@yolandamunoz It looks like the purple vertical line is your O day according to the app, and the horizontal purple line is your "cover line," which indicates the division between preovulatory and postovulatory temps. In general, if your temp dips below your cover line in the TWW, it signals AF is near. So in your first chart, you see the temp drop below the cover line. In the second where you got a BFP, your temp stayed up. The combination of the two lines are your "crosshairs." Hope this helps!
@AliciaGoose Oh... my ... god... I think I played Harvest Moon ANB for four hours straight. My DH just chortled when I told him it was super addicting. He believes he played the original one on the Gameboy and thoroughly enjoyed it.
Right now I'm trying to figure out if this Neil guy is gonna be a big deal. There's a heart by his dialogue... but ... no spoilers!! And I have a cow I named "Butter." I'm sure anyone who has no idea what I'm talking about probably thinks I'm a raving lunatic...
Back to TWW! @MissPrint1219@AliciaGoose Thanks for clarifying about ibuprofen. I rarely take it now, because I can never keep straight which time of the month to avoid it (WTO/O/TWW). And by the time AF comes, the worst of the cramping is done anyway. I only take Tylenol now too and it's not very effective. But eh. Looks like Harvest Moon is my drug now anyway.
Random add: Isn't it interesting how fertility apps have the same job but look so different? I'm looking at @yolandamunoz 's and I'm like ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ lol
@yolandamunoz@Wishilivedinflorida is right. The purple lines are your likely ovulation day and your cover line. but I have some concerns about their accuracy about my o date. See my rant below.
So has anyone had a positive OPK but didn't ovulate for 4 more days? My app is telling me that I ovulated on cd17 and I think I ovulated on cd13 or cd14 (based on OPKs and cm). I believe I had a slow rise pattern this month and that's why it's confused.
Thanks @iceandsnowflakes29. I'm mobile bumping or I would try to post. I usually only get a surge for about 12-24 hours and tested negative the day after I think I O'd. To my knowledge I've never had a false surge (based on temps) but I've noticed my BBT's are kinda wonky after my loss.
Thank you ladies! @Wishilivedinflorida now I see it. Maybe I just found the term "crosshairs" confusing hehehehe. So my "revised" ovulation day is CD19 as a result of my first 2 months. I also often have ovulatory pain, so I register it on the app, to add more info.
On ovagraph the crosshairs appear after the cycle is finished. It is kind of a retro-active way to see it. It is consistent with the book though. See, the temp pattern shows you how your cycle usually goes, so you know what to expect next month. Your main indication for current month should be EWCM.
@MooFish2364 thanks. I don't know about oPKs as I've never used them. I don't have quick access to Amazon here in Chile so... I know there is a drugstore that sells the clear blue ones, the only one that brings that brand. This things are more expensive here too! (Clear blue regular test goes for 14 USD).
and @dubcompanion the same happens to me when I see FF charts! LOL
Married 06.21.14 / TTC since 11.15 / BFP 01.03.2016 / MMC 6w5d D&C 02.2016 // BFP 05.06.16 / natural MC 05.12.16 Benched 06.2016-08.2016 / TTC again 09.2016! On a diet. Cranky. BFP 10.02.2016 / NT scan at 12w looked normal / Anatomy scan at 20w everything ok Team blue! / EDD June 11th 2017 DAVID ROGER was born on May 23rd at 37 weeks.
Architect, Peruvian living in Chile. I love art, opera and good chocolate. Started PhD studies in Architecture on 2017. Fur mom of a rescued miniature poodle called Luke Skywalker.
@dubcompanion YESSS I'm so glad you're enjoying it! Woot. No spoilers I love that you named the cow Butter.
Also, @yolandamunoz and @dubcompanion I did the same thing when I looked at the chart! I mean I'm still pretty sure the vertical purple line is O day and horizontal purple line is cover line. But at first I was like HUH? Is the green line predicted O?
@MooFish2364 I had a false OPK high the month of my BFP actually. It was strange. They went from + to -. I even had EWCM and a minimal temp shift (FF gave me crosshairs) but I wasn't convinced. I stopped OPKs and then one day like 5 days later I got a ton of EWCM, used another OPK just to see, and it was +! I ended up ovulating that day. It was strange. So it is definitely possible. I wish I could help more but without the chart it's hard.
@AliciaGoose I really hope that I didn't o late. DH and I went at it too hard in the 10 days before my suspected o that we didn't BD again for about 6 days. I guess time will tell. I'm still checking cm and I've had thick creamy cm. so if I did o late I'm totally having cm issues.
@MooFish2364 Fingers crossed you didn't O late as well! When that happened to me I had all of the signs become + a second time, which doesn't sound like the case for you!
The fact I analyzed .35 and .28 dips at 4 and 6 DPO is cute now. Today I had a .84 degree drop at 8-9 DPO. Any thoughts or ideas? I even took it twice in a row because I was like, WTF. Granted, I had a terrible night of sleeping. My DH was snoring, and one of my cats decided to climb on my back and chirp in my ear at 3 AM. I was not a happy mama... But I would think a crappy night of sleep would make my temps higher, not lower...
@dubcompanion Temps are weird. One (or two or three) dip doesn't usually mean anything, it's about the whole picture they paint. Most pregnancy charts do not indicate pregnancy, except that it remains elevated beyond 18 DPO. Basically all you get out of your bbt is confirmation of ovulation and anything else it might tell you is in retrospect.
Renee, 34 + Devon, 29 married 08/13 TTC 09/15 *TW Loss mentioned* BFP 12/15/15 EDD: 08/26/16 MMC discovered 1/25/16 at 9 +3 TTCAL 3/2016 Acupuncture 11/16 Dx December 2016: unexplained January 2017: 50 mg Clomid + TI = BFP #2 01/30/17 Please be a sticky baby! EDD: 10/15/17 Measuring ahead! 10/12/17 Ambrose born on his due date!
I kept getting shady tests and no af so I went and had a beta done and my hcg is 11. It can't be viable if my beta on Friday was less than 5 and my progesterone level was 5
Oh @iceandsnowflakes29 my heart is breaking for you. When will you have your second beta? I know sometimes it seems pointless to have hope in this devastating process but just maybe there's a chance. Miracles do happen, I'll be praying for you.
DH - 34, Me - 32 Married 7/13 TTC #1 since 10/13 BFP 2/4/15, MC twin boys at 18w3d 5/15 IUI #1 2/25/16
Insensitive nurses are the freakin worst! Hopefully you won't have to deal with her again! I called for results once (my OBs office is never proactive about calling to share results) and was super excited to think I ovulated on my own, which I told the nurse, and she just said "Nope looks like you didn't, levels at <0.5. Any questions?" And then my eyes started stinging with tears, so I choked out a no and I just hung up. To them we are just another patient but to us they are delivering life altering information. I wish they realized that!
Best of luck on Friday!
DH - 34, Me - 32 Married 7/13 TTC #1 since 10/13 BFP 2/4/15, MC twin boys at 18w3d 5/15 IUI #1 2/25/16
Married 06.21.14 / TTC since 11.15 / BFP 01.03.2016 / MMC 6w5d D&C 02.2016 // BFP 05.06.16 / natural MC 05.12.16 Benched 06.2016-08.2016 / TTC again 09.2016! On a diet. Cranky. BFP 10.02.2016 / NT scan at 12w looked normal / Anatomy scan at 20w everything ok Team blue! / EDD June 11th 2017 DAVID ROGER was born on May 23rd at 37 weeks.
Architect, Peruvian living in Chile. I love art, opera and good chocolate. Started PhD studies in Architecture on 2017. Fur mom of a rescued miniature poodle called Luke Skywalker.
@iceandsnowflakes29 So sorry! FX for better betas on Friday. Also, seriously, wtf is up with rude nurses?! They work in a field that requires compassion, how the heck do they manage to keep their jobs with that behaviour?
oh @iceandsnowflakes29 I'm so sorry. I was actually wondering if it was possible you could have a BFP based on your chart but I was hoping for much more certainty or positive news for you. Please keep us updated and my thoughts are with you
Thank you everyone. DH and I agreed we are just going to take this one day at a time. That's all we can do. I'm hoping I implanted late. I'm probably just grasping at straws. I spotted for 3 days and then it stopped.
By that point, I just wanted my period.
This whole thing has been bizarre. Anyway, thanks for the support and good thoughts. I always have all of you in my thoughts
@roxgibbons I hear you. It's that early part of the TWW where it's kind of boring and you can't get too crazy because implantation hasn't happened yet.
I'm going to keep munching on my pineapple (which tastes much better today, @reneeannemm!) and try to get through this next week to 10dpo with minimal craziness, I hope. Then, it's on. I have all the Wondfo's.
For those of you suffering through munching on Pineapple cores, a lovely friend of mine over on TTGP decided one day to purée it and eat it that way. She said it tastes like applesauce and was actually pretty delicious.
@iceandsnowflakes29 very sorry for the low beta, FX that Friday brings better news! Also sorry about the rude nurse!
Cautiously joining in over here, temp this gave me CH but I am not sure since it is so much earlier than usual! I usual O at CD15/16 but FF is saying the cycle it was at CD11, guess it is possible since our loss was just in March so probably still regulating. Good news is it is right at least we BD the day before. CS welcome, sorry if it's huge I am mobile bumping right now!
@lilylover27 we have the same BBT this morning! I'm further in my cycle and this is the highest temp I've ever had. I even checked it twice because it's never been that high. My app took my CHs away though but I'm wondering if I'm going triphasic. I don't think I ever have before so it will be interesting to see what happens tomorrow. FWIW I do think you ovulated on cd11. It looks to me like you've had a clear temp shift.
@MooFish2364 how funny to have the same BBT! This is a usual high for me post O so I know that's good. Just so strange that O was on CD11, I have never had it that early before! Well one time is said CD9 but future temps took that away so I guess I will just try and hang in there and see if it moves or what not. I like temping to understand where I am at but sometimes I feel like it adds some anxiety especially TTCAL when things are all wonky!
Married: June 2011 TTC #1: September 2015-January 2016 BFP #1: 1/25/16 - MMC Diagnosed 3/22/16 TTCAL: June 2016 BFP #2: 8/26/16 - EDD 5/9/17 Jackson born 5/6/17 at 8:36 PM - 9lbs 5oz & 21in
Renee, 34 + Devon, 29 married 08/13 TTC 09/15 *TW Loss mentioned* BFP 12/15/15 EDD: 08/26/16 MMC discovered 1/25/16 at 9 +3 TTCAL 3/2016 Acupuncture 11/16 Dx December 2016: unexplained January 2017: 50 mg Clomid + TI = BFP #2 01/30/17 Please be a sticky baby! EDD: 10/15/17 Measuring ahead! 10/12/17 Ambrose born on his due date!
Does anyone familiar with slow rise pattern know if it can signal anovulation? Could you get a rise at all if you didn't ovulate? I'm freaking myself out here because I didn't have O pains this cycle and I'm looking obsessively at my crappy chart wondering if it happened at all. I almost always clearly feel pains and have a big spike. Ugh. Someone please talk me down.
@Wishilivedinflorida I'm pretty sure a temperature shift of any sort indicates ovulation, but of course you can technically only confirm ovulation with a 7DPO blood test. I have a chart that shows a slow rise. I did not get pregnant that month. I have read a bit about it and it looks like a slow rise might just show a weaker ovulation that one that causes a big spike. That's not to say that's always a bad thing though, I'm sure you could find many FF charts that show pregnancy and slow rise patterns.
@Wishilivedinflorida I had a fairly slow rise the month of my bfp, and most of my cycles actually. Makes me crazy, especially waiting to see if I've O'ed.
Thanks @BornReady. Worrying isn't going to change anything now, I guess. I'm just mad today, mad that my cycles didn't bounce back to "normal" like they did after my first loss. I did open "charts like mine" and some definitely ended in BFP's and a few with CP. I think I need to put FF down and chill out. I think it doesn't help that I don't know how many dpo I truly am. Hoping for zen for the next week...ha!
@Wishilivedinflorida Wish I could help. I'm still very much a temping n00b. Also, I've never thought to check if I can search for charts like mine on Kindara... You can spread your BSC onto me so you can get some time to relax!
@Amdogger82 The month I got my one and only BFP we were only HIO EOD. I think if I do temping long enough and start seeing O patterns, *maybe* we won't have to be so enthusiastic? The downside to this statement is that I'd be TTCAL long enough to get to that point. Womp womp.
Re: **June TWW**
Right now I'm trying to figure out if this Neil guy is gonna be a big deal. There's a heart by his dialogue... but ... no spoilers!! And I have a cow I named "Butter."
I'm sure anyone who has no idea what I'm talking about probably thinks I'm a raving lunatic...
Back to TWW! @MissPrint1219 @AliciaGoose Thanks for clarifying about ibuprofen. I rarely take it now, because I can never keep straight which time of the month to avoid it (WTO/O/TWW). And by the time AF comes, the worst of the cramping is done anyway. I only take Tylenol now too and it's not very effective. But eh. Looks like Harvest Moon is my drug now anyway.
So has anyone had a positive OPK but didn't ovulate for 4 more days? My app is telling me that I ovulated on cd17 and I think I ovulated on cd13 or cd14 (based on OPKs and cm). I believe I had a slow rise pattern this month and that's why it's confused.
@Wishilivedinflorida now I see it. Maybe I just found the term "crosshairs" confusing hehehehe. So my "revised" ovulation day is CD19 as a result of my first 2 months. I also often have ovulatory pain, so I register it on the app, to add more info.
On ovagraph the crosshairs appear after the cycle is finished. It is kind of a retro-active way to see it. It is consistent with the book though. See, the temp pattern shows you how your cycle usually goes, so you know what to expect next month. Your main indication for current month should be EWCM.
@MooFish2364 thanks. I don't know about oPKs as I've never used them. I don't have quick access to Amazon here in Chile so... I know there is a drugstore that sells the clear blue ones, the only one that brings that brand. This things are more expensive here too! (Clear blue regular test goes for 14 USD).
and @dubcompanion the same happens to me when I see FF charts! LOL
BFP 01.03.2016 / MMC 6w5d D&C 02.2016 // BFP 05.06.16 / natural MC 05.12.16
Benched 06.2016-08.2016 / TTC again 09.2016! On a diet. Cranky.
BFP 10.02.2016 / NT scan at 12w looked normal / Anatomy scan at 20w everything ok
Team blue! / EDD June 11th 2017
DAVID ROGER was born on May 23rd at 37 weeks.
Architect, Peruvian living in Chile. I love art, opera and good chocolate.
Started PhD studies in Architecture on 2017.
Fur mom of a rescued miniature poodle called Luke Skywalker.
@dubcompanion YESSS
Also, @yolandamunoz and @dubcompanion I did the same thing when I looked at the chart! I mean I'm still pretty sure the vertical purple line is O day and horizontal purple line is cover line. But at first I was like HUH? Is the green line predicted O?
@MooFish2364 I had a false OPK high the month of my BFP actually. It was strange. They went from + to -. I even had EWCM and a minimal temp shift (FF gave me crosshairs) but I wasn't convinced. I stopped OPKs and then one day like 5 days later I got a ton of EWCM, used another OPK just to see, and it was +! I ended up ovulating that day. It was strange. So it is definitely possible. I wish I could help more but without the chart it's hard.
Married: November 2015
TTC#1: January 2016
BFP: 5/02/16 - MC: 5/27/16
Married: November 2015
TTC#1: January 2016
BFP: 5/02/16 - MC: 5/27/16
I even took it twice in a row because I was like, WTF. Granted, I had a terrible night of sleeping. My DH was snoring, and one of my cats decided to climb on my back and chirp in my ear at 3 AM. I was not a happy mama... But I would think a crappy night of sleep would make my temps higher, not lower...
TTC 09/15
*TW Loss mentioned*
BFP 12/15/15 EDD: 08/26/16
MMC discovered 1/25/16 at 9 +3
TTCAL 3/2016
Acupuncture 11/16
Dx December 2016: unexplained
January 2017: 50 mg Clomid + TI =
BFP #2 01/30/17 Please be a sticky baby!
EDD: 10/15/17 Measuring ahead! 10/12/17
Ambrose born on his due date!
TW BFP (most likely loss)
I kept getting shady tests and no af so I went and had a beta done and my hcg is 11. It can't be viable if my beta on Friday was less than 5 and my progesterone level was 5
Married 7/13
TTC #1 since 10/13
BFP 2/4/15, MC twin boys at 18w3d 5/15
IUI #1 2/25/16
Edit to add nurse that gave me that news was a f-ing bitch.
I called for results once (my OBs office is never proactive about calling to share results) and was super excited to think I ovulated on my own, which I told the nurse, and she just said "Nope looks like you didn't, levels at <0.5. Any questions?" And then my eyes started stinging with tears, so I choked out a no and I just hung up. To them we are just another patient but to us they are delivering life altering information. I wish they realized that!
Best of luck on Friday!
Married 7/13
TTC #1 since 10/13
BFP 2/4/15, MC twin boys at 18w3d 5/15
IUI #1 2/25/16
~~~~ TW ~~~~~~
Me: 40 DH: 39
Married 12.19.13
BFP #1 1/14, MC 2/14 (6wks)
BFP #2 1/15, MMC/D&C 3/15 (12wks)
BFP #3 6/15, MC 8/15 (9wks)
BFP #4 4/16, MC 4/16 (5wks)
BFP #5 7/16, MMC 8/16 (10 wks)
BFP #6 3/4 , EDD 11/9/17
rude Nurses are the worst!!!
BFP 01.03.2016 / MMC 6w5d D&C 02.2016 // BFP 05.06.16 / natural MC 05.12.16
Benched 06.2016-08.2016 / TTC again 09.2016! On a diet. Cranky.
BFP 10.02.2016 / NT scan at 12w looked normal / Anatomy scan at 20w everything ok
Team blue! / EDD June 11th 2017
DAVID ROGER was born on May 23rd at 37 weeks.
Architect, Peruvian living in Chile. I love art, opera and good chocolate.
Started PhD studies in Architecture on 2017.
Fur mom of a rescued miniature poodle called Luke Skywalker.
Me: 26 DH: 28
TTC #1 since 06/2014
BFP #1 09/23/15. MMC discovered 11/24/2015
BFP #2 08/24/16 EDD 05/08/17
oh @iceandsnowflakes29 I'm so sorry. I was actually wondering if it was possible you could have a BFP based on your chart but I was hoping for much more certainty or positive news for you. Please keep us updated and my thoughts are with you
By that point, I just wanted my period.
This whole thing has been bizarre. Anyway, thanks for the support and good thoughts. I always have all of you in my thoughts
I'm now in the full swing of TWW at 5dpiui. I'm not going insane quite yet.
Me (39) DH (40)
From my first marriage DD: 03/04 CP:01/06 DS:12/06
DH- no kids
******************
TTC: since 2/15, RE Consult 9/15
IUI #1 10/15: Letrozole = BFN
IUI #2 11/15: Letrozole + trigger = BFN
1/08/16: Surprise- BFP!! 2/16/16: MMC @10w 2days, D&C: 2/17/16
TTCAL: May 2016
IUI #3 5/27/16: Letrozole+trigger=BFN
IUI #4 06/24/16: 7.5mg Letrozole+trigger= BFN
IUI#5 08/24/16 Menopur+trigger = BFN
IUI #6 09/19/16 5 mg Letrozole +Menopur + Trigger= BFN
**10/2016: No more medicated cycles, TTCAL on our own**
12/03/16: BFP!! EDD: 08/12/17 It's a girl!!
Eleni was born on 8/14/17!!
I'm going to keep munching on my pineapple (which tastes much better today, @reneeannemm!) and try to get through this next week to 10dpo with minimal craziness, I hope. Then, it's on. I have all the Wondfo's.
For those of you suffering through munching on Pineapple cores, a lovely friend of mine over on TTGP decided one day to purée it and eat it that way. She said it tastes like applesauce and was actually pretty delicious.
Married: November 2015
TTC#1: January 2016
BFP: 5/02/16 - MC: 5/27/16
Cautiously joining in over here, temp this gave me CH but I am not sure since it is so much earlier than usual! I usual O at CD15/16 but FF is saying the cycle it was at CD11, guess it is possible since our loss was just in March so probably still regulating. Good news is it is right at least we BD the day before. CS welcome, sorry if it's huge I am mobile bumping right now!
TTC #1: September 2015-January 2016
BFP #1: 1/25/16 - MMC Diagnosed 3/22/16
TTCAL: June 2016
BFP #2: 8/26/16 - EDD 5/9/17
Jackson born 5/6/17 at 8:36 PM - 9lbs 5oz & 21in
Edited: because it's early and I forgot words.
TTC #1: September 2015-January 2016
BFP #1: 1/25/16 - MMC Diagnosed 3/22/16
TTCAL: June 2016
BFP #2: 8/26/16 - EDD 5/9/17
Jackson born 5/6/17 at 8:36 PM - 9lbs 5oz & 21in
@iceandsnowflakes29 Good vibes for a happy outcome.
TTC 09/15
*TW Loss mentioned*
BFP 12/15/15 EDD: 08/26/16
MMC discovered 1/25/16 at 9 +3
TTCAL 3/2016
Acupuncture 11/16
Dx December 2016: unexplained
January 2017: 50 mg Clomid + TI =
BFP #2 01/30/17 Please be a sticky baby!
EDD: 10/15/17 Measuring ahead! 10/12/17
Ambrose born on his due date!
@Wishilivedinflorida I had a fairly slow rise the month of my bfp, and most of my cycles actually. Makes me crazy, especially waiting to see if I've O'ed.
Can't even try to keep up with @dubcompanion's
ETA: I don't think I could ever keep up with @dubcompanion. #BDgoals
@Amdogger82 The month I got my one and only BFP we were only HIO EOD.