Chart Stalk / Questions - April

ruby696 · April 2019

@kbrown2385 I was exhausted on Clomid. It was really my only symptom.

kbrown2385 · April 2019

@ruby696 I’m certainly not complaining, it’s the best I’ve had in a long while 🤣. I wasn’t expecting it though! It wasn’t one of the side effects I’ve seen.

ruby696 · April 2019

@kbrown2385 My eyes would be burning by 8:30 and I was pretty much unconscious by 9:00. My poor husband was probably so lonely. Lol

pinkpeonies123 · April 2019

I have endometriosis and had a laproscopy couple of years ago but the endo in my uterus wasn’t removed. This cycle I began to try a TCM herb called Resolve lower, which is supposed to cleanse and remove the endo. I am wondering if anyone has tried this herb and had success with it.

keikilove · April 2019

@pinkpeonies123 Thanks for posting this here. I'm sorry I can't be any help, as I'm not familiar with this particular herb. But I wanted to thank you for posting about it because I shared it with my friend who is suffering with fibroids and wants to take a natural approach to shrinking them before opting for surgery as a last resort. Hopefully others will chime in who can actually give you input on it.

shannie36 · April 2019

Re-posting this question here as instructed.

Hi all! I've been reading a lot lately about eating pineapple or taking bromelain supplements to help with implantation. I would really like to see if it is legit before I start using it... Has anyone had success with eating pineapple or taking bromelain to assist with implantation? Has anyone's doctor/OBGYN recommended this or commented on it? What are your thoughts? - Thanks!!

m6agua · April 2019

@shannie36

*TW pregnancy & mc mentioned*
with my first pregnancy I did not eat pineapple core, it ended in a miscarriage (blighted ovum). Second pregnancy (LC) I did all the things while TTC, including eating pineapple core. Who knows if that helped at all.🤷🏼‍♀️

lulu1180 · April 2019

@shannie36 I've tried eating pineapple core multiple times and have never even seen a hint of a second line after nearly 3 years

brookert615 · April 2019

@shannie36 To be honest I would probably speak directly to your doctor, that's just the best way to go about it. I heard a lot of stuff about pineapple and timing and even though it was just forums they were saying that if you don't understand your cycle enough and you take it too late that it can shorten the luteal phase. Yeah, it's nice to add stuff to the TTC arsenal but the professionals know best.

inthewoods23 · April 2019

*TW pregnancy & mc mentioned*
A friend I know who went through a few miscarriages before their rainbow baby was told to avoid pineapple while she was pregnant so 🤷

Sounds like maybe for some it could do more harm than good.

marebear15 · April 2019

*TW LC*
I heard about eating pineapple to start labor when I was overdue with DD. I'm not sure how pineapple could help both implantation and starting labor?

kagesstarshroom · April 2019

@shannie36 I've heard pineapple is good for the woman to eat *on* O but no idea why-- MH eats pineapple because otherwise his sperm is stingy to me, and it helps with that. ***TW*** the cycle that got me my most recent loss, I ate pineapple on O--and remembered, as my mouth went numb, that I shouldn't eat it lol bc it makes my mouth go numb. Ah, the things we'll do for a positive test.

@marebear15RLT is supposed to help build the uterine lining during AF & WTO and then be avoided and then also help during 2nd and 3rd tri for different reasons? So, there are definitely things that could be good for different parts of the process for different reasons.

ETA: to add tag!

kagesstarshroom · April 2019

twoooo questions about OPKs!

1) I've been doing my OPKs in the morning ("SMU" lol aka "second morning urine") and then at night-- all have been very negative until tonight! but it's like 11pm & I'm like "should I just put that it was positive for *tomorrow*?" Like, since it was negative in the morning & it's so late now? But also that makes no sense & I'll just prolli put it was positive tonight. I wish there was a way to record day/night like there is for BD!

2) I was like 99% sure tonight's OPK was positive--the lines totally look, to the eye, the same darkness-- but I took a pic of it and ran it thru FF's "lightbox" & there's a 6.6% difference in hue between the two--soooo, I know they're supposed to be exactly the same, but like, I still think I should note that it's positive?

I feel like I know the answers to these questions haha, but still was hoping some of yall might weigh in (it's the weekend sooooo.... who knows!)

brookert615 · April 2019

@kagesstarshroom So this obviously has no backing other than my cross testing with same FMU with advanced and cheapies for my last three cycles and my findings lol. So the app I used for my cheapies will say I had a low, mid-range, high and peak based off of the pictures I take (never a negative or positive). When I have high days on my cheapies will also read as high on the advanced OPKs, same with peaks. The advanced only catches a high reading a day or two before my cheapies do but the cheapies will have a fainter line but still dark for those and it does a percentage of the LH... even some of the “peaks” were two dark lines but one was a little fainter now that I look back on the pics in the app. Also I’m supposed to use mid-day pee for the cheapies where I just have been using the morning. There’s conflicting info on the interwebs about if you should/shouldn’t do FMU lol. The fact that you got a darker line at night I think is promising and I personally would mark it as a positive for today even though it was at 11. But tomorrow maybe try to test with FMU and then hold your pee a bit and test around like 2pm to see if you catch that surge. Sorry if this was a huge, confusing ramble! 🤪

chichiphin · April 2019

@kagesstarshroom I usually only get my first positive OPK at night around 9... so I think it can be dependent on your body! I do test again the next morning to see if I’m still surging. I usually mark the day I get the first positive even if it is at night.

kagesstarshroom · April 2019

@brookert615 @chichiphin Thank you! I tested again & got a darker line than the control line this morning--and you're right, B, there IS conflicting info on the webs about opks. luckily i have the cheepies--and i'll stick with marking + for yesterday even though it was at night. i was thinking that, about bodies--and how different people probably O at different times a day. (& I wonder how often that is consistent--like if you O mid-afternoon, do you always/are more likely to do so then? THE THINGS I LEARN TO THINK ABOUT HERE.) ANYWAY, thanks again.

keikilove · April 2019

Chart Stalk help would be much appreciated, thank you! FF won’t give me crosshairs & I’m not sure why. Any insight or O predictions are appreciated. (Even if I add in high temps into the next 7 future days it still won’t give me CH.)

I was traveling across time zones this past week & it was impossible to take my temp at a regular time. Also, the ONLY thing I forgot to pack was my BBT.😡 Y’all, I actually stayed in bed the first day & pretended I felt feverish so that my host would bring me a thermometer.🤒 Shameful!!

Real ugly chart:

Chart w temps discarded since they were taken at way earlier times than usual:

chichiphin · April 2019

@keikilove well I am awful with chart reading, but I vote between 14 & 15.

marebear15 · April 2019

@keikilove - I'm surprised FF won't give you CHs for CD15. It looks pretty clear that that's when you O'd, but then again FF likes to give you CHs on your peak OPK day which makes no sense to me. What happens if you change all your times to the same time (keeping the same temps)?

m6agua · April 2019

@keikilove I'm going with O on CD15. My guess is FF won't give you CH because of all of the open circles. I guess I would be confident with CD15 because of your temps, the fact that your CM changed the next day (creighton method), and that you had +OPK. In the grand scheme of things your timing is great so I wouldn't worry too much.

keikilove · April 2019

@chichiphin @marebear15 @m6agua Thank you all for chiming in. Mare, I thought you had the magic answer so I excitedly changed all the times to be consistent. Now I have no open circles now but still no CH. 🤷🏼‍♀️ Even if I enter high temps all the way to predicted start of AF I get nothing. Oh well, tests will give me the answer either way in about a week.

marebear15 · April 2019

@keikilove - Have you tried FAM? Although that would probably give you CHs on CD17. I would just mark it yourself on CD15 with a coverline of 98.1.

bows22 · April 2019

@keikilove did you enter the future high temps after you changed the times to be consistent? I would think consistent times plus a high temp tomorrow will give you CH for CD17, possibly dotted. Were CD 11 and 13 temps later than usual? If so I would discard those because then it might give them to you for CD15

mlj33 · April 2019

Could anyone look at my chart? Last month my temps were all over the place and I don't believe I ovulated. This one looks more promising i think, but i'm new to this! Originally, FF showed i ovulated on CD9 (which i thought was early) and now it has moved to CD 11! Do you agree? any thoughts or insight would be much appreciated. thank you!!

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m6agua · April 2019

@mlj33 It looks good so far, but you don't have a whole lot of data yet. Do you track cm at all, did you have any fertile cm around CD 10/11? A couple other questions, do you think you typically ovulate that early and are your cycles typically that short? If the answer is yes to both of those questions, then I would think O on CD 11 is a possibility.

mlj33 · April 2019

@m6agua I haven't gotten into tracking CM yet, still new and learning all of this. My cycles are usually shorter than average. i would say usually 24 day cycle length. Hopefully O on CD11 is accurate because i BD perfect for that timing.

keikilove · April 2019

@marebear15 When I did FAM before it still wouldn’t give me CH but using your trick of changing all the wake up times to the same time finally did give me CH...exactly as you said: on CD 17. I’ve never O-ed that late but this chart doesn’t match any of my previous ones. @bows22 Thank you for the ideas as well. If I don’t use FAM & do exactly what you said (put in a high temp, discard CD 11 & 13) nothing changes, no CH. This month will remain a mystery to me.

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m6agua · April 2019

@keikilove I'm still inclined to say against FF that you O'd on CD15/16, with a slow rise pattern. Mainly because of the change in CM and your +OPK. I think this, from TCOYF website sort of explains what I am thinking.

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ETA more

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bows22 · April 2019

@keikilove I agree with @m6agua on CD15 that’s why I was trying to see what FF’s problem is haha. I wonder if it’s because you don’t have enough pre-O temps if you still have those other super low temps discarded.

NYTino24 · May 2019

Anyone with a LP defect or progesterone issues wanna look at my chart? Headed to an RE soon and also wondering about Hashimoto’s...

brookert615 · May 2019

@NYTino24 Please push for a full thyroid panel if you're concerned about Hashi's. They caught mine with the antibodies test.

m6agua · May 2019

@NYTino24 Yes, if you are concerned about Hashimoto's you will need them to test your TPO antibodies and TGab. I highly suggest a full thyroid panel (TSH, FT4, FT3, Reverse T3, and antibodies) at the minimum. Sometimes people with Hashi's can be negative for antibodies but can be diagnosed through an ultrasound of the thyroid. This isn't nearly as common though and is pretty rare, usually you have positive antibodies.

As for your chart, I think I would need to see a few complete ones to have more whole thoughts around it. I have thyroid problems and one of my symptoms in hindsight was that my temps were low. My pre o temps were always 96.something and my post o temps basically never got to 98.0, so they stayed in the 97 range. Cold hands and feet, and low body temperature can be a symptom ofHypothyroidism/Hashimoto's. Basically with Hypothyroidism everything in your body slows down. Lower body temps, slow digestion, slow reflexes, slow thought process, slow metabolism, fatigue, hair loss, outer third of your eyebrows very thin to little hair, memory issues, brain fog, and the list goes on and on of symptoms. 95% of people who have hypothyroidism actually have Hashimoto's. Conventional medicine just typically doesn't test for antibodies, all they ever test is TSH & FT4 which doesn't give you the whole picture. I would think the short LP would be something with progesterone and maybe something else. I had low progesterone, testosterone, B12, and D with all of my thyroid issues and ratio of estrogen/progesterone was off, but had a pretty "normal" cycle with a typical LP. Everyone's body reacts different ly to similar things though.

NYTino24 · May 2019

@brookert615 Thanks. I plan to!

@m6agua I have all of those symptoms with a 60 lb. weight loss *TW* since my son was born 17 months ago. My BMI is normal though. */TW* I never knew that about the eyebrows, but mine are very sparse on the ends...

m6agua · May 2019

I would bet you have some sort of thyroid problems then. The thing with Hashimoto’s is you can swing between hyper to hypothyroid.

*TW Postpartum*

*TW* my thyroid symptoms started after my daughter was born, first noticeable symptoms were 5/6 months pp, and just kept getting worse/evolving. I spent 6+ months with my PCP before I finally sought out a function practitioner who specializes in women’s hormones at 18 months pp. Postpartum Thyroiditis is a thing, and I think some people who have PPD actually have PPT. Some people PPT doesn’t go away and end up with true thyroid issues (me). In hindsight I had symptoms right away*End TW*

Feel free to PM me, I’ve learned as much as I could in the last 2 years (1 since treatment). I would imagine that you probably do have other hormone imbalance and that is all causing the short LP. I highly suggest going to a functional practitioner. It can get expensive, but they try to actually fix the problem rather than slapping a bandaid on symptoms. There are a lot that do virtual practice if you don’t have any in your area. Like all practitioners they are not created equal. Mine really helped me feel well enough to function again and get my head above water, but now a year later I think I may need to find someone else to dig deeper with me.

NYTino24 · May 2019

@m6agua Thanks for the info. I filled out the online form twice for the RE and it didn’t work. I chickened out of calling and decided to wait until Monday since AF should be here and that would be cycle 6.

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