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  • @radmom27 eek! Yay transfer! I know the TWW must be excruciating! C'mon little embie!!!
    @laurelew how are you feeling? I'm still struggling a lot with anxiety and fear. Thinking of you <3 in these days ramping up to your transfer!
    @JamieH2000 the estrogen is def a wild ride for me. I usually feel okay in the morning, but I have these waves of sadness sometimes and it's hard. Especially in the evening, when I miss my little dog the most, the sadness hits. This time around the estrogen hasn't been as bad -- I definitely react better to the patches rather than the pills. But being on this much makes my eczema worse and makes me kinda nauseous. I swear it's making my hair super curly...it hasn't been this curly in years!!! Does it do that to you? I might be nuts :) The progesterone can be rough but I've only done the suppositories before, never PIO shots. I got them delivered today...those needles are no joke! I'm scared! My SO is squeamish so I don't know if he'll be able to help me. But...maybe I'll just be a hard ass with him and tell him to buck up considering all I've gone through :wink:

    At the time of my first diagnosis with low AMH, I honestly really thought we would have to move to DE then. I don't know if that was intuition or what, but I kind of seemed to know then that we would need to. Right now I'm so scared about transfer though and now I'm afraid my fear means that it won't succeed! Lordy. All this stuff is just a rollercoaster!
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  • @radmom27 I'm so happy to hear the transfer went well.  When is your first beta test scheduled for?
    @lucyb1954 I'm so sorry to hear that the estrogen has you on an emotional roller coaster this week.  I definitely get that way too, especially with the depression.  Happily I've continued to be able to feel like myself for the past week.  Maybe my body just needed to adjust?

    I was nervous for the PIO as well but it wasn't that bad (imo).  Neither was the transfer actually.  The only things I have encountered that were extremely unpleasant so far were the hysteroscopy and the HSG.  My husband has always given me any shots I've needed throughout this process and he is a champ but even he's admitted that he feels stressed giving me shots because he doesn't want to hurt me or mess up.  It doesn't help that the very first PIO shot he ever gave me bled quite a bit after he removed the needle (this happens infrequently but in my experience it never hurts to have some paper towels nearby just in case).

    afm: I've been doing really well.  I've cut back on the amount of news I'm watching and found other ways to occupy my mind and my time.  Last weekend I finally took advantage of my sister's Disney+ account and have been really enjoying the various docuseries on there about Imagineering and the Disney Animation Studios. 

    I did start my medrol and the z pac today to prep my body for the transfer.  That medrol is so nasty!  It's not my first time on it but I can confirm, still nasty.  I also had some indigestion and nausea after dinner tonight -- likely from all those pills.  I think it's also helping my mental health that I'm setting my countdown as the beta day instead of the transfer day -- just over 1.5 weeks to go!  I'm feeling very optimistic for success this month but if it doesn't work I still have 3 more frosties left.


  • lucyb1954lucyb1954 member
    edited June 2020
    @laurelew I’m optimistic for you! What is medrol? It’s not on my transfer protocol. Your transfer is on my boyfriends birthday which I count as good luck. 🍀🤞 I think the only thought that has soothed my worries is thinking that if this doesn’t work we still have 3 more frosties too. I honestly have to focus on that rather than anything else or I get too worked up. I’m glad to hear transfer isn’t too bad. I found the HSG to be extremely painful but I also was at a crappy clinic. I do have a tilted uterus and a small cervix which doesn’t help. I’ve been working on trying to focus on good stuff too, with my gardening projects and baking projects. I’ve wanted to get Disney+ but I feel like I can’t justify another streaming service 🤦‍♀️

    Sending 🤞 to @radmom27!!!
  • @lucyb1954 I always have to google these things myself, lol.  According to google: Medrol is a steroid that prevents the release of substances in the body that cause inflammation.  I take it for 5 days in connection with the z pack.

    I also have a tilted uterus.  The worst part of the transfer for me was all of the water they asked me to drink beforehand in order to have a full bladder for the transfer.  By the time I got to the clinic I thought I would burst.  Of course my bladder ended up being too full so they made me release some of my urine twice before they could successfully see the path clearly for the transfer.  Tomorrow I plan on drinking only about half of what they advise (assuming I get the same prep instructions as before).  My RE also mentioned that with a retroverted uterus your bladder doesn't need to be as full as with a uterus in the normal position.

    I'm planning on going by myself tomorrow since our clinic is close by and I know my DH would not able to come in for the transfer anyway.
  • @laurad75- any luck with insurance yet?

    @radmom27- omg so exciting!! how are you feeling now? the tww sucks but hopefully good news soon. Will you test early?

    @lucyb1954- so glad you are feeling some better on the patches! Its crazy how the hormones effect us all differently. My estrogen is already over 2000 (a natural cycle it gets like 200-300 i think). I think it will be 3000+ by next week since my estrogen doses keep going up. All of this to just get my lining to 8.3 today! I'm happy with that tho. Anything over 8 is a win for me.

    @lauralew- I am also on medrol and z pack. Its not a common protocol anymore but since they were trying everything for me 2 years ago, and that worked, we are doing it again. I don't love the PIO, as it seems to get more sore over time. and WHEN your transfer works, you will be on them for another 6-8 weeks! I also have a tilted uterus (retroverted) :) no issues for me with pain, but I did end up with a rare pregnancy complication from it. But it resolved itself relatively quickly and no further issues then from that.
    History in Spoiler

    Age: 32 (same with DH). Together since 2006, Married June 2013 and TTC since August 2015
    Diagnosis: Mild Endo, DOR (AMH of 1.5), Poor Quality Eggs/embryos, Displaced Window of Implantation (ERA Post Receptive)
    March-May 2016: 1 TI and 2 IUIs- BFN 
    June 2016- Laproscopy- found/removed mild endo and confirmed only 1 normal healthy ovary.
    August 2016- IVF #1 with Antagonist Protocol- Cancelled (2 lead follies), converted to IUI- BFN
    Oct-Nov 2016- IVF #2 with Estrogen Priming Micro Lupron Protocol, 2 eggs retrieved, day 3 transfer of 1- BFN
    January 2017- New RE, IVF#3 with Estrogen Priming Antagonist Protocol, 12 eggs, 8 mature, 6 fertilized, 2 day 5 early blasts transferred (none to freeze :(), BFN
    May 2017- Sept 2017- Starting Donor Egg process! Waiting for donor to be available... and then she is pregnant at baseline :(
    Oct 2017- Donor #2: 25R, 22M,18F, 12 blasts frozen! Fresh transfer cancelled due to thin lining with fluid :(
    Nov 2017- Hysterscopy to remove polyp
    Dec 2017- DE FET #1 on 12/8 on 2 perfect blasts- BFN and devastated
    Jan-Mar 2018- ERA #1- Post receptive by 24 hours, ERA #2 RECEPTIVE with 4 days of Progesterone
    Apr 2018- DE FET cancelled for lining issues :(
    Jun 2018- DE FET #2 of two 1AA blasts- first BFP ever! Beta 10dp5dt- 378, Beta 14dp5dt- 2840, Beta 16dp5dt- 4035, beta 18dp5dt- 10916. Due on 2/20 with one baby after a vanishing twin
    Baby Born born early @ 33.5 weeks due to Pre-e
    Back for # 2!
  • @JamieH2000 Congrats on a successful lining check today!  :)  What are your next steps?  For my protocol I had my lining check last Tuesday and then the transfer will be tomorrow with no additional checks in between.  Is your protocol similar?  I assume that every clinic has their own way of doing things that they find has worked for them and that one isn't necessarily better or worse than the other -- as long as they are able to adjust as necessary and figure out what works best for patients in the event that their standard protocol misses the mark.
  • @lauralew- yup it’s similar for my clinic! Last lining check is usually a week before transfer. Once you start progesterone the lining kinda locks in and stops growing. So my last check is Monday (but could be tues or wed since I don’t start progesterone until Thursday based on the ERA). So I just have one more check next Monday and then transfer the following Monday. 
    History in Spoiler

    Age: 32 (same with DH). Together since 2006, Married June 2013 and TTC since August 2015
    Diagnosis: Mild Endo, DOR (AMH of 1.5), Poor Quality Eggs/embryos, Displaced Window of Implantation (ERA Post Receptive)
    March-May 2016: 1 TI and 2 IUIs- BFN 
    June 2016- Laproscopy- found/removed mild endo and confirmed only 1 normal healthy ovary.
    August 2016- IVF #1 with Antagonist Protocol- Cancelled (2 lead follies), converted to IUI- BFN
    Oct-Nov 2016- IVF #2 with Estrogen Priming Micro Lupron Protocol, 2 eggs retrieved, day 3 transfer of 1- BFN
    January 2017- New RE, IVF#3 with Estrogen Priming Antagonist Protocol, 12 eggs, 8 mature, 6 fertilized, 2 day 5 early blasts transferred (none to freeze :(), BFN
    May 2017- Sept 2017- Starting Donor Egg process! Waiting for donor to be available... and then she is pregnant at baseline :(
    Oct 2017- Donor #2: 25R, 22M,18F, 12 blasts frozen! Fresh transfer cancelled due to thin lining with fluid :(
    Nov 2017- Hysterscopy to remove polyp
    Dec 2017- DE FET #1 on 12/8 on 2 perfect blasts- BFN and devastated
    Jan-Mar 2018- ERA #1- Post receptive by 24 hours, ERA #2 RECEPTIVE with 4 days of Progesterone
    Apr 2018- DE FET cancelled for lining issues :(
    Jun 2018- DE FET #2 of two 1AA blasts- first BFP ever! Beta 10dp5dt- 378, Beta 14dp5dt- 2840, Beta 16dp5dt- 4035, beta 18dp5dt- 10916. Due on 2/20 with one baby after a vanishing twin
    Baby Born born early @ 33.5 weeks due to Pre-e
    Back for # 2!
  • GL today @laurelew!!!! 💪❤️🍀🤞
  • Sorry I've been MIA.  
    @lauralew I hope your transfer went well!!
    @JamieH2000 Good luck on your lining check tomorrow!

    Unfortunately, my transfer didn't take and I ended up with a BFN.  It took me a couple of days of being frustrated and sad but I'm doing better now and am ready to move forward.  
    TTC since August 2014 
    Me: 41, Him: 43 

    DX: Unexplained secondary infertility 

    History:
    Multiple months of Clomid/Femara
    End of March 2015: BFP with Femara! Saw heartbeat at 5.5 weeks. M/C at 11 weeks
    Multiple more months of Femara
    IUI #1 with Femara and Follistem 75 units: BFN
    IUI #2 with Follistem 150 units: BFN
    Dec 2015: 1st IVF. 10 eggs retrieved with 8 eggs fertilized.  5 day transfer of two embryos with 2 frozen embies. BFN
    January 2016: FET #1 2 embryos: BFN
    March 2016: 2nd IVF cycle. 4 eggs retrieved with 2 fertilized. Quick two day transfer of both embryos: BFN
    April/May 2016 IVF #3. 11 eggs retrieved. 10 mature.  7 fertilized.  2 5AA blasts transferred 5/11/2016 BFN
    September 2016 IVF #4: 17 follicles growing, premature ovulation through Cetrotide. Retrieval cancelled. 
    April 2017 IVF #5: 9 follicles growing, 6 eggs retrieved with 5 fertilized. Transfer of three blasts. BFN
    June 2017: IVF #6: 2 follicles growing, 5 eggs retrieved with 5 fertilized. Transfer of 5 3-day embryos. Chemical pregnancy. BFN
    Nov/Dec 2017: Donor egg cycle. 33 eggs retrieved, 26 mature. 26 fertilized. 
  • @radmom27 I'm so sorry. It's so bunk. I just want to scream epithets at infertility sometimes, we all go through so much. It's good that you let yourself feel kinda crappy for awhile, sometimes you just have to lay in bed and hate the world for awhile before you can get up and try again. Did you get pregnant on your first DE transfer the first time around? Are you thinking about possibly switching up the protocol at all?

    @JamieH2000 FX for lining check tomorrow! I had one this past Tuesday and I was at 8.7mm. This Tuesday I'll go in for a blood draw but they're not doing another lining check -- is that weird? They said they were happy with how my lining looked, trilaminar, etc. My E2 level was a hundred something...so relatively low but they said it didn't matter too much. Honestly I can't imagine how you feel with your E2 in the thousands! I would be a wreck!!! :D 

    @laurelew how are you doing? Feeling anxious/crazy yet? FX! Hugs!
    @laurad75 Thinking about you, how are you doing? Get approval yet for another cycle? <3
  • @radmom27 I'm so sorry to hear about your BFN. <3  What is your plan for moving forward?

    @JamieH2000 Best of luck with your lining check tomorrow!

    @lucyb1954 Where are you at in your cycle right now?

    afm: I've been doing okay.  Wednesday has definitely been on my radar.  I asked my DH how he thinks the beta will go and he said he feels like it's 50/50.  I feel the same way.  Statistically I think my odds of success with the transfer should be higher than 50%, but if the odds were in our favor, I feel like things probably should have worked out before this.  So mostly I'm not necessarily looking forward to Wednesday because I can't even fathom moving on from this journey, it feels like all I know at this point.  :(



  • @radmom27- nooo girl :( I’m so sorry. It’s never easier. Are you able to try again soon?

    @lucyb1954- my clinic always checks again before transfer but your RE must think it’s ok so you gotta trust them! So far I’m feeling pretty good with all the estrogen - we will see how high it is tomorrow! Just praying my lining is ok since it’s done odd things in the past!

    @lauralew- are you waiting for the call on wed? I did the time it worked bc I couldn’t take another negative test. Not sure what I will do this time! This whole thing is such mindf***
    History in Spoiler

    Age: 32 (same with DH). Together since 2006, Married June 2013 and TTC since August 2015
    Diagnosis: Mild Endo, DOR (AMH of 1.5), Poor Quality Eggs/embryos, Displaced Window of Implantation (ERA Post Receptive)
    March-May 2016: 1 TI and 2 IUIs- BFN 
    June 2016- Laproscopy- found/removed mild endo and confirmed only 1 normal healthy ovary.
    August 2016- IVF #1 with Antagonist Protocol- Cancelled (2 lead follies), converted to IUI- BFN
    Oct-Nov 2016- IVF #2 with Estrogen Priming Micro Lupron Protocol, 2 eggs retrieved, day 3 transfer of 1- BFN
    January 2017- New RE, IVF#3 with Estrogen Priming Antagonist Protocol, 12 eggs, 8 mature, 6 fertilized, 2 day 5 early blasts transferred (none to freeze :(), BFN
    May 2017- Sept 2017- Starting Donor Egg process! Waiting for donor to be available... and then she is pregnant at baseline :(
    Oct 2017- Donor #2: 25R, 22M,18F, 12 blasts frozen! Fresh transfer cancelled due to thin lining with fluid :(
    Nov 2017- Hysterscopy to remove polyp
    Dec 2017- DE FET #1 on 12/8 on 2 perfect blasts- BFN and devastated
    Jan-Mar 2018- ERA #1- Post receptive by 24 hours, ERA #2 RECEPTIVE with 4 days of Progesterone
    Apr 2018- DE FET cancelled for lining issues :(
    Jun 2018- DE FET #2 of two 1AA blasts- first BFP ever! Beta 10dp5dt- 378, Beta 14dp5dt- 2840, Beta 16dp5dt- 4035, beta 18dp5dt- 10916. Due on 2/20 with one baby after a vanishing twin
    Baby Born born early @ 33.5 weeks due to Pre-e
    Back for # 2!
  • Yesterday I made the decision to test this morning.  My husband was a bit wary (he was nervous it would be negative and I would be an emotional wreck).  I found myself awake in the wee early hours of the morning and figured it was as good a time as any to test.  I'm 7dp5dt today.  


    I was completely shocked to see two lines!!  The second one wasn't even a squinter.  My DH and I are both thrilled.  This is my first positive pregnancy test ever! <3<3<3  Now this little guy just needs to keep sticking!


  • lucyb1954lucyb1954 member
    edited June 2020
    Omg girl! I was just thinking about you because I know how you feel... like after all that has gone so wrong and been so hard, how can anything work? I’m so excited for you! Congratulations! I’ve also never had a positive, gives me hope! 
  • @lauralew YAY!!  Those are two beautiful lines.  Can't wait to hear about your beta.
    @lucyb1954 I kind of loved your "its so bunk" comment.  I couldn't say it better myself.  It took us two transfers to get our 20 month old son so I was hoping this last transfer would be our ticket.  I'm going to do an ERA next and see if my progesterone window is off.  Hoping that helps but we shall see.
    @JamieH2000 How was your lining check?  Crossing my fingers for you. 

    TTC since August 2014 
    Me: 41, Him: 43 

    DX: Unexplained secondary infertility 

    History:
    Multiple months of Clomid/Femara
    End of March 2015: BFP with Femara! Saw heartbeat at 5.5 weeks. M/C at 11 weeks
    Multiple more months of Femara
    IUI #1 with Femara and Follistem 75 units: BFN
    IUI #2 with Follistem 150 units: BFN
    Dec 2015: 1st IVF. 10 eggs retrieved with 8 eggs fertilized.  5 day transfer of two embryos with 2 frozen embies. BFN
    January 2016: FET #1 2 embryos: BFN
    March 2016: 2nd IVF cycle. 4 eggs retrieved with 2 fertilized. Quick two day transfer of both embryos: BFN
    April/May 2016 IVF #3. 11 eggs retrieved. 10 mature.  7 fertilized.  2 5AA blasts transferred 5/11/2016 BFN
    September 2016 IVF #4: 17 follicles growing, premature ovulation through Cetrotide. Retrieval cancelled. 
    April 2017 IVF #5: 9 follicles growing, 6 eggs retrieved with 5 fertilized. Transfer of three blasts. BFN
    June 2017: IVF #6: 2 follicles growing, 5 eggs retrieved with 5 fertilized. Transfer of 5 3-day embryos. Chemical pregnancy. BFN
    Nov/Dec 2017: Donor egg cycle. 33 eggs retrieved, 26 mature. 26 fertilized. 
  • @lauralew- omgggg congrats!! Nothing is more beautiful than those first two lines. So happy for you! Beta tomorrow?

    @radmom27- I think an ERA can never hurt! I so hope the next transfer works. Would love for us to be preggo together again!!!

    Afm- my lining can just never be perfect and Easy! It was 8.4 but the tech said she couldn’t see the trilameter very defined. So I was an anxious wreck all morning. But just got a message that my doctor says it’s good to go! I feel reassured since if it’s questionable at all, she gives me a call to discuss. Waiting to hear my exact transfer time on Monday so I can do my shot exactly 96 hours before. Trying to just stay calm. It’s going to be odd driving myself there and not having DH with me for the transfer :(
    History in Spoiler

    Age: 32 (same with DH). Together since 2006, Married June 2013 and TTC since August 2015
    Diagnosis: Mild Endo, DOR (AMH of 1.5), Poor Quality Eggs/embryos, Displaced Window of Implantation (ERA Post Receptive)
    March-May 2016: 1 TI and 2 IUIs- BFN 
    June 2016- Laproscopy- found/removed mild endo and confirmed only 1 normal healthy ovary.
    August 2016- IVF #1 with Antagonist Protocol- Cancelled (2 lead follies), converted to IUI- BFN
    Oct-Nov 2016- IVF #2 with Estrogen Priming Micro Lupron Protocol, 2 eggs retrieved, day 3 transfer of 1- BFN
    January 2017- New RE, IVF#3 with Estrogen Priming Antagonist Protocol, 12 eggs, 8 mature, 6 fertilized, 2 day 5 early blasts transferred (none to freeze :(), BFN
    May 2017- Sept 2017- Starting Donor Egg process! Waiting for donor to be available... and then she is pregnant at baseline :(
    Oct 2017- Donor #2: 25R, 22M,18F, 12 blasts frozen! Fresh transfer cancelled due to thin lining with fluid :(
    Nov 2017- Hysterscopy to remove polyp
    Dec 2017- DE FET #1 on 12/8 on 2 perfect blasts- BFN and devastated
    Jan-Mar 2018- ERA #1- Post receptive by 24 hours, ERA #2 RECEPTIVE with 4 days of Progesterone
    Apr 2018- DE FET cancelled for lining issues :(
    Jun 2018- DE FET #2 of two 1AA blasts- first BFP ever! Beta 10dp5dt- 378, Beta 14dp5dt- 2840, Beta 16dp5dt- 4035, beta 18dp5dt- 10916. Due on 2/20 with one baby after a vanishing twin
    Baby Born born early @ 33.5 weeks due to Pre-e
    Back for # 2!
  • @JamieH2000 So happy to hear you got the okay to transfer on Monday!  When do you expect to get the call with your transfer time?  How far away is your clinic?  

    @radmom27 I had an ERA last month.  The results showed I was pre-receptive and we adjusted the date of my transfer accordingly.  While I can't definitely say that's what did the trick for me with this transfer, I would be shocked if that didn't play a big role in my BFP.  More information is always a good thing imo.  I hope that your ERA will also give you some answers.

    @lucyb1954 How are you feeling right now?  I'm so excited that you and @JamieH2000 get to be transfer buddies.  I feel like that's a good sign.

    afm: First beta is tomorrow morning.  I'll provide another update once I find out more!



  • @radmom27 bunk all around! I don't really know if other people can understand what it's like, it's honestly beyond anything I can explain to friends who have gotten pregnant on the first try. My hope is that the joy and gratitude after success are directly inverse to the amount of sadness and disappointment we experience - and that's something folks who get to get pregnant on the first try probably don't experience either. 

    @JamieH2000 Glad to hear your lining is participating! I love it when doctors/coordinators understand what kind of person you are...my OE coordinator kinda sucked. She didn't like me because I asked lots of questions and had my own opinions. But she was the only coordinator for my doctor and I loved my doctor. My RE is like yours -- she knows that I like a lot of information and that I have my opinions about things :) How are you going to drive back and forth by yourself with the valium??? I think my clinic is allowing partners in for retrievals and transfers. I'm sorry he can't go with you :(

    @laurelew excited to hear from you tomorrow :) Stoked for you!

    AFM -- I had some GI issues over the weekend and had a nice ER visit. However, they found a pocket of fluid in my GI tract (Idk what) and it was pressing on my right ovary and causing a lot of pain. They said it was just some leftover inflammation from something, so my clinic took another look today -- didn't see any pockets of fluid, my blood levels are good, and my lining is at 10mm. They feel fine going ahead -- of course, I feel a wee nervous about things after my lovely weekend but the pain is pretty much gone and I feel pretty good overall so I'm going ahead. My blood levels don't indicate any infection, etc so I'm going to go with it. PIO starts tomorrow!
  • @lauralew-I can’t wait to hear about your beta tomorrow! My transfer time will be finalized on Sunday but should be around noon so I’m starting my progesterone at noon on Thursday! My clinic where we transfer is 1.5 hours away without traffic. My monitoring options are only 45-60 mins away tho. 

    @lucyb1954- my RE doesn’t do Valium for transfers so no issues with driving. Also- my estrogen is over 2600 today! Haha and my lining is still only 8.4! It must not effect me at all... so sorry to about your ER trip! Scary! But glad your clinic checked you out today. Everything does sound perfect for transfer!!
    History in Spoiler

    Age: 32 (same with DH). Together since 2006, Married June 2013 and TTC since August 2015
    Diagnosis: Mild Endo, DOR (AMH of 1.5), Poor Quality Eggs/embryos, Displaced Window of Implantation (ERA Post Receptive)
    March-May 2016: 1 TI and 2 IUIs- BFN 
    June 2016- Laproscopy- found/removed mild endo and confirmed only 1 normal healthy ovary.
    August 2016- IVF #1 with Antagonist Protocol- Cancelled (2 lead follies), converted to IUI- BFN
    Oct-Nov 2016- IVF #2 with Estrogen Priming Micro Lupron Protocol, 2 eggs retrieved, day 3 transfer of 1- BFN
    January 2017- New RE, IVF#3 with Estrogen Priming Antagonist Protocol, 12 eggs, 8 mature, 6 fertilized, 2 day 5 early blasts transferred (none to freeze :(), BFN
    May 2017- Sept 2017- Starting Donor Egg process! Waiting for donor to be available... and then she is pregnant at baseline :(
    Oct 2017- Donor #2: 25R, 22M,18F, 12 blasts frozen! Fresh transfer cancelled due to thin lining with fluid :(
    Nov 2017- Hysterscopy to remove polyp
    Dec 2017- DE FET #1 on 12/8 on 2 perfect blasts- BFN and devastated
    Jan-Mar 2018- ERA #1- Post receptive by 24 hours, ERA #2 RECEPTIVE with 4 days of Progesterone
    Apr 2018- DE FET cancelled for lining issues :(
    Jun 2018- DE FET #2 of two 1AA blasts- first BFP ever! Beta 10dp5dt- 378, Beta 14dp5dt- 2840, Beta 16dp5dt- 4035, beta 18dp5dt- 10916. Due on 2/20 with one baby after a vanishing twin
    Baby Born born early @ 33.5 weeks due to Pre-e
    Back for # 2!
  • @lucyb1954 Ack!  That pocket of fluid and the ER trip sound stressful!  I'm happy that you're feeling better now and that everything still looks good.  Best of luck starting the PIO today!

    @JamieH2000 Good luck starting your progesterone today as well.  Does your clinic want you to have a full bladder for transfers as well?  That would be the most stressful part of that 1.5 hour drive for me.  Hopefully you have a good podcast or some good tunes queued up and ready to go.  

    afm: First beta went well.  My hcg was 98.  I go back on Friday for my second beta.  They said that as of tomorrow I would be considered 4 weeks.  Feeling very positive right now but still just trying to take everything day by day.
  • lucyb1954lucyb1954 member
    edited June 2020
    Yayyyy! So happy for you <3 That's a fantastic beta. I know the feeling of day by day, I'm sure it will probably feel like that for a bit but hang in there :) 

    @JamieH2000 I'm anticipating the valium will be the best part! Plus I have a small cervix so I'm thinking that might make a little bit more mentally relaxed if I'm not feeling so concerned about pain. After a traumatic saline ultrasound I'm wary of anything but a vaginal ultrasound! Lol my last E2 level was 165 but clinic is not concerned about the number as the lining looks good. I won't get my transfer time until Saturday but at the moment it's at 4pm. I wish it was earlier just to get it over with but oh well. 

    Did my first PIO shot today or rather, my boyfriend did. It took him a few minutes to mentally prepare himself for it, he's very squeamish but he did a good job and I'm proud of him. Selfishly I'm glad he had to do more than provide a sample this time around. I have no idea how I would have done that by myself, it would have been a struggle. Has anyone ever done that?

    Sending hugs @radmom27 <3

  • @laurelew Congratulations!!
    @JamieH2000 So excited for you!  GL on Monday.  
    I took your advice last Wednesday and called my insurance for an updated.  I got two completely different answers from two different people but one of them told me that the clinic had not submitted the request yet (infuriating).  The next day I left a message for the financial coordinator at my clinic and she never called me back but "coincidentally" I got the call this Tuesday that my cycle had been approved.  

    Yesterday was CD 1 so I started estradiol + patch and I go in for monitoring on 7/14.  Hopefully third times the charm for this baby.  




    History and blog link in spoiler
    2016 - dx with super low ovarian reserve; failed cycle with clomid, failed IUI, 
    2017 - egg retrieval #1 - 3 eggs, 0 embryos appropriate for transfer; ER #2 2 eggs, 0 embryos on day 3; ER #3 1 egg 0 embryos
    moved to donor egg in summer 2017; 35 eggs retrieved; 19 fertilized; 9 total embryos
    Fresh transfer Dec 2017= BFP!  baby boy born 8/22/18

    May 2019 - surprise natural pregnancy ended in MC
    Nov 2019 FET; MC at 9 weeks
    May 2020 FET; BFN
    July 2020 FET; CP treated with methotrexate
    Oct 2020 BFP! 

    Take a look at my blog


  • @laurad75 Congrats on getting started again!

    afm: Another great beta this morning!  My numbers went from 98 to 261.  I go back on Tuesday morning for my third beta. 

    For anyone who is more familiar with this than I am, what should I expect from my numbers on Tuesday?  I think the general rule of thumb is that you hope everything doubles every 2 days or so.  Therefore, should I hope for a beta of approx 1000 on Tuesday -- in simple math: 250 x 2 = 500 (Sunday) x 2 = 1000 (Tuesday)?

  • @lauralew That's a great beta!!  Every two days beta is supposed to double so that's perfect! Keep us posted!! 
    @laurad75 I'm hoping third time is my charm too.  I just wish one part of this process would be straightforward and easy.  Glad you got approved!!
    @lucyb1954 Glad you got through your first PIO.  I do my own...at first it was freaky but now it doesn't bother me.  
    @JamieH2000 Transfer coming up so soon!!

    TTC since August 2014 
    Me: 41, Him: 43 

    DX: Unexplained secondary infertility 

    History:
    Multiple months of Clomid/Femara
    End of March 2015: BFP with Femara! Saw heartbeat at 5.5 weeks. M/C at 11 weeks
    Multiple more months of Femara
    IUI #1 with Femara and Follistem 75 units: BFN
    IUI #2 with Follistem 150 units: BFN
    Dec 2015: 1st IVF. 10 eggs retrieved with 8 eggs fertilized.  5 day transfer of two embryos with 2 frozen embies. BFN
    January 2016: FET #1 2 embryos: BFN
    March 2016: 2nd IVF cycle. 4 eggs retrieved with 2 fertilized. Quick two day transfer of both embryos: BFN
    April/May 2016 IVF #3. 11 eggs retrieved. 10 mature.  7 fertilized.  2 5AA blasts transferred 5/11/2016 BFN
    September 2016 IVF #4: 17 follicles growing, premature ovulation through Cetrotide. Retrieval cancelled. 
    April 2017 IVF #5: 9 follicles growing, 6 eggs retrieved with 5 fertilized. Transfer of three blasts. BFN
    June 2017: IVF #6: 2 follicles growing, 5 eggs retrieved with 5 fertilized. Transfer of 5 3-day embryos. Chemical pregnancy. BFN
    Nov/Dec 2017: Donor egg cycle. 33 eggs retrieved, 26 mature. 26 fertilized. 
  • @radmom27 Thanks for the confirmation!  Also  :o  You're a hero for doing your PIO shots on your own.  If the pandemic had not happened this year, I would have been away this weekend for my national sorority conference and I have no idea how I would have handled those PIO shots if I was -- both in regards to the timing and giving them to myself (or roping a friend into helping me!).
  • Ugh @radmom27 you are a trooper for doing them yourself! My boyfriend is getting better at them but I have this rash on the right side of my back...not itchy or painful, but just splotchy and red. I wonder if its the PIO? I texted my coordinator but haven't heard back. Are you thinking to switch up your protocol at all? It could just be a total fluke, I know some FETs don't take for no particular reason. 

    @laurad75 yay for getting started again! Getting anything through insurance is NEVER easy in my experience. I filed a complaint against my insurance last week with the state. BUT so glad it came through for you. I so wish my insurance covered any of this. Are you going to be able to see your acupuncturist in person this time around?

    @JamieH2000 we're almost there! gulp. Do you know if you're doing a male/female embryo?

    @laurelew that's a strong beta -- fantastic!!! How are you feeling? I know it must be nerve wracking -- seems like every step of this journey is -- sending hugs <3
  • @lucyb1954 I was really happy to have that strong second beta.  Right now I'm trying not to worry too much and to practice all of the wonderful waiting techniques I have perfected thanks to infertility, lol.  While I'm mentally prepared for whatever might happen, good or bad, my gut is telling me that everything will be fine and that this is it. (FX)

    Only a few more days until transfer day for you and @JamieH2000 !  I saw you ask Jamie if she is doing a male or female embryo.  Did you do PGS?  If so, are you planning to transfer a male embryo or a female embryo (or let the clinic decide)?  We did PGS and I only had male embryos left so I will be having a little boy. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


  • @laurelew we are transferring a female embryo. Our two female embryos are the top rated ones although the ratings are subjective so I don't really know. My clinic says they have the most success with B rated embryos, however I also don't know how many folks are churning out A embryos. We have two female and two male embryos. 

    FWIW I grew up in an all female household, two sisters, single mom. When my sisters both had boys I was like....what do I do with this?!? But I love them SO much. One of them is three and he's just a doll and I shouldn't have worried! And as well, I wondered like, how would I bond with them? Would I bond with them the same way in which I think I would bond with a female? And the answer is totally yes!

    @JamieH2000 we're almost there! I have some sort of rash on my back from the PIO so I have to go into the clinic today to get it checked out. The nurse says she highly doubts it would interfere with transfer but the are trying to be cautious. Plus I have to go to the clinic that's furthest away from my house, it's the only one open on Sundays. Bunk! I'm so tired and grumpy from the progesterone :-1: 
  • @lucyb1954 What a way to spend your Sunday!  I'm sure you would much rather have had a relaxing day today ahead of the transfer tomorrow.  Let us know how everything goes.

    My sister also has two boys so our family will be an all boy family it seems.  It will be fun watching them all grow up together (although I think I will always be a little wistful whenever I see moms and daughters together).  :(
  • Good luck today @JamieH2000 and @lucyb1954 !!!


  • Thank you @laurelew! I'm nervous, excited, and kind of sad/wistful, Idk why. Lots of hormones and last night my SO decided to pick a fight. I think the stress is wearing on him but it was def a big one and we're still kind of at odds today. But I'm listening to my positive affirmations and just trying to relax. Headed down to the clinic in an hour eek! @JamieH2000 hiyeee you've probably already transferred by now. Hugs and FX <3<3<3
  • @laurad75- so glad you called! and mid July is going to be here before we know it. Third time HAS to be the charm!!!

    @Lauralew- yesss! that is such a good ride for your beta! is tomorrow your last beta? when will you have a scan?!

    @lucyb1954- was the rash ok then?! glad you got the transfer! Your SO was able to come along i think you said? Glad we can be tww buddies together!!

    AFM- transfer is done and baby GIRL is hopefully getting snuggly. I'm not feeling as hopeful as I thought. Its like with having the ERA and the PGS done, it SHOULD work... but thats why i feel like it wont work haha. My journey has just never been easy... so it feels like too much to hope that this transfer would work on the first time...
    History in Spoiler

    Age: 32 (same with DH). Together since 2006, Married June 2013 and TTC since August 2015
    Diagnosis: Mild Endo, DOR (AMH of 1.5), Poor Quality Eggs/embryos, Displaced Window of Implantation (ERA Post Receptive)
    March-May 2016: 1 TI and 2 IUIs- BFN 
    June 2016- Laproscopy- found/removed mild endo and confirmed only 1 normal healthy ovary.
    August 2016- IVF #1 with Antagonist Protocol- Cancelled (2 lead follies), converted to IUI- BFN
    Oct-Nov 2016- IVF #2 with Estrogen Priming Micro Lupron Protocol, 2 eggs retrieved, day 3 transfer of 1- BFN
    January 2017- New RE, IVF#3 with Estrogen Priming Antagonist Protocol, 12 eggs, 8 mature, 6 fertilized, 2 day 5 early blasts transferred (none to freeze :(), BFN
    May 2017- Sept 2017- Starting Donor Egg process! Waiting for donor to be available... and then she is pregnant at baseline :(
    Oct 2017- Donor #2: 25R, 22M,18F, 12 blasts frozen! Fresh transfer cancelled due to thin lining with fluid :(
    Nov 2017- Hysterscopy to remove polyp
    Dec 2017- DE FET #1 on 12/8 on 2 perfect blasts- BFN and devastated
    Jan-Mar 2018- ERA #1- Post receptive by 24 hours, ERA #2 RECEPTIVE with 4 days of Progesterone
    Apr 2018- DE FET cancelled for lining issues :(
    Jun 2018- DE FET #2 of two 1AA blasts- first BFP ever! Beta 10dp5dt- 378, Beta 14dp5dt- 2840, Beta 16dp5dt- 4035, beta 18dp5dt- 10916. Due on 2/20 with one baby after a vanishing twin
    Baby Born born early @ 33.5 weeks due to Pre-e
    Back for # 2!
  • Congrats on your transfers @lucyb1954 and @JamieH2000 . :)  When are your first betas scheduled for?

    @lucyb1954 I'm sorry to hear about the fight with your SO.  My DH and I have been fighting more the past few days, nothing serious just feeling like we've been at odds more than usual (which is generally never).  So I know exactly how your feel.  I think that everyone's stress levels are high right now.

    @JamieH2000 I kept telling myself the same thing, Jamie, that logically I knew it should work but I just couldn't believe it would.  Did you transfer only one embryo?  I see from your signature that it looks like in the past you had opted to transfer two at a time.  Hopefully the fact that you have a busy week coming up at work means that your TWW will fly by.

    afm: I do have my third beta tomorrow morning.  I believe that would be the last one and then they would schedule the 6 week ultrasound.  I'll find out more tomorrow once I get the call with the results.


  • @lauralew- we transferred two last time and both stuck but one stopped at 7 weeks. Then I developed severe pre e at 30 weeks and delivered at 33.5 weeks. So twins would be way to risky this time. So that’s why we did PGS to up our odds with one... can’t wait to hear about your beta tomorrow!
    History in Spoiler

    Age: 32 (same with DH). Together since 2006, Married June 2013 and TTC since August 2015
    Diagnosis: Mild Endo, DOR (AMH of 1.5), Poor Quality Eggs/embryos, Displaced Window of Implantation (ERA Post Receptive)
    March-May 2016: 1 TI and 2 IUIs- BFN 
    June 2016- Laproscopy- found/removed mild endo and confirmed only 1 normal healthy ovary.
    August 2016- IVF #1 with Antagonist Protocol- Cancelled (2 lead follies), converted to IUI- BFN
    Oct-Nov 2016- IVF #2 with Estrogen Priming Micro Lupron Protocol, 2 eggs retrieved, day 3 transfer of 1- BFN
    January 2017- New RE, IVF#3 with Estrogen Priming Antagonist Protocol, 12 eggs, 8 mature, 6 fertilized, 2 day 5 early blasts transferred (none to freeze :(), BFN
    May 2017- Sept 2017- Starting Donor Egg process! Waiting for donor to be available... and then she is pregnant at baseline :(
    Oct 2017- Donor #2: 25R, 22M,18F, 12 blasts frozen! Fresh transfer cancelled due to thin lining with fluid :(
    Nov 2017- Hysterscopy to remove polyp
    Dec 2017- DE FET #1 on 12/8 on 2 perfect blasts- BFN and devastated
    Jan-Mar 2018- ERA #1- Post receptive by 24 hours, ERA #2 RECEPTIVE with 4 days of Progesterone
    Apr 2018- DE FET cancelled for lining issues :(
    Jun 2018- DE FET #2 of two 1AA blasts- first BFP ever! Beta 10dp5dt- 378, Beta 14dp5dt- 2840, Beta 16dp5dt- 4035, beta 18dp5dt- 10916. Due on 2/20 with one baby after a vanishing twin
    Baby Born born early @ 33.5 weeks due to Pre-e
    Back for # 2!
  • @JamieH2000 I know how you feel. I think especially for us DE ladies, it's like...nothing has gone right so far, so how can anything go right now??? Probably pretty natural, I totally feel that way! My transfer went well today but I don't really know what to feel right now. I was so nervous all day today. And now I just have to wait and try not lose my mind. We shall try not to lose our minds together!

    @laurelew GL tomorrow! I'm feeling very positive for you <3
  • @lucyb1954 I will be able to see my acupuncturist in person a couple of times and also do virtual. I’ll have in person acupuncture at the clinic the day of transfer. 

    I sometimes get skin irritations from PIO. I think it’s pretty common but definitely mention it to your nurse. 

    @JamieH2000 FX for you! 
    History and blog link in spoiler
    2016 - dx with super low ovarian reserve; failed cycle with clomid, failed IUI, 
    2017 - egg retrieval #1 - 3 eggs, 0 embryos appropriate for transfer; ER #2 2 eggs, 0 embryos on day 3; ER #3 1 egg 0 embryos
    moved to donor egg in summer 2017; 35 eggs retrieved; 19 fertilized; 9 total embryos
    Fresh transfer Dec 2017= BFP!  baby boy born 8/22/18

    May 2019 - surprise natural pregnancy ended in MC
    Nov 2019 FET; MC at 9 weeks
    May 2020 FET; BFN
    July 2020 FET; CP treated with methotrexate
    Oct 2020 BFP! 

    Take a look at my blog


  • Just wanted to provide a quick update that my numbers continue to look good.  My hcg levels went from 261 on Friday to 1548 today (Tuesday).  I'll be going back on Thursday for my last beta.  If that looks good then we should be scheduling the first ultrasound for some time next week!
  • @lauralew- that amazing!! So happy for you!! Scan then in a week or so?

    @laurad75- thank you friend!
    History in Spoiler

    Age: 32 (same with DH). Together since 2006, Married June 2013 and TTC since August 2015
    Diagnosis: Mild Endo, DOR (AMH of 1.5), Poor Quality Eggs/embryos, Displaced Window of Implantation (ERA Post Receptive)
    March-May 2016: 1 TI and 2 IUIs- BFN 
    June 2016- Laproscopy- found/removed mild endo and confirmed only 1 normal healthy ovary.
    August 2016- IVF #1 with Antagonist Protocol- Cancelled (2 lead follies), converted to IUI- BFN
    Oct-Nov 2016- IVF #2 with Estrogen Priming Micro Lupron Protocol, 2 eggs retrieved, day 3 transfer of 1- BFN
    January 2017- New RE, IVF#3 with Estrogen Priming Antagonist Protocol, 12 eggs, 8 mature, 6 fertilized, 2 day 5 early blasts transferred (none to freeze :(), BFN
    May 2017- Sept 2017- Starting Donor Egg process! Waiting for donor to be available... and then she is pregnant at baseline :(
    Oct 2017- Donor #2: 25R, 22M,18F, 12 blasts frozen! Fresh transfer cancelled due to thin lining with fluid :(
    Nov 2017- Hysterscopy to remove polyp
    Dec 2017- DE FET #1 on 12/8 on 2 perfect blasts- BFN and devastated
    Jan-Mar 2018- ERA #1- Post receptive by 24 hours, ERA #2 RECEPTIVE with 4 days of Progesterone
    Apr 2018- DE FET cancelled for lining issues :(
    Jun 2018- DE FET #2 of two 1AA blasts- first BFP ever! Beta 10dp5dt- 378, Beta 14dp5dt- 2840, Beta 16dp5dt- 4035, beta 18dp5dt- 10916. Due on 2/20 with one baby after a vanishing twin
    Baby Born born early @ 33.5 weeks due to Pre-e
    Back for # 2!
  • @lauralew So so so happy for you!!! Can't wait to hear about your US
    @JamieH2000 You're PUPO!!!! Curious how you're handling lifting your toddler...My first transfer I lifted him like I normally would have but the second I was more cautious (both failed for me). My instinct tells me that it shouldn't matter but always curious to hear what others do.
    @lucyb1954 PUPO!!!! Crossing my fingers and toes for you.

    TTC since August 2014 
    Me: 41, Him: 43 

    DX: Unexplained secondary infertility 

    History:
    Multiple months of Clomid/Femara
    End of March 2015: BFP with Femara! Saw heartbeat at 5.5 weeks. M/C at 11 weeks
    Multiple more months of Femara
    IUI #1 with Femara and Follistem 75 units: BFN
    IUI #2 with Follistem 150 units: BFN
    Dec 2015: 1st IVF. 10 eggs retrieved with 8 eggs fertilized.  5 day transfer of two embryos with 2 frozen embies. BFN
    January 2016: FET #1 2 embryos: BFN
    March 2016: 2nd IVF cycle. 4 eggs retrieved with 2 fertilized. Quick two day transfer of both embryos: BFN
    April/May 2016 IVF #3. 11 eggs retrieved. 10 mature.  7 fertilized.  2 5AA blasts transferred 5/11/2016 BFN
    September 2016 IVF #4: 17 follicles growing, premature ovulation through Cetrotide. Retrieval cancelled. 
    April 2017 IVF #5: 9 follicles growing, 6 eggs retrieved with 5 fertilized. Transfer of three blasts. BFN
    June 2017: IVF #6: 2 follicles growing, 5 eggs retrieved with 5 fertilized. Transfer of 5 3-day embryos. Chemical pregnancy. BFN
    Nov/Dec 2017: Donor egg cycle. 33 eggs retrieved, 26 mature. 26 fertilized. 
  • @laurelew congratulations!!!! That’s fantastic! I’m thrilled for you. 

    Thanks @radmom27 right now I’m so exhausted I can’t even think straight. Maybe it’s the progesterone suppositories? I never take naps and I took a four hour one today and feel like I could just lay back down for another! Srsly how does anyone work like this???

    @laurad75 they ordered a different formulation of PIO for me. Of course on Sunday I had to spend an hour and a half driving and 45 minutes waiting for the doctor for him to take 2 minutes looking at it and say oh yeah, we’ll just prescribe a different formulation 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️ I’m really excited you’re getting started again! So you wait two weeks after starting meds to go for monitoring? I think I went after a few days. ❤️❤️❤️
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