Ok with wine, so what about pot?

yvanehtnioj

I enjoy the occasional bit of weed and will continue to do so, probably forever. But I haven't/would not while pregnant. I guess your question was, do I judge you? Answer: I don't know. I can't get up the energy to care one way or another.

Meery82

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Meery82 said:

This post really fucking pisses me off. There are people who would do anything to have a baby. People who have been trying for years. People who would actually make wonderful parents. OP is on her 4th freakin kid and treats her unborn children with such utter disrespect and harm. This world really isn't fair. OP, you are absolutely disgusting.

Thats a little harsh, & I really think you should settle back a bit.  You don't know me, you have no idea how wonderful I treat my children & how thankful I am every single day that I have been blessed with every one of my 4 "freakin" kids.  I have no control over others infertility, & if I could help even one person overcome infertility I would in a minute.  I would never wish that on anyone so just step off your high horse sister.  We all have our vices, & obviously being judgmental & close minded is yours. 

The truth hurts. Sorry not sorry. You want to help infertile couples? Give them your children. They deserve parents who will care for them properly and not do things that will deliberately harm them. I find it hard to believe that you do do something that shitty, like smoking pot while pregnant, and are a picture perfect mother in every other way. That's laughable if you expect me to believe that.

ready-or-not

I find it hard to believe that your a picture perfect mother either.  I was unaware that perfect parents exisited in the real world.  I never EVER claimed to be perfect, & I never would claim such.  But I love my kids.  To assume I don't from this post alone is laughable.  I hope that you parent your children with more of an open mind than you respond to internet website post.  I hope when they make choices that disapoint you (& they will), you are less judgemental with them than you are here.

ready-or-not

Not that I plan to have the conversation with them, any time soon at least, but if it comes up then I will answer honestly, as I do all their questions.  If they are disappointed in me then we will work thru it because thats the type of family we are.  Do I think they are going to disown me & not love me or have anything to do with me because of it?  No.  You guys are acting like I said I pimp my kids out for a bag every day all day.  I get that you don't agree with it & you think I'm in the wrong for doing it in any amount ever while pregnant.  I can respect your opinions on it.  I'm not going to challenage your thoughts on the subject.  But the name calling & saying that I don't deserve to be a mother is a bit over the top & really just unnecessary.  

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Meery82

ready-or-not said:

I find it hard to believe that your a picture perfect mother either.  I was unaware that perfect parents exisited in the real world.  I never EVER claimed to be perfect, & I never would claim such.  But I love my kids.  To assume I don't from this post alone is laughable.  I hope that you parent your children with more of an open mind than you respond to internet website post.  I hope when they make choices that disapoint you (& they will), you are less judgemental with them than you are here.

I'm not a picture perfect mother. No one is. But I didn't do drugs while pregnant and I always try do what's best for my son, which is a hell of a lot more than you can say.

Tassie06

I'm not judging. I'm a pot activist.

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Tassie06

8-| never said I was using during pregnancy. And if I have to spell that out for you, I'm not!

tnd1218

I'm sorry but being a busy mom who needs to relax is not the greatest excuse for putting your unborn children in harm. My 12 year old is on a competitive dance team, she dances 7 days a week yes EVERY SINGLE DAY. I pick her up from school give her the meal I made for her she eats on the ride to the studio, dances for at least 5 hours a day. My 4 yr old plays baseball, I am team mom/coach. My husband works 24 hour shifts at a time. He is gone at times for 72 hours straight before we see him. I also work 12 hour shifts and manage an ER facility where I am on call 24/7. If we want to talk about busy mom we can. I see no valid excuse to harm a child who doesn't have a choice. I know this will not change someone's mind but I guess we can agree to disagree. Pot activist or not smoking while pregnant is harmful to your baby. As far as wine goes I LOVE WINE but do without while pregnant even if my doctor says a glass ever now and then is ok. I can do without while pregnant.

JennyOR30

Here's my 2 cents, take it for what it's worth.  You want to smoke pot, fine.  It's your health.  You want to smoke pot while pregnant: no bueno.  At the point you become pregnant, you're not only making choices for yourself, but also the sweet child growing inside of you.  At my hospital, they do a urine drug screen on every pregnant woman who comes into the hospital.  Even when I went to L&D a couple of weeks ago for elevated heart rate and being dehydrated, they did one on me.  If one thing comes back positive (unless the patient has a prescription for it) CPS is called.  In most states, pot is illegal and wine isn't.

NewMrsMacC

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Here's my 2 cents, take it for what it's worth.  You want to smoke pot, fine.  It's your health.  You want to smoke pot while pregnant: no bueno.  At the point you become pregnant, you're not only making choices for yourself, but also the sweet child growing inside of you.  At my hospital, they do a urine drug screen on every pregnant woman who comes into the hospital.  Even when I went to L&D a couple of weeks ago for elevated heart rate and being dehydrated, they did one on me.  If one thing comes back positive (unless the patient has a prescription for it) CPS is called.  In most states, pot is illegal and wine isn't.

This ^

... she better hope they don't drug test her, they WILL call CPS, you are 100% correct. I couldn't imagine testing positive for a drug, while pregnant.. God how embarrassing, everyone knowing that you would make such a selfish and terrible choice as a mother. How could she not realize smoking pot while pregnant is not something a civilized or responsible mother would do??? 

greeneyed_bride

I've got to agree with everyone who pointed out that there simply isn't enough research/data to show that it's safe during pregnancy. Personally, I know that if I smoked pot while pregnant, I would worry that any delays or problems my child might have were due to pot smoking. I have a friend who deals with anxiety issues and who smoked pot periodically while pregnant. Her two-year-old son doesn't talk at all. Literally no words whatsoever. And she is consumed with guilt that her pot-smoking might have been the reason. There's no way to know if that's the case, and there's probably a pretty good chance that that's not to blame, but why put yourself through that guilt and anxiety unnecessarily? 

ready-or-not

So here's the deal. I never said I smoke pot while pregnant to relax. I actually said the opposite. I don't smoke it while pregnant to relax. I smoke it ON OCCASSION to relieve the massive migraine headaches I always have at times during pregnancy. At times when the prescription drugs, caffeine, laying down in dark rooms still didn't help. You people have twisted it around to me being an all out stoner druggie mom. Ok I get it, you think it makes me an awful person who doesn't deserve the awesomely amazing kids I have. I'll tell you now, I could pass your drug screen today if I had to (& my job is also subject to randoms, so I could pass it most any other day, too), & I have most likely smoked way less pot while pregnant than you have drank caffeine or wine (since that's apparently ok). I still know I'm not going to change your opinions of me, & any other post I dare comment on one of you will be sure to bring this back up, but it is what it is. I'm nothing if not honest, & that's what I was when I started this post.

Mizoo

Is anyone else wondering where the other 3 (or is it 4?) of OP's other children are while she is getting stoned?? 

My thinking about it is: we don't know enough about the effect it has on a fetus.  And even if we did, like PPs have said unless you are growing it yourself you have NO idea what else you're smoking along with pot.  I used to smoke occasionally, and I fully support the legalization of it but I still can't fathom why people think it's okay to smoke anything while they are pregnant.

If your morals allow you to smoke some while pregnant - how much are you smoking when you're not pregnant??  And where are your children when you're blazed?  I hope you're not driving them around under the influence.

ready-or-not

Yea, my morals allow me to smoke some while pregnant. Think we've established that lol when I do, it's not much. If you have ever smoked pot then you know a little goes a long way when your not a regular smoker. & no, my children are no where around when I do it. I would say 97% of the time I can control the headaches & play thru the pain. I've had migraines since I was in my teens, so I'm no stranger to them, or how to remedy them, both with & without the use of pot.

Mizoo

Just to make sure I understand you correctly, you don't smoke in front of your children.  You don't care for your children while you're high.  You don't want your children to know you smoke.

Yes?

Then WHY would it be okay to do while pregnant? 

I have had the occasional glass of wine during this pregnancy, and once my child is here I will occasionally have a glass of wine in front of them, I will care for my child under the occasional influence of one glass of wine, and I certainly wouldn't care if my child knows I drink an occasional glass of wine (obviously, since I will not avoid indulging when they are around.)

I guess I just don't understand why you don't see the difference between having a glass of wine during pregnancy and having a toke off the old steam roller.  Also, you're right a little does go a long way!  Which makes it even WORSE to do in my mind.  When I used to smoke, I would be really high off of one hit.  I don't even get a buzz off of one glass of wine... If one hit is affecting you enough to get you high, what makes you think it's not getting your baby high too?

I'll end this by reminding you that I 100% support legalization of marijuana, but I would never support a pregnant woman choosing to smoke it.  Same goes for cigarettes. And crack.  Can't forget about crack!

ready-or-not

Mizoo said:

I guess I just don't understand why you don't see the difference between having a glass of wine during pregnancy and having a toke off the old steam roller.  Also, you're right a little does go a long way!  Which makes it even WORSE to do in my mind.  When I used to smoke, I would be really high off of one hit.  I don't even get a buzz off of one glass of wine... If one hit is affecting you enough to get you high, what makes you think it's not getting your baby high too?

Pot affects people differently.  I don't get really high off 1 hit.  But it does knock the edge off the migrine.  Can we all agree that if mom's blood pressure suddently spikes really high, as is common during migrines, that it is dangerous for the baby growing inside her?  Your next reponse will be when that happens why don't I go to the hospital....Because I live in the country, I am a solid 30+ minutes from the closest hospital, & add to that another 30+ minutes at the ER before you are seen & treated (which "treated" at the hospital for super high BP on a pregnant woman equals laying in the bed hooked up to monitors until it goes down.  At least that has been my experience.).  So now my unborn child has gone an hour under the stress of mom's near stroke level blood pressure.  OR, I take 5 mintues & 1-2 hits & in less than 30 minutes am back in the land of the living with a managable headache & blood pressure.  I don't have blood pressure problems.  I normally am in really good health & normal BP, so its not something that I am on medicaion for.

Mizoo

ready-or-not said

Pot affects people differently.  I don't get really high off 1 hit.  But it does knock the edge off the migrine.  Can we all agree that if mom's blood pressure suddently spikes really high, as is common during migrines, that it is dangerous for the baby growing inside her?  Your next reponse will be when that happens why don't I go to the hospital....Because I live in the country, I am a solid 30+ minutes from the closest hospital, & add to that another 30+ minutes at the ER before you are seen & treated (which "treated" at the hospital for super high BP on a pregnant woman equals laying in the bed hooked up to monitors until it goes down.  At least that has been my experience.).  So now my unborn child has gone an hour under the stress of mom's near stroke level blood pressure.  OR, I take 5 mintues & 1-2 hits & in less than 30 minutes am back in the land of the living with a managable headache & blood pressure.  I don't have blood pressure problems.  I normally am in really good health & normal BP, so its not something that I am on medicaion for.

Except that pot does not lower your blood pressure after 1-2 hits.  It raises it.  The only thing I could find that supports marijuana lowering blood pressure is in those who are chronic heavy users, and that's over time that it drops - but immediately after smoking it raises your BP and your heart rate.  So unless you're a chronic, heavy user (which you claim not to be) you're not helping your BP.

ready-or-not

Yea well maybe so, I hadn't done the research on the BP thing.  So it might not be helping the BP but its def helping the migrine, which is what was intended by doing it in the first place.

Meery82

ready-or-not said:

Mizoo said:

I guess I just don't understand why you don't see the difference between having a glass of wine during pregnancy and having a toke off the old steam roller.  Also, you're right a little does go a long way!  Which makes it even WORSE to do in my mind.  When I used to smoke, I would be really high off of one hit.  I don't even get a buzz off of one glass of wine... If one hit is affecting you enough to get you high, what makes you think it's not getting your baby high too?

Pot affects people differently.  I don't get really high off 1 hit.  But it does knock the edge off the migrine.  Can we all agree that if mom's blood pressure suddently spikes really high, as is common during migrines, that it is dangerous for the baby growing inside her?  Your next reponse will be when that happens why don't I go to the hospital....Because I live in the country, I am a solid 30+ minutes from the closest hospital, & add to that another 30+ minutes at the ER before you are seen & treated (which "treated" at the hospital for super high BP on a pregnant woman equals laying in the bed hooked up to monitors until it goes down.  At least that has been my experience.).  So now my unborn child has gone an hour under the stress of mom's near stroke level blood pressure.  OR, I take 5 mintues & 1-2 hits & in less than 30 minutes am back in the land of the living with a managable headache & blood pressure.  I don't have blood pressure problems.  I normally am in really good health & normal BP, so its not something that I am on medicaion for.

So now you are concerned about the baby being affected by your blood pressure and you think pot is going to fix that? I just can't comprehend this level of stupidity. My mind: officially blown. :-O

KellyBelly5569

Wow I think you are so brave posting this considering some of the replies I've read and just the judgement on this topic in general. I don't judge and frankly I dont care what anyone has to say about what I'm about to put. But I too have smoked pot while pregnant. Now to those reading this, before you reply with a "you're such a horrible mother" post just know I could really care less what you think. My mom smoked with my brother and I when she was pregnant with us. There is nothing wrong with us. Every pregnancy is different yes I know. For me, I deal with issues that require medication that I can not take while pregnant. My stress level is so high at times so yes I do smoke at these times.

For anyone who is going to reply with a negative response, just fore warning I'm not reading whatever you put. What I do is my business and lets just keep it at that.

KellyBelly5569

ready-or-not said:

 

***********quote fail*********** Just because you've been a member since '04 doesn't void out the fact that you're being a troll.... and just so we're clear, you openly admitted to starting this thread out of boredom. Which we can all interpret as "I was bored so I thought I'd start some shit up". Go crawl back under your bridge.

I openly admitted to starting this DISCUSSION out of boredom.  If I wanted to start shit, I would have said something alone the lines of "i'm right & y'all are stupid".  Saying "go crawl back under your bridge" is just a super silly statement.  You know that, right?

Them stressing about your post is harming their baby more. Dont worry about what they say. People are going to talk. Who cares. There are so many doctors and medical professionals that are not against smoking weed while pregnant. All you have to do is research, interview, etc. Who cares what these people are saying.

Meery82

KellyBelly5569 said:

Wow I think you are so brave posting this considering some of the replies I've read and just the judgement on this topic in general. I don't judge and frankly I dont care what anyone has to say about what I'm about to put. But I too have smoked pot while pregnant. Now to those reading this, before you reply with a "you're such a horrible mother" post just know I could really care less what you think. My mom smoked with my brother and I when she was pregnant with us. There is nothing wrong with us. Every pregnancy is different yes I know. For me, I deal with issues that require medication that I can not take while pregnant. My stress level is so high at times so yes I do smoke at these times.

For anyone who is going to reply with a negative response, just fore warning I'm not reading whatever you put. What I do is my business and lets just keep it at that.

You are your mom are both fucking idiots. Congratulations.

ready-or-not

KellyBelly5569 said:

Well Jesus, thank you.  I knew I couldn't be the only heathen out there LOL

 

Darbie914 said:

Geez at the lanuague Darbie914, do you kiss your kids with that mouth??  Now would you use that kind of lanuage in front of your kids?  You they say by the 2nd trimester babies can hear their mother speak....would your kids be disappointed in you for using such foul language during a simple discussion?<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

ready-or-not

YOU ALL turned it into a shit show.  Not me.  Go back & read every one of my replys.  You all started throwing the cuss words & name calling. 

ready-or-not

LOL ok

Meery82

ready-or-not said:

KellyBelly5569 said:

Well Jesus, thank you.  I knew I couldn't be the only heathen out there LOL

 

Darbie914 said:

Geez at the lanuague Darbie914, do you kiss your kids with that mouth??  Now would you use that kind of lanuage in front of your kids?  You they say by the 2nd trimester babies can hear their mother speak....would your kids be disappointed in you for using such foul language during a simple discussion?<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

LOL. No. You have no leg to stand on here. Nice try. )

ready-or-not

I was being sarcastic, since she is so quick to judge me & yet she keeps throwing such foul lanuague into the mix.  Seems kinda childish. 

But anywho, the above poster was right, this has turned into quite the shit storm.  I was looking for a discussion because I was bored, I went into it knowing that MOST of you would judge me, bc I know how this site rolls.  Now I have become bored with this discussion soooooo we can end it on a high note (no pun intended).  Good luck with your pregnancies, & your new babies.  They really are a precious gift.  And remember ladies, judge not lest ye be judged....(ohhhhh she quotes the bible too?!?  #rebelwithoutacause)

PrimRoseMama

Am I the only one that doesn't understand why the OP has her twinkies in such a twist? I think it's perfectly legit & rational to question he parenting abilities if she is toking it up.

The reason really doesn't matter, either @ready-or-not . The bottom line is that you are ingesting an illegal substance & I would be hesitant to be admitting it on a public message board.

Truthfully, no one is as anonymous as they believe on here. All it takes is one pissed off, BSC lurker (not even someone flaming you actively) to do some digging. They could figure out where you are & report you to CPS. I'm not advocating doing that by the way. I think that is insane, but I have seen such things come to a head on TB.

Like I told another poster on first trimester-- it's been my experience that usually it's the lurkers that somehow get it in their head to hate you that you have to worry about.

I'm also not sure why you are getting defensive. Logically you must know that when you admit to smoking the ganja on the regular that the domino effect of flaming will eventually lead to all that has gone on.

If you didn't suspect that would happen then lay off the wacky tabacky, it's frying your brain yo.

PrimRoseMama

Also I call bullshit on every single person that pipes up with "I don't judge". Everyone judges. Everyone lies. Everyone is human.

Judging is a part of life.

ready-or-not

@primrosemama: never got defensive over the subject at hand. People asked questions, I answered them, thus, we had a discussion. I got defensive at the cussing & name calling. Also, I never admitted to "smoking the ganja on the regular". Not so sure where you got that from.

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@primrosemama: never got defensive over the subject at hand. People asked questions, I answered them, thus, we had a discussion. I got defensive at the cussing & name calling. Also, I never admitted to "smoking the ganja on the regular". Not so sure where you got that from.

You've smoked it through out your pregnancy & in order to even make this worth mentioning I'm betting it was more than a handful of times. I don't expect you to remember though, you can't even remember how many kids you have FFS.

The way you talk about it makes it appear like a regular occurrence. The fact that you are doing it at all makes you irresponsible.

So yeah, there's that.

chase16

Cocoasushi said:

I'm not one to judge, all I know is that my niece was born to a mother than smoked pot on a regular basis almost 6 years ago, and she's been diagnosed with ADHD and a defiance disorder, although I can't remember te name. Not saying they're definitely related, but ya never know.

oooo please don't be the one to go down this path. That's how all that BS with vaccines and autism happened, remember? Same with unless you have conducted studies or seen studies that thoroughly prove a link between pot and ADHD, don't invent a link.. That's how all the crazies get worked up.

As far as OP, wine yes, pot no. As others have said, there are studies that prove light drinking (less than 6 glasses of wine per week, no more than 1 glass per day) is not harmful to the baby. There are no studies proving marijuana's safety.

Niasiagraham

One thing i learned in life... FUCK PEOPLE WHO JUDGE YOU WHO THE HELL ARE THEY??? Everybody makes their own choices ive smoked while pregnant before and NOTHING is wrong with my son! But when i drank a glass of wine my stomach hurt & so did my head ! How the hell is it okay to drink wine that contains alcohol and gets u "tipsy" but cant smoke pot witch calms / relaxes you ?! Oh yea use the excuse that u only have "one glass of wine a day" that doesnt justify the fact that you do it ! Just like i dont understand how alcohol is legal n causes some ppl to get angry , hallucinate , & sloppy but weed is illegal n it makes people happy high & hungry! This world is ass backwards!!!

Meery82

Niasiagraham said:

One thing i learned in life... FUCK PEOPLE WHO JUDGE YOU WHO THE HELL ARE THEY??? Everybody makes their own choices ive smoked while pregnant before and NOTHING is wrong with my son! But when i drank a glass of wine my stomach hurt & so did my head ! How the hell is it okay to drink wine that contains alcohol and gets u "tipsy" but cant smoke pot witch calms / relaxes you ?! Oh yea use the excuse that u only have "one glass of wine a day" that doesnt justify the fact that you do it ! Just like i dont understand how alcohol is legal n causes some ppl to get angry , hallucinate , & sloppy but weed is illegal n it makes people happy high & hungry! This world is ass backwards!!!

Fabulous. Another fucking moron. I swear, people should need to obtain a license to procreate.

ready-or-not

OP got exactly what she wanted and keeps dragging it on because she loooooves the attention.

I did get exactly what I wanted, a discussion. Not sure how I'm dragging it out tho, why don't you explain that one.

ready-or-not

@PrimRoseMama:

"You've smoked it through out your pregnancy & in order to even make this worth mentioning I'm betting it was more than a handful of times"

Soooooo now your just making things up to keep the conversation rolling? & yet I'm the one dragging this out?

tnd1218

Niasiagraham said:

One thing i learned in life... FUCK PEOPLE WHO JUDGE YOU WHO THE HELL ARE THEY??? Everybody makes their own choices ive smoked while pregnant before and NOTHING is wrong with my son! But when i drank a glass of wine my stomach hurt & so did my head ! How the hell is it okay to drink wine that contains alcohol and gets u "tipsy" but cant smoke pot witch calms / relaxes you ?! Oh yea use the excuse that u only have "one glass of wine a day" that doesnt justify the fact that you do it ! Just like i dont understand how alcohol is legal n causes some ppl to get angry , hallucinate , & sloppy but weed is illegal n it makes people happy high & hungry! This world is ass backwards!!!

Can someone insert a WTF gif please?! You cannot be serious!