July 2017 Moms

Subchorionic Hemorrhage (SCH) Support

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Re: Subchorionic Hemorrhage (SCH) Support

  • @yanchuss, excuse me for saying so, but your OB is making me so irrationally angry. You, of all
    people, should be seeing a specialist and the delay from your doctor just sounds like sheer laziness. Is there ANY way around this ridiculousness?!
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  • @yanchuss  I hope it is your hemorrhage getting smaller. 
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  • @yanchuss I'm sorry you had another scare today, but I'm glad you got to see an active baby.  I agree with @ktewart - I'm angry on your behalf that you haven't been able to get a referral.  
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  • @ktewart Right!? I've been fighting to see an OB since I started bleeding at 6 weeks. I don't know if it's normal to get an OB as soon as you're pregnant in the States, but I'm from Canada and it's "normal" to have to wait until 20 weeks to be referred to an OB. They make exceptions if you're considered high risk, but other than that everyone has to wait until 20 weeks and your family doctor sees you up until that point. Even my ultrasound tech at the hospital asked why I haven't been referred to an OB yet as I'm now a "frequent flyer" in the emerg. dept., but I've been begging for 6 weeks now and no one is budging. 
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  • @yanchuss, HOW IS BLEEDING SINCE 6 WEEKS NOT CONSIDERED HIGH RISK AT THIS POINT???

    Sorry, I know different health care systems work differently, and there are advantages and disadvantages to all the systems (Hell, I'm in the US, but since my husband is active duty, we're in a whole different system than the civilian world), but I would hope that common sense would still rule the day here. A healthy, active baby, but a mom who literally is in the ER every 3-4 days and literally bled through 6 pads in less than an hour isn't considered high risk?! That just makes me really, really angry on your behalf. They better hope that baby stays snug and healthy in there. There's a time for rules and there's a time for common sense and they seem to be confusing the two right now.
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  • @ktewart MY QUESTION EXACTLY!! The pregnancy nurse at my dr office is SUCH a sarcastic bitch every time I call, too. I went to the hospital yesterday for an ultrasound and saw the baby move, but called my family dr today to get my results for the hemorrhage (which I was told to do). She was sighing the whole time and was like "yes....I have your results...the baby is still kicking so I don't know why you're calling me again". I explained that although I know the baby is still alive, I WANT TO KNOW WHY I'M BLEEDING SO MUCH AND IF THE HEMORRHAGE IS BIGGER. She told me it got "a little bigger", wouldn't give me a size, and told me that there's nothing I can do, so to stop calling looking for answers they don't have. I'm trying really hard not to be petty or to call at every moment, BUT I'VE BEEN BLEEDING FOR A FU**ING WEEK AND THEY ONLY DID AN ULTRASOUND YESTERDAY, AND STILL WON'T TELL ME HOW BIG MY HEMORRHAGE IS. I also asked if the hemorrhage continues to grow, will it pose a risk to the baby, and her exact words were "I'm not a fortune teller, I can't see how big the hemorrhage will get." ...no shit, sherlock. I'm asking objectively.
    I'm going to lose it. I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks I'm not over-reacting. 


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  • @yanchuss This is actually insane.  I have no idea how Canadian healthcare works but I'm trying to think outside the box here. Could you get a referral from a doctor you've seen in the ER? Camp out in your doctor's office until they give you a referral? Call another doctor's office and beg them to see you once for a referral (I know you said there are waitlists but maybe if they just had to see you once)? Call your mayor/local news network/someone who might have some influence over this doctor?  These are probably mostly crazy ideas. I wish there was some way we could help. 
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  • @yanchuss I'm sorry you're going through all that!
    Gonna keep it in mind too every time I hear how people are running to Canada for "free healthcare." 
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  • @yanchuss - wow wow wow. What a C word of a nurse. 
  • @yanchuss I'm so angry for you. There's no excuse to behave like that especially with a terrifying health issue. I'm so sorry!
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  • @yanchuss I don't know the way it works in Canada,  but can you report the office the the medical board?  That is unprofessional behavior and no way for a doctor's office to act. 
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  • @yanchuss, I agree with all of the above. Truly, I'm incensed for you. In unprofessional, inappropriate, and exactly the reason that you should be seeing an OB and not your family doctor. Answers to exactly the questions you are asking, as well as being open to many calls from pregnant women, is precisely what an OB is trained to deal with. You are absolutely NOT overreacting, and you have a right to proper care. What you're getting? It's not at all appropriate.
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  • I was just talking with my husband about all my worries with my SCH. I'm having a really hard time getting connected with this pregnancy because I'm so scared of a loss.  He confessed to me that he doesn't think we'll have a successful pregnancy.  Now I'm even more stressed out.  We haven't told our other kids yet,  but my 5 year old figured it out.  She brought me her birthday hat shopkin and sang happy birthday to my belly.  She is so excited and I don't know how I'll tell her if I lose the baby. 
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  • @lamphele I have really similar concerns. I don't think there's going to be a good outcome for me in this pregnancy. I don't know if I have the psychological where withall to have a second trimester loss which is officially where we are as of today at 14 weeks. I honestly think the least likely scenario is I carry this baby to term. There is a much much more likely chance of losing this baby in the next 10 weeks and I'm really, really scared. 
    TTC: 1/2014 BFP: 9/24 EDD: 6/8/2015 Sorry for the poor man's siggy...ticker won't load regardless of how many tips I read.
  • @lamphele and @dancegurl1118, I'm so, so sorry both of you are feeling this way. It is SO scary, this condition. Pregnancy on its own can be terrifying and I remember with my son being so grateful when they induced me at 39 weeks because it meant they'd get him out of me sooner, one less week pregnant, and I'd be able to physically see him breathing and not have to rely on an ultrasound to tell me he was ok (my bignfear with him was an irrational terror of a cord injury).

    So if you combine the regular pregnancy fears with this added (and not unjustified) one, it can feel insurmountable. But I would start with, if you haven't already, asking that very direct question of your doctor, assuming you trust them and their opinion. I would also repeat to yourselves the mantra "Today, I am pregnant", and then remind yourselves that the human body is designed to perform miracles and the human condition is predisposed towards life. Both your babies are, inherently, before they're even born, coded to want to survive and they will do everything they can to get earthside to you safely. They need that same determination from you. Don't give up on them yet, even though it is so, so scary, what you're dealing with.

    If it helps, the magic number for me, with my son, was 22-23 weeks. That is the edge of medical viability. Every day past that was a day closer to a baby who didn't need help out here, but it meant he could survive with help if he came early. That countdown was easier for me than the full 40.
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  • dancegurl1118dancegurl1118 member
    edited January 2017
    I'm so happy there's been no updates in a few days.

    had a scan today to measure the size. It actually terrified me more because it was so big. They didn't measure it last week so there was no quantifiable way to see if it's grown but it's definitely...."substantial" as the tech said to me with wide eyes. 

    My OB thankfully called me after to talk me off a ledge. All the doctors I talk to keep saying...we HAVE had people with this size SCH have a good outcome. -- which is the nice way of saying it doesn't usually end well. 

    ugh. It was 6cm x 4cm x 2cm. Almost as big as my uterus. 

    ETA: that is NOT almost as big as my uterus I was thinking inches. Just getting carried away over here  :D
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  • My OB never have me the dimensions of mine,  she just said 8 cm. As of last week it was down to 7cm.
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  • I actually have never received a quantifiable size for mine other than "very small" and the doctors seem very unconcerned about it. I'm hoping that means it's less of a concern. I'm still spotting brown when I wipe, and that comes and goes, but it was definitely still there when I went in for the amniotic fluid scare, so I'm honestly not sure what to think about it. I'm honestly just trying to still take it really easy, and I've been more focused and anxious about the level of "wetness" I've had lately, since there still seems to be some question about what caused the gush of fluid the other day. Part of me wonders if the two are connected, but I honestly don't know. I'll be following up with the doctor on the 24th.

    @dancegurl1118, did the doctor happen to mention where in your uterus the hemorrhage is located?
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  • @ktewart it's posteriorly the whole way down on my uterus to my cervix. They said it isn't touching my placenta so that's hopeful right now. I need to be more positive I think. I'm scared to be positive. 
    TTC: 1/2014 BFP: 9/24 EDD: 6/8/2015 Sorry for the poor man's siggy...ticker won't load regardless of how many tips I read.
  • @dancegurl1118 I'm so sorry this is so stressful!! I just did some literature review on sch and outcomes and it sounds like there is controversy on how much effect / adverse outcomes it is associated with - in some studies there was no significant difference in outcomes between women with and without sch. Same for the size, in some studies they found size mattered but in others it didn't... Not sure if that's helpful or just making things worse, but I know it would help me to know that...definitely do your best to stay optimistic! I'm thinking of you!

    PS: if last week's ultrasound images are stored at the office/ hospital where you had it, they should be able to go back and measure it on those. 
  • Well this morning I woke up to a gush of blood. I had been told my SCH was gone two weeks ago so I was shocked. The dr on call had me come in for an ultrasound right away and both babies looked great. There is a new bleed in with baby B by the placenta. I thought I was in the clear
  • I was just going to reply to the last few posts when I saw yours @ebennett1007 :( I'm so sorry to hear. This damn condition makes it next to impossible to enjoy pregnancy, thanks to the crippling fear. Hopefully it will be nothing again! I'm so happy your babies are still safe. Did they recommend pelvic or bed rest? I know it's hard, but try to remain positive and hopeful! You've successfully passed one once, hopefully it won't take long to pass this one as well!
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  • @ebennett1007 I'm sorry your having trouble again.
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  • Yes I was on bed rest today and now am on pelvic rest and cannot lift my 15 month old
  • @ebennett1007 UGH!!! These SCH are tricky bastards. I'm sorry for that. I've found that I've modified lifting my 18 month old because even though I'm not supposed to lift more than 20 lbs I am alone with her on days I'm off and need to. I let her climb on me first, or I really bend and pick her up with my whole body, not using my stomach as I normally would. There's no way I can get around lifting her 10 times a day but I'm trying to be mindful about doing it less. 
    TTC: 1/2014 BFP: 9/24 EDD: 6/8/2015 Sorry for the poor man's siggy...ticker won't load regardless of how many tips I read.
  • I'm so sorry @ebennett1007

    I go go for my NT scan tomorrow. I'm really hoping for some good news with my SCH. Not getting my hopes up though. The cramping seems to be back these last two days. 
  • I have faith in your kiddos, @ebennett1007.

    These damn SCH are royal pains in the asses. I know the stress can be overwhelming at times - God knows we've all had our share of scares these pregnancies, but your body knew what to do the first time, and I'm sure it'll figure it out this time as well. You're going to have TWO beautiful babies come July.
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  • @ebennett1007 sorry to hear that you had additional bleeding but happy to hear the babies are still doing well. Its difficult to not be able to lift your 15 month old, try to get down to their level and get extra snuggles. Take it easy- hopefully this one will go away soon!
  • Is anyone still having gushes of dark (dried) blood? I woke up this morning and had one. In previous bleeds, it's always been bright red. I'm less worried because I think it's old blood, and I've literally bled through out this whole damn pregnancy. I'll call my dr but hopefully this dosent turn into another hospital trip.
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  • @yanchuss, I would feel much better about the brown color!! I had two or three days of red/pink bleeding, but ever since, it's been brown, including several gushes and it was brown when I was swabbed during the internal check following the gush of clear fluid I had. The doctor specifically commented that, in the world of pregnancy bleeding, brown is good. Typically, brown also indicates that there is no active, current bleeding. Maybe that means that there is a light at the end of the tunnel for you?
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    Harper Grace born 9 June, 2017
    Colton Miles born 9 June, 2017
    Bowen James due 19 June, 2019
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  • My OB called me and said it's likely okay, but she can't see my until Monday. I have a really important work meeting tomorrow I can't miss, and she told me "if you value this pregnancy, don't go". I don't understand how they can expect me to be on bedrest for "potentially the rest of my pregnancy" when I'm only 13 weeks. This condition is driving me insane.
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  • @yanchuss, I can't believe how your doctors speak to you...but that aside, do you actually have an OB now??
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  • Technically,  yes, but on a part time basis. She said she can't see me regularly because I'm not high risk, but since my family dr is useless, she said she'll see me when I bleed. My sister in law lives in NY..maybe I should move to the states for the rest of my pregnancy to see a real dr haha. I feel so alone in this pregnany. I have to advocate completely for myself,  but this is my first pregnancy and I have no idea who to turn to or why none of my doctors seem to not take bleeding seriously (yet tell me I need to be on bedrest...but I'm not high risk). 
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  • @yanchuss how the hell is that not considered high risk?! That makes zero sense. 
  • I have no idea. They all say since they know the cause, and since it's a hemorrhage they/I can do nothing about, it's not high risk. It doesn't make sense to me, either.  
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  • @yanchuss Brown is good.  Brown is not a current bleed.  And I know what you mean about bed rest. My doctor said she'd not sure when I'll be off bed rest and I'm losing my mind!   I'll officially be out of paid sick days tomorrow,  so they will start docking my pay.  My principal wants me to have grades in the grade book,  but I can't get to the students' work to grade it.  I'm only allowed out of bed to use the bathroom,  eat,  and shower,  and I'm not allowed to lift over 3 pounds. I have a 5 year old and a 2 year old at home with me and I'm being completely useless.  It's  driving me crazy! 
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  • @lamphele I totally feel your pain, though it must be so much tougher with 2 little ones at home! Can your doctor write you a note so you're not penalized for missing work? How are your kids handling it? Do you have anyone at home who's able to help out at all?

    I've been on bed rest for almost 2 weeks now, and I have a 7 year old at home. I feel like I'm totally neglecting her, I can't cook, do any house chores, like you said...do anything put pee and shower basically. I can't work. I can't leave the house because we're in the middle of an ice storm and I'm afraid of falling. It's driving me insane. Hopefully these hemorrhages are gone soon :( 
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  • Guys, sorry to rant, but I'm so torn about going tomorrow. I really need to be there. My step-daughter's biological mom was involved with children's services since 2013 and died suddenly. Childrens Services couldn't terminate the supervision order immediately since they were trying to figure out where to place her half sister, but tomorrow they're finally closing my step-daughter's case so my husband and I get full custody. My husband can technically go alone, but we have been fighting for custody for 4 years (the most stressful 4 years of my life) and I don't want children's services or the judge to have any reason to postpone closing her case for good. It's a 4 hour drive (one way) but we'd be spending the night and I'd be sitting/lying down in bed anyway. Aside from the brown gush this morning, I'm not bleeding at all anymore and I feel fine. Would you guys go?? I obviously care about this pregnancy and want this do whatever I can to make sure I keep the baby; but I'm going to be sitting most of the time anyway, and not going to hear the final verdict will make me stress so much more. Would you risk it?  :(  
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  • @yanchuss this is how my doctor explained it to me about bed rest etc. she said there is no evidence besides anecdotal evidence that bedrest is beneficial..but mentally it is very beneficial. If you were to start bleeding tomorrow after the long day would you be blaming yourself for doing too much even though that was likely not the case? I personally would go, as every day is a different day with the bleeding. But it's not my pregnancy, or body. 
    TTC: 1/2014 BFP: 9/24 EDD: 6/8/2015 Sorry for the poor man's siggy...ticker won't load regardless of how many tips I read.
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