guess i don't understand that if there is a god, why would god make medical intervention possible if he didn't want us to use it? by that logic you should also stop wearing clothes and just hope to survive the elements in your natural state.
but of course most religious people don't bother with crazy things like logic.
I bet @redrosepinkdaisy spits cum all over the sidewalk. Everywhere.
But only if it's divinely inspired spitting.
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Will redrosepinkdaisy carry a loaded firearm in her diaper bag?
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Sorry not everyone believes in modern medicine being the healer of all. We live as naturally as possible when it comes to medicine and we intend to follow our same path with this pregnancy. Apoligies to those who were offended, the choices I make may not be for everyone but they are mine to make and I own that.
Sorry not everyone believes in modern medicine being the healer of all. We live as naturally as possible when it comes to medicine and we intend to follow our same path with this pregnancy. Apoligies to those who were offended, the choices I make may not be for everyone but they are mine to make and I own that.
You realize that even more "natural" medical people still recognize the need for c/s's when medically necessary?
You are still a fucking jerk.
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C/s's are not "modern" by any stretch of the imagination.
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I think birth plans are awesome, I have had my entire plan written out since we first started ttc.
I don't agree with csections being considered births or deliveries, to me it's an insult to mothers that actually did birth their children. Csections are surgical extractions and should be referred to as such.
I'm dreading telling work I'm pregnant because I don't want people asking how I'm feeling everyday.
Tell me this is a joke. Surgical extractions? An insult? Okay, so when I was in labor for 20 hours and my LO got severely stuck in my pelvis as well as both of us having dangerously high fevers and a cesarean was the only safe way I could delivery my child, THAT is somehow not a real birth to you? Not to mention the recovery time is longer and there can be a lot of additional complications. I didn't choose to have a cesarean but it was literally our only option, I couldn't physically deliver my daughter vaginally and our health was in danger.
You are disgusting if you think that doing the only thing you can do to ensure you deliver a healthy baby is an insult and not a real birth. Try going through a traumatic experience like that and fearing for your child's well being before you start spouting ignorant comments like this.
I think birth plans are awesome, I have had my entire plan written out since we first started ttc.
I don't agree with csections being considered births or deliveries, to me it's an insult to mothers that actually did birth their children. Csections are surgical extractions and should be referred to as such.
I'm dreading telling work I'm pregnant because I don't want people asking how I'm feeling everyday.
The responsible thing to do is quit before getting KU. If she did suffer MC in the past, now we know why. All I'm saying is, take some responsibility...your creating a helpless human life!
JFC, Well aren't you a peach. Why don't you get off your high horse Judgy McJudgerpants.
Sorry not everyone believes in modern medicine being the healer of all. We live as naturally as possible when it comes to medicine and we intend to follow our same path with this pregnancy. Apoligies to those who were offended, the choices I make may not be for everyone but they are mine to make and I own that.
So are you Christian?
If so, can you please show me where the bible says I shouldn't have intervened and put my newborn who struggled to breath in the NICU on oxygen?
It wasn't natural, but he's now alive. And pretty damn awesome. He wore a pink sparkly crown to daycare today and currently only responds if you call him tiger, since he's clearly a tiger, not a little boy.
Do I need to apologize to God for saving his life?
We all have our beliefs and for our family it does not include medical intervention or surgical procedures. I feel it's rude that members here have lashed out without knowing me, my background or any of my reasoning.
Wait. So what happens if your kid doesn't come out of your vagina? Are you prepared to kill yourself and your child?
In that situation we would place our lives in the hands of Our Highest Power. In a life or death situation man simply can not alter the intended fate, that can only be done thru divine intervention. If death was our intended fate it would occur irregardless of a csection.
Anyway this is an opinion post, several others have stated theirs so why don't all the critics go pick those apart too.
I was just this.close to having to explain to a room full of kids why I was laughing out loud. I managed to contain myself, but this is awesome.
I think birth plans are awesome, I have had my entire plan written out since we first started ttc.
I don't agree with csections being considered births or deliveries, to me it's an insult to mothers that actually did birth their children. Csections are surgical extractions and should be referred to as such.
I'm dreading telling work I'm pregnant because I don't want people asking how I'm feeling everyday.
FFS you suck.
My opinion and I'm entitled to it, that is what this post is intended for, right?
you do realize that the vast majority of women who have c-sections don't choose to do it ahead of time right, and that just because you wrote out a plan doesn't mean it'll happen that way? I'm not for unnecessary medical intervention, if given the decision of a csection I would opt out. So yes, my written plan will be followed since it states refusal of interventions. All those that will be present at the BIRTH will be fully aware and oblige with my wishes.
Oh, so I should have let my kid die when his heart beat disappeared when my water broke because I didn't want any interventions. I really hate this word but you my dear are a huge cunt.
I'm surprised your "natural" lifestyle allows for internet use and other technology.
Good point. Very unfortunate loophole, if it is one. Redrose you should probably burn your computer. Way too modern. Feel free to chisel stone tablets and send them to the bump for consideration.
I saw "very unfortunate loophole" and thought we were talking about vaginanus.
BFP#1 11-26-10 MMC 1-13-11
BFP#2 6-8-11 Eleanor Beatrice born 2-15-12 BFP#3 9-4-13 Benjamin Lee born 4-28-14
We all have our beliefs and for our family it does not include medical intervention or surgical procedures. I feel it's rude that members here have lashed out without knowing me, my background or any of my reasoning.
Wait. So what happens if your kid doesn't come out of your vagina? Are you prepared to kill yourself and your child?
In that situation we would place our lives in the hands of Our Highest Power. In a life or death situation man simply can not alter the intended fate, that can only be done thru divine intervention. If death was our intended fate it would occur irregardless of a csection.
Anyway this is an opinion post, several others have stated theirs so why don't all the critics go pick those apart too.
"Irregardless"
That REALLY helps make you look like less of an idiot...
We all have our beliefs and for our family it does not include medical intervention or surgical procedures. I feel it's rude that members here have lashed out without knowing me, my background or any of my reasoning.
Wait. So what happens if your kid doesn't come out of your vagina? Are you prepared to kill yourself and your child?
In that situation we would place our lives in the hands of Our Highest Power. In a life or death situation man simply can not alter the intended fate, that can only be done thru divine intervention. If death was our intended fate it would occur irregardless of a csection.
Anyway this is an opinion post, several others have stated theirs so why don't all the critics go pick those apart too.
Well, I am convinced this is MUD. Any self-respecting Internet poster knows that irregardless isn't a word.
We all have our beliefs and for our family it does not include medical intervention or surgical procedures. I feel it's rude that members here have lashed out without knowing me, my background or any of my reasoning.
Wait. So what happens if your kid doesn't come out of your vagina? Are you prepared to kill yourself and your child?
In that situation we would place our lives in the hands of Our Highest Power. In a life or death situation man simply can not alter the intended fate, that can only be done thru divine intervention. If death was our intended fate it would occur irregardless of a csection.
Anyway this is an opinion post, several others have stated theirs so why don't all the critics go pick those apart too.
Actually, no. Death will not always occur REGARDLESS of a c/s. I'm pretty sure my baby is all cute and alive right now because of my c/s, even though she looked dead when she was born with an apgar of 1.
I'm pretty sure doctors and nurses save people's lives every day, so man seems to be pretty good at altering fate I guess. Or when I have a patient hemorrhage should I just stand there and watch her die for no reason?
I assume you will be having an unassisted homebirth. Don't step foot in a hospital because they WILL cut that baby out of you if necessary. You can make stupid ass decisions for yourself but you may not be allowed to jeopardize the life of a minor.
We all have our beliefs and for our family it does not include medical intervention or surgical procedures. I feel it's rude that members here have lashed out without knowing me, my background or any of my reasoning.
Wait. So what happens if your kid doesn't come out of your vagina? Are you prepared to kill yourself and your child?
In that situation we would place our lives in the hands of Our Highest Power. In a life or death situation man simply can not alter the intended fate, that can only be done thru divine intervention. If death was our intended fate it would occur irregardless of a csection.
Anyway this is an opinion post, several others have stated theirs so why don't all the critics go pick those apart too.
Oh.
Oh
my
GOD.
Just no.
There is a reason there are doctors on this planet. They are there TO SAVE YOUR FUCKING LIFE. God forbid you or your child ever need medical help. What if your baby gets sick and needs meds? Are you just going to pray that it goes away/
Sorry not everyone believes in modern medicine being the healer of all. We live as naturally as possible when it comes to medicine and we intend to follow our same path with this pregnancy. Apoligies to those who were offended, the choices I make may not be for everyone but they are mine to make and I own that.
Sorry not everyone believes in modern medicine being the healer of all. We live as naturally as possible when it comes to medicine and we intend to follow our same path with this pregnancy. Apoligies to those who were offended, the choices I make may not be for everyone but they are mine to make and I own that.
So are you Christian?
If so, can you please show me where the bible says I shouldn't have intervened and put my newborn who struggled to breath in the NICU on oxygen?
It wasn't natural, but he's now alive. And pretty damn awesome. He wore a pink sparkly crown to daycare today and currently only responds if you call him tiger, since he's clearly a tiger, not a little boy.
Do I need to apologize to God for saving his life?
I hate when obviously pregnant women smoke in general but even more so when they do it in public! It just seems so attention grabby, like when 12 year olds do it.. And IM a smoker, both times I've been PG I have quit on my own before 9 weeks. It's not that hard. Just don't do it. Or wait till you are home.. Just yuck.
Someone should call CPS on woman like you! Your so proud you quit before 9 weeks? Great job...you smoked the entire time your unborn child was developing all their major organs. It amazes me how some woman spend their lives trying to conceive and suffer miscarriage after miscarriage...yet irresponsible/ignorant people like you float thru life as if your invincible. I will pray for your unborn child's health as well as a wake up call for you.
I think birth plans are awesome, I have had my entire plan written out since we first started ttc.
I don't agree with csections being considered births or deliveries, to me it's an insult to mothers that actually did birth their children. Csections are surgical extractions and should be referred to as such.
Well, I guess I gonna happily insult all those mothers then. Especially those who actually do feel insulted, as I would consider them complete twats.
Sorry not everyone believes in modern medicine being the healer of all. We live as naturally as possible when it comes to medicine and we intend to follow our same path with this pregnancy. Apoligies to those who were offended, the choices I make may not be for everyone but they are mine to make and I own that.
So are you Christian?
If so, can you please show me where the bible says I shouldn't have intervened and put my newborn who struggled to breath in the NICU on oxygen?
It wasn't natural, but he's now alive. And pretty damn awesome. He wore a pink sparkly crown to daycare today and currently only responds if you call him tiger, since he's clearly a tiger, not a little boy.
Do I need to apologize to God for saving his life?
No, we are not christians.
You want to share who your higher power is?
I want to know who I need to apologize to for the life of my kick ass kid.
We all have our beliefs and for our family it does not include medical intervention or surgical procedures. I feel it's rude that members here have lashed out without knowing me, my background or any of my reasoning.
Wait. So what happens if your kid doesn't come out of your vagina? Are you prepared to kill yourself and your child?
In that situation we would place our lives in the hands of Our Highest Power. In a life or death situation man simply can not alter the intended fate, that can only be done thru divine intervention. If death was our intended fate it would occur irregardless of a csection.
Anyway this is an opinion post, several others have stated theirs so why don't all the critics go pick those apart too.
Oh.
Oh
my
GOD.
Just no.
There is a reason there are doctors on this planet. They are there TO SAVE YOUR FUCKING LIFE. God forbid you or your child ever need medical help. What if your baby gets sick and needs meds? Are you just going to pray that it goes away/
Holy God.
Yeah aren't there some people on trial for murder for the SECOND TIME because they killed a baby by not seeking/following medical advice...after also killing the first one the same way?
We all have our beliefs and for our family it does not include medical intervention or surgical procedures. I feel it's rude that members here have lashed out without knowing me, my background or any of my reasoning.
Wait. So what happens if your kid doesn't come out of your vagina? Are you prepared to kill yourself and your child?
In that situation we would place our lives in the hands of Our Highest Power. In a life or death situation man simply can not alter the intended fate, that can only be done thru divine intervention. If death was our intended fate it would occur irregardless of a csection.
Anyway this is an opinion post, several others have stated theirs so why don't all the critics go pick those apart too.
Oh.
Oh
my
GOD.
Just no.
There is a reason there are doctors on this planet. They are there TO SAVE YOUR FUCKING LIFE. God forbid you or your child ever need medical help. What if your baby gets sick and needs meds? Are you just going to pray that it goes away/
Holy God.
Yeah aren't there some people on trial for murder for the SECOND TIME because they killed a baby by not seeking/following medical advice...after also killing the first one the same way?
That is exactly what I thought of when I read her post. I'm actually kind of terrified for her future children.
Sorry not everyone believes in modern medicine being the healer of all. We live as naturally as possible when it comes to medicine and we intend to follow our same path with this pregnancy. Apoligies to those who were offended, the choices I make may not be for everyone but they are mine to make and I own that.
So are you Christian?
If so, can you please show me where the bible says I shouldn't have intervened and put my newborn who struggled to breath in the NICU on oxygen?
It wasn't natural, but he's now alive. And pretty damn awesome. He wore a pink sparkly crown to daycare today and currently only responds if you call him tiger, since he's clearly a tiger, not a little boy.
Do I need to apologize to God for saving his life?
No, we are not christians.
can you possibly elaborate on your beliefs? if you want to come on here and belittle other women's birthing experiences you can at least back it up with something.
We all have our beliefs and for our family it does not include medical intervention or surgical procedures. I feel it's rude that members here have lashed out without knowing me, my background or any of my reasoning.
Wait. So what happens if your kid doesn't come out of your vagina? Are you prepared to kill yourself and your child?
In that situation we would place our lives in the hands of Our Highest Power. In a life or death situation man simply can not alter the intended fate, that can only be done thru divine intervention. If death was our intended fate it would occur irregardless of a csection. Anyway this is an opinion post, several others have stated theirs so why don't all the critics go pick those apart too.
My UO is that I think only sane people should be able to post on the UO thread...
Actually, I take that back. Then it would not be nearly as interesting. I now have something to do during my lunch hour to take my mind off of other things...
IF DX: DOR & Fragile X pre-mutation carrier
2011: FSH 13.3 & E 99; AMH 0.54
2nd FSH 6.2 E 40's AFC: 8
BFP from Clomid/IUI ~ Pre-e and IUGR during pregnancy ~ DS born 9/4/12
Feb./March 2013: AMH less than 0.16 (undectable) and AFC = 4; BFP from supps ~ DS#2 due May 2014
My UO is that I think only sane people should be able to post on the UO thread...
Actually, I take that back. Then it would not be nearly as interesting. I now have something to do during my lunch hour to take my mind off of other things...
Crazies make the world go round. Or make our head's spin. Same diff.
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We all have our beliefs and for our family it does not include medical intervention or surgical procedures. I feel it's rude that members here have lashed out without knowing me, my background or any of my reasoning.
Wait. So what happens if your kid doesn't come out of your vagina? Are you prepared to kill yourself and your child?
In that situation we would place our lives in the hands of Our Highest Power. In a life or death situation man simply can not alter the intended fate, that can only be done thru divine intervention. If death was our intended fate it would occur irregardless of a csection. Anyway this is an opinion post, several others have stated theirs so why don't all the critics go pick those apart too.
This isn't Final Destination, FFS.
The bolded really needs to be Boramir meme.
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Re: UO
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birth
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ETA - is it too early to scare the FTM with vaginanus stories?
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You are disgusting if you think that doing the only thing you can do to ensure you deliver a healthy baby is an insult and not a real birth. Try going through a traumatic experience like that and fearing for your child's well being before you start spouting ignorant comments like this.
Good job quitting @MommyDay2be Some moms don't.
If so, can you please show me where the bible says I shouldn't have intervened and put my newborn who struggled to breath in the NICU on oxygen?
It wasn't natural, but he's now alive. And pretty damn awesome. He wore a pink sparkly crown to daycare today and currently only responds if you call him tiger, since he's clearly a tiger, not a little boy.
Do I need to apologize to God for saving his life?
I'm not for unnecessary medical intervention, if given the decision of a csection I would opt out. So yes, my written plan will be followed since it states refusal of interventions. All those that will be present at the BIRTH will be fully aware and oblige with my wishes.
Oh, so I should have let my kid die when his heart beat disappeared when my water broke because I didn't want any interventions. I really hate this word but you my dear are a huge cunt.
I saw "very unfortunate loophole" and thought we were talking about vaginanus.
BFP#3 9-4-13 Benjamin Lee born 4-28-14
Anyway this is an opinion post, several others have stated theirs so why don't all the critics go pick those apart too.
"Irregardless"
That REALLY helps make you look like less of an idiot...
Anyway this is an opinion post, several others have stated theirs so why don't all the critics go pick those apart too.
Actually, no. Death will not always occur REGARDLESS of a c/s. I'm pretty sure my baby is all cute and alive right now because of my c/s, even though she looked dead when she was born with an apgar of 1.
I'm pretty sure doctors and nurses save people's lives every day, so man seems to be pretty good at altering fate I guess. Or when I have a patient hemorrhage should I just stand there and watch her die for no reason?
I assume you will be having an unassisted homebirth. Don't step foot in a hospital because they WILL cut that baby out of you if necessary. You can make stupid ass decisions for yourself but you may not be allowed to jeopardize the life of a minor.
my
GOD.
Just no.
There is a reason there are doctors on this planet. They are there TO SAVE YOUR FUCKING LIFE. God forbid you or your child ever need medical help. What if your baby gets sick and needs meds? Are you just going to pray that it goes away/
Holy God.
And yes, that does include yourself.
I want to know who I need to apologize to for the life of my kick ass kid.
Oh
my
GOD.
Just no.
There is a reason there are doctors on this planet. They are there TO SAVE YOUR FUCKING LIFE. God forbid you or your child ever need medical help. What if your baby gets sick and needs meds? Are you just going to pray that it goes away/
Holy God.
Yeah aren't there some people on trial for murder for the SECOND TIME because they killed a baby by not seeking/following medical advice...after also killing the first one the same way?
That is exactly what I thought of when I read her post. I'm actually kind of terrified for her future children.
This isn't Final Destination, FFS.
Mine is jealous.
BFP#3 9-4-13 Benjamin Lee born 4-28-14
My UO is that I think only sane people should be able to post on the UO thread...
Actually, I take that back. Then it would not be nearly as interesting. I now have something to do during my lunch hour to take my mind off of other things...
2011: FSH 13.3 & E 99; AMH 0.54 2nd FSH 6.2 E 40's AFC: 8
BFP from Clomid/IUI ~ Pre-e and IUGR during pregnancy ~ DS born 9/4/12
Feb./March 2013: AMH less than 0.16 (undectable) and AFC = 4;
BFP from supps ~ DS#2 due May 2014
May 2014 January Siggy Challenge:
You're offended?
Oh.
DS2 August 2012
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