I'm sorry @purplg8r getting let down by a canceled cycle is not easy; however, I'm glad you have a plan moving forward! I hope the new med plan will make all the difference!! Eat as many carbs as you want and do whatever you need to ❤️ I'll be following along with your next cycle, I feel so invested in all y'alls journeys!
I'm sorryyyyyyyyyyyy @purplg8r, that sucks! very sorry, eat all the carbs that you want and chocolate too! you got my green light for that! wish you the best for your December transfer! did you say that on your DH's insurance they have a lifetime max $$ amount to cover FET? did you reach the max? if, so does it mean they will not cover anymore at all because of the lifetime term or just for this year? sorry, insurance is so confusing for me and I have a lifetime max on my insurance too so I'm trying to understand... again very sorry for your canceled cycle
@purplg8r sorry your cycle was cancelled 😩 I completely understand what you said about being resigned to delays in the office, then being mad later. I’m sorry for more waiting and all that frustration. But it is nice you’ll have a shorter protocol next time. And I sound like a broken record, but did they say anything about delestrogen for next time? Hope it all comes together for your December transfer ❤️
I got an email from a nurse, as they couldn’t reach me by phone (dead zones in the mountains). They said the labs looked good and to start PIO right away. So, somehow I’m still on for 10/15! Did not see this as the outcome, but I’m hopeful the lining is good enough for our embryo 🙏
@babydust2507 H’s insurance covers $11,000 lifetime. My clinic said we would hit that with 3 iuis, an ER, and a transfer with maybe some going to a second if needed. I foolishly thought we would be KU in a year. I talked with insurance yesterday and there are still monitoring sessions for ER and this FET cycled that need to be processed but it looks like I’ve used around $4500 of that lifetime max. It costs about $6000 a year for me to be on H’s insurance
@purplg8r I am so, so sorry! My last cycle was cancelled for hormone issues and I know how much it sucks and how frustrating it is to have no control. Obviously you don’t want to waste an embryo on a bad cycle, but you still want to shake your RE and be like, “Why can’t you make this work!?” I’m frustrated for you that they’re making you skip a cycle. Did they say why you couldn’t go straight into another cycle? It’s neither here nor there, just curious. Anyway, eat all the carbs because you damn well deserve them. I’m so sorry—lots of creepy internet hugs, my friend!
so sorry @purplg8r getting canceled is hell. and having to wait an extra cycle! IF definitely teaches us patience (or forces patience upon us). you've earned the carbs.
TTC History in Spoiler
Me: 29 DH:34 TTC 21 cycles All TI cycles BFN (with letrozole, ovidrel, prometrium) Hysteroscopy + Polypectomy + D&C on 1/3 IUI #1 February 6, BFP 2/21, CP 2/26 IUI #2 March 14, BFN IUI #3 April 11, BFN IUI #4 May 11, BFN July 2018 IVF, developed lead follicle, converted to TI, BFN August/September 2018 IVF converted to freeze-all: 7 mature eggs; we fertilized 3 and froze 4. 3/3 fertilized and 1 blast! October 2018 FET-BFN November 2018 FET-TBD
whoop whoop @hereforthebabies!!!! that's awesome news very happy for you! c'mon 10/15 we're ready! @purplg8r thanks for explaining and I got my fingers crossed for you, this december FET will be the one!
@purplg8r I'm so sorry you've been cancelled this month. I've had cancelled cycles before and know how frustrating and infuriating it is. I'm glad your RE talked you through it and made a plan going forward. You want that precious bean to go into the best and snuggliest place! Easy to say now - but hopefully this extra time will get you your perfect results. In the meantime - eat watch and enjoy all the junk. @hereforthebabies Woo-hoo for starting progesterone! I'm not a PIO warrior - but I'm sure you got this!! @blackhottamales I am sooooo ready for this month to be over! DH mentioned Christmas this morning and then immediately said he just couldn't think about it until we were through with this month and knew what was what. I think he's actually more conscious of this cycle for me than for any others - he's been incredibly sweet over the last week (bought me roses - keeps making dinner - insisting we go for sushi 'one last time' this weekend - even suggesting a relaxing mini-break!). Long may this last! Sorry I've been a little mia this week. Had a little meltdown after starting the estrogen so took a step back, but doing better now. So who's still in for transfer this week? It's getting hard to be sure from the progress sheet - everyone still with us?: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Hp2DYP3NKffgFo3JJkKIs8GCCKUfoa3TUWWPs_Z-IT0/edit#gid=0
**History in Spoiler**
Me 39, DH 40 Married Oct 2010, TTC ~7yrs Seeing RE since Spring 2013 Clomid - no response Letrozole (6 months) 2015 Laperoscopy/Hysteroscopy in 2015 Puregon injectibles + trigger x5 in 2016 - all BFN Started IVF March 2017 - 25 follies, 9 eggs, 3 fertilised, 1 survived-> frozen due to hyper stimulation of ovaries FET May 16th 2017, BFP May 27th 2017, m/c @ 9wks IVF #2 February 2018 - 16 eggs, 8 fertilised, 3 frozen embabies Awaiting FET April 2018 - cancelled (cyst) FET May 2018, BFP June 2nd 2018, m/c @ 8wks FET October 2018 - BFN Final FET - late November 2018
@purplg8r - Sorry about
the delay, but as you said it is for the best, you need to have your body and
levels in the best shape to welcome your embaby. @hereforthebabies - Yayyyy for
moving forward!! So excited for you.
AFM - PIO tip: the pre-op nurse had a suggestion and its working!! I normally do
heat-massage-heat, so this time I switched to massage-heat-massage and added
walking. So, once DH finishes with the
PIO, he massages then I put a heating pad for a couple of minutes and then I walk
around the house, massaging at the same time.
Its been only 4 shots but I can tell the difference on the soreness.
On a different note, I think
I can say now we are ready for transfer day on Saturday! Still very very nervous, excited, anxious,
scared, etc!! But since this is our last embaby, and we both have OCD
personalities, DH and I had a good talk last night to go over our plans for the
future. For now,
just thankful we made it to today and praying our embaby makes it through
thawing and that we have a baby in 9 months.
If for some reason, that is not the result, we will put the baby plan on
hold for a few years, and maybe we will move closer to the beach and travel to
our wish list destinations, just focus on us as a couple, and then maybe we
will look into adopting a kid or an older baby (as we will be close to our
50’s). It was
a great talk, he ended up saying, we should be in peace, we have done
everything, own eggs, donor eggs, surgeries, tons of needles, acupuncture,
meditation, supplements, so if this one doesn’t work, there must be a different
plan for us.
@roisis eat all the sushi!!! I ate poke bowls everyday before transfer. I’m so sad I can’t have them right now. My brain sometimes tells me it wouldn’t be so bad to have it. But I keep driving past them sad. I’ve been less good about not eating lunch meats, too many free lunches at my work are sandwiches. Haha
@mama2b1974 That sounds like an amazing outlook you have with your DH!! It sounds like you are in a really great place. I'm still rooting like crazy for you here - but I also really like your alternative plans @northbeach3 ALL.THE.SUSHI!!!!! (also I admittedly just had to look up what poke bowls were - looks yum - we're still not quite up on all the latest food trends over here ) Didn't realise lunch-meats were a thing - I'm pescitarian so I tend to avoid meat anyway
**History in Spoiler**
Me 39, DH 40 Married Oct 2010, TTC ~7yrs Seeing RE since Spring 2013 Clomid - no response Letrozole (6 months) 2015 Laperoscopy/Hysteroscopy in 2015 Puregon injectibles + trigger x5 in 2016 - all BFN Started IVF March 2017 - 25 follies, 9 eggs, 3 fertilised, 1 survived-> frozen due to hyper stimulation of ovaries FET May 16th 2017, BFP May 27th 2017, m/c @ 9wks IVF #2 February 2018 - 16 eggs, 8 fertilised, 3 frozen embabies Awaiting FET April 2018 - cancelled (cyst) FET May 2018, BFP June 2nd 2018, m/c @ 8wks FET October 2018 - BFN Final FET - late November 2018
Not sure but I think poke was popularized in Hawaii. Basically raw fish with delicious sauces over rice with various toppings. A lot of places cropped up similar to chipotle. You customize your bowl as you order. I’m making my mouth water. (((Cries))) lol
@northbeach3 i had a friend in town this weekend who is an OBGYN and she was looking out for my dietary restrictions during the 2WW and said "let's avoid sandwiches but sushi is ok just keep the high mercury ones limited to one serving a week". if by a miracle i do get a BFP i plan to eat salmon sushi/poke (my fav anyway!) during pregnancy. everyone has a different take on things but this is one of the debated ones and most of the world considers it safe. just some encouragement - but of course do whatever you feel comfortable with/what your dr recommends!
TTC History in Spoiler
Me: 29 DH:34 TTC 21 cycles All TI cycles BFN (with letrozole, ovidrel, prometrium) Hysteroscopy + Polypectomy + D&C on 1/3 IUI #1 February 6, BFP 2/21, CP 2/26 IUI #2 March 14, BFN IUI #3 April 11, BFN IUI #4 May 11, BFN July 2018 IVF, developed lead follicle, converted to TI, BFN August/September 2018 IVF converted to freeze-all: 7 mature eggs; we fertilized 3 and froze 4. 3/3 fertilized and 1 blast! October 2018 FET-BFN November 2018 FET-TBD
hi friends, I've popped over to the November FET board but have been lurking and rooting for all of you
Just wanted to send my love to @MamaK225 and @purplg8r - BFNs and cancelled cycles suck a big one. Thinking of you ladies and hoping that your recovery from this set back is swift and as painless as possible
@purplg8r - I'm so sorry for the delay! what a bummer. I'm glad they seem to have a good plan going forward!!! looking forward to your BFP in Dec! @roisis that's so sweet how your husbnad has been! Enjoy every minute of the pampering. @mama2b1974 - It's incredible that you and your husband have that outlook. We all have such different journeys so it's neat to be able to support each other through the process. I have everything crossed for you this weekend!!! Hoping Saturday goes well. wishing-and-hoping - I like your view on Sushi! Its so crazy how we put so many limitations on ourselves when I know my mom and her mom did none of that and we turned out just fine. That being said I am going to miss lunch meat over the next 9 months! lol. I may still do sushi but more safe fishes like you were mentioning!
ok ladies... I was trying sooo hard to wait until Saturday to POAS but this morning my husband walks by the bathroom door and was like "did you do it???" so then I had to do it. I'm 7dpt and there was a line! I'm trying not to freak out and get my hopes up too much but it's hard not to.
Me: 33 (no known issues)
DH: 33 (lower motility; 0 morphology) TTC since Oct 2013 IVF round 1 January 2016 (w/ ICSI) ER: February 17, 2016; 15 eggs retrieved, 14 mature, 11 fertilized Day 5 Blastocysts: 8 sent for PGS - 5 Normal FET date: April 12, 2016 - DS born Dec 7, 2016 IVF round 2: FET : Oct 4 - 1st Beta 188!
@Griffin5413 YES! 7dpt is when I broke down last time and tested too. So happy you got a BFP Are you going to keep testing now that you've broken the seel? @mama2b1974 Great perspective! Happy to hear you two are going strong as a couple and not letting IF damage what you have. FX for Saturday!
@Griffin5413 YAY!!!!!!!!!! our 1st BFP of the board! may the good news keep on coming for the rest of us! congratulations I'm very excited for you! so when is your 1st beta again? @roisis that's wonderful enjoying the pampering and you might get more when baby comes ! @mama2b1974 that's very sweet! I love it! meanwhile I got my fingers crossed for you for this cycle and pray that you get your new addition to your sweet family!
just updating y’all...yesterday was my first acupuncture appointment and i think i am in love lol. I went in not fully sold on the process but said hey why not what do i have to lose. Yesterday i had a headache and pain in my neck(get it a lot) all day. Told the acupuncturist about it, she hit some certain spots and holy crap left her office with no pain. I was amazed.
My acupuncturist is also a doctor of Chinese Medicine, so she also burned moxa (Chinese herb) over my stomach and feet...not sure but it’s allegedly supposed to warm the uterus and make it ready for implantation🤷🏼♀️We shall see. She also advised that I eat warm foods and drink warm drinks leading up to the transfer. She said to avoid even salads, and it would be better to eat steamed veggies. Again 🤷🏼♀️ Who knows but I’m going to give it a shot. Anyone else have the moxa treatments?
i have faith in her...because she suffered from her own fertility issues, tried to conceive with her husband for years, without success until she started using the moxa treatments and acupuncture herself and now she is 6 months pregnant. I’m hoping some of her baby juju rubs off on me.
hereforthebabies - I will probably re-test on Saturday or Sunday right before the test. babydust2507 - first beta is Sunday dreamunoz - I felt the same way about acupuncture the first time I did it. I was just figuring I would hedge all of my bets. If anything, it was super relaxing so just the stress relief itself was worth it in my book.
I haven't ever heard anything about steamed veggies. I'm gonna try to eat some of those too!
Me: 33 (no known issues)
DH: 33 (lower motility; 0 morphology) TTC since Oct 2013 IVF round 1 January 2016 (w/ ICSI) ER: February 17, 2016; 15 eggs retrieved, 14 mature, 11 fertilized Day 5 Blastocysts: 8 sent for PGS - 5 Normal FET date: April 12, 2016 - DS born Dec 7, 2016 IVF round 2: FET : Oct 4 - 1st Beta 188!
*lurking @dreamunoz Yes on warm foods! I stuck to only warm foods and warm water / drinks for at least 2 weeks at my transfer and after it. I also did the warm socks...they say, warm feet...warm uterus Best of luck to you!!
TTC #1 since April 2015 June 2016 - CP 2017 - Medicated Cycles & IUI's IVF w/ PGS - January 2018 FET #1 - April 2018 - BFN ERA Cycle May / June 2018 ERA Biopsy June 2018 ~ Results: receptive (no change) FET #2 - July 2018 - BFP Beta #1 - 137 Beta #2 - 410 U/S #1 7wk1d - HB 144 U/S #2 9w1d HB 166 Anatomy Scan 1st 11/2/18 2nd AS 11/19 EDD March 28, 2019 Baby Girl born 3/26/19
@wishing-and-hoping ack, okay, i'll try to be better at saying no to deli meat sandwhiches. sigh, i love a good club. haha but now i may explore low mercury poke options. sadly, i think tuna (my fave) is some of the highest in mercury. waaah
@dreamunoz my acupuncturist did the moxa treatment once. i've been going for almost a year, so they've done a lot of different things. mustard seeds in the ears (under a bandaid), chinese tea pills (herbs for stronger blood), and some herbal tincture for stress relief. it's hard to say if it's working, but after my second miscarriage, i had the longest aunt flow (6-7 days, when i'm normally 3-4). she said that was a good sign and that women's menses should be longer. (shrugs) also was advised to eat warm foods and bone broths (like vietnamese pho) and keep warm feet. if anything, it is helpful to take an hour out of each week to decompress. good luck with your treatments.
@dreamunoz & @kristimh80 i never heard about warm food/drinks and body 2 weeks before hand! At least i still have ~3weeks before my transfer so i can start now. And it's perfect timing because it just got cold here. But first i have to go get a Poke Bowl now because i'm starving and am now craving it--Tuna of course=my favorite.
Have you all stopped drinking as well? I didn't drink while stimming, but I have had a couple drinks before waiting to transfer. Does red wine count for a warm drink I could warm it like the Germans and their gluehwein.
Also it's Thursday!!
**Possible TW I had my followup phone call with my RE today, she made a good point: if i had done a fresh transfer they would have transferred 1 or both of the day 5 embryos and both of them were missing chromosome 16 which is a common abnormality that causes embryos to miscarriage. I'm grateful for not pushing to have the fresh transfer when originally really wanted to. end TW**
@mama2b1974 Sounds like you’re in a really great place but still sending you all sorts of positive energy for Saturday! @roisis I’ve been on the sushi/red wine train for the last few weeks. Getting it all now before that BFP! @northbeach3 YUM poke bowls! I’m originally from Hawaii (living in NJ now) so you’re speaking my language! @Griffin5413 YAY!!! FX continued BFP! @dreamunoz Acupuncture is AMAZING! I’ve used it so much for all sorts of ailments and I truly believe it works. Glad you’re without pain. @blackhottamales I’ve been having a glass of red wine here and there too. It’s “therapy” for me ☺️
AFM- day 0 blood this morning for Estrogen and progesterone. Nurse emailed me it came back and my numbers "look great" with low numbers for both (which I guess is what they want?). I continue lupron and start Estrogen pills tomorrow!
@annielmartinez - the 18th will be here before you know it!!!! @mkr_0128 yay for good numbers! @blackhottamales I like the perspective that you and your re have. It's hard to take though!
Me: 33 (no known issues)
DH: 33 (lower motility; 0 morphology) TTC since Oct 2013 IVF round 1 January 2016 (w/ ICSI) ER: February 17, 2016; 15 eggs retrieved, 14 mature, 11 fertilized Day 5 Blastocysts: 8 sent for PGS - 5 Normal FET date: April 12, 2016 - DS born Dec 7, 2016 IVF round 2: FET : Oct 4 - 1st Beta 188!
@Griffin5413 the steamed veggies were recommended instead of salads because i told her i eat a lot of salads. Her recommendation was to do cooked veggies instead because the hot food is better. And CONGRATS on the BFP!!!!! So exciting!!
@northbeach3 she also put the mustard seed things on my ear. She said it was for stress relief and when i feel stress or frustration to rub each one for 10 seconds🤷🏼♀️ I told her that the way my husband was set up, she may need to put more mustard seeds to rub lol! So far today I have had an easy day at work so haven’t had much stress to test them out.
@blackhottamales i had not heard of the hot foods before the acupuncturist said it either. In fact the only thing i had heard was pineapples were supposed to help implantation. She suggested to stay away from the pineapples because it’s a cold food. The idea is the hot food/drink will warm your uterus making it more implant friendly. Who knows, but my last transfer failed and i was drinking lots of cold drinks/foods both before and after transfer so i figure let’s try something different and hope for the best.
AFM - About warm foods and feet. I think it helps with implantation...I haven't been able to pass 5 weeks, but I had no issues with implantation and my numbers doubled beautifully! I kept my feet warm all the time and eat/drink room temperature water, fruit and veggies and warm/hot foods. Part of my pre-transfer day ritual is making a large pot of chicken soup
@blackhottamales Honestly, I didn't start the warm foods until a day or 2 before my transfer and just did them til my beta. Crazy though, after my transfer, for a couple of days I was freezing so I craved all those things! Plus sweatpants in the summer lol
TTC #1 since April 2015 June 2016 - CP 2017 - Medicated Cycles & IUI's IVF w/ PGS - January 2018 FET #1 - April 2018 - BFN ERA Cycle May / June 2018 ERA Biopsy June 2018 ~ Results: receptive (no change) FET #2 - July 2018 - BFP Beta #1 - 137 Beta #2 - 410 U/S #1 7wk1d - HB 144 U/S #2 9w1d HB 166 Anatomy Scan 1st 11/2/18 2nd AS 11/19 EDD March 28, 2019 Baby Girl born 3/26/19
@annielmartinez yay!!!! glad to hear that you're now have your FET date and everything looks good! congrats! @mkr_0128 congrats on the good numbers! let the party begin now! whoop whoop! And thank you ladies for all these tips!!! I will for sure try them!
@Griffin5413 That's fantastic!!! So happy for you @annielmartinez Yay for a confirmed date!!!! @mkr_0128 Woo-hoo for getting started I'll also be starting acu this weekend. I'm really lucky in that my best friend (a nurse for ~20 years) actually does acupunture and so insists on giving it to me for free I can't say for definite if it works or not but my 2 previous transfers did implant so I'm happy to everything as we did before. Sometimes I think it's as much a relaxing therapy session for me - getting to catch up on all the craic with her
**History in Spoiler**
Me 39, DH 40 Married Oct 2010, TTC ~7yrs Seeing RE since Spring 2013 Clomid - no response Letrozole (6 months) 2015 Laperoscopy/Hysteroscopy in 2015 Puregon injectibles + trigger x5 in 2016 - all BFN Started IVF March 2017 - 25 follies, 9 eggs, 3 fertilised, 1 survived-> frozen due to hyper stimulation of ovaries FET May 16th 2017, BFP May 27th 2017, m/c @ 9wks IVF #2 February 2018 - 16 eggs, 8 fertilised, 3 frozen embabies Awaiting FET April 2018 - cancelled (cyst) FET May 2018, BFP June 2nd 2018, m/c @ 8wks FET October 2018 - BFN Final FET - late November 2018
Good Morning IVF family....so just leaving the doctor...my lining is at 8, so I start progesterone tonight and my transfer will be on the 17th eeek!! Originally they had said somewhere around the 24th. I was also hoping to do at least one more acupuncture appointment before the transfer, but not sure I will be able to fit that in now. I’m a ball of nerves now that I know the date is right around the corner.
@roisis lucky you getting acupuncture for free!!!!! that's awesome! @dreamunoz whoop whoop! that's exciting news! and I understand the mixed feeling stress/excitement, just thing about this way, another step closer to your BFP! stay positive! FX!
@purplg8r I am sorry things didn’t work out for this month but I will be thinking great thoughts for December. It is a great month like October (the birthday month of some great people as well)
@mama2b1974 I love you and your husband’s perspective and it’s so great to be at peace with everything. For me I knew I didn’t want to think what if so although I didn’t have insurance coverage we did whatever we had to do to at least try. Fx that you get your take home baby
@northbeach3 I absolutely love sushi and would eat it everyday if I could afford to. I was introduced to poke while visiting my brother in LA this past August and love it also. I ate sushi at the beginning of my last pregnancy until almost all the way through. My MD told me it was ok as long as I was eating at a safe and reputable place and try to watch my overall mercury intake.
@dreamunoz I will also be thinking of you for successful transfer.
AFM- October 12th was my birthday and I had class all day; A work friend of mine brought cupcakes to class and I just had a low key dinner with my family. My official dinner date will be tonight! My transfer got moved up from Tuesday the 16th to Monday the 15th. That was a scare because I went in for labs on Tuesday and a US. The MD told me she saw an egg on my Left ovary and if my progesterone was high we would have to look at other options but if my progesterone was still low and my LH was increasing we would have to move things up by a day. Of course this was the case so they called me to start my PIO a day early. Well my PIO was still on its way because I thought i didn’t need it until Thursday morning. I was freaking out and had to run to the clinic after working my 12 hour nursing shift so they could give me crinone progesterone gel suppositories to take until my progesterone came in. Fortunately I took the gel that morning and my PIO came in that evening and I was able to take the shot that evening. Then on my way out to dinner last night we get half way to the restaurant and I remember I forgot to take my PIO as I have been at 6:30pm. My husband and I rush back home and I take it at 7:30pm. Again I’m freaking out until my husband reminded me the MD said I have a 2 hour window.
I was a member of a group on here with my first IVF and I can’t describe how helpful it was to have the support. At first when I thought about joining this group I worried that some people would feel awkward about me being here because I already had a successful IVF with my son four years ago, but I must tell you all that the anxiety and stress is still there and very real.
You ladies have been supportive of everyone regardless of their individual situation and while I’m still very nervous and still anxious I hope my being here serves as a reminder that a take home baby can happen. So I will fx for my transfer on Monday. I will have acupuncture right before at my clinic, have the transfer and then more acupuncture immediately following the transfer.
No matter my outcome I will be here all month supporting you ladies. I’ve even created a list to check back for those who will move to November and December. Thank you all for being so compassionate, kind, considerate and welcoming to each and every woman in this group ❤️
Married 11 years. PCOS; TTC since 2009; 3 unsuccessful IUIs; New RE. First & Hopefully Last IVF November 2013.
Re: Oct 2018 FET
I got an email from a nurse, as they couldn’t reach me by phone (dead zones in the mountains). They said the labs looked good and to start PIO right away. So, somehow I’m still on for 10/15! Did not see this as the outcome, but I’m hopeful the lining is good enough for our embryo 🙏
@babydust2507 H’s insurance covers $11,000 lifetime. My clinic said we would hit that with 3 iuis, an ER, and a transfer with maybe some going to a second if needed. I foolishly thought we would be KU in a year. I talked with insurance yesterday and there are still monitoring sessions for ER and this FET cycled that need to be processed but it looks like I’ve used around $4500 of that lifetime max. It costs about $6000 a year for me to be on H’s insurance
TTC 21 cycles
All TI cycles BFN (with letrozole, ovidrel, prometrium)
Hysteroscopy + Polypectomy + D&C on 1/3
IUI #1 February 6, BFP 2/21, CP 2/26
IUI #2 March 14, BFN
IUI #3 April 11, BFN
IUI #4 May 11, BFN
July 2018 IVF, developed lead follicle, converted to TI, BFN
August/September 2018 IVF converted to freeze-all: 7 mature eggs; we fertilized 3 and froze 4. 3/3 fertilized and 1 blast!
October 2018 FET-BFN
November 2018 FET-TBD
@purplg8r thanks for explaining and I got my fingers crossed for you, this december FET will be the one!
@hereforthebabies Woo-hoo for starting progesterone! I'm not a PIO warrior - but I'm sure you got this!!
@blackhottamales I am sooooo ready for this month to be over!
DH mentioned Christmas this morning and then immediately said he just couldn't think about it until we were through with this month and knew what was what. I think he's actually more conscious of this cycle for me than for any others - he's been incredibly sweet over the last week (bought me roses - keeps making dinner - insisting we go for sushi 'one last time' this weekend - even suggesting a relaxing mini-break!). Long may this last!
Sorry I've been a little mia this week. Had a little meltdown after starting the estrogen so took a step back, but doing better now.
So who's still in for transfer this week? It's getting hard to be sure from the progress sheet - everyone still with us?:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Hp2DYP3NKffgFo3JJkKIs8GCCKUfoa3TUWWPs_Z-IT0/edit#gid=0
Married Oct 2010, TTC ~7yrs
Seeing RE since Spring 2013
Clomid - no response
Letrozole (6 months) 2015
Laperoscopy/Hysteroscopy in 2015
Puregon injectibles + trigger x5 in 2016 - all BFN
Started IVF March 2017 - 25 follies, 9 eggs, 3 fertilised, 1 survived-> frozen due to hyper stimulation of ovaries
FET May 16th 2017, BFP May 27th 2017, m/c @ 9wks
IVF #2 February 2018 - 16 eggs, 8 fertilised, 3 frozen embabies
Awaiting FET April 2018 - cancelled (cyst)
FET May 2018, BFP June 2nd 2018, m/c @ 8wks
FET October 2018 - BFN
Final FET - late November 2018
@hereforthebabies - Yayyyy for moving forward!! So excited for you.
AFM - PIO tip: the pre-op nurse had a suggestion and its working!! I normally do heat-massage-heat, so this time I switched to massage-heat-massage and added walking. So, once DH finishes with the PIO, he massages then I put a heating pad for a couple of minutes and then I walk around the house, massaging at the same time. Its been only 4 shots but I can tell the difference on the soreness.
On a different note, I think I can say now we are ready for transfer day on Saturday! Still very very nervous, excited, anxious, scared, etc!! But since this is our last embaby, and we both have OCD personalities, DH and I had a good talk last night to go over our plans for the future.
For now, just thankful we made it to today and praying our embaby makes it through thawing and that we have a baby in 9 months. If for some reason, that is not the result, we will put the baby plan on hold for a few years, and maybe we will move closer to the beach and travel to our wish list destinations, just focus on us as a couple, and then maybe we will look into adopting a kid or an older baby (as we will be close to our 50’s).
It was a great talk, he ended up saying, we should be in peace, we have done everything, own eggs, donor eggs, surgeries, tons of needles, acupuncture, meditation, supplements, so if this one doesn’t work, there must be a different plan for us.
dx: PCOS, low progesterone; 2 MMC
Sept FET 2018 Spreadsheet
Jan 2 2018 - 1st IVF cycle - 9 retrieved, 7 mature/fertilized, 1 5d transfer + 5 untested snowbabies
Jan 19 2018 - Fresh Transfer #1 one 5dt; BFP 1/25/2018; EDD 10/7/2018; MMC at 8w3d; D&C 3/6/2018
May 16 2018 - FET #1 one 5dt; BFP with 4 betas (6.5, 24.3, 165.5, 2250) - EDD 2/1/2019; MMC at 6w; D&C 6/20/18
Sept 17 2018 - FET #2 one 5dt; BFP 38.9 7dpt, 167 9dpt - EDD 6/5/2019
(3 untested embryos remain)
@northbeach3 ALL.THE.SUSHI!!!!! (also I admittedly just had to look up what poke bowls were - looks yum - we're still not quite up on all the latest food trends over here
Married Oct 2010, TTC ~7yrs
Seeing RE since Spring 2013
Clomid - no response
Letrozole (6 months) 2015
Laperoscopy/Hysteroscopy in 2015
Puregon injectibles + trigger x5 in 2016 - all BFN
Started IVF March 2017 - 25 follies, 9 eggs, 3 fertilised, 1 survived-> frozen due to hyper stimulation of ovaries
FET May 16th 2017, BFP May 27th 2017, m/c @ 9wks
IVF #2 February 2018 - 16 eggs, 8 fertilised, 3 frozen embabies
Awaiting FET April 2018 - cancelled (cyst)
FET May 2018, BFP June 2nd 2018, m/c @ 8wks
FET October 2018 - BFN
Final FET - late November 2018
dx: PCOS, low progesterone; 2 MMC
Sept FET 2018 Spreadsheet
Jan 2 2018 - 1st IVF cycle - 9 retrieved, 7 mature/fertilized, 1 5d transfer + 5 untested snowbabies
Jan 19 2018 - Fresh Transfer #1 one 5dt; BFP 1/25/2018; EDD 10/7/2018; MMC at 8w3d; D&C 3/6/2018
May 16 2018 - FET #1 one 5dt; BFP with 4 betas (6.5, 24.3, 165.5, 2250) - EDD 2/1/2019; MMC at 6w; D&C 6/20/18
Sept 17 2018 - FET #2 one 5dt; BFP 38.9 7dpt, 167 9dpt - EDD 6/5/2019
(3 untested embryos remain)
TTC 21 cycles
All TI cycles BFN (with letrozole, ovidrel, prometrium)
Hysteroscopy + Polypectomy + D&C on 1/3
IUI #1 February 6, BFP 2/21, CP 2/26
IUI #2 March 14, BFN
IUI #3 April 11, BFN
IUI #4 May 11, BFN
July 2018 IVF, developed lead follicle, converted to TI, BFN
August/September 2018 IVF converted to freeze-all: 7 mature eggs; we fertilized 3 and froze 4. 3/3 fertilized and 1 blast!
October 2018 FET-BFN
November 2018 FET-TBD
Just wanted to send my love to @MamaK225 and @purplg8r - BFNs and cancelled cycles suck a big one. Thinking of you ladies and hoping that your recovery from this set back is swift and as painless as possible
@roisis that's so sweet how your husbnad has been! Enjoy every minute of the pampering.
@mama2b1974 - It's incredible that you and your husband have that outlook. We all have such different journeys so it's neat to be able to support each other through the process. I have everything crossed for you this weekend!!! Hoping Saturday goes well.
wishing-and-hoping - I like your view on Sushi! Its so crazy how we put so many limitations on ourselves when I know my mom and her mom did none of that and we turned out just fine. That being said I am going to miss lunch meat over the next 9 months! lol. I may still do sushi but more safe fishes like you were mentioning!
ok ladies... I was trying sooo hard to wait until Saturday to POAS but this morning my husband walks by the bathroom door and was like "did you do it???" so then I had to do it. I'm 7dpt and there was a line! I'm trying not to freak out and get my hopes up too much but it's hard not to.
TTC since Oct 2013
IVF round 1 January 2016 (w/ ICSI)
ER: February 17, 2016; 15 eggs retrieved, 14 mature, 11 fertilized
Day 5 Blastocysts: 8 sent for PGS - 5 Normal
FET date: April 12, 2016 - DS born Dec 7, 2016
IVF round 2: FET : Oct 4 - 1st Beta 188!
@mama2b1974 Great perspective! Happy to hear you two are going strong as a couple and not letting IF damage what you have. FX for Saturday!
@roisis that's wonderful enjoying the pampering and you might get more when baby comes
@mama2b1974 that's very sweet! I love it! meanwhile I got my fingers crossed for you for this cycle and pray that you get your new addition to your sweet family!
just updating y’all...yesterday was my first acupuncture appointment and i think i am in love lol. I went in not fully sold on the process but said hey why not what do i have to lose. Yesterday i had a headache and pain in my neck(get it a lot) all day. Told the acupuncturist about it, she hit some certain spots and holy crap left her office with no pain. I was amazed.
My acupuncturist is also a doctor of Chinese Medicine, so she also burned moxa (Chinese herb) over my stomach and feet...not sure but it’s allegedly supposed to warm the uterus and make it ready for implantation🤷🏼♀️We shall see. She also advised that I eat warm foods and drink warm drinks leading up to the transfer. She said to avoid even salads, and it would be better to eat steamed veggies. Again 🤷🏼♀️ Who knows but I’m going to give it a shot. Anyone else have the moxa treatments?
i have faith in her...because she suffered from her own fertility issues, tried to conceive with her husband for years, without success until she started using the moxa treatments and acupuncture herself and now she is 6 months pregnant. I’m hoping some of her baby juju rubs off on me.
babydust2507 - first beta is Sunday
dreamunoz - I felt the same way about acupuncture the first time I did it. I was just figuring I would hedge all of my bets. If anything, it was super relaxing so just the stress relief itself was worth it in my book.
I haven't ever heard anything about steamed veggies. I'm gonna try to eat some of those too!
TTC since Oct 2013
IVF round 1 January 2016 (w/ ICSI)
ER: February 17, 2016; 15 eggs retrieved, 14 mature, 11 fertilized
Day 5 Blastocysts: 8 sent for PGS - 5 Normal
FET date: April 12, 2016 - DS born Dec 7, 2016
IVF round 2: FET : Oct 4 - 1st Beta 188!
June 2016 - CP
2017 - Medicated Cycles & IUI's
IVF w/ PGS - January 2018
FET #1 - April 2018 - BFN
ERA Cycle May / June 2018
ERA Biopsy June 2018 ~ Results: receptive (no change)
FET #2 - July 2018 - BFP
U/S #1 7wk1d - HB 144 U/S #2 9w1d HB 166
Anatomy Scan 1st 11/2/18 2nd AS 11/19
EDD March 28, 2019
Baby Girl born 3/26/19
@dreamunoz my acupuncturist did the moxa treatment once. i've been going for almost a year, so they've done a lot of different things. mustard seeds in the ears (under a bandaid), chinese tea pills (herbs for stronger blood), and some herbal tincture for stress relief. it's hard to say if it's working, but after my second miscarriage, i had the longest aunt flow (6-7 days, when i'm normally 3-4). she said that was a good sign and that women's menses should be longer. (shrugs) also was advised to eat warm foods and bone broths (like vietnamese pho) and keep warm feet. if anything, it is helpful to take an hour out of each week to decompress. good luck with your treatments.
dx: PCOS, low progesterone; 2 MMC
Sept FET 2018 Spreadsheet
Jan 2 2018 - 1st IVF cycle - 9 retrieved, 7 mature/fertilized, 1 5d transfer + 5 untested snowbabies
Jan 19 2018 - Fresh Transfer #1 one 5dt; BFP 1/25/2018; EDD 10/7/2018; MMC at 8w3d; D&C 3/6/2018
May 16 2018 - FET #1 one 5dt; BFP with 4 betas (6.5, 24.3, 165.5, 2250) - EDD 2/1/2019; MMC at 6w; D&C 6/20/18
Sept 17 2018 - FET #2 one 5dt; BFP 38.9 7dpt, 167 9dpt - EDD 6/5/2019
(3 untested embryos remain)
Have you all stopped drinking as well? I didn't drink while stimming, but I have had a couple drinks before waiting to transfer. Does red wine count for a warm drink
Also it's Thursday!!
**Possible TW
I had my followup phone call with my RE today, she made a good point: if i had done a fresh transfer they would have transferred 1 or both of the day 5 embryos and both of them were missing chromosome 16 which is a common abnormality that causes embryos to miscarriage. I'm grateful for not pushing to have the fresh transfer when originally really wanted to. end TW**
@roisis I’ve been on the sushi/red wine train for the last few weeks. Getting it all now before that BFP!
@northbeach3 YUM poke bowls! I’m originally from Hawaii (living in NJ now) so you’re speaking my language!
@Griffin5413 YAY!!! FX continued BFP!
@dreamunoz Acupuncture is AMAZING! I’ve used it so much for all sorts of ailments and I truly believe it works. Glad you’re without pain.
@blackhottamales I’ve been having a glass of red wine here and there too. It’s “therapy” for me ☺️
AFM- day 0 blood this morning for Estrogen and progesterone. Nurse emailed me it came back and my numbers "look great" with low numbers for both (which I guess is what they want?). I continue lupron and start Estrogen pills tomorrow!
@mkr_0128 It's really starting! Wonderful
@mkr_0128 yay for good numbers!
@blackhottamales I like the perspective that you and your re have. It's hard to take though!
TTC since Oct 2013
IVF round 1 January 2016 (w/ ICSI)
ER: February 17, 2016; 15 eggs retrieved, 14 mature, 11 fertilized
Day 5 Blastocysts: 8 sent for PGS - 5 Normal
FET date: April 12, 2016 - DS born Dec 7, 2016
IVF round 2: FET : Oct 4 - 1st Beta 188!
@northbeach3 she also put the mustard seed things on my ear. She said it was for stress relief and when i feel stress or frustration to rub each one for 10 seconds🤷🏼♀️ I told her that the way my husband was set up, she may need to put more mustard seeds to rub lol! So far today I have had an easy day at work so haven’t had much stress to test them out.
@blackhottamales i had not heard of the hot foods before the acupuncturist said it either. In fact the only thing i had heard was pineapples were supposed to help implantation. She suggested to stay away from the pineapples because it’s a cold food. The idea is the hot food/drink will warm your uterus making it more implant friendly. Who knows, but my last transfer failed and i was drinking lots of cold drinks/foods both before and after transfer so i figure let’s try something different and hope for the best.
@annielmartinez - woohoo on having your transfer date confirmed
AFM - About warm foods and feet. I think it helps with implantation...I haven't been able to pass 5 weeks, but I had no issues with implantation and my numbers doubled beautifully! I kept my feet warm all the time and eat/drink room temperature water, fruit and veggies and warm/hot foods. Part of my pre-transfer day ritual is making a large pot of chicken soup
June 2016 - CP
2017 - Medicated Cycles & IUI's
IVF w/ PGS - January 2018
FET #1 - April 2018 - BFN
ERA Cycle May / June 2018
ERA Biopsy June 2018 ~ Results: receptive (no change)
FET #2 - July 2018 - BFP
U/S #1 7wk1d - HB 144 U/S #2 9w1d HB 166
Anatomy Scan 1st 11/2/18 2nd AS 11/19
EDD March 28, 2019
Baby Girl born 3/26/19
@mkr_0128 congrats on the good numbers! let the party begin now! whoop whoop!
And thank you ladies for all these tips!!! I will for sure try them!
I’m glad you all reminded me of the warm foods, gonna get back to that!
@annielmartinez Yay for a confirmed date!!!!
@mkr_0128 Woo-hoo for getting started
I'll also be starting acu this weekend. I'm really lucky in that my best friend (a nurse for ~20 years) actually does acupunture and so insists on giving it to me for free
Married Oct 2010, TTC ~7yrs
Seeing RE since Spring 2013
Clomid - no response
Letrozole (6 months) 2015
Laperoscopy/Hysteroscopy in 2015
Puregon injectibles + trigger x5 in 2016 - all BFN
Started IVF March 2017 - 25 follies, 9 eggs, 3 fertilised, 1 survived-> frozen due to hyper stimulation of ovaries
FET May 16th 2017, BFP May 27th 2017, m/c @ 9wks
IVF #2 February 2018 - 16 eggs, 8 fertilised, 3 frozen embabies
Awaiting FET April 2018 - cancelled (cyst)
FET May 2018, BFP June 2nd 2018, m/c @ 8wks
FET October 2018 - BFN
Final FET - late November 2018
@dreamunoz ahhhhh congrats on your date!!
@dreamunoz whoop whoop! that's exciting news! and I understand the mixed feeling stress/excitement, just thing about this way, another step closer to your BFP! stay positive! FX!
I’ve been catching up on all the post.
@purplg8r I am sorry things didn’t work out for this month but I will be thinking great thoughts for December. It is a great month like October (the birthday month of some great people as well)
@Griffin5413 congratulations on your BFP!!
@annielmartinez Fx for a successful transfer in the 18th
@mama2b1974 I love you and your husband’s perspective and it’s so great to be at peace with everything. For me I knew I didn’t want to think what if so although I didn’t have insurance coverage we did whatever we had to do to at least try. Fx that you get your take home baby
@northbeach3 I absolutely love sushi and would eat it everyday if I could afford to. I was introduced to poke while visiting my brother in LA this past August and love it also. I ate sushi at the beginning of my last pregnancy until almost all the way through. My MD told me it was ok as long as I was eating at a safe and reputable place and try to watch my overall mercury intake.
@dreamunoz I will also be thinking of you for successful transfer.
AFM- October 12th was my birthday and I had class all day; A work friend of mine brought cupcakes to class and I just had a low key dinner with my family. My official dinner date will be tonight! My transfer got moved up from Tuesday the 16th to Monday the 15th. That was a scare because I went in for labs on Tuesday and a US. The MD told me she saw an egg on my Left ovary and if my progesterone was high we would have to look at other options but if my progesterone was still low and my LH was increasing we would have to move things up by a day. Of course this was the case so they called me to start my PIO a day early. Well my PIO was still on its way because I thought i didn’t need it until Thursday morning. I was freaking out and had to run to the clinic after working my 12 hour nursing shift so they could give me crinone progesterone gel suppositories to take until my progesterone came in. Fortunately I took the gel that morning and my PIO came in that evening and I was able to take the shot that evening. Then on my way out to dinner last night we get half way to the restaurant and I remember I forgot to take my PIO as I have been at 6:30pm. My husband and I rush back home and I take it at 7:30pm. Again I’m freaking out until my husband reminded me the MD said I have a 2 hour window.
I was a member of a group on here with my first IVF and I can’t describe how helpful it was to have the support. At first when I thought about joining this group I worried that some people would feel awkward about me being here because I already had a successful IVF with my son four years ago, but I must tell you all that the anxiety and stress is still there and very real.
You ladies have been supportive of everyone regardless of their individual situation and while I’m still very nervous and still anxious I hope my being here serves as a reminder that a take home baby can happen. So I will fx for my transfer on Monday. I will have acupuncture right before at my clinic, have the transfer and then more acupuncture immediately following the transfer.
No matter my outcome I will be here all month supporting you ladies. I’ve even created a list to check back for those who will move to November and December. Thank you all for being so compassionate, kind, considerate and welcoming to each and every woman in this group ❤️
Married 11 years. PCOS; TTC since 2009; 3 unsuccessful IUIs;
New RE. First & Hopefully Last IVF November 2013.