All you team green ladies have pretty much convinced me to join you! I was on the fence before. I am doing a nursery in a pretty gender neutral theme anyway so it won't matter on that end. I talked to DH last night and he said he didn't have strong feelings either way so we can do whatever I want.
We’re going Team Green this time round. We found out last time but this time want to keep the surprise until we get to meet our little one. I can see myself being very tempted at the 20 week scan but will try to stay strong.
Im already fed up with people asking ‘are you hoping for a girl’ etc because I have a DS and there are 4 other boys in the family and no girls, drives me crazy that people assume that it would be almost a disappointment to have another boy.
We were team green with our first and thinking of doing it again. We picked red and grey tones. If it was a girl spruce it up with ladybugs or roses/flowers etc. if a boy there are tons of options too. We had a girl and went with roses. you don't have to stick to yellow/green.
Then for names we picked two and had the names printed out on two different baby hats (super cheep and personalized), so we were prepared either way loved it.
@serenbach I have three girls. My sister has three girls. And my SO’s brother has three girls. I’ve heard all about the OH I HOPE YOU FINALLY GET A BOY. Uh, I truly don’t care and secretly hope for a girl because it will throw everyone in a tizzy. Again.
I think someone else mentioned this rationale as well but for us this will be our last baby and my husband really wants a girl and I think it will be better to give him time to adjust if it's another boy.
Bit of backstory my husband and his sister are 12 years apart so he basically helped raise her and they are super close. My son is a mama's boy so I think he'd hoping he'll find that closeness with a daughter.
We were team green last time and I LOVED it. DH wanted to find out and wants to find out again this time (though he admits it was fun being surprised). We will probably find out this time, since we got to go with my preference first time around.
I think someone else mentioned this rationale as well but for us this will be our last baby and my husband really wants a girl and I think it will be better to give him time to adjust if it's another boy.
Bit of backstory my husband and his sister are 12 years apart so he basically helped raise her and they are super close. My son is a mama's boy so I think he'd hoping he'll find that closeness with a daughter.
Your oldest will need daddy more when baby #2 comes along. And they’ll form a better bond. I am always so busy nursing the next one, the older ones have to turn to dad and they finally find their tempo.
I know it can be discouraging now but those bonds will come.
I'm at 8 weeks and 4 days. Had my ultrasound and the heart rate was 183. I've heard there's a correlation between high heart rates and girls. Has anyone found this to be true?
Very surprised there are so many team greens! This is my first and I absolutely cant wait to know the gender!! I just want to start calling my little person by their name as soon as i can. I want them to hear my voice saying their name while they're in their cozy palace. I want to make them things with their name on it, i want to be prepared (i already have so much gender neutral stuff because my mom is insane with the baby clothes and ive told her neutral so far) but neutral is totally boring. I want to know. As for the "genitals dont determine color preference" comment, you dont know your baby likes green, yellow, or gray chevrons either, we decorate because it is our preference and baby will be happy with what ever we choose as long as it is done with love.
Very surprised there are so many team greens! This is my first and I absolutely cant wait to know the gender!! I just want to start calling my little person by their name as soon as i can. I want them to hear my voice saying their name while they're in their cozy palace. I want to make them things with their name on it, i want to be prepared (i already have so much gender neutral stuff because my mom is insane with the baby clothes and ive told her neutral so far) but neutral is totally boring. I want to know. As for the "genitals dont determine color preference" comment, you dont know your baby likes green, yellow, or gray chevrons either, we decorate because it is our preference and baby will be happy with what ever we choose as long as it is done with love.
Hi! Welcome to our little corner of the Internet. If you would, please intro on the Introductions thread and change your knottiename at the knot so we can get to know you!
Also, I'm going to be "that person" but sex and gender are very different things. You will find out the sex of your baby either through first trimester screening, the anatomy scan or birth. Gender will be identified when the child is old enough to make that decision on his / her own. And some people might think the distinction isn't a big deal but it really is. Words have meaning and that is important.
Sorry i must be "old fashioned" these days but i am going to have to disagree. I really don't think this is a place for politics. I dont think saying "regardless of what color you choose as long as you decorate with love that your child is going to like what ever it is" is a reason to lecture me about the difference between sex and gender. I don't care. And that says nothing about how much i love my child or how happy they will be growing up or how well adjusted they will turn out. Children turn out well when they are loved, not merely because they played with gender neutral toys. Let's put the focus here back on love.
Sorry i must be "old fashioned" these days but i am going to have to disagree. I really don't think this is a place for politics. I dont think saying "regardless of what color you choose as long as you decorate with love that your child is going to like what ever it is" is a reason to lecture me about the difference between sex and gender. I don't care. And that says nothing about how much i love my child or how happy they will be growing up or how well adjusted they will turn out. Children turn out well when they are loved, not merely because they played with gender neutral toys. Let's put the focus here back on love.
Uh nobody said that you couldn’t use specific colors. Just brought up the point that sex is the physical anatomy of your baby - which you will learn and share, and gender is a mental construct that could change as your baby gets older. I don’t think anyone here doesn’t love their babies.
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I still disagree. Sex has more to do with anatomy and physiology (a subject i am well versed in) than merely genitals. It has to do with hormones as well. Hormones tell every cell in our body what to do, and even act as neurotransmitters. They determine what our personality will be like. My mind is not changed.
@hardlyhannah said it beautifully. What we are saying is that the words you are using have a different meaning than how you are using them. Look - call yourself "old fashioned" all you want but there is a loooong history of words being used inappropriately and offensively until someone (or a group) came together and said that we can do better. We can use words appropriately and correctly so as not to offend someone. Why would you not want to avoid offending a large group of people by simply using a word correctly for the meaning that you are intending?
That is just not a valid argument. If youre so offended get off the internet. Stress negatively affects babies and it isnt my opinion's fault or the fault of the facts backing it that you are still trying to change my mind. If you continue to stress yourself out by kicking a dead horse, that is your own fault. My mind will not be changed and i am perfectly happy and at peace with that.
I still disagree. Sex has more to do with anatomy and physiology (a subject i am well versed in) than merely genitals. It has to do with hormones as well. Hormones tell every cell in our body what to do, and even act as neurotransmitters. They determine what our personality will be like. My mind is not changed.
The fact that the words mean different things is not a matter of opinion or politics. Sex is biological, gender is social/cultural and has nothing to do with biology. They are both a part of life, but they aren’t the same. Yeah, most people default to gender norms based on biological sex. There isn’t anything inherently wrong with that, but there is a difference.
I still disagree. Sex has more to do with anatomy and physiology (a subject i am well versed in) than merely genitals. It has to do with hormones as well. Hormones tell every cell in our body what to do, and even act as neurotransmitters. They determine what our personality will be like. My mind is not changed.
The fact that the words mean different things is not a matter of opinion or politics. Sex is biological, gender is social/cultural and has nothing to do with biology. They are both a part of life, but they aren’t the same. Yeah, most people default to gender norms based on biological sex. There isn’t anything inherently wrong with that, but there is a difference.
I was just coming back to amend my statement because it’s not just physical anatomy, sex being biological is more accurate.
I still stand by gender being mental, and I think social/cultural are good add ons.
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I notice the point about hormones i brought forth was completely ignored. Because science and statistics often are ignored or warped to suit political agendas these days unfortuntely. Facts cant be argued with but feelings always can. There's an awful echo in here. Have a magnificent life.
I notice the point about hormones i brought forth was completely ignored. Because science and statistics often are ignored or warped to suit political agendas these days unfortuntely. Facts cant be argued with but feelings always can. There's an awful echo in here. Have a magnificent life.
No, hormones are a part of biology, and are part of what determines sex. No one is arguing that. We’re arguing the semantics of the word gender. Gender and sex are not synonyms. Why is that so hard to understand? It has nothing to do with politics!
That is just not a valid argument. If youre so offended get off the internet. Stress negatively affects babies and it isnt my opinion's fault or the fault of the facts backing it that you are still trying to change my mind. If you continue to stress yourself out by kicking a dead horse, that is your own fault. My mind will not be changed and i am perfectly happy and at peace with that.
I just saw this because it was posted while I was commenting. I almost lost my eyes when they rolled into the back of my head.
@legallykate I don’t think knottie really even had an opinion. Knottie is just mad they were corrected.
That is just not a valid argument. If youre so offended get off the internet. Stress negatively affects babies and it isnt my opinion's fault or the fault of the facts backing it that you are still trying to change my mind. If you continue to stress yourself out by kicking a dead horse, that is your own fault. My mind will not be changed and i am perfectly happy and at peace with that.
WTF?? Implying women here are somehow harming their unborn by correcting your wrong terminology? Girl go change your knottie name so I can put you on a post it. I work with transgender individuals daily, I'd love for you to come and tell them they're wrong about it all. JFC.
@lalala2004 Crushing this argument with your dictionary facts. Look knottie person who can't be tagged. Update your screen name in The Knot, log out and log back in, then we can have a real conversation about your view on whatever. Until then, you're just a random knottie to us.
For someone who is "well versed" on the topic, you should probably pick up a book and reeducate yourself. You've even clearly contradicted yourself.
You are using the two terms interchangeably when they have two separate meanings. No one is trying to change your mind, just help you understand the difference.
Chiming in here, wanting to just reflect on some information for anyone who is open to educating themselves on the differences between gender and sex. It's not actually a topic open for discussion as some people seem to think. I would encourage everyone to head on over to The World Health Organizations webpage with very helpful information! ---------> https://www.who.int/genomics/gender/en/index1.html It's important to remember that gender is a social construct, and regardless of one's personal, political or spiritual beliefs that is not up for debate. I appreciate that sometimes it's easy to get sex and gender confused if you're not educated on the definitions, but I assure you you'll sound a heck of a lot more intelligent if you learn to differentiate them. Going to just add this quote regarding gender.
"Gender, typically described in terms of masculinity and femininity, is a social construction that varies across different cultures and over time. (6) There are a number of cultures, for example, in which greater gender diversity exists and sex and gender are not always neatly divided along binary lines such as male and female or homosexual and heterosexual" (WHO, 2016).
ALSO, team green because Its gonna be the greatest surprise ever, and I really enjoy making type A persons freak when I tell them we won't be finding out
Omg I am so lame I replied to earlier topic before I saw the knottie woman made a stink about being corrected. So then I’m scrolling through reading what all you rad women had to say about gender and sex meaning two different things, and then I come across my lame comment, “that palm bedding at pottery barn is so cute.” SMH. Anyways well done ladies
Re: It’s a BOY / GIRL!
Im already fed up with people asking ‘are you hoping for a girl’ etc because I have a DS and there are 4 other boys in the family and no girls, drives me crazy that people assume that it would be almost a disappointment to have another boy.
Then for names we picked two and had the names printed out on two different baby hats (super cheep and personalized), so we were prepared either way
Bit of backstory my husband and his sister are 12 years apart so he basically helped raise her and they are super close. My son is a mama's boy so I think he'd hoping he'll find that closeness with a daughter.
I know it can be discouraging now but those bonds will come.
Also, I'm going to be "that person" but sex and gender are very different things. You will find out the sex of your baby either through first trimester screening, the anatomy scan or birth. Gender will be identified when the child is old enough to make that decision on his / her own. And some people might think the distinction isn't a big deal but it really is. Words have meaning and that is important.
Again, welcome!
Me: 37 Him: 38
Married 11.07.2015
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Married: 6/2016
TTC #1: 12/2016
Benched due to deployment- Off the bench 8/8/17!
Me: 37 Him: 38
Married 11.07.2015
I still stand by gender being mental, and I think social/cultural are good add ons.
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So obviously they are related, but not the exact same thing.
I'm just going to leave this here...
Me: 37 Him: 38
Married 11.07.2015
knottiecd477ba167e83d10 said:
But then Knottie is also denying that there is a difference between sex and gender? I am so confused.
Me: 37, MH: 38; Married August 2017
TTC #1 October 2017: BFP on 12/1/2017, DD born 7/24/2018 @ 37+1 after induction due to preeclampsia
TTC #2 January 2020: AMA, dx with DOR in May 2020
IVF July 2020: 16 eggs retrieved, 14 mature, 12 fertilized, 3 blasts, 2 PGT-A normal
FET 10/7/20: BFP on 10/12/20!!! (EDD 6/25/21); First beta 10/16/20 (9dpt): 148; Second beta 10/19/20 (12dpt): 621; Third beta 10/26/20 (19dpt): 4732; Fourth (and final!) beta 11/2/20 (26 dpt): 22,000+
@legallykate I don’t think knottie really even had an opinion. Knottie is just mad they were corrected.
Me: 37, MH: 38; Married August 2017
TTC #1 October 2017: BFP on 12/1/2017, DD born 7/24/2018 @ 37+1 after induction due to preeclampsia
TTC #2 January 2020: AMA, dx with DOR in May 2020
IVF July 2020: 16 eggs retrieved, 14 mature, 12 fertilized, 3 blasts, 2 PGT-A normal
FET 10/7/20: BFP on 10/12/20!!! (EDD 6/25/21); First beta 10/16/20 (9dpt): 148; Second beta 10/19/20 (12dpt): 621; Third beta 10/26/20 (19dpt): 4732; Fourth (and final!) beta 11/2/20 (26 dpt): 22,000+
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Married 9/28/13
DS born 11/12/15
EDD 8/13/18
You are using the two terms interchangeably when they have two separate meanings. No one is trying to change your mind, just help you understand the difference.
For your wit, knowledge bomb-dropping and general smartypants-ness
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Me: 37 Him: 38
Married 11.07.2015
It's important to remember that gender is a social construct, and regardless of one's personal, political or spiritual beliefs that is not up for debate. I appreciate that sometimes it's easy to get sex and gender confused if you're not educated on the definitions, but I assure you you'll sound a heck of a lot more intelligent if you learn to differentiate them. Going to just add this quote regarding gender.
"Gender, typically described in terms of masculinity and femininity, is a social construction that varies across different cultures and over time. (6) There are a number of cultures, for example, in which greater gender diversity exists and sex and gender are not always neatly divided along binary lines such as male and female or homosexual and heterosexual" (WHO, 2016).
ALSO, team green because Its gonna be the greatest surprise ever, and I really enjoy making type A persons freak when I tell them we won't be finding out
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So then I’m scrolling through reading what all you rad women had to say about gender and sex meaning two different things, and then I come across my lame comment, “that palm bedding at pottery barn is so cute.” SMH. Anyways well done ladies