@chyvie I'm the same. I hate needles that go into me (I don't mind my tattoos). I know that's part of the reason I don't get some of the ones I've avoided.
I did get the Hep A shot (round 1) and got really sick after so I didn't go back for the 2nd. I'm not against vaxx at all, and my kid will have the Hep A vax. However it clearly didn't agree with me.
Sooo... ummm... FFFC? I got behind on reading this, saw there were 50+ comments since I last read it, and thought a flame war had broken out on our board.
To those who gave me a shout out about drive-bys, thanks for the love.
To those who are afraid of needles, I volunteer as tribute for all your needle sticks.
To @kiwi2628 - I’m trying to decide if the rabies booster comment was a joke or serious. I’m not sure if I actually want to know...
I’m going to have to carve out some time to go read that UO thread now...
Oh, the other thought about board organization and feeling connected-
I didn’t put this in the other discussion because it might have sounded really rude, but...
I’m genuinely sad that some of the people, especially those who have been on the board since the beginning, don’t feel connected. I don’t know what to do about it, but also don’t really think there is anything to do about it. Sometimes people just don’t work out in certain groups, and it may be that the group that formed here just isn’t the right group for those people who don’t feel as much part of the group.
Also, I thought the weekly/monthly thread format was kind of hokey when I joined the board, but whatever, that is the way people wanted it. I actually really, really like it now. Sure, some stuff gets repeated, but I like that rather than five people posting a thread about their crazy lunch, we all pile into the same conversation.
I’m super glad we have such a great group, and still find opportunities for popcorn.
I was thinking about the not feeling connected thing as the day goes on... you know what makes a difference for me? I don’t know any of your names or what any of you really look like. Not that that’s a prerequisite for getting to know people online, per se, but just something that was a game changer for connecting with my first bump group. Once we moved to Facebook I could see everyone’s face and name, and that helped me connect everyone’s story to an actual person. Plus, on this stupid app on the phone, I can barely see anyone’s avatar! Haha. So it’s all very anonymous for me still, but I wouldn’t necessarily feel sad over it, because I’m not - I don’t feel left out or anything. It’s just whatever. I’m still coming around!
Late to the party as always (Guess that's what I get for having an almost 2yo who goes non stop! Lol) Those talking about Tdap is usually given around 28 weeks (I had to check my pregnancy "schedule" from the OB to make sure I was right). I was told you should have it with every single pregnancy regardless of time between boosters, because of the added immunity for baby. And that even though my 2 will barely be 2yrs apart, they still really encourage it (especially being fall/winter babies). But I have heard some people say their OB won't push the issue, if it's been under 2 years since your last birth.
It did take me awhile to feel like I was connecting , and it's still just really building to feel connected. It is a hard thing to do, but I think just adding anything you can, where ever you can, helps. Even if it feels pointless or dumb, can help get you and others talking, and make you feel more part of the community.
I don't feel left out or disconnected, but I will say that not being at work where I could reply to things quicker has been difficult to keep up. I'm so busy during the day with staying at home. My work had lots of lulls where I could get in on the action lk
I haven’t finished reading all these responses but yes you need the tdap every time you’re pregnant. It protects your baby from pertussis until they’re old enough for their first Dtap. It sucks because I hate the tdap. It hurts and it always gives me a day of feeling flu-y.
I’m so glad someone asked about the tdap. My doctor hasn’t mentioned it yet and I just had it about a year ago so I wouldn’t have thought to ask. I will definitely have to ask at my next appointment.
I get the feeling disconnected only in the sense that I can't keep up between this terrible app and the web page being "okay". I feel like by the time I can respond I'm so far behind in the thread that I feel awkward jumping I'm or that my responses are so rushed they aren't as clear or detailed as I'd like them to be.
I was going to try to read the January thread but I'm still upset with my mom making anti vax comments last night (mind you all four of her kids are vaccinated?) that I just dont think I can read it right now.
I think I had my Tdap with DS when I left the hospital but I'm gonna bring it up at my next appointment because I'm really not sure.
I go through phases of feeling disconnected here. I think a lot of it has to do with what’s going on IRL. When I’m having a harder time, I feel less connected here and get self conscious about my posts, with thoughts about why didn’t anybody respond to that random thing I said and why did only 1 or 2 people love that post & did anybody even notice I didn’t post for 2-3 days. I know that’s all on me and has nothing to do with anybody on this BMB.
I’m with @SawyerRichardson on feeling like some of my posts are “know it all” posts. I try to be concious of that and not come off as know it all (and if I ever do, please point it out to me - I’d rather feel temporarily bad about that than wonder if people are silently thinking that).
I have a hard time trying to keep up too and when to jump in to post, I am usually too late and the group has already moved on to the next topic. I also find it hard that I am a Canadian and can’t relate to all the issues that come up. I try to jump in when I can but sometimes it is just easier to lurk and to hit the love button when I can.
I can't sit with anti-vaxxers. Maybe this belongs in UO or FFFC but I lose all respect for someone when they tell me they're anti-vax, and 9 times out of 10 I also start to question their intelligence.
This. Also, maybe she’s a nurse at one of those holistic doctors offices. I mean there are quack doctors that went to medical school, maybe there are quack nurses.
Also, chiming in on the connection bit. It’s so hard to keep up as a STM. Some weeks I’m so busy and I’m afraid when I chime in I might get the whole the hell are you response. But I do really like this board and the bump in general. I think we have nice balance here and I also like that it’s not super catty. Although I do enjoy some popcorn drama here and there.
Oh, and anti-vaxx, ugh! I didn’t read the thread everybody is referring to, but the anti-vaxx thing bothers me. I’m worried we’ll be exposed to a lot of them since we’re homeschooling and joined a co-op. Normally I tolerate them since we are all vaxxed (definitely don’t agree with their choices though), but new baby plus new co-op has me a bit nervous.
Last pregnancy I was offered Dtap after my twins were born. I was so drugged up I declined it because of my reaction to it last time. Last time I basically felt hungover for the next day or 2. When I asked the dr about that reaction, he told me that I could just call him if I ever got a deep cut to get it then. Between that and being drugged up I immediately said no when offered at the hospital and then regretted it the next day (but stupidly never asked for it). I am way overdue for it and will ask about getting it after delivery this time. At the risk of sounding anti-vaxx here, I avoid vaccines while pregnant because from my understanding, most haven’t actually been studied in pregnancy. They’ve been deemed safe, but without actual studies and with all the increased childhood issues, I personally feel better waiting until after delivery, especially since the flu vaccine is currently being studied for causing miscarriages in certain years that weren’t really too long ago. I fully support anybody that gets it during pregnancy and don’t personally know anybody that claims vaccine injury from getting it, but with my reaction to it last time, I feel better waiting until after delivery.
Their anti-vaxx 'discussion' made me wonder if we had some anti-vaxxers on here that we don't know about...
If we do, then I’m glad the discussion hasn’t been pursued. It is a no-win kind of argument, and, unlike circumcision, has repercussions far beyond the the nuclear family unit.
Although my offer to accept anyone else’s unwanted needle sticks still stands. If I could have one every time I went to see the doctor, I’d be a lot more punctual about my annual check-ups.
I will say that nobody in that January thread picked up on my favorite inconsistency - the poster who claimed to have never met anyone who has had the chicken pox, but later admitted to having had it herself..,,
Is there a vaccine for chicken pox now? I was just gonna find out who had chicken pox and send my kid their way to get exposure, does that make me a bad mom lol? Also I feel like most adults have had chicken pox so maybe it's just never brought up because it's so common? Would be more rare to see someone who hasn't had it I think...
@knottieamusements thanks! Is that a standard one with vaccine schedules, or is it mainly used if you don't manage to contract it naturally by a certain age?
I believe the chicken pox vaxx came out in the late 90s. I believe I had already had it by the time my Dr offered it to my mom. It is now part of the normal routine from what I understand. Looks like it's usually given at 1yr and is a 2 part series. Hep A is the same, it didn't come out until late 90s but i believe is also now standard.
@jemmerjams I’ve never had chicken pox, despite being sent to play with every kid in prek-3 who had it. Ended up getting the vaccine when I was 15, I think? Don’t know if that’s still the norm or not, though.
Hahaha @jemmerjams! My mom would call that controlled exposure; AKA: planning to take sick leave ahead of time, ”Oh, I fully expect to be off work next week. There’s about a 100% chance my kid is gonna have chicken pox.”
I ended up with chicken pox twice. I had it when I was a toddler, but apparently only got a few bumps and recovered pretty quickly. I was sitting in fifth grade at some laser light shows school was doing when I started feeling itchy and seeing spots all over. Someone said I looked like I was getting chicken pox. I said it couldn't be because I'd already had it. Wrong!
H has had shingles twice already and he's only 33, so that's going to be fun for him.
@jemmerjams It is standard and kids are required to have it to attend school (at least in NY). I debated getting it for my kids because chicken pox really wasn’t that bad for me or anybody I knew that had it when we were kids. My husband on the other hand had it really bad. He pushed for it, so we did it. I haven’t heard of a single kid we know getting chicken pox because everybody is vaccinated now, so we would have ended up getting the vax for them anyway.
@jemmerjams be careful of having your kids exposed to chickenpox if you’ve never had them. Adults who get chickenpox are much more likely than kids to get the significant side effects (things like pneumonia and encephalitis- which is brain swelling). We always had to stay away from my grandpa when we had chickenpox since he’d never had them. https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/chickenpox-varicella-vaccine-guidelines-for-adults
Interestingly enough, @jennybean80, I had chicken pox when I was a kiddo...but when I started working at a hospital in 2015, tested for not being immune to it! Had to get the varicella vaccinations and the nurse had the odacity to suggest that maybe my mom was “mistaken” and couldn’t remember correctly if I actually had them. I was so offended, like, YOU DON’T KNOW MY MOMMA! DON’T TALK ABOUT MY MOMMA!
@jemmerjams - to add to what @jennybean80 said, your might also look into getting the shingles vaccine for yourself. My understanding is that they are both the same virus, and, as several people have commented above, really sucks.
Yep. In order to get shingles, you have to have previously had chickenpox (varicella). The varicella virus then moves into your central nervous system, where it lays dormant. Then decades later it can reactivate and you develop shingles which is incredibly painful.
@jennybean80 Do you know why shingles vaccines aren’t recommended for younger adults that have had chicken pox? My SIL has shingles in her 30s, and MH’s aunt had them in her 50s. Are they just unlucky getting it so young or is shingles riskier for older adults so the vaccine is only recommended for them (& everybody else just has to suffer).
Disclaimer - I fully recognize that you work in L&D and may not know the answer to that.
@purplegoldfish2 from what I understand it’s a cost:benefit situation. The people most likely to have severe complications from shingles are those 60 and older, so while the vaccine is approved for age 50+ (and wouldn’t be harmful for younger people who’ve already had chickenpox) they are targeting the most vulnerable population. The nice thing about the chickenpox vaccine is that it will likely eliminate the chance of our kids ever having to deal with shingles.
@jennybean80@knottieamusements don't worry, both DH and I had chicken pox as kids I clearly remember sitting in an oatmeal bath being miserable. My grandma had shingles a few years ago, i don't think that was particularly fun for her.
@knottieamusements thanks for sharing the link to the vax schedule, good to know!
ETA: I'm not an anti-vaxxer lol! just wanted to make sure no one thought that haha
@jemmerjams - I totally didn’t think that! I was surprised when I found out about the Chicken Pox vaccine too! (Like- why? It is a childhood right of passage! But I guess not anymore...)
@knottieamusements I thought the same thing, which is why I debated giving that one despite not being anti-vax. I didn’t think chicken pox had high risks for kids, but the chance that it can prevent shingles when they’re older is apparently a reason to vaccinate when they’re young (instead of the CDC making it a vax given at say 10 or 12 for kids that never got it when they were younger). At least that is how our boys’ pediatrician explained it.
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I did get the Hep A shot (round 1) and got really sick after so I didn't go back for the 2nd. I'm not against vaxx at all, and my kid will have the Hep A vax. However it clearly didn't agree with me.
To those who gave me a shout out about drive-bys, thanks for the love.
To those who are afraid of needles, I volunteer as tribute for all your needle sticks.
To @kiwi2628 - I’m trying to decide if the rabies booster comment was a joke or serious. I’m not sure if I actually want to know...
I’m going to have to carve out some time to go read that UO thread now...
I didn’t put this in the other discussion because it might have sounded really rude, but...
I’m genuinely sad that some of the people, especially those who have been on the board since the beginning, don’t feel connected. I don’t know what to do about it, but also don’t really think there is anything to do about it. Sometimes people just don’t work out in certain groups, and it may be that the group that formed here just isn’t the right group for those people who don’t feel as much part of the group.
Also, I thought the weekly/monthly thread format was kind of hokey when I joined the board, but whatever, that is the way people wanted it. I actually really, really like it now. Sure, some stuff gets repeated, but I like that rather than five people posting a thread about their crazy lunch, we all pile into the same conversation.
I’m super glad we have such a great group, and still find opportunities for popcorn.
It did take me awhile to feel like I was connecting , and it's still just really building to feel connected. It is a hard thing to do, but I think just adding anything you can, where ever you can, helps. Even if it feels pointless or dumb, can help get you and others talking, and make you feel more part of the community.
I was going to try to read the January thread but I'm still upset with my mom making anti vax comments last night (mind you all four of her kids are vaccinated?) that I just dont think I can read it right now.
I think I had my Tdap with DS when I left the hospital but I'm gonna bring it up at my next appointment because I'm really not sure.
I’m with @SawyerRichardson on feeling like some of my posts are “know it all” posts. I try to be concious of that and not come off as know it all (and if I ever do, please point it out to me - I’d rather feel temporarily bad about that than wonder if people are silently thinking that).
This. Also, maybe she’s a nurse at one of those holistic doctors offices. I mean there are quack doctors that went to medical school, maybe there are quack nurses.
Last pregnancy I was offered Dtap after my twins were born. I was so drugged up I declined it because of my reaction to it last time. Last time I basically felt hungover for the next day or 2. When I asked the dr about that reaction, he told me that I could just call him if I ever got a deep cut to get it then. Between that and being drugged up I immediately said no when offered at the hospital and then regretted it the next day (but stupidly never asked for it). I am way overdue for it and will ask about getting it after delivery this time. At the risk of sounding anti-vaxx here, I avoid vaccines while pregnant because from my understanding, most haven’t actually been studied in pregnancy. They’ve been deemed safe, but without actual studies and with all the increased childhood issues, I personally feel better waiting until after delivery, especially since the flu vaccine is currently being studied for causing miscarriages in certain years that weren’t really too long ago. I fully support anybody that gets it during pregnancy and don’t personally know anybody that claims vaccine injury from getting it, but with my reaction to it last time, I feel better waiting until after delivery.
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Although my offer to accept anyone else’s unwanted needle sticks still stands. If I could have one every time I went to see the doctor, I’d be a lot more punctual about my annual check-ups.
call that controlled exposure; AKA: planning to take sick leave ahead of time, ”Oh, I fully expect to be off work next week. There’s about a 100% chance my kid is gonna have chicken pox.”
H has had shingles twice already and he's only 33, so that's going to be fun for him.
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedules/hcp/imz/child-adolescent.html
https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/chickenpox-varicella-vaccine-guidelines-for-adults
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/shingles/public/zostavax/index.html
Disclaimer - I fully recognize that you work in L&D and may not know the answer to that.
@knottieamusements thanks for sharing the link to the vax schedule, good to know!
ETA: I'm not an anti-vaxxer lol! just wanted to make sure no one thought that haha