Ok with wine, so what about pot?

KellyBelly5569

Meery82 said:

Oh, you're an FNP? That's funny.  Your Facebook says you started pursuing a BScN in 2012, and your school's website doesn't appear to have an NP track program.

Yeah.... I'm a creep.  Took me all of 5 minutes to find you.  Good thing is I'm not a psycho stalker, but you might want to consider who else might be reading this and might actually be not-so-right in the head.

You were not hard to find.

LOL. That shut her ass up real quick.

Meery82

WTF. I think her burned out brain is shorting out.

WashingtonQueen

NewMrsMacC said:

Link to her FB! I must see this piece of pot smoking trash! 

No.

WashingtonQueen

arlingirl

ready-or-not said:

My children are 12, 6, 2 & currently 18 week pregnant.  Obviously it could take a while to show up any ill side effects, but we are on a good roll so far ;o)  & again, I am not talking about getting all out stoned every day of the week either.  I know it isn't going to change your opinion & you are already judging me, but I have killer migranes & it helps.  Tylenol & Coke also help, hense the "on occassion"

I have killer migraines. I go to a specialist. He's never prescribed pot, Tylenol, or coke. Go see a doctor. Jesus.

CaitEmilyThompson

ready-or-not said:

Ok so I freely admit I am just starting this discussion because I'm bored, but I was just reading thru the post & came across the wine one from a few days ago....So many of you are ok with 1-several glasses of wine per day/week, what are your feelings on smoking pot, for the same recreational relaxing use?  Not getting all out stoned, but a couple hits here & there, or puffs from a pipe, whatever...?  

I'll be honest, I've done it, on occassion, with all of my pregnancies & had beautiful healthy babies with no obvious side effects.  I wouldn't judge you for your 1+ glasses of wine, on occassion...would you judge me? 

My OB actually recommended using pot because I lost 20 lbs due to severe morning sickness and my OB said its becoming more and more common. Think of what too much alcohol does to a fully grown adult...it can kill them. Can pot? Nope! Our society needs to advance culturally I feel a sense of ignorance increasing its sad

brennan2721

I do not do either. especially while pregnant... I wouldn't judge people who did... But really it's only 9 months ifbu have to have that smoke or wine.. Maybe you should have waited to get pregnant. Just my opinion.

ready-or-not

"Darbie914":
And for everyone agreeing with OP that using it while pregnant is safe, no one has yet to provide one shred of medical evidence that backs up their argument.

I never said it was medically proven to be safe, so don't be throwing me in with those that have. While I support their arguments that it is not as awful as most of you make it out to be, they have taken a totally different route than the original discussion. I said IMO it works for me. Its a home grown (but not in my home) alternative for ME. I don't advocate it's use in pregnancy every day all day just cause you like getting high.

MeganM0710

ready-or-not said:

Again, I'm not sure what about this makes you think its MUD, but to clear some things up:  I don't grow it myself, but it does come from a home grown trusted source.  I don't NEED it, as some have suggested.  I USE it, on occassion, more for migraines than relaxing during pregnancy.  I have 3 kids & work full time. We are always doing sports & gymnastics & school projects & homework & baths & dinner...ANY methoid of relaxing is really not in the cards for me most days!  I can agree that it doesn't have the FDA regulations that wine has, but I don't drink wine.  Or anything else 99% of the time.  I also don't smoke cigarettes, never have.  Not that I expect this information to change your judgement of me.  The # of kids/pregnancies, yea that was pretty stupid of me, I agree with that too.  On any other post you would laugh it off as "pregnancy brain", but since I have openly admited to smoking pot you will no doubt link it to that no matter what I say.

You say you use this for migraines? But Tylenol and a coke also work for you...if that's the case then those are NOT migraines. As a migraine sufferer for years (an even worse during pregnancy) Tylenol doesn't even touch me when I have a migraine. And that goes for 98% of the migraine sufferers I know. While I'm not anti pot outside of pregnancy, pot during just seems utterly stupid. If you truly have migraines there are many things that can be done to prevent/resolve them.

And while a prescription (even while pregnant) given to you from your ob isn't "natural" at least that has been tested and tested to prove safety during pregnancy. Take that instead

ready-or-not

@megamm0710: quote fail dear. I said I use it at times when Tylenol & coke don't work, IE: a true migraine. Read all my replies before you pick & choose which one to quote.

@darbie914: I never disagreed with your point that it hasn't been proven medically safe. But I do a lot of things in life without doing my research on it, both medical & otherwise. I'm more a free spirit, go with that works kinda gal.

KellyBelly5569

Seriously? You're still at it? And you're getting all CSI on me? Dam! I'd like to see who you found on FB that you "think" is me. But honestly this has gotten real sad. Is this all you guys do? Do you not have a life? A husband or kids to spend your time with or is it just this site you have? I leave for what 8 hours and I see the same people on here talking the same ol shit. Well good news it when those poor babies of yours are born you will actually have something to do. We had a good thing going, but I'm tired of dealing with idiots. Ta-Ta!

KellyBelly5569

WashingtonQueen said:

Cute! did you learn that from your kids?

KellyBelly5569

Darbie914 said:

^^ says the person who keeps coming back.

Also, I'm not pregnant.  Kthanks.

Hey what can I say, stupid people are pretty entertaining haha!

KellyBelly5569

CaitEmilyThompson said:

ready-or-not said:

Ok so I freely admit I am just starting this discussion because I'm bored, but I was just reading thru the post & came across the wine one from a few days ago....So many of you are ok with 1-several glasses of wine per day/week, what are your feelings on smoking pot, for the same recreational relaxing use?  Not getting all out stoned, but a couple hits here & there, or puffs from a pipe, whatever...?  

I'll be honest, I've done it, on occassion, with all of my pregnancies & had beautiful healthy babies with no obvious side effects.  I wouldn't judge you for your 1+ glasses of wine, on occassion...would you judge me? 

My OB actually recommended using pot because I lost 20 lbs due to severe morning sickness and my OB said its becoming more and more common. Think of what too much alcohol does to a fully grown adult...it can kill them. Can pot? Nope! Our society needs to advance culturally I feel a sense of ignorance increasing its sad

My aunt's doctor said the same thing, along with many other of my relatives and friends. And yea it is becoming more common. You have a good doctor!

Meery82

CaitEmilyThompson said:

ready-or-not said:

Ok so I freely admit I am just starting this discussion because I'm bored, but I was just reading thru the post & came across the wine one from a few days ago....So many of you are ok with 1-several glasses of wine per day/week, what are your feelings on smoking pot, for the same recreational relaxing use?  Not getting all out stoned, but a couple hits here & there, or puffs from a pipe, whatever...?  

I'll be honest, I've done it, on occassion, with all of my pregnancies & had beautiful healthy babies with no obvious side effects.  I wouldn't judge you for your 1+ glasses of wine, on occassion...would you judge me? 

My OB actually recommended using pot because I lost 20 lbs due to severe morning sickness and my OB said its becoming more and more common. Think of what too much alcohol does to a fully grown adult...it can kill them. Can pot? Nope! Our society needs to advance culturally I feel a sense of ignorance increasing its sad

STFU. Your OB never said that. Get real.

PrimRoseMama

KellyBelly5569 said:

Seriously? You're still at it? Well good news it when those poor babies of yours are born you will actually have something to do. We had a good thing going, but I'm tired of dealing with idiots. Ta-Ta!

Both my kids are outside of my uterus. Again, that pot is seriously affecting your reading comprehension. You are like the poster child for " don't do drugs, kids!"

futurehunterbaby

Or high

Meery82

@ktlucas, quit being a fucking psycho stalker and following me around to flag my posts. I know you did the same thing to @nicb13. That's fucking creepy.

ready-or-not

I mean WOW. This crazy lol guess I should have listened to that 1st poster who said this subject has played out already!

meggyski

I just finished reading through all of this thread, and I what amazes me the most is that in 8 pages of name calling and character bashing on both sides of this "discussion," not a single person has bothered to post any links on any actual research.  I spent about 5 minutes googling and found this recent article from a local parenting website:  https://www.seattleschild.com/article/great-ganja-debate .  I think it frames the issues nicely and illustrates that there's a great need for more study and research, because more and more women are indeed turning to marijuana to treat morning sickness and migranes while pregnant.  

I am by no means an expert on this topic, and I'm not a pot smoker, but it's obvious to me that marijuana, like any other drug, has benefits and risks.  As it's being used more widely for medical applications and also becoming more acceptable recreationally (especially in my state where it is legal),  the logical approach would be for more study of the risks and possible benefits while pregnant. 

I want to be clear that I'm not taking a side in this thread.  I think the OP has been lazy in not citing any facts or studies to further the discussion, and her justification about pot being better for the baby than her stress is weak. On the other hand, posters rushing to label OP an "awful mother" are being ridiculous. There seems to be a lot more interest in trading insults and judgement than in actual discussion of this topic, which is too bad because I think it is a conversation that will become more important and relevant as more states legalize pot. 

Meery82

meggyski said:

I just finished reading through all of this thread, and I what amazes me the most is that in 8 pages of name calling and character bashing on both sides of this "discussion," not a single person has bothered to post any links on any actual research.  I spent about 5 minutes googling and found this recent article from a local parenting website:  https://www.seattleschild.com/article/great-ganja-debate .  I think it frames the issues nicely and illustrates that there's a great need for more study and research, because more and more women are indeed turning to marijuana to treat morning sickness and migranes while pregnant.  

I am by no means an expert on this topic, and I'm not a pot smoker, but it's obvious to me that marijuana, like any other drug, has benefits and risks.  As it's being used more widely for medical applications and also becoming more acceptable recreationally (especially in my state where it is legal),  the logical approach would be for more study of the risks and possible benefits while pregnant. 

I want to be clear that I'm not taking a side in this thread.  I think the OP has been lazy in not citing any facts or studies to further the discussion, and her justification about pot being better for the baby than her stress is weak. On the other hand, posters rushing to label OP an "awful mother" are being ridiculous. There seems to be a lot more interest in trading insults and judgement than in actual discussion of this topic, which is too bad because I think it is a conversation that will become more important and relevant as more states legalize pot. 

Thank you, Captain Obvious. If you read the whole thread, you'll see that it was mentioned several times that there isn't any research because it would be an unethical study. 8-|

PrimRoseMama

Nicb13 said:

Meery82 said:

@ktlucas, quit being a fucking psycho stalker and following me around to flag my posts. I know you did the same thing to @nicb13. That's fucking creepy.

Not cool

Looks like KT has got a vendetta. Chill out @ktlucas you are just making more work for the mods. Also, false flagging will get you banned.

WashingtonQueen

KellyBelly5569 said:

WashingtonQueen said:

Cute! did you learn that from your kids?




Umm, what?

meggyski

Meery82 did you even click on the link I posted? It links to multiple studies on the topic.  There are actually many ethical ways to study the issue and it's been done in Europe and in other countries. The ethics are not the issue- the reason there's not much research in the US has more to do with the fact that it's illegal in most states.

ready-or-not

="meggyski": did you even click on the link I posted? It links to multiple studies on the topic. There are actually many ethical ways to study the issue and it's been done in Europe and in other countries. The ethics are not the issue- the reason there's not much research in the US has more to do with the fact that it's illegal in most states



What she said!! Lol

KellyBelly5569

Meery82 said:

meggyski said:

I just finished reading through all of this thread, and I what amazes me the most is that in 8 pages of name calling and character bashing on both sides of this "discussion," not a single person has bothered to post any links on any actual research.  I spent about 5 minutes googling and found this recent article from a local parenting website:  https://www.seattleschild.com/article/great-ganja-debate .  I think it frames the issues nicely and illustrates that there's a great need for more study and research, because more and more women are indeed turning to marijuana to treat morning sickness and migranes while pregnant.  

I am by no means an expert on this topic, and I'm not a pot smoker, but it's obvious to me that marijuana, like any other drug, has benefits and risks.  As it's being used more widely for medical applications and also becoming more acceptable recreationally (especially in my state where it is legal),  the logical approach would be for more study of the risks and possible benefits while pregnant. 

I want to be clear that I'm not taking a side in this thread.  I think the OP has been lazy in not citing any facts or studies to further the discussion, and her justification about pot being better for the baby than her stress is weak. On the other hand, posters rushing to label OP an "awful mother" are being ridiculous. There seems to be a lot more interest in trading insults and judgement than in actual discussion of this topic, which is too bad because I think it is a conversation that will become more important and relevant as more states legalize pot. 

Thank you, Captain Obvious. If you read the whole thread, you'll see that it was mentioned several times that there isn't any research because it would be an unethical study. 8-|

You are seriously the reason why pregnant woman have such a bad rep. Lay off of her. She's probably the only one on this whole thread who has said something logical. And has provided an article. Is that not what you and many others wanted? Some proof? Well there you go

Meery82

KellyBelly5569 said:

Meery82 said:

meggyski said:

I just finished reading through all of this thread, and I what amazes me the most is that in 8 pages of name calling and character bashing on both sides of this "discussion," not a single person has bothered to post any links on any actual research.  I spent about 5 minutes googling and found this recent article from a local parenting website:  https://www.seattleschild.com/article/great-ganja-debate .  I think it frames the issues nicely and illustrates that there's a great need for more study and research, because more and more women are indeed turning to marijuana to treat morning sickness and migranes while pregnant.  

I am by no means an expert on this topic, and I'm not a pot smoker, but it's obvious to me that marijuana, like any other drug, has benefits and risks.  As it's being used more widely for medical applications and also becoming more acceptable recreationally (especially in my state where it is legal),  the logical approach would be for more study of the risks and possible benefits while pregnant. 

I want to be clear that I'm not taking a side in this thread.  I think the OP has been lazy in not citing any facts or studies to further the discussion, and her justification about pot being better for the baby than her stress is weak. On the other hand, posters rushing to label OP an "awful mother" are being ridiculous. There seems to be a lot more interest in trading insults and judgement than in actual discussion of this topic, which is too bad because I think it is a conversation that will become more important and relevant as more states legalize pot. 

Thank you, Captain Obvious. If you read the whole thread, you'll see that it was mentioned several times that there isn't any research because it would be an unethical study. 8-|

You are seriously the reason why pregnant woman have such a bad rep. Lay off of her. She's probably the only one on this whole thread who has said something logical. And has provided an article. Is that not what you and many others wanted? Some proof? Well there you go


I'm not pregnant. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it. I'm sure you'd be glad to.

Meery82

meggyski said:

Meery82 did you even click on the link I posted? It links to multiple studies on the topic.  There are actually many ethical ways to study the issue and it's been done in Europe and in other countries. The ethics are not the issue- the reason there's not much research in the US has more to do with the fact that it's illegal in most states.

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No. I don't have time now. I'll read it later.

meggyski

@merry82 fair enough.  Here's a quick summary of the Jamaican study cited in the article, as well as the abstract for a 5 year follow up study: 

https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/93/2/254  

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1957518 

Here's another roundup which points to the negative effects of heavy use but also mentions that intermittent use has not been found to have the same effects: 

https://voices.yahoo.com/is-safe-marijuana-during-pregnancy-unbiased-6944068.html 

Basically, yes, more study needs to be done, but it's not accurate to say it hasn't been studied or that it's not ethical to study.  

KellyBelly5569

Meery82 said:

Meery82 said:

meggyski said:

I just finished reading through all of this thread, and I what amazes me the most is that in 8 pages of name calling and character bashing on both sides of this "discussion," not a single person has bothered to post any links on any actual research.  I spent about 5 minutes googling and found this recent article from a local parenting website:  https://www.seattleschild.com/article/great-ganja-debate .  I think it frames the issues nicely and illustrates that there's a great need for more study and research, because more and more women are indeed turning to marijuana to treat morning sickness and migranes while pregnant.  

I am by no means an expert on this topic, and I'm not a pot smoker, but it's obvious to me that marijuana, like any other drug, has benefits and risks.  As it's being used more widely for medical applications and also becoming more acceptable recreationally (especially in my state where it is legal),  the logical approach would be for more study of the risks and possible benefits while pregnant. 

I want to be clear that I'm not taking a side in this thread.  I think the OP has been lazy in not citing any facts or studies to further the discussion, and her justification about pot being better for the baby than her stress is weak. On the other hand, posters rushing to label OP an "awful mother" are being ridiculous. There seems to be a lot more interest in trading insults and judgement than in actual discussion of this topic, which is too bad because I think it is a conversation that will become more important and relevant as more states legalize pot. 

Thank you, Captain Obvious. If you read the whole thread, you'll see that it was mentioned several times that there isn't any research because it would be an unethical study. 8-|

You are seriously the reason why pregnant woman have such a bad rep. Lay off of her. She's probably the only one on this whole thread who has said something logical. And has provided an article. Is that not what you and many others wanted? Some proof? Well there you go

I'm not pregnant. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it. I'm sure you'd be glad to.

dam... that's even worse, at least then you would have an excuse. Wtf are you doing on a pregnancy site anyway!? That's just weird...

Meery82

I can post wherever I please. I'm not the only one around here who isn't pregnant. I've been around here since I was. Not every board on this site is for pregnancy. I'm not just some fly by halfwit spouting bullshit like yourself.

ETA: forgot to quote. Please see above post.

Truelove21

I didn't read all the responses here but I say live and let live. Weed has been known to help in certain cases right? At least its a naturally growing. Other drugs and stimulants are man made and usually hurt the body in the long run one way or another. I'm sure there are women in other countries that do things that we wouldn't while pregnant and turn out fine. Sometimes only you (not the doc) know whats best for your body. As for me, I wouldn't. But if it were something I was use to having and I knew how my body normally reacts to it then I might. Not everyone becomes addicted or mentally incompetant. And I read that it can be grown without certain harmful features. Like that story about the child who had daily sesures since birth and mom had tried every medical treatment with no good outcome until she was referred to a lab where weed was grown and some without the bad side effects and her problem was fixed as soon as she tried it. I think they named the plant charlottes web. Excuse my spelling please.

Truelove21

Well then these women should take care to investigate the product and use sound judgement and problem sloved. Right? You can easily educate yourself on the things you put into your body before you consume them. And you can easily learn how to grow safe plants too. Just do the research.

ready-or-not

"Darbie914":

But not every pregnant woman who smokes pot grows it herself so how do you know that the weed you are ingesting isn't laced with other things?


So my "supply" is home grown from a trusted source. Does this make me less of a shitty mother, in your eyes?

ready-or-not

I do know, & have seen it in process.

& sorry, have been called a shitty parent by so many of you I can't keep straight who said what anymore

DreamsBride411

The thread that never ends!

Stop over analyzing this - it is flat out wrong to smoke weed while you're pregnant.

Debate over.
(How was this even debatable?!)

Meery82

DreamsBride411 said:

The thread that never ends! Stop over analyzing this - it is flat out wrong to smoke weed while you're pregnant. Debate over. (How was this even debatable?!)

JFC, no kidding! This comment is all we needed here. Let's end it.

LittIePenguin

This is definitely the wrong forum to post something like this and not be judged. 95% of the women on here all they do is judge. 

KellyBelly5569

Meery82 said:

I can post wherever I please. I'm not the only one around here who isn't pregnant. I've been around here since I was. Not every board on this site is for pregnancy. I'm not just some fly by halfwit spouting bullshit like yourself.

ETA: forgot to quote. Please see above post.

AKA you have no life... how's that bull shit for you hahahaha

Meery82

KellyBelly5569 said:

Meery82 said:

I can post wherever I please. I'm not the only one around here who isn't pregnant. I've been around here since I was. Not every board on this site is for pregnancy. I'm not just some fly by halfwit spouting bullshit like yourself.

ETA: forgot to quote. Please see above post.

AKA you have no life... how's that bull shit for you hahahaha

Yup, it's bullshit all right. Whatever you have to tell your pitiful self to make you feel better. L-)