Ok with wine, so what about pot?

oxnchar · March 2014

I have wondered and said the same thing. Me personally I would judge you for smoking pot, but I would also judge you for drinking wine. I dont agree with either while pregnant. Not pregnant totally thinks it should be legal everywhere! you cant tell me you dont get a little buzz on when drinking a glass of wine, could you imagine how your baby feels. Why not do a shot of vodka or shotgun a beer. NO WAY!

Mizoo · March 2014

oxnchar said:

I have wondered and said the same thing. Me personally I would judge you for smoking pot, but I would also judge you for drinking wine. I dont agree with either while pregnant. Not pregnant totally thinks it should be legal everywhere! you cant tell me you dont get a little buzz on when drinking a glass of wine, could you imagine how your baby feels. Why not do a shot of vodka or shotgun a beer. NO WAY!

I don't think anyone was saying they pour a glass of wine and slam it down in 3 seconds. When I have the occasional drink, I sip on my one serving over the course of an hour or even two. So no, I don't get a buzz from one drink, sorry to burst your bubble.

If I did a shot of vodka, or shotgunned a beer, or slammed my wine back in 3 seconds, I'm sure I would get a small buzz - but that's not what is happening.

PrimRoseMama · March 2014

Lol at readyornot judging us as judge mental SOB's. Judging the judgers lol.

PrimRoseMama · March 2014

I just picture the pg-pot-smokers:

"You're a towel!"

KellyBelly5569 · March 2014

https://patients4medicalmarijuana.wordpress.com/marijuana-info/marijuana-during-pregnancy/

Doctor who has been studying this for 30 years

KellyBelly5569 · March 2014

Since I can assure my link will not be sufficient enough, here are some other pot smoking pregos from 2007

https://www.babycenter.com/400_smoking-marijuana-during-pregnancy_2295527_800.bc

KellyBelly5569 · March 2014

Look up "benefits of smoking marijuana while pregnant" instead of these biased websites saying how if effects IQ pssh, please. If it effects IQ status then there would be a lot of stupid people in this world. Oh look, there on this site! ha!

PrimRoseMama · March 2014

KellyBelly5569 said:
Look up "benefits of smoking marijuana while pregnant" instead of these biased websites saying how if effects IQ pssh, please. If it effects IQ status then there would be a lot of stupid people in this world. Oh look, there on this site! ha!

They're*

Omg, just stop talking about how intelligent you are or something. You aren't. Your brain is burnt out. You don't even understand their vs. there vs. they're. Jesus Christ.

Please stop trying to be the poster child for the "it's all good in the brain hood" pot smoker. You are epically failing, dude.

enigmasara · March 2014

I haven't said anything in this thread so far, but I did mention it to one of my friends. She has an adopted son (adopted at birth) and the birth mother freely admitted to smoking pot on a regular basis for the first three months, until she found out she was pregnant. My friend's comment to me was "well, look at my son & his issues with focusing, behavior, and ADHD tendencies (they haven't labeled him with that yet) and try to convince me that smoking pot during pregnancy does no harm".

There is no way I would risk it myself until multiple, very thorough, long term studies were done.

Tassie06 · March 2014

enigmasara said:

I haven't said anything in this thread so far, but I did mention it to one of my friends. She has an adopted son (adopted at birth) and the birth mother freely admitted to smoking pot on a regular basis for the first three months, until she found out she was pregnant. My friend's comment to me was "well, look at my son & his issues with focusing, behavior, and ADHD tendencies (they haven't labeled him with that yet) and try to convince me that smoking pot during pregnancy does no harm".

There is no way I would risk it myself until multiple, very thorough, long term studies were done.

I'm not condoning smoking, vaporizing or eating pot during pregnancy, but how do you explain all the other children in the world who have ADHD, ADD, behavioural, problems and learning disabilities, among other things, when their moms never touched the stuff? Pot was not the issue!

enigmasara · March 2014

Tassie06 said:

enigmasara said:

I haven't said anything in this thread so far, but I did mention it to one of my friends. She has an adopted son (adopted at birth) and the birth mother freely admitted to smoking pot on a regular basis for the first three months, until she found out she was pregnant. My friend's comment to me was "well, look at my son & his issues with focusing, behavior, and ADHD tendencies (they haven't labeled him with that yet) and try to convince me that smoking pot during pregnancy does no harm".

There is no way I would risk it myself until multiple, very thorough, long term studies were done.

I'm not condoning smoking, vaporizing or eating pot during pregnancy, but how do you explain all the other children in the world who have ADHD, ADD, behavioural, problems and learning disabilities, among other things, when their moms never touched the stuff? Pot was not the issue!

I'm most definitely not saying there is a definitive link, nor am I saying that there aren't other factors that can cause all of the above mentioned problems. I'm just repeating what she said word for word. My feelings are that it's not worth the risk at this point with as little data as there is.

Empireceo · March 2014

KellyBelly5569 said:

If it effects IQ status then there would be a lot of stupid people in this world. Oh look, there on this site! ha!

This is my favorite thing I've ever read on this site.

Alexfree7 · March 2014

Before being pregnant I smoked my fair share but about 5 weeks pregnant I stopped. I miss it that's for sure but I would die knowing that my poor child had side effects bc of my ignorance to smoke. I don't agree with drinking alcohol either. I rather be safe then sorry. Growing a human being is something special that not all women get to experience, don't be selfish and take care of yourself and your baby.

Hadynimogen · March 2014

Sorry yes id be judging you for smoking pot without being pregnant, i just think it is irresponsible.

PS for the record i also get killer miagrains but i dont go reaching for the pot.

KellyBelly5569 · March 2014

Tassie06 said:

enigmasara said:

I haven't said anything in this thread so far, but I did mention it to one of my friends. She has an adopted son (adopted at birth) and the birth mother freely admitted to smoking pot on a regular basis for the first three months, until she found out she was pregnant. My friend's comment to me was "well, look at my son & his issues with focusing, behavior, and ADHD tendencies (they haven't labeled him with that yet) and try to convince me that smoking pot during pregnancy does no harm".

There is no way I would risk it myself until multiple, very thorough, long term studies were done.

I'm not condoning smoking, vaporizing or eating pot during pregnancy, but how do you explain all the other children in the world who have ADHD, ADD, behavioural, problems and learning disabilities, among other things, when their moms never touched the stuff? Pot was not the issue!

Now that's a good arguement!

veetveet · March 2014

I do everything "right" and lose my baby- and people are here drinking wine and smoking pot

Smh.

Empireceo · March 2014

KellyBelly5569 said:

You're retarded. Ever heard of a typo dumb ass? Go smoke a joint. Poor baby needs to calm down with a psycho mom like you

Now you're using the r-word? There's no way you're a nurse at any reputable health care facility. You're an offensive, ignorant piece of trash. GTFO.

Meery82 · March 2014

Empireceo said:

KellyBelly5569 said:

You're retarded. Ever heard of a typo dumb ass? Go smoke a joint. Poor baby needs to calm down with a psycho mom like you

Now you're using the r-word? There's no way you're a nurse at any reputable health care facility. You're an offensive, ignorant piece of trash. GTFO.

She's not a freakin nurse at all. She can't even spell argument. Please let the ban hammer drop!! Take out the trash, mods!!

ready-or-not · March 2014

"veetveet": I do everything "right" and lose my baby- and people are here drinking wine and smoking pot

Smh.

So SO sorry for you

(

PrimRoseMama · March 2014

Empireceo said:

KellyBelly5569 said:

You're retarded. Ever heard of a typo dumb ass? Go smoke a joint. Poor baby needs to calm down with a psycho mom like you

Now you're using the r-word? There's no way you're a nurse at any reputable health care facility. You're an offensive, ignorant piece of trash. GTFO.

Was she replying to me? Lol that her solution to any problem is to smoke a joint. No, no-- just learn to cope @kellybelly5569 . How am I a psycho?

Also, I know your brain is fried n' all, but both my kids are out of my uterus.

PrimRoseMama · March 2014

Also @kellybelly5569 : the R word? Really? That's messed up. I hope they ban you. Stick that in your oh-so-used pipe & smoke it. >:/

Truelove21 · March 2014

Well thank you. I was trying not to offend or provoke anyone but that's never possible it seems.

softsoprano · March 2014

Ok, I'm gonna throw my two cents in.

@kellybelly5569 You should just stop. Your "arguments" are doing nothing for your case, in fact you are just proving the haters right. Telling people they need to smoke a joint and stfu? Really? That's not productive at all.

OP is taking a risk using pot to alleviate her migraine symptoms, and the risk is unknown because it hasn't been studied extensively. But we all take risks when taking prescription drugs, because even though they've been studied and approved by the FDA, we still hear about how years later it turns out there's some major side effect for drug XYZ. There is very little certainty in medicine.

OP also pointed to alleviating her high blood pressure due to the migraine as being beneficial to the baby, and then another poster pointed out smoking actually increases your blood pressure (I'm sorry I'm not quoting, there are 12 pages here and I'm just not going to go back and search). First, that pot increases your blood pressure is even debatable. Just do a quick google search. WebMd says pot increases BP, the Mayo Clinic says it may decrease your BP. Even if it does increase, the question here is for what period of time does pot increase your blood pressure? If it's only increased for say 20 minutes, does that offset the strain of OP having high blood pressure from the migraine alone for over an hour? (assuming driving time, the time to see someone and the time for the script to take effect).

As far as how maternal use of pot can be studied as mothers wouldn't intentionally put their child in harms way: 1) as a PP stated, if a mother is out of options, she is likely to try something risky and potentially dangerous. 2) More mothers will be willing to be studied when pot is decriminalized and they don't have to fear CPS. That's why there is so little information regarding drug use and it's effects in general, because of the fear of retribution for use of an illegal substance. Plenty of mothers consented to the study of the effect of cigarette smoking while pregnant, even though they knew it was bad, because it wasn't illegal and therefore no fear was involved.

As far as the insinuations that pot smokers make bad parents. That's bullshit. Yes, some of you were calling into question a person's parenting skills for smoking while pregnant alone, but some of you clearly have a negative opinion of parents who choose to smoke pot ("where are your kids while you're smoking?" and what was the made up website? deadbeatpotparents.com or something like that). I've known plenty of parents who are productive members of society and hold down jobs and love their children very much and are raising them to not be assholes and who also enjoy smoking pot. They don't smoke in front of their kids (2nd hand smoke). Some just wait until the kids are in bed, some do a trade off where parent A watches the kids while parent B "goes to the bathroom" or whatever the excuse is for leaving the room. The thing to keep in mind is that pot affects people differently. There are functional stoners who can be high and still do whatever needs to be done. Then there are the lazy stoners, the ones who get high, get the munchies and do nothing productive. And just like alcohol there are people who over do it with pot, but just like everyone who drinks is not an alcoholic not everyone who smokes is a burnt out loser.

As for where I stand personally on the issue. Before trying to get pregnant Husband and I smoked on the regular and enjoyed the shit out of it. But once we started trying it just wasn't worth the risk. Even though I think it would be a small risk if I were to use it for morning sickness (which at this point I'm thinking may be more effective than zofran), like most people, if something were to go wrong I would blame myself (at least with zofran I can always blame my doctor, BigPharma and the FDA). I also don't think it's worth the risk to drink a glass of wine a night six days a week. Doctors are still divided on this. And what if I didn't like wine? Could I have a beer or a rum and coke a night instead?

I apologize for this novel.

softsoprano · March 2014

Seriously, I'm sorry about the length.... I didn't realize how long I had gone on until I saw it posted. Sorry.

Meery82 · March 2014

She's banned! Finally! <:-P

WashingtonQueen · March 2014

Meery82 said:

She's banned! Finally! <:-P </div>

@meery82 Is it just me or have there been a lot of trolls lately?

Meery82 · March 2014

WashingtonQueen said:

Meery82 said:

She's banned! Finally! <:-P </div>
@meery82 Is it just me or have there been a lot of trolls lately?

There's definitely been more than usual.

ready-or-not · March 2014

@softsoprano: PREACH!

PrimRoseMama · March 2014

You are all TOWELS!

ready-or-not · March 2014

The fact that you quote south park (& i only know that from the previous post) I think makes YOU the towel. Whatever that is lol

PrimRoseMama · March 2014

ready-or-not said:
The fact that you quote south park (& i only know that from the previous post) I think makes YOU the towel. Whatever that is lol

LMFAO -- "No, you're a towel!" :P

Amberxo · April 2014

Both wine and pot are drugs why have any at all?

WashingtonQueen · April 2014

@Amberxo, why did you feel the need to bring this thread back to the top?

JoyfulJuly · April 2014

I want to preface this by saying that I don't drink or smoke or indulge in recreational drugs. However, I'm finding it interesting to see so many of you proclaim that the effects of cannabis during pregnancy have not been widely studied when, in fact, it's used in many places worldwide as a treatment for morning sickness during pregnancy and has been widely studied. It's also less harmful than fetal alcohol syndrome. I'm not advocating for either but I've lost count of how many people have posted to the effect of how much more harmful it is and how little it's been studied when it's the opposite. It's just not as socially accepted in western cultures.

I would certainly agree with those who have written about the safety issues surrounding contamination of cannabis because it can be laced with a lot. Then again, so can supplements, herbal teas, etc.

JoyfulJuly · April 2014

enigmasara said:

I haven't said anything in this thread so far, but I did mention it to one of my friends. She has an adopted son (adopted at birth) and the birth mother freely admitted to smoking pot on a regular basis for the first three months, until she found out she was pregnant. My friend's comment to me was "well, look at my son & his issues with focusing, behavior, and ADHD tendencies (they haven't labeled him with that yet) and try to convince me that smoking pot during pregnancy does no harm".

There is no way I would risk it myself until multiple, very thorough, long term studies were done.

This is actually textbook typical of students whose mothers smoke cigarettes while pregnant. Cigarettes affect the brain more adversely than marijuana and would cause difficulties with executive functioning skills, working memory, ADHD...exactly what your'e describing. She may have been smoking cigarettes during her pregnancy, as well.

LucilleAustero · April 2014

Why would you risk it? That is what it should come down to. How selfish does one have to be to risk harm to their child? Any logical and sane person would think ' there is not any evidence that says that this is 100% not harmful to my baby'. Let me tell you, if you are too selfish to handle giving up pot during your pregnancy, you are going to have one hell of a rough time handling the selflessness that is expected of you as a mother. And if it is that big a deal to give up pot for the duration of a pregnancy, you have bigger issues. I am really hoping that this is MUD.

Crazypregoseverywhere · April 2014

Meery82 said:

She's banned! Finally! <:-P

How hard is it for someone to be banned and then make another profile? You guys are all low lives. Go smoke one, you will feel better.

Meery82 · April 2014

Crazypregoseverywhere said:

Meery82 said:

She's banned! Finally! <:-P

How hard is it for someone to be banned and then make another profile? You guys are all low lives. Go smoke one, you will feel better.

Ah, so it's you. When are you going to take a hint and fuck off for good??

cayshaharcrow · June 2014

^^^This is me, weeping for humanity, yet again. Jesus Christ, lay off the drugs while you're pregnant, would it kill you to not take hits from your bong while another human being is developing in your body? Do whatever you want while you're not pregnant, but seeing as you are, be a little less selfish.

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