@kfren that makes me so mad. We're so rigorous about our research on pet food, but it shouldn't have to be that way. We should be able to trust that foods available for pet consumption are safe, at the very least.
@doxiemoxie212 You're right, you shouldn't have to research. It's disgusting. This made me think of an article I read a few weeks ago about kid's makeup being tainted with asbestos. WTF?!?!?!
@krashke ugh now I'm down the same rabbit hole trying to decide if I want to buy the 2017 vista right this very instant. I really liked the gregory color for 2018, but I'm not sure I can justify that for $180, especially since my second choice (henry) is almost identical from photos online. Siiiiigh...
@doxiemoxie212 it's so hard to choose! I haven't pulled the trigger yet but I imagine they are trying to get rid of the 2017 stock so it might not be available at that price for much longer. We have always talked about the Jake color (all black everything) but now I am considering the Taylor because it would be even cheaper and I am concerned that the black color on the frame on the Jake will just scratch off anyway.
*TW LC*
Me & MH: 32 DS: 6/1/18 (Pre-E; IUGR; seizures; NICU) TTC #2: 12/2019 Sept 2020: HSG possible blocked right tube Nov 2020: Letrozole + TI - BFN Dec 2020: Letrozole + TI - BFP!!! EDD 9/18
@krashke I originally liked the black, but decided I wanted a non-black stroller in case we stay in NYC so it's easier to find at places where we have to sort of drop the stroller off if that makes sense. I always see these mountains of black strollers and it just reminds me of all the times I have to find MY black umbrella or something in a sea of black umbrellas lol. Probably not an issue at places with cars.
@krashke@doxiemoxie212 Y'all are better people than me. I'm waiting to do my BBB registry until the 2018 Vistas and Mesas are out, so I can register for those. I have not good reason, just me wanting whatever is shiny and new.
@LaceyBee522 knowing my family and how much people usually spend for babies I highly doubt that someone or even a group of people would buy us the Vista so I figure we're going to have to pay for it regardless and I would rather pay $600 than $900. Also, I feel like it is a bit more justified for you since you're having twins lol.
I have looked at some used ones on FB Marketplace but it's hard to find them from after 2014 and that is when they changed the configuration of the two seats so that they could both face forward. Prior to 2014 the could only face each other.
*TW LC*
Me & MH: 32 DS: 6/1/18 (Pre-E; IUGR; seizures; NICU) TTC #2: 12/2019 Sept 2020: HSG possible blocked right tube Nov 2020: Letrozole + TI - BFN Dec 2020: Letrozole + TI - BFP!!! EDD 9/18
@krashke but if you (or anyone else reading this) don't care about strange colors, you should check out Albee Baby. It's a baby store here in NYC, but it has free shipping everywhere. They have the 2015/2016s in two colors for $549/$527: https://www.albeebaby.com/uppa-baby-vista-strollers.html
@doxiemoxie212@krashke the reason I waited for the 2018 was because they made the back wheels narrower to fit through tighter spaces and the bassinet is longer to accommodate the baby longer as well - those were valuable to me to justify an already high expense. I was going to get the Gregory color and wait for the Jordan mesa car seat to come out in March but I got impatient so I got the Henry car seat and the Henry vista is arriving today. I'm pretty excited for it. I saw the Henry on display at my BBB and it's a super pretty color. Agreed that the older colors are strange. I actually love the new Emmett but stuck with the blue.
ugh @krashke I just tried making a fake registry under my mom's Amazon account, and it still won't give me the completion discount until March 2 (even with a due date of today). In the time since I started to when I finished doing that the number of 2017 vistas in the henry color dropped from 5 to 4. So... not sure it's wise to wait until March 2 to order? Admittedly there are a few other stores I could order from. Will probably order from Albee Baby since I can get points there, at least, and it might be easier to return if needed since there's a physical store here in the city. IDK.
Sorry I have been super swamped at work lately and DD is not sleeping- so I am not sleeping- which is making everything I do take 100% longer. I'm happy I have more work on my desk, but need to balance it better which is unlikely while I'm getting a whopping 5 hours of sleep spread throughout the night. @kfren I completely feel you today- so ready for today to be over and be able to nap when DD naps throughout the day this long weekend.
@doxiemoxie212 that is a crazy amount of page likes... but everyone needs that crazy FB friend. I also know someone that has an obscene amount of FB page likes- but he works in social media- so it's his job. Sounds like she is not involved in social media- if she is only liking every random page she sees.
@MissKittyDanger sorry I didn't get back to you on Lucie's List, but it looks like others helped you. Honestly- don't worry so much about your registry- talk to your mom friends/ family members and look at the registry guides. They will give you an idea of what you could be missing- but if you don't think you will use it- than don't clutter your house with it. Trust me you will buy enough random cr@p after the baby arrives.
I'm so jealous of the Vista talk. I just cannot justify it. I think I may justify the Halo bassinest though- having been up all night for the past month has made me appreciate anything that will help me stay in bed for the days/weeks/months that little man will be up all night.
@doxiemoxie212 dang! so far there's no count down on the Jake but they are going fast. I did play with my due date and changed it to 4/16/2018 and was eligible for the completion discount and it is good for 4 months basically 60 prior to the estimated arrival and 60 days after the estimated arrival so we would still be able to use it until 6/14/2018 which is just about my actual due date so I'm assuming I would use it by then anyway. But I would have to do everything else I want the discount on in one order because you only get two.
*TW LC*
Me & MH: 32 DS: 6/1/18 (Pre-E; IUGR; seizures; NICU) TTC #2: 12/2019 Sept 2020: HSG possible blocked right tube Nov 2020: Letrozole + TI - BFN Dec 2020: Letrozole + TI - BFP!!! EDD 9/18
@krashke I'm buying it from Albee Baby, and then I'm going to return it to Albee Baby if it's still available on Amazon on March 2nd because it'd be an additional $108 savings. So, we'll see how this goes lol.
@doxiemoxie212 that's a good plan. At least you're still saving $ on the 2017 vs the 2018 even if its no longer available on 3/2. I texted MH trying to convince him. He gets his bonus on 3/2 so he wants to wait until then but we can just put it on a credit card now and pay it off when he gets his bonus and not pay interest and not risk them selling out.
*TW LC*
Me & MH: 32 DS: 6/1/18 (Pre-E; IUGR; seizures; NICU) TTC #2: 12/2019 Sept 2020: HSG possible blocked right tube Nov 2020: Letrozole + TI - BFN Dec 2020: Letrozole + TI - BFP!!! EDD 9/18
Baby has the hiccups in there for the first time today. Such a funny feeling! I remember DD1 first having them at 26 weeks so not too far off this time.
So last pregnancy DS stayed head down and nestled into my left side pretty much all pregnancy. I used to go lay down on my right side to force him to the right for a little relief. At my A/S this one was transverse, but guess who found his new spot today? Yep, you guessed. That left side of my uterus must be magic, guys.
Another tidbit, it is kind of cute to feel tiny hands opening and closing near my hipbone, I'd actually forgotten about those little grabby hands. Is it weird that I feel a little sad that it's not DS now but a new person inside? Idk, see symptoms thread, I'm ridiculous lately.
I've been feeling angry at myself for not enjoying playing with DS as much as my husband does. I love caring, feeding, kissing, hugging, and anything else but play. I hate play and I feel like the worst mom ever that I do.
@Austenista Try not to be angry with yourself. I used to always have a rapport with the kids in DH's family that no one else seemed to have because I played with them in ways that nobody else in his family would. It was awesome. Then I had my own, and I feel completely different about playing. I think, for me, a big part of it is being older and the fact that momming can be exhausting. Take it easy on yourself. While I don't know every mom, I feel pretty confident that you are so not the worst!
We pulled the trigger and bought the vista. We went with the color Dennison a brick red/burgundy. I personally preferred the navy blue if we weren’t going for the all black but MH liked the red and if that’s what it took to get him to agree then so be it.
*TW LC*
Me & MH: 32 DS: 6/1/18 (Pre-E; IUGR; seizures; NICU) TTC #2: 12/2019 Sept 2020: HSG possible blocked right tube Nov 2020: Letrozole + TI - BFN Dec 2020: Letrozole + TI - BFP!!! EDD 9/18
@LaceyBee522 I like that the Dennison is a little different then what everyone else seems to get. It’s getting delivered on Sunday (prime baby) and while I should keep it in the box to save space I think I will have to set up my new toy.
*TW LC*
Me & MH: 32 DS: 6/1/18 (Pre-E; IUGR; seizures; NICU) TTC #2: 12/2019 Sept 2020: HSG possible blocked right tube Nov 2020: Letrozole + TI - BFN Dec 2020: Letrozole + TI - BFP!!! EDD 9/18
@Austenista I wouldn't be too hard on yourself. Youre giving huge needs too; love in the form of hugs and cuddles. I'm only 20 min into Bringing up Bebe but she has already alluded to the fact that French mom's let their kids toddle and learn to play on their own. Again, no idea what's coming of this book yet, but there's that. Not gonna lie, I think feeling grabby hands in there maaaaay freak me out a bit. I'm still on the fence about the movement in general. Of course I worry when I don't feel it, but I am definitely not on the train of "oh that's the best part of pregnancy" PS--you are not ridiculous!
@Austenista hugs! You are not a bad mom for not liking to play. I hate it too, and it’s just not my cup of tea. Being a mom is super demanding - hang in there and try not to beat yourself up
Me: 28 | Husband: 39 Married March 2016 DD: born 7.22.16 DS EDD: 6.23.18
@austenista oh you are not alone. All DS want some to play with is dinosaurs. I'm over damn dinos. So I take any advantage I can to get out from playing. And if I have to, I'll hold one dino and half ass a dino fight as I'm barely paying attention. I'm glad I'm not the only one not loving play. And glad I'm not the only one with guilt over it.
he just expects people to play with him all day. I don't remember my parents playing toys with me all damn day.
me:35 DH:34 DS: born oct 2012 TFAS: BFP #1 aug16. miscarriage sept16 BFP #2 nov16 MMC dec16. d&c jan17 BFP #3 sept17 EDD 5/31/18 fingers crossed for our rainbow baby
+1 Bringing Up Bebe. Half way through and thoroughly enjoying it. I actually happened to read this part last night and thought it was worthwhile sharing:
In France, the dominant social message is that while being a parent is very important, it shouldn't subsume one's other roles. Women I know in Paris express this by saying that mothers shouldn't become "enslaved" to their children.
Also, in the beginning of the book there is a short glossary of French parenting terms of which the first is:
attend (ah-tahn) - wait, stop. A command that a French parent says to a child. "Wait" implies that the child doesn't require immediate gratification, and that he can entertain himself.
I'm a FTM so I have no idea if this is all really easier said than done, but at least it strips the guilt a little bit to know that other kids aren't being 100% catered to and they're growing up just fine.
@silvergreen DH and I loved bringing up Bebe. And I think it’s really empowering to think about your role as a parent being to teach your kids patience, how to deal with frustration, and how to fit into your family’s routine. It’s a subtle shift in perspective, but I think that framework will help me cope during tough times more than if I thought my job was to make my kids life wonderful.
I dislike playing with my kids too. My 5yo is both bossy and needy. It's an age thing, but it drives me up the wall. She's currently crying on the couch because I told her she needed to wait to have hot chocolate, because I'm trying to do other stuff. I've never catered to her, never jumped at her every command, it just comes with the age. Makes me feel like a crap parent because she cries all the time, but I'm not going to give in just because she's crying.
@doxiemoxie212 I agree! I always kind of worried about losing myself when becoming a mother. Now I realise it doesn't be have to be that way, and it actually builds resilience in kids that make for a happier adult (The Danish Way of Parenting stresses this also). Sounds like a guilt-free win-win to me! Now just to see it I can actually put it into practice...
@May14th2011 Yep, that's why I figured as a FTM is might sound a little too easy and that putting it into practice might be tougher than it sounds. But kudos to not giving in! Not to compare dogs to kids, but it's kind of the same conditioning. Ignoring the undesirable behaviour (should) eventually eliminate it (by way of extinction).
@MoonOverGoldsboro one of my dogs weighs 7lbs and she was perfect for me to try out my baby carriers last pregnancy. She wasn’t thrilled about being my test subject but she tolerated me.
@doxiemoxie212@MoonOverGoldsboro that's a riot! My cat is definitely *extra* (aren't they all?!) but if I'm not willing to front that money for a stroller for the baby, the cat too, is out of luck. If he's down for the Graco though....Lol
@Austenista My SIL has a little terrier mix that legitimately loved the baby carrier. It was like, “hahahaha, let’s put the dog in here...oh wait, she is super into this.” I think the dog was sad when the baby came!
@doxiemoxie212@amys614 Just...no. Truly, everyone has a right to spend their money how they want to, but this is one of those situations where I wanna be like, listen, if you can shell out Vista money for your GD cat, you have too much. How about you toss a few bucks over this way?!
Me: 34 Husband: 35 Married: June 2007
Son Max born 1/10/17 BFP #2: 10/5/17; EDD: 6/11/18
I definitely don’t feel or see the need to play with kids all the time, a little time everyday.
TW but it also irks me that ppl on social media shame parents, especially mothers, for “dropping off their kids at grandma’s” I’m sorry but I spend at least one day & night with my grandparents every week from ages 5-12 (when I got my period I stopped going regularly and started going over 1-2x per month to help out- since my grandma was blind in one eye and had arthritis). It was great! My grandparents were my favorite people. That’s really who took the time to teach me stuff like how to cook from scratch, sow buttons, hem pants, learned about music from the 60s & 70s, how to press my natural hair. Not to mention they spoiled me cooking whatever I wanted. I think kids NEED time with others especially grandparents (if possible & safe). Unfortunately for my grandparents died less than a year apart when I was 18, right after I left for college. I cherish the moments with them more than anything.
Re: Weekly Randoms (week of 2/12)
This made me think of an article I read a few weeks ago about kid's makeup being tainted with asbestos. WTF?!?!?!
DS: 6/1/18 (Pre-E; IUGR; seizures; NICU)
TTC #2: 12/2019
Sept 2020: HSG possible blocked right tube
Nov 2020: Letrozole + TI - BFN
Dec 2020: Letrozole + TI - BFP!!! EDD 9/18
my random for the day is I hit 24 weeks and viability day today!!! Still a long journey to go but one more milestone for this little baby.
I have looked at some used ones on FB Marketplace but it's hard to find them from after 2014 and that is when they changed the configuration of the two seats so that they could both face forward. Prior to 2014 the could only face each other.
DS: 6/1/18 (Pre-E; IUGR; seizures; NICU)
TTC #2: 12/2019
Sept 2020: HSG possible blocked right tube
Nov 2020: Letrozole + TI - BFN
Dec 2020: Letrozole + TI - BFP!!! EDD 9/18
DS: 6/1/18 (Pre-E; IUGR; seizures; NICU)
TTC #2: 12/2019
Sept 2020: HSG possible blocked right tube
Nov 2020: Letrozole + TI - BFN
Dec 2020: Letrozole + TI - BFP!!! EDD 9/18
@doxiemoxie212 that is a crazy amount of page likes... but everyone needs that crazy FB friend. I also know someone that has an obscene amount of FB page likes- but he works in social media- so it's his job. Sounds like she is not involved in social media- if she is only liking every random page she sees.
@MissKittyDanger sorry I didn't get back to you on Lucie's List, but it looks like others helped you. Honestly- don't worry so much about your registry- talk to your mom friends/ family members and look at the registry guides. They will give you an idea of what you could be missing- but if you don't think you will use it- than don't clutter your house with it. Trust me you will buy enough random cr@p after the baby arrives.
I'm so jealous of the Vista talk. I just cannot justify it. I think I may justify the Halo bassinest though- having been up all night for the past month has made me appreciate anything that will help me stay in bed for the days/weeks/months that little man will be up all night.
BFP#4- 9/26 edd 6/5/18
DS: 6/1/18 (Pre-E; IUGR; seizures; NICU)
TTC #2: 12/2019
Sept 2020: HSG possible blocked right tube
Nov 2020: Letrozole + TI - BFN
Dec 2020: Letrozole + TI - BFP!!! EDD 9/18
DS: 6/1/18 (Pre-E; IUGR; seizures; NICU)
TTC #2: 12/2019
Sept 2020: HSG possible blocked right tube
Nov 2020: Letrozole + TI - BFN
Dec 2020: Letrozole + TI - BFP!!! EDD 9/18
Another tidbit, it is kind of cute to feel tiny hands opening and closing near my hipbone, I'd actually forgotten about those little grabby hands. Is it weird that I feel a little sad that it's not DS now but a new person inside? Idk, see symptoms thread, I'm ridiculous lately.
I've been feeling angry at myself for not enjoying playing with DS as much as my husband does. I love caring, feeding, kissing, hugging, and anything else but play. I hate play and I feel like the worst mom ever that I do.
DS: 6/1/18 (Pre-E; IUGR; seizures; NICU)
TTC #2: 12/2019
Sept 2020: HSG possible blocked right tube
Nov 2020: Letrozole + TI - BFN
Dec 2020: Letrozole + TI - BFP!!! EDD 9/18
@LaceyBee522 I like that the Dennison is a little different then what everyone else seems to get. It’s getting delivered on Sunday (prime baby) and while I should keep it in the box to save space I think I will have to set up my new toy.
DS: 6/1/18 (Pre-E; IUGR; seizures; NICU)
TTC #2: 12/2019
Sept 2020: HSG possible blocked right tube
Nov 2020: Letrozole + TI - BFN
Dec 2020: Letrozole + TI - BFP!!! EDD 9/18
@Austenista I wouldn't be too hard on yourself. Youre giving huge needs too; love in the form of hugs and cuddles. I'm only 20 min into Bringing up Bebe but she has already alluded to the fact that French mom's let their kids toddle and learn to play on their own. Again, no idea what's coming of this book yet, but there's that. Not gonna lie, I think feeling grabby hands in there maaaaay freak me out a bit. I'm still on the fence about the movement in general. Of course I worry when I don't feel it, but I am definitely not on the train of "oh that's the best part of pregnancy" PS--you are not ridiculous!
Married March 2016
DD: born 7.22.16
DS EDD: 6.23.18
he just expects people to play with him all day. I don't remember my parents playing toys with me all damn day.
DS: born oct 2012
TFAS: BFP #1 aug16. miscarriage sept16
BFP #2 nov16 MMC dec16. d&c jan17
BFP #3 sept17 EDD 5/31/18
fingers crossed for our rainbow baby
In France, the dominant social message is that while being a parent is very important, it shouldn't subsume one's other roles. Women I know in Paris express this by saying that mothers shouldn't become "enslaved" to their children.
Also, in the beginning of the book there is a short glossary of French parenting terms of which the first is:
attend (ah-tahn) - wait, stop. A command that a French parent says to a child. "Wait" implies that the child doesn't require immediate gratification, and that he can entertain himself.
I'm a FTM so I have no idea if this is all really easier said than done, but at least it strips the guilt a little bit to know that other kids aren't being 100% catered to and they're growing up just fine.
Makes me feel like a crap parent because she cries all the time, but I'm not going to give in just because she's crying.
Husband: 35
Married: June 2007
Son Max born 1/10/17
BFP #2: 10/5/17; EDD: 6/11/18
@doxiemoxie212 @amys614 Just...no. Truly, everyone has a right to spend their money how they want to, but this is one of those situations where I wanna be like, listen, if you can shell out Vista money for your GD cat, you have too much. How about you toss a few bucks over this way?!
Husband: 35
Married: June 2007
Son Max born 1/10/17
BFP #2: 10/5/17; EDD: 6/11/18
TW but it also irks me that ppl on social media shame parents, especially mothers, for “dropping off their kids at grandma’s” I’m sorry but I spend at least one day & night with my grandparents every week from ages 5-12 (when I got my period I stopped going regularly and started going over 1-2x per month to help out- since my grandma was blind in one eye and had arthritis). It was great! My grandparents were my favorite people. That’s really who took the time to teach me stuff like how to cook from scratch, sow buttons, hem pants, learned about music from the 60s & 70s, how to press my natural hair. Not to mention they spoiled me cooking whatever I wanted. I think kids NEED time with others especially grandparents (if possible & safe). Unfortunately for my grandparents died less than a year apart when I was 18, right after I left for college. I cherish the moments with them more than anything.
TTC: 08/2017 EDD: 6/11/2018 FTM