospitals have begun terminating employment for staff that are refusing the vaccine. If a hospital isn’t following evidence-based practice, CDC and FDA guidelines, and up-to-date technology and medication protocols, then they shouldn’t be in business and you would definitely hear about that stuff ahead of time because it would just be a shit hospital anyways.

    With that being said, this is totally within the realm of appropriate conversations to be having with your OB or CNM. I’m not sure how much you’d be able to talk with the nurses about it because there are usually a whole lot of them and you won’t know who will be on when you deliver. 
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  • doxiemoxie212doxiemoxie212 member
    @SmashJam I would if they didn't require vaccination at our hospital. I think anyone who is crazy would be honest about it because they wouldn't realize they're nuts. 
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  • robbensonrobbenson member
    @bien-aimee I'm in AZ too and I can't believe it. Our government is actually protecting us for free and people won't do it.  With it being hot here I want to do indoor stuff with my almost 3 year old son but I don't feel comfortable at the Phoenix Children's Art Museum or Giggles with all of the people who just don't care.
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  • loveanddatadrivenloveanddatadriven member
    I just found out that the hospital at which I’m planning to deliver now mandates Covid vaccination for staff (enforced with termination of employment starting next month).
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  • bluecampanulabluecampanula member
    @loveanddatadriven ours already did that. They were about a month ahead of the state-wide mandate.  Not even legit medical exemptions were accepted. Overall the hospital took a significant hit with staff, in an already short staffed time. But I don’t think labor & delivery was affected because it’s such a coveted position. All the midwives at the free standing birth center in town are also vaccinated. 
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  • taylorz8912taylorz8912 member
    edited September 2021
    My midwife told me to absolutely not get it while pregnant. How do we know long term side effects yet ? It hasn’t even been a year . Also, they use to prescribe zofran for pregnant woman and that has been removed as safe for pregnancy due to heart defects when babies were born . We’re all human , just because the government said so doesn’t mean it’s safe . Not trying to get into a debate just sharing my midwifes comments . Also want to mention I’m not antivaxx . I just think people should have their own medical freedom and not feel persecuted for it 
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  • taylorz8912taylorz8912 member
    edited September 2021
    @kiwi2628 The actual vaccine hasn’t been around for decades or else they would have rolled it out as soon as covid started happening . They have been researching for a vaccine for a bit now without being successful until about a year ago  . My mother is a nurse so I hear some crazy stories as far as covid and the vaccines . Once again not trying to stir anything up as I respect everyone’s opinions and decisions . 
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  • kiwi2628kiwi2628 member
    @taylorz8912 no of course the vaccine for this specific coronavirus wasn’t made but the technology of vaccines has been in its modern existence for 100 years and in primitive forms for 300 years. But the specific mRNA vaccines were made around a decade ago for other types of coronavirus strains (SARS).  That’s why they were able to make the vaccines so quickly for this coronavirus- because they already had the template. They just needed the specific language of the virus, so to speak.

    My friend worked on the vaccines so that’s why I know quite a bit (Pfizer) about it and why I feel pretty confident with it. 
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  • Ivorytower2Ivorytower2 member
    Speaking of vaccines, really positive Pfizer news today for kids ages 5-11. How are you all feeling about getting your kids vaccinated assuming the FDA approves it within the next few weeks?
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  • monstera13monstera13 member
    @Ivorytower2 That’s such good news! DS3 (almost 4) is not old enough but I’ll be having him get it as soon as his age group is approved. 
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  • doula-mamadoula-mama member
    @Ivorytower2 My little ones are 1.5 and almost 3; as soon as they can get it, they will be!
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  • kiwi2628kiwi2628 member
    My kids are too young for it (3 and 19 months), but once one is approved for their age group I will be first on line. 
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  • zamoraspinzamoraspin member
    @Ivorytower2 My son is 2 and as soon as they approve it for his age group I will get him an appt to be vaccinated. His pedi thought it would be early next year for 2-5 but I do hope they are able to give approval/emergency use this year given the terrible surge we’re seeing in kids. 
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  • aloha_mamaaloha_mama member
    @loveanddatadriven Very well said. I have the unfortunate tendency to get upset and make hot-headed replies to people that are completely unwarranted. Your post was really thoughtful and well written.

    @taylorz8912 I apologize profusely if I added to your feelings of being attacked and bullied. Medical autonomy is important regardless of circumstances. You seem to be a careful, thoughtful person that is just trying to do what’s best for you and your baby, which is all we can really do. This is a weird time in our lives for many reasons and we’re all trying to navigate as best we can, and I applaud you for your bravery in speaking up and hope I/we didn’t drive you away.
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  • doxiemoxie212doxiemoxie212 member
    @loveanddatadriven tone is difficult to convey on the internet, so I want to preface this by saying that I appreciate the sentiment, and I don't feel any ill will toward Taylor or anything, but I want to point out that there's this rhetoric about accepting alternative viewpoints about things like vaccines, etc., but no one ever says, "We have to let the flat earth people have their say, they're valuable members of our society." And at some point there *is* a line between truth and misinformation. The situation we're in right now is like contagious drunk driving - it's different than a personal choice (like drinking and just staying inside your own house might be). Every human life is important, but their viewpoints, if those viewpoints harm others, are not. And I'm not saying Taylor's viewpoints are at that line, but her midwife's probably are. 
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