@BusinessWife The protocol for triggers definitely vary. I did a 40 unit Lupron trigger and went in the following morning for blood work to see if it worked. They had already decided to do a freeze all due to OHSS risk so no hcg booster. Morning of trigger my P4 was 1.5 and estrodial over 4300.
They only retrieved half the number of expected eggs so I do wonder if the Lupron trigger alone was enough to complete the final maturation process on all the follicles.
Melissa 39 - DH 45 TTC # 1 - 4 years, 7 IUIs, 3 IVF, 1 FET, 2 M/C, DD 2015 TTC # 2 - IVF # 4 March 2017 Long Lupron, 150 Gonal F, 150 Menopur 21R, 12M, 7F, Transferred 2 Froze 1 - BFN FET # 2 May 2017 - BFN IVF # 5 Sep 2017 - Antagonist, no BCP. 200 iu Follistim, 150 iu Menopur, Cetrotide started day 5, Lupron trigger 19R, 13M, 12F, No Transfer - 2 "beautiful" blasts frozen FET # 3 Nov 2017
@sunnyrain2. I am sorry to hear you didn't get the results out of that cycle you were hoping for. Mine had actually switched me from just the HCG trigger to dual, she said to help prevent ohss. But I have also read some research (linked on page 7 or 8 I believe, of the July/August thread) that the dual trigger can yield better birth outcomes!! But I'm not sure better than what - I would have to re read, but i think it was compared to hcg alone, not to lupron alone. :/ some were even just 1,000 hcg+ lupron, so somehow even a "micro dose" of hcg in there is supposed to be beneficial? Maybe worth looking into, but I know so little about this stuff. I am just hoping my doctor knows what's best for me! :#
@krenee124 Good, I'm so glad you called them! Let us know what they say. Mine was an IUI cycle w/ stims so I paid for follistim (which is expensive) but not NEARLY as much as what you would have to buy/put your body through for an IVF cycle and waste so I think your strategy above is sound. Good luck!!
Me 32 DH 36, Married 12/2013, TTC Since 9/2015 Diagnosis: Unexplained 2 IVFs, 8 IUIs (2 Clomid, 6 Injectables)
Nov '16: TI Clomid- 2 Follicles, BFN
Dec '17: IUI Clomid- 1 Follicle, BFN
Jan '17: TI Clomid - 1 Follicle, BFN
Feb '17: IUI Clomid - 1Follicle, BFN
Mar '17: IUI Inject - Canceled (Cyst)
Jun '17: IVF Antagonist, 13ER, 10Fert (5ICSI, 5Nat) - No Blasts, 1 D5T, BFN
I had my morning monitoring and second part of trigger - the doctor said when I pressed a bit, we should get 5 mature, hopefully more.
<span>5?????? We had 10 last time! And only ended up with 3 to freeze. I sure hope we get more than 5 mature, bc at that rate, we might MAYBE just get one or two more out of an entire second cycle???? I mean don't get me wrong, 4 or 5 frosties to try would be 100% miraculous!! And really 5-7 is about what I think we would feel comfortable with in terms of eventually transferring them all. I guess I was just assuming this cycle would be about the same or </span>better<span> than the first one, not worse. </span><img alt="" src="https://forums.thebump.com/resources/emoji/confused.png" height="20"><span> i.e. 6-7 total. So anyway, just trying not to let it get me down too much, bc the truth is she really doesn't know, and we'll find out whenever we get the fert report. I can't remember if it was later that same day? Or the next? But it's gonna be what its gonna be, and we'll find out soon enough...</span>
Oh hallelujah. Just talked to my dr, we apparently have a bit of an egg quality issue. 9 retrieved, 3 immature, 2/6 left were abnormal. That being said though, 3/4 fertilized and have begun dividing. So tomorrow morning we'll be transferring the 2 best. Hoping the 3rd will stay healthy enough we can freeze it. But either way, as long as they stay healthy through today we'll be transferring tomorrow! Wasn't expecting a 3 day transfer but I can't lie and say I'm not so excited to be PUPO come tomorrow!
Me & DH: 28 | TTC since May 2016 | DH: Morphology 0% | 2 IUI's with Clomid - BFN | IVF ICSI Sept. 2017
I just got the Fert report - of the 15 retrieved, 10 were mature. They did ICSI on all 10 and 8 fertilized. I find out on the 28th how many made it to the blast phase.
@rainbows2018 congrats!!!! Those numbers are great!!!! Are you doing fresh or frozen transfer after?
Me 30, DH 39 TTC since Aug 2015, BFP Apr 2017 - late diagnosed EP, right tube removed, left tube scarred. Dx: tubal IF IVF Sept 2017, 7 R, 6M, 6F- 4 blasts, 1 transferred fresh - CP FET #1 Dec 2017- BFN FET #2 Jan 2018- CP FET #3 BFP!!! EDD 12/15/2018!
@buisnesswife I know exactly how you feel! That's why I was having a breakdown earlier in the week which you were so great in supporting me. It's so hard when you think that with your second cycle you will have better numbers and then it doesn't work out that way. I'll say this, you may be surprised by how many they retrieve. They got more eggs than the number of follicles I thought I had, and same with @rainbows2018! Also quality over quantity and your eggs still have time to grow between trigger and retrieval.
loverin we are numbers buddies! Mine was the same, two transferred D3 and hoping for the best for the remaining one to freeze! FX lady! How Is your body feeling today? Recovering quickly? I actually didn't find D3 much more painful then D5 so hopefully you have the same experience tomorrow. Heating pad before the transfer definitely helped!!! Thinking of you tomorrow!
@rainbows2018 yay for those numbers! Great work getting fertilized, egg babies!!
Me 32 DH 36, Married 12/2013, TTC Since 9/2015 Diagnosis: Unexplained 2 IVFs, 8 IUIs (2 Clomid, 6 Injectables)
Nov '16: TI Clomid- 2 Follicles, BFN
Dec '17: IUI Clomid- 1 Follicle, BFN
Jan '17: TI Clomid - 1 Follicle, BFN
Feb '17: IUI Clomid - 1Follicle, BFN
Mar '17: IUI Inject - Canceled (Cyst)
Jun '17: IVF Antagonist, 13ER, 10Fert (5ICSI, 5Nat) - No Blasts, 1 D5T, BFN
*beep! beep! beep!* WIDE LOAD, COMING THROUGH just back from transferring and ALL 4 looked pretty great! 16cell 10cell 9cell 7cell
Now to just wait.... so that makes me #4 to the PUPO club? or #5? Who is next up for retrieval (we don't have a file going for this group do we? I think it is @BusinessWife) ?? Good luck ladies and I'm sending AAAALLLLLLL the sticky vibes and good growth vibes to everyone on the thread!
Here are our lil bubbuhs (assisted hatching seen very clearly on the third down, and our fast runner 16cell at the top):
@cmiller73 Congratulations!!!! Yes, I am tomorrow morning!!! So excited, and on my way to a nice massage now... ;)
@loverin. I don't know. Maybe she was trying to be conservative? Discrepancies in different people counting from one day to the next? I'm going to try not to worry about it and just hope for the best...
@cmiller73 Yey! I am so excited for you! our pupo club is growing!!!! Your embryous are so cute! ( people who don't go through IVF will never understand how a cluster of cells can make you emotional)
@ businesswife during my entire cycle nobody ever discussed my bloodwork results with me so I don't even know what my levels were. @ loverin we are excited to welcome you to pupo club tomorrow! Were you planning to transfer two from the beginning or is it a new development? Fingers crossed you get to freeze the third one as well!
AFM , I found myself driving in circles around a pharmacy talking myself out of buying a hpt. ( DH confiscated my secret stash of hpts on the day of our transfer) Sanity won this battle and I did not go in. But I am dying to test and terrified to tears at the same time. We are 5dp5dt. It will be a long wait to Friday!
Me 30, DH 39 TTC since Aug 2015, BFP Apr 2017 - late diagnosed EP, right tube removed, left tube scarred. Dx: tubal IF IVF Sept 2017, 7 R, 6M, 6F- 4 blasts, 1 transferred fresh - CP FET #1 Dec 2017- BFN FET #2 Jan 2018- CP FET #3 BFP!!! EDD 12/15/2018!
DecemberDoll27 did you transfer on the 18th? Sounds like you could certainly be on your way to a BFP! I did an FET on the 18th and I'm hella nervous to test!
krenee124 glad to see you're back in the game, good luck hope u get a bunch to transfer.
@cmiller73 u r the reason that made me pop in sorry to see how crazy ER was my goodness! Glad they think your healing well and ready for a fresh transfer. I know its a tough situation for sure but I think its great to give it a whirl! i think some embabies just do better inside of us! AND yes I wish I had time to not to pgs and transfer all my pumpkins and have a football team PGS is not 100% and there are always new articles about testing and how its not spot on. You have to take it for what it is. I will always look at the ladies who were fortunate enough to transfer abnormal embryos...and still have healthy babies to show...its not common BUT it does happen! You are PUPO!!!! whoo hoo so excited for you and with 4 lovely embabies really looking great and ahead of the game thats awesome. Sending you super sticky vibes!!
@cxsimo08 I think i saw you talking about supplements double check with your RE. I was taking everything under the sun BUT once PUPO they had me stop all the extras.
@artemis618 good luck lady hope you get a whole bunch of golden eggs!!
History of TTC in spoiler box
TTC since 2014 Unexplained Infertility - but I am 40...Low AMH .30 7 - IUI (50mg-150mg Clomid) Feb - August 2016 all BFN IVF#1 August 2016 (Antagonist protocol 4/5 eggs) Cancelled cycle RE thought I would get at least 10. IVF#2 Sept 2016 (microdose luporn pro - disappearing follies, ONLY ONE, convert to IUI) BFN IVF#3 November 2016 (4 ER, 3 F, 3DT)-BFP with TWINS // MC both at almost 10wks IVF#4 March 2017 //EPP (10 ER (1 wonky so 9 ER) 7F, 3B (5AB, (2)5BB) PGS tested- ALL abnormal IVF#5 April 2017 // EPP (7 ER, 7F yes! 6B) 2/5 day 4/6 day - 2 PGS normal! yes!! IVF#6 May 2017 // Antagonist didn't have time for Estrogen Priming...(4 ER, 3 F, 3B) (5AB, (2) 5BB) 2 PGS normal, yes!! IVF#7 June 2017 // EPP praying this is it and then on to an FET!
@hopefulmom yep I transfere on the 18th so we are transfer buddies. I've been lurking in other threads so I am familiar with your story. How many did you transfer? Do you have any symptoms? My boobs have been sore sinse the ER so I think it is just progesteron, and I have AF like cramps on and off sinse the night after transfer. *TW with my EP in May I had gagging, sore boobs and cramping too but I am afraid to be super hopeful end TW* your beta is on Wed, right? I will have to wait till Friday, my RE is conservative like that. Fingers crossed we all get bfp's soon!
Me 30, DH 39 TTC since Aug 2015, BFP Apr 2017 - late diagnosed EP, right tube removed, left tube scarred. Dx: tubal IF IVF Sept 2017, 7 R, 6M, 6F- 4 blasts, 1 transferred fresh - CP FET #1 Dec 2017- BFN FET #2 Jan 2018- CP FET #3 BFP!!! EDD 12/15/2018!
DecemberDoll27 my beta is wed and i have to say all of your symptoms as few as they might be BUT what you describe actually sound very promising!! Its hard for me as the first time around I got my bfp with twins so all my "symptoms" were more intense...so I keep trying to remind myself of that. Only transferred one as my OH was not letting me do more (TW since we lost both at 10wks for no reason TW over). I really couldn't argue with him on this point AND I don't have as many normies to play with so hoping this one will be happy to have the place all to itself
History of TTC in spoiler box
TTC since 2014 Unexplained Infertility - but I am 40...Low AMH .30 7 - IUI (50mg-150mg Clomid) Feb - August 2016 all BFN IVF#1 August 2016 (Antagonist protocol 4/5 eggs) Cancelled cycle RE thought I would get at least 10. IVF#2 Sept 2016 (microdose luporn pro - disappearing follies, ONLY ONE, convert to IUI) BFN IVF#3 November 2016 (4 ER, 3 F, 3DT)-BFP with TWINS // MC both at almost 10wks IVF#4 March 2017 //EPP (10 ER (1 wonky so 9 ER) 7F, 3B (5AB, (2)5BB) PGS tested- ALL abnormal IVF#5 April 2017 // EPP (7 ER, 7F yes! 6B) 2/5 day 4/6 day - 2 PGS normal! yes!! IVF#6 May 2017 // Antagonist didn't have time for Estrogen Priming...(4 ER, 3 F, 3B) (5AB, (2) 5BB) 2 PGS normal, yes!! IVF#7 June 2017 // EPP praying this is it and then on to an FET!
Sorry for being MIA Saturday! Missed our PUPO club growing it seems!!! We had a party at our house, with friends to celebrate our birthdays, as mine was a week last Friday and DH's was this last Friday. We always have one the Saturday after our birthdays, and this time we had already invited for it (as some people travel from hours away) before we got our IVF schedule, then decided in the end it would be a good distraction whatever the outcome. However DH is not letting me do anything except pour drinks lol so he worked like a trooper. He is anyway the cook in our household and made so many yummy dishes, everyone was very impressed and I think won't have to eat for the rest of the week!!! ***TW There were a few difficult moments as we seemed to have lots of small children around this year, plus one 7.5 month pregnant friend, and two more who this week contacted me and asked if they could make their pregnancy announcements at the party... one is 11 and the other 13 weeks. I felt great for the announcements, it was just afterwards when some others made comments about "yeah come on, surely it's your turn now" "you'd better hurry up baby making". I just smiled sweetly - on one hand I can understand it -I'm 39, we've been together quite a few years, got married in December, last year bought this big very family friendly house... but on the other hand I just wish people wouldn't say it out loud... End TW*** Today should be all about relaxing. We have a few guests who stayed over, so a nice relaxed brunch and then some snoozing when they've left this afternoon :-)
@cxsim08 I've been taking CoQ10 the last 3 months on recommendation from my RE. I don't know if it really helps egg quality or not, or if I've been on it long enough to really know (and i didn't have an ER before to compare it to) but what i do have to say is that both DH and I are less tired and have more energy than before we were taking it. So if it has the same effect on my eggs I hope this means they have more energy for the dividing and implantation. DHEA is very difficult to get here. My RE said it's only allowed on prescription and he needs to be able to justify it, which normally means minimum 3 failed cycles. Also that he would want to run more tests, as although for some ladies he thinks it might help, for others it can be detrimental so it's important to figure that out first. I also talked to a big pharmacy and checked online, and I cannot get it legally without a prescription, even not delivered from overseas. As I'm not up for breaking the law, I will wait and see.
@cmiller73 those are some gorgeous looking embies. I got a photo of mine too (though it was only 40 hours after they mixed DHs sperm with my egg so the photo was when it was 2-cell and by the time we transferred it was 4-cell just two hours later. I can't stop looking at the photo.
@businesswife good luck today! Are you tempted to transfer one freshie already this time and freeze the rest? We would love to have you in our PUPO club :-) @artemis618 and @adirat how are those stims/monitoring going?
So I think our PUPO club is now the following: @Decemberdoll27 - 18th Sep 1x day 5 fresh transfer, progesterone vaginally, beta 29th Sep @cxsimo08 - 22nd Sep 2x day 3 fresh transfer, PIO, beta ??? @cmiller73 - 23rd Sep 4x day 3 fresh transfer, progesterone???, beta ??? @emmasemm - 22nd Sep 1x day 2 fresh transfer, progesterone vaginally, beta 6th Oct @fuzzydust - 22nd Sep 1x day 5 frozen transfer, PIO, beta??? @hopeful_mom - 18th Sep 1x day 5 frozen transfer, progesterone???, beta 27th Sep
If I've got anyone's info wrong or for the missing info let me know and I'll update the list (and if I get back on my PC try to set up a spreadsheet!). The next two weeks are going to be a rollercoaster for us all!
And @Loverin should be joining us later with 24th Sep 2x day 3 fresh transfer! Fx everything goes super smooth! Will you be PIO or vaginally and do you know your beta date?
If I missed anyone let me know so I can try and get us all together :-)
Me 43 DH 45 Married 12/2016 TTC #1 since 04/2015 AMA, DOR (AMH 0.65, AFC 2-4) and autoimmune issues (RA, APS), low TSH, adenomyosis 7 retrievals, 3 transfers
Jun19 FET BFP, due date 7th March 2020, DD born Feb20
Sep17 IVF1 - 1ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN Nov17 IVF2 - 1ER, 0F Jan18 IVF3 - 3ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN Feb18 - second opinion and additional testing Apr18 IVF4 - cancelled (E2 too high) May/Jun18 IVF4 - 4ER, 0M, 1F, 1 frozen day 3 (not best quality) Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - 5 ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (not best quality) Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - 4ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (good quality) Aug/Sep18 IVF7 - cancelled (cyst) Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - 3ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen Day 3 (excellent quality) Oct18 IVF8 - Cancelled (cyst and too low TSH) Oct18-Jan19 bringing TSH under control Feb19 ERA and hysteroscopy Mar19 Investigation for fibroid and adenomyosis Apr19 adenomyosis confirmed, polyps removed Jun19 FET after 2 months Lupron, autoimmune protocol, transferred two day 3 frozen embryos
Sep17 - Pergoveris 10-17 Sep, Orgalutran 15-18 Sep, Ovitrelle 18 Sep, ER 20 Sep for 2 follies, 1 mature egg, fertilized, ET 1x 2d 4-cell embryo 22/09, 05/10 BFN Nov17 IVF2 - Pergoveris 2-14 Nov, Orgalutran 5-14 Nov, Ovitrelle 15 Nov, ER 17 Nov for 3 follies, 1 mature egg, did not fertilize Jan18 IVF3 - Pergoveris 30 Dec - 8 Jan, Orgalutran 5-8 Jan, Ovitrelle 9 Jan, ER 11 Jan 3 eggs, 2 mature, 1 fertilized, ET 1x 4d 12-cell embryo 15/01, 24/01 BFN May/Jun18 IVF4 - Rekovelle 25-29 May, Menogon 30May - 2Jun, Zomacton 25 27 29 31 May and 2Jun, Cetrotide 30May - 3Jun, Gonasi 3Jun, ER 5Jun 4 eggs, none mature, two matured overnight, 1 fertilized with ICSI, Frozen day 3 but not good quality Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - Rekovelle 21-24 June, Menogon 25Jun-3Jul, Puregon 4-5Jul, Zomacton 21 23 25 27 29 Jun, Cetrotide 25Jun-5Jul, Gonasi 6Jul, ER 8Jul 5 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 but not good quality Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - Rekovelle 26-29 Jul, Menogon 30Jul-7Aug, Buserelin 26Jul-7Aug, Zomacton 26 28 30 Jul 1 3 Aug, Gonasi 7Aug, ER 9Aug 4 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized (normal IVF), 2 frozen day 3 good quality Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - Menogon 19-30Sep, Buserelin 19-30Sep, Zomacton 19 21 23 25 27 Sep, Ovitrelle 1 Oct, ER 3 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 excellent quality
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@emmasemm lol no, sounds like fun! But I have a polypectomy scheduled for Oct 18 before we can transfer.... my clinic only does fresh if the patient's insurance mandates it, otherwise FET only.
Your party sounds wonderful! That is really big of you to be able to handle two pregnancy announcements! Kudos! ...and then the comments, of course. :/ I feeling being in the ivf treatment process has made those kind of questions a little easier to brush off and take lightly, so hopefully it didn't have to ruin your day! (((Hugs))) We are so close to VICTORY!!!
@businesswife ahhh forgot about your polyp... but then hopefully you can join @sunnyrain2 and @rainbows2018 in the November FET club! You will be ready before you know it. Are you up early for your ER this morning? Got my fx for you.
And yes the party was great and no it didn't ruin it. The nice things was both checked with me in advance - mostly because they knew people would ask why they weren't drinking, and both said they couldn't trust their husbands not to let the cat out of the bag after they'd had a few drinks hehe
Me 43 DH 45 Married 12/2016 TTC #1 since 04/2015 AMA, DOR (AMH 0.65, AFC 2-4) and autoimmune issues (RA, APS), low TSH, adenomyosis 7 retrievals, 3 transfers
Jun19 FET BFP, due date 7th March 2020, DD born Feb20
Sep17 IVF1 - 1ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN Nov17 IVF2 - 1ER, 0F Jan18 IVF3 - 3ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN Feb18 - second opinion and additional testing Apr18 IVF4 - cancelled (E2 too high) May/Jun18 IVF4 - 4ER, 0M, 1F, 1 frozen day 3 (not best quality) Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - 5 ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (not best quality) Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - 4ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (good quality) Aug/Sep18 IVF7 - cancelled (cyst) Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - 3ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen Day 3 (excellent quality) Oct18 IVF8 - Cancelled (cyst and too low TSH) Oct18-Jan19 bringing TSH under control Feb19 ERA and hysteroscopy Mar19 Investigation for fibroid and adenomyosis Apr19 adenomyosis confirmed, polyps removed Jun19 FET after 2 months Lupron, autoimmune protocol, transferred two day 3 frozen embryos
Sep17 - Pergoveris 10-17 Sep, Orgalutran 15-18 Sep, Ovitrelle 18 Sep, ER 20 Sep for 2 follies, 1 mature egg, fertilized, ET 1x 2d 4-cell embryo 22/09, 05/10 BFN Nov17 IVF2 - Pergoveris 2-14 Nov, Orgalutran 5-14 Nov, Ovitrelle 15 Nov, ER 17 Nov for 3 follies, 1 mature egg, did not fertilize Jan18 IVF3 - Pergoveris 30 Dec - 8 Jan, Orgalutran 5-8 Jan, Ovitrelle 9 Jan, ER 11 Jan 3 eggs, 2 mature, 1 fertilized, ET 1x 4d 12-cell embryo 15/01, 24/01 BFN May/Jun18 IVF4 - Rekovelle 25-29 May, Menogon 30May - 2Jun, Zomacton 25 27 29 31 May and 2Jun, Cetrotide 30May - 3Jun, Gonasi 3Jun, ER 5Jun 4 eggs, none mature, two matured overnight, 1 fertilized with ICSI, Frozen day 3 but not good quality Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - Rekovelle 21-24 June, Menogon 25Jun-3Jul, Puregon 4-5Jul, Zomacton 21 23 25 27 29 Jun, Cetrotide 25Jun-5Jul, Gonasi 6Jul, ER 8Jul 5 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 but not good quality Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - Rekovelle 26-29 Jul, Menogon 30Jul-7Aug, Buserelin 26Jul-7Aug, Zomacton 26 28 30 Jul 1 3 Aug, Gonasi 7Aug, ER 9Aug 4 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized (normal IVF), 2 frozen day 3 good quality Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - Menogon 19-30Sep, Buserelin 19-30Sep, Zomacton 19 21 23 25 27 Sep, Ovitrelle 1 Oct, ER 3 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 excellent quality
Fav Quote: The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return
@emmasemm your party does sound great! I hate people with "you are next" comments though. I recently called my own grandma to chat and check on her and she blasted me with comments like : "you are no spring chicken so you should work on babymaking, you better think about growing your family and not your career, and the worst one - don't you want your own child instead of obsessing over your step son? " I swear it took all my will power not to throw my phone into a wall! I get that she is old and slightly crazy and she hopefuly means well, but really, lady? We never told her about my ep and my diagnosis to not stress her but I think nobody deserves this from family members. Rant over, sorry .
All the ladies from the PUPO club, anybody feels anything? Any crazy intuition going? For example I looked at the picture of the embaby we transfered and imidiatly told DH that it is a boy so I m pretty sure if it sticks we will have a boy. Even though I originally wanted a girl. I can't explain that. Anybody else with something like that?
Me 30, DH 39 TTC since Aug 2015, BFP Apr 2017 - late diagnosed EP, right tube removed, left tube scarred. Dx: tubal IF IVF Sept 2017, 7 R, 6M, 6F- 4 blasts, 1 transferred fresh - CP FET #1 Dec 2017- BFN FET #2 Jan 2018- CP FET #3 BFP!!! EDD 12/15/2018!
@emmasemm you are a stronger woman than I am! Glad you had a good celebration but those comments at any friend or family gathering are always so hard.
Afm i I am officially PUPO!!!! Gosh that is so cool to say . I don't think I've ever been more uncomfortable than I was in the waiting room with 1.5 liters of water making it's way to my bladder and knowing it was going to be an hour before I could pee! But so worth it Beta is 10/4, I'm debating telling DH it's going to be the day after that so I could potentially suprise him if it's positive. IVF takes a lot of the suprise out of pregnancy so id love to find a way to take this one thing back.
Starting progesterone in oil tonight, any of you ladies have to do these yourself? Any tips??
Me & DH: 28 | TTC since May 2016 | DH: Morphology 0% | 2 IUI's with Clomid - BFN | IVF ICSI Sept. 2017
emmasemm - wow, quite a baby-rich party you have. Glad you can be happy for your friends! We all get the baby comments, and usually it's from people closes to us that are the most painful to hear.
BTW, correction for my PUPO info: 20nd Sep 1x day 6 frozen transfer, PIO, beta Sept 30
DecemberDoll27 - wow, my parents do the things your grandma does. Almost in those exact words. And they do know about my problems and all. I think they hold it against me that I found a person I want to have children with later in life, like it was my choice. Grrr.
On the "feel anything as a PUPO" - today is my 4dp6dt, and yesterday I had cramps - just this nagging dull pain and comfortableness. Still feeling a bit of it today, but not as much. On the day of transfer my blood progesterone was waaaay low (2.7), and I pretty much decided that it's all over. I was switched from suppositories to PIO right away, but I kept thinking that it's too late. I don't know why - before the transfer I felt very hopeful. Yesterday that hopefulness returned again. I feel like my uterus is a bit "sore", and I now got the positive outlook back - something is happening there. Might be just from switching the hormones, or maybe even just an echo pain from the PIO shots, but I now believe in success again. My little boy bean is growing strong (we know the gender), attaching deeper to a nutrients-rich spot. I too look at the embryo picture I got right before the transfer, and keep believing that it will work.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- My story in signature spoiler. Children mentioned.
Me: 37 DH: 45 I don't produce FSH, so no natural menstrual cycle. DH has reduced morphology. Summer 2014 IUI (with first husband): cancelled after almost a month of stims due to too many follicles Time off to divorce, get back on my feet, find a new hubby and get married again 💑 March 2017 IVF#1: ~70 follicles, 13R, 10M, 7F, 3B = 2 PGS Normal (both XY) - no transfer due to ohss Sept 2017 FET#1: BFP, Beta#1 (10dpt) - 253, Beta#2 (12dpt) - 528, DS born 05/31/2018 👨👩👦 Dec 2019 FET#2: BFN Changed clinic, planning March 2020 IVF#2 - postponed due to the pandemic April 2020 IVF #2: ~30 follicles, 24R, 12M, 8F, 4B = 2XY & 2XX, all normal Sept 2020 FET#3: one XX embryo, BFP, Beta#1 (9dpt) - 161, Beta#2 (11dpt) - 519, Beta#3 (19dpt) - 7174, Due date 05/30/2021 DD born 05/23/2021 👨👩👧👦 - My family is now complete
@loverin. Congratulations on being PASP!!!! ❤❤❤ fx for more good news in the 4th...
@emmasemm. Yes! I think FET will be early November, hopefully in time for positive betas by Thanksgiving!!!
Thanks ladies for all the love!!!
I just got home a little bit ago, and we are going to settle in and rest, but it went well! We know they were not all mature, and we have to wait til Monday for the fert report but...
<div class="Spoiler">We got 21 eggs!!!!<img alt="" src="https://us.v-cdn.net/5020794/uploads/editor/m5/e2qbagrwti57.gif"></div> The nurse told me they get fertilized about 5 hours later, and the procedure went from 7:05AM to 7:25AM, I was back resting and waking. So praying for beautiful fertilization, and thinking of them especially around noontime when my lil girls get to meet their boyfriends!!! :D *autocorrect typo
@emmasemm thanks for pulling all of our info together! (I am crinone vaginally and beta on 10/5)
AFM its only 1dp3dt so lots of bloating still and crampiness. So much so I woke up twice in the middle of the night with some (what I am assuming) gas pain. I also slept like 10.5 hours last night... bless DH for letting me sleep in. This time he is forcing me to take it very easy, doting on me and making sure I don't get a wild hair and decide to go out and till the garden for winter crops or something crazy like that.
SO I am bored. VERY BORED. I get laundry and vacuuming duty. And meal planning/invite making for our Christmas gathering (we are hosting his parents and sister/her family for Christmas this year... sooooo that should be fun.)
At least October is shaping up to be a great month, our 3rd anniversary escape to the mountains in Vermont, and we see the Boston Symphony Orchestra perform Nightmare Before Christmas on Halloween!
@BusinessWife FX for your retrieval this morning! @loverin CONGRATS on joining the PUPO club! @DecemberDoll27 As far as symptoms, I wouldn't think I should feel anything for another few days since it was a Day3 transfer but I am super twingy, tired and have sore nipples (sorry if TMI, but these were sore even a few days before retrieval this time... weird.)
Also: I swear I have no idea if the Crinone is 'in there' or I'm getting it all in.... my applicator is a two piece thingy and doesn't look like the ones I find in online videos... and UGH. #discharge But I guess its somewhat better than a shot in the a$$ every night?
cmiller73 sore nipples is a good indicator that crinone does make it there
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- My story in signature spoiler. Children mentioned.
Me: 37 DH: 45 I don't produce FSH, so no natural menstrual cycle. DH has reduced morphology. Summer 2014 IUI (with first husband): cancelled after almost a month of stims due to too many follicles Time off to divorce, get back on my feet, find a new hubby and get married again 💑 March 2017 IVF#1: ~70 follicles, 13R, 10M, 7F, 3B = 2 PGS Normal (both XY) - no transfer due to ohss Sept 2017 FET#1: BFP, Beta#1 (10dpt) - 253, Beta#2 (12dpt) - 528, DS born 05/31/2018 👨👩👦 Dec 2019 FET#2: BFN Changed clinic, planning March 2020 IVF#2 - postponed due to the pandemic April 2020 IVF #2: ~30 follicles, 24R, 12M, 8F, 4B = 2XY & 2XX, all normal Sept 2020 FET#3: one XX embryo, BFP, Beta#1 (9dpt) - 161, Beta#2 (11dpt) - 519, Beta#3 (19dpt) - 7174, Due date 05/30/2021 DD born 05/23/2021 👨👩👧👦 - My family is now complete
Fx for a great fert report @BusinessWife That’s a promising number of eggs!
Thanks @Hopeful_mom So glad you finally got to transfer! I think of your negative microdose lupron protocol experience from time to time since that’s what I’m on now - but trying to keep the faith.
@emmasemm That sounds like a great party, though the multiple pregnancy announcements a little challenging. I admire your grace . We also got married last year though I’ll be 40 in a couple of weeks. I also feel you on the ridiculous (for just two people) house in a neighborhood with tons of young kids (“well, we *TW* WERE pregnant when we bought the house...”*end TW*). Sometimes when people ask about our kid plans (like a pregnant coworker did just the other day), I will just tell them about our *TW* loss (she was further along than 12 weeks).
@cmiller73 That sounds like a lovely anniversary trip!
AFM, I had my first monitoring appointment Friday morning (after 3 nights of stims) and the Dr. reduced my stims (from 450 to 375, down to 300 tomorrow night). I had couple 11s and 7 less than 10 on the R and like a 12 and an 11 and 6 less than 10 on the L. Lining already 10mm and trilaminar. At first after the u/s, he said I didn’t need blood work and to continue on the same dose, but the nurse had already drawn my blood so he took a look and subsequently decided to make a change based on the blood work (I was kind of wondering about my E2 anyway b/c of CM so early...).
New RE, but this is actually the first time I’ve had stims reduced, so I don’t know what that means in terms of how this will end up. Anyone had any experience with stepping down stims? Good news is that as of Friday AM I had no dominant follicle about which I was concerned since I had no suppression before. Next appt isn’t till Tuesday (because of my preferred location).
Hope everyone’s having a great weekend!
About me: Married 6/18/16 (Me 42, DH 44), TTC #2 ***TW***
Natural BFP 8/10/16 --> mc our NIPT-normal little girl at 11w5d on 10/1/16 As of 12/2016: AMH 1.42, FSH 6.1, AFC ~10 Self-benched Nov-Dec 2016 for IVF #1 Jan-Feb 2017 (OCP, testosterone primed antagonist w/HGH - ER 2/2/17 - 12R, 7M ICSI'd, 3F, 0B) IVF #2 Mar-Apr 2017 (testosterone primed agonist/luteal lupron w/HGH - ER 4/8/17 - 10R, 8M, 8F, 5B, 1 PGS normal) IVF #3 May-Jun 2017 (testosterone primed agonist/luteal lupron w/HGH - ER 6/4/17 - 14R, 5F, 3B, 0 normal) **New RE** IVF #4 Sept 2017 (natural start microdose lupron flare w/HGH - ER 9/28/17 - 33R, 18F, 10B, 4 PGS normals!) FET #1 (medicated) of one PGS normal 4AA XX 11/2/17 - Beta #1 11/11/17 (153), Beta #2 11/13/17 (324), mc at 5w1d on 11/19/17 IVF #5 Dec 2017 - Insemination of 9 frozen eggs from 2012 (8F, 1B, 0 normal) Jan 2018 - Natural cycle ERA (normal/receptive) & stimming for IVF #6 Jan-Feb 2018 (natural start microdose lupron flare w/HGH - ER 2/3/18 - 17R, 6M, 4F, 0 blasts) IVF #7 Feb 2018 (natural start microdose lupron flare w/HGH - ER 2/26/18 - 19R, 9M, 9F, 4B, 2 PGS normals) FET #2 Apr 2018 (natural cycle w/o trigger, w/P4 support) of one PGS normal 4AA- XX 4/5/18 - Beta #1 4/14/18 (67), Beta #2 4/16/18 (231) Rainbow baby girl born 12/16/2018 (via c-section, induced at 39 weeks)
----- TFAS! FET #3 Dec 2019 (natural cycle w/o trigger, w/P4 support) of one PGS normal 3BB XY 12/16/19 - Beta #1 12/24/19 (139), Beta #2 12/27/19 (482)
Wonderful to see so many people PUPO! Next stop betas!
@artemis618 I don't have personal experience but as long as you don't have a dominant follicle I imagine it should be fine!
@cmiller76 I've been on crinone before and was reassured that it does get in there even if you have remnants on the applicator or extensive buildup. GL!
Afm -- thanks for asking @emmasemm, I'm doing ok. I now have 7 follicles between 10-14mm so my RE is expecting a retrieval on Thurs or Fri. I hope a few more will catch up between now and then. The increase in Follistim did help significantly but I guess I was hoping for more? I'll be giving my ovaries a @businesswife style pep talk each day between now and my next monitoring appt on Tues!
@cxsimo08 - I called and doctor said we can't do the estrogen level test because I'm on birth control (duh! I forgot that was giving me estrogen) .. so back to the drawing board. I am stopping birth control Monday. We will have ultrasound Thursday morning and then will start stims Thursday night if things look okay. I am going to come up with questions I need to ask to feel good about this!
@Hopeful_mom hi! Good,but sad to see you back. I'm so sorry about our May transfers. I think that's where we met last. Best of luck with this beta on wednesday!!! Fingers crossed for you!
@emmasemm happy belated sounds like such a lovely time glad you were able to enjoy! Its so hard as we age so many have no clue the struggle to have a child and they dont think about it. I'm sure when i was younger I said the same foolish thing to others that had gotten married not eve thinking or knowing. You really handled everything amazingly!! This pass week was the jewish new year (TW where my twins shouldve been about 3month and coming with me to temple...I made it through the first day but on the second day there were like 3/4 new borns there...I had to hide my tears, it got to be too much. TW) Hoping your announcement is just around the corner! Does any of your family know?
cmiller73 how many times a day are you doing the crinone? I did it for my fresh transfer and it was fine! After a few weeks i had too much build up. The tip they gave me now and should've gave me last time is to walk around after u do it...and it won't be as messy and clumpy!! This time its killing me cause i'm doing it 2x a day and my vag is just to sensitive, i'm in so much pain so will be switching it to PIO every day now. Take it easy for sure let you lil pnuts start to snuggle on in!
artemis618 glad things are going smoothly! Remember that protocol works miracles on others our age so it could be a magical protocol for u it just wasnt for me. Was it because i did cycles back to back who knows...no reason it wont work...I'm not part of the majority. Its good you're RE is watching u closely! I wouldn't worry too much about taking down the dosage.
AFM: Was up at 7a in pain and first fell bac asleep a few hours later...I literally want to rip my vag off!! I heard bac from my RE and he agrees I'm having a reaction to the crinone (my vag is very sensitive..I"m rare I"m sure anyone else taking it will be fine!!) and I think for now will switch to just PIO and see how that goes. We already know my butt will not thank me but it is what it is...this is killing me to no end. The only good thing is he reminded me this can't hurt my pnut just me...so that makes me feel a lil better.
History of TTC in spoiler box
TTC since 2014 Unexplained Infertility - but I am 40...Low AMH .30 7 - IUI (50mg-150mg Clomid) Feb - August 2016 all BFN IVF#1 August 2016 (Antagonist protocol 4/5 eggs) Cancelled cycle RE thought I would get at least 10. IVF#2 Sept 2016 (microdose luporn pro - disappearing follies, ONLY ONE, convert to IUI) BFN IVF#3 November 2016 (4 ER, 3 F, 3DT)-BFP with TWINS // MC both at almost 10wks IVF#4 March 2017 //EPP (10 ER (1 wonky so 9 ER) 7F, 3B (5AB, (2)5BB) PGS tested- ALL abnormal IVF#5 April 2017 // EPP (7 ER, 7F yes! 6B) 2/5 day 4/6 day - 2 PGS normal! yes!! IVF#6 May 2017 // Antagonist didn't have time for Estrogen Priming...(4 ER, 3 F, 3B) (5AB, (2) 5BB) 2 PGS normal, yes!! IVF#7 June 2017 // EPP praying this is it and then on to an FET!
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@cmiller73 my DH is exactly the same, telling me to sit my ass on the couch the whole time!
@artemis618 great news there is no dominant follicle and fx for Tuesday that you are good to trigger this week
@adirat 7 good quality eggs would be great wouldn't it? But I think the pep talk for the rest of the week can't do any harm lol
@hopeful_mom I am soooooo hoping you can start our run of BFPs on Wednesday!!!
And now it's bed time for me here in Europe. Wish you all a relaxing Sunday evening and OMG this is going to be another rollercoaster week for the Sep crew!
Me 43 DH 45 Married 12/2016 TTC #1 since 04/2015 AMA, DOR (AMH 0.65, AFC 2-4) and autoimmune issues (RA, APS), low TSH, adenomyosis 7 retrievals, 3 transfers
Jun19 FET BFP, due date 7th March 2020, DD born Feb20
Sep17 IVF1 - 1ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN Nov17 IVF2 - 1ER, 0F Jan18 IVF3 - 3ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN Feb18 - second opinion and additional testing Apr18 IVF4 - cancelled (E2 too high) May/Jun18 IVF4 - 4ER, 0M, 1F, 1 frozen day 3 (not best quality) Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - 5 ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (not best quality) Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - 4ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (good quality) Aug/Sep18 IVF7 - cancelled (cyst) Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - 3ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen Day 3 (excellent quality) Oct18 IVF8 - Cancelled (cyst and too low TSH) Oct18-Jan19 bringing TSH under control Feb19 ERA and hysteroscopy Mar19 Investigation for fibroid and adenomyosis Apr19 adenomyosis confirmed, polyps removed Jun19 FET after 2 months Lupron, autoimmune protocol, transferred two day 3 frozen embryos
Sep17 - Pergoveris 10-17 Sep, Orgalutran 15-18 Sep, Ovitrelle 18 Sep, ER 20 Sep for 2 follies, 1 mature egg, fertilized, ET 1x 2d 4-cell embryo 22/09, 05/10 BFN Nov17 IVF2 - Pergoveris 2-14 Nov, Orgalutran 5-14 Nov, Ovitrelle 15 Nov, ER 17 Nov for 3 follies, 1 mature egg, did not fertilize Jan18 IVF3 - Pergoveris 30 Dec - 8 Jan, Orgalutran 5-8 Jan, Ovitrelle 9 Jan, ER 11 Jan 3 eggs, 2 mature, 1 fertilized, ET 1x 4d 12-cell embryo 15/01, 24/01 BFN May/Jun18 IVF4 - Rekovelle 25-29 May, Menogon 30May - 2Jun, Zomacton 25 27 29 31 May and 2Jun, Cetrotide 30May - 3Jun, Gonasi 3Jun, ER 5Jun 4 eggs, none mature, two matured overnight, 1 fertilized with ICSI, Frozen day 3 but not good quality Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - Rekovelle 21-24 June, Menogon 25Jun-3Jul, Puregon 4-5Jul, Zomacton 21 23 25 27 29 Jun, Cetrotide 25Jun-5Jul, Gonasi 6Jul, ER 8Jul 5 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 but not good quality Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - Rekovelle 26-29 Jul, Menogon 30Jul-7Aug, Buserelin 26Jul-7Aug, Zomacton 26 28 30 Jul 1 3 Aug, Gonasi 7Aug, ER 9Aug 4 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized (normal IVF), 2 frozen day 3 good quality Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - Menogon 19-30Sep, Buserelin 19-30Sep, Zomacton 19 21 23 25 27 Sep, Ovitrelle 1 Oct, ER 3 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 excellent quality
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Thanks @emmasemm for the spreadsheet! Get some rest!
WOWZERS @BusinessWife, that is an awesome retrieval! FX for a great fert report
Who was asking about self administering PIO? Really, it is not that bad, its all about the technique and my nurse really helped set my mind at ease. Thumb on the hip, stretch out your fingers parallel to the floor and then pinch. AKA: "grab your muffin top" according to my nurse! I iced the area first and didn't feel a thing, my previous FET my hubby did my injections and we did not ice and I felt it all. Have faith in your strength! and Thank the Lord for 25g injection needles (and not the thicker ones they send for mixing!)
loverin congrats on being PUPO!! The full bladder does take a minute, how long after did you have to wait before getting relief? Hopefully its all worth it in the end! Your OH can't help you with the shot? THere are some that do it themselves but this is one shot I like to have done for me! They do say to massage the area after and walk around so its not as sore, good luck!! I think its great you want to surprise your DH hope you get the opportunity!!
History of TTC in spoiler box
TTC since 2014 Unexplained Infertility - but I am 40...Low AMH .30 7 - IUI (50mg-150mg Clomid) Feb - August 2016 all BFN IVF#1 August 2016 (Antagonist protocol 4/5 eggs) Cancelled cycle RE thought I would get at least 10. IVF#2 Sept 2016 (microdose luporn pro - disappearing follies, ONLY ONE, convert to IUI) BFN IVF#3 November 2016 (4 ER, 3 F, 3DT)-BFP with TWINS // MC both at almost 10wks IVF#4 March 2017 //EPP (10 ER (1 wonky so 9 ER) 7F, 3B (5AB, (2)5BB) PGS tested- ALL abnormal IVF#5 April 2017 // EPP (7 ER, 7F yes! 6B) 2/5 day 4/6 day - 2 PGS normal! yes!! IVF#6 May 2017 // Antagonist didn't have time for Estrogen Priming...(4 ER, 3 F, 3B) (5AB, (2) 5BB) 2 PGS normal, yes!! IVF#7 June 2017 // EPP praying this is it and then on to an FET!
@loverin congrats on being PUPO! @emmasemm you are fantasticaly awesome for putting that spreadsheet together!
AFM, I am spotting a little and it freaks me out! ( I know it could be a million of different things like implantation bleeding or cervix irritated by vaginal inserts, or my ohhh so lovely stitch in my V post ER). *TW I think I am having a flash back into my EP nightmare and spotting was the first thing that started it* end TW and I think my boob hurt less today, and it is stupid but it makes me upset too! I did not tell DH since he is stresses already. My step son twisted his ankle today badly so we spent our morning in the ER. He is ok now so that's good news.
I am crazy and I know it, I freak out and think the worst about every little thing. I wish I could talk to my mom about it, but she does not know about our IVF adventure ( I told her we will do it in 2018) Sorry for the load of pessimism but I have no other outlet. I just hope my little peanut is fine in there
Me 30, DH 39 TTC since Aug 2015, BFP Apr 2017 - late diagnosed EP, right tube removed, left tube scarred. Dx: tubal IF IVF Sept 2017, 7 R, 6M, 6F- 4 blasts, 1 transferred fresh - CP FET #1 Dec 2017- BFN FET #2 Jan 2018- CP FET #3 BFP!!! EDD 12/15/2018!
DecemberDoll27 it can really be IB so don't worry too much, is it still happening? Sorry you had such a rough morning glad your DSS is ok, at least it distracted you for a min. Hoping the rest of your weekend will be uneventful. hoping your boobs feel more sore tomorrow
History of TTC in spoiler box
TTC since 2014 Unexplained Infertility - but I am 40...Low AMH .30 7 - IUI (50mg-150mg Clomid) Feb - August 2016 all BFN IVF#1 August 2016 (Antagonist protocol 4/5 eggs) Cancelled cycle RE thought I would get at least 10. IVF#2 Sept 2016 (microdose luporn pro - disappearing follies, ONLY ONE, convert to IUI) BFN IVF#3 November 2016 (4 ER, 3 F, 3DT)-BFP with TWINS // MC both at almost 10wks IVF#4 March 2017 //EPP (10 ER (1 wonky so 9 ER) 7F, 3B (5AB, (2)5BB) PGS tested- ALL abnormal IVF#5 April 2017 // EPP (7 ER, 7F yes! 6B) 2/5 day 4/6 day - 2 PGS normal! yes!! IVF#6 May 2017 // Antagonist didn't have time for Estrogen Priming...(4 ER, 3 F, 3B) (5AB, (2) 5BB) 2 PGS normal, yes!! IVF#7 June 2017 // EPP praying this is it and then on to an FET!
Thank you for creating that @emmasemm! Amazing to see it all in one place. This lil group has done so much this month!
@DecemberDoll27 Hugs, that stuff can really twist your mind because every symptom can be for pregnancy or for AF. Keep breathing until your beta! I'm glad your stepson is ok.
Thank you @adirat and hopeful_mom! I think stress just got to me and everything is actually fine. And it was like 3 drops of blood total. I just need to calm down. Hopeful_mom are you planning on doing hpt before beta?
Me 30, DH 39 TTC since Aug 2015, BFP Apr 2017 - late diagnosed EP, right tube removed, left tube scarred. Dx: tubal IF IVF Sept 2017, 7 R, 6M, 6F- 4 blasts, 1 transferred fresh - CP FET #1 Dec 2017- BFN FET #2 Jan 2018- CP FET #3 BFP!!! EDD 12/15/2018!
@cmiller73 I was the one who asked! And after the first night of DH doing my first pio I'm out. I don't think there's a way I could mentally get myself to do it. I'll just have to drive an hour to his work when he's working! Mine are 22 gage needles for both
@hopefulmom I waited in the waiting room for 30 minutes, then did the transfer and THEN had to wait another 20 minutes. Stick me with needles all day, I was miserable! My DH works at an ER an hour away so I was planning to have to do some pio shots myself but after the first night I've already resigned myself to driving if need be. I've done all my own shots so far but there is a mental block with me and the 22 gage needles!
Me & DH: 28 | TTC since May 2016 | DH: Morphology 0% | 2 IUI's with Clomid - BFN | IVF ICSI Sept. 2017
loverin exactly, there are a few brave warriors on here that have done it and its just one road I rather not travel!! My ass still hurts and I'm sure its only going to get worse!
DecemberDoll27 I usually give in the day before...I like that i say usually when there really was the one other time last november. With my fire vag it has been a distraction to say the least...
History of TTC in spoiler box
TTC since 2014 Unexplained Infertility - but I am 40...Low AMH .30 7 - IUI (50mg-150mg Clomid) Feb - August 2016 all BFN IVF#1 August 2016 (Antagonist protocol 4/5 eggs) Cancelled cycle RE thought I would get at least 10. IVF#2 Sept 2016 (microdose luporn pro - disappearing follies, ONLY ONE, convert to IUI) BFN IVF#3 November 2016 (4 ER, 3 F, 3DT)-BFP with TWINS // MC both at almost 10wks IVF#4 March 2017 //EPP (10 ER (1 wonky so 9 ER) 7F, 3B (5AB, (2)5BB) PGS tested- ALL abnormal IVF#5 April 2017 // EPP (7 ER, 7F yes! 6B) 2/5 day 4/6 day - 2 PGS normal! yes!! IVF#6 May 2017 // Antagonist didn't have time for Estrogen Priming...(4 ER, 3 F, 3B) (5AB, (2) 5BB) 2 PGS normal, yes!! IVF#7 June 2017 // EPP praying this is it and then on to an FET!
Re: September IVF
They only retrieved half the number of expected eggs so I do wonder if the Lupron trigger alone was enough to complete the final maturation process on all the follicles.
TTC # 1 - 4 years, 7 IUIs, 3 IVF, 1 FET, 2 M/C, DD 2015
TTC # 2 - IVF # 4 March 2017 Long Lupron, 150 Gonal F, 150 Menopur
21R, 12M, 7F, Transferred 2 Froze 1 - BFN
FET # 2 May 2017 - BFN
IVF # 5 Sep 2017 - Antagonist, no BCP. 200 iu Follistim, 150 iu Menopur, Cetrotide started day 5, Lupron trigger
19R, 13M, 12F, No Transfer - 2 "beautiful" blasts frozen
FET # 3 Nov 2017
Diagnosis: Unexplained
2 IVFs, 8 IUIs (2 Clomid, 6 Injectables)
I had my morning monitoring and second part of trigger - the doctor said when I pressed a bit, we should get 5 mature, hopefully more.
<span>5?????? We had 10 last time! And only ended up with 3 to freeze. I sure hope we get more than 5 mature, bc at that rate, we might MAYBE just get one or two more out of an entire second cycle???? I mean don't get me wrong, 4 or 5 frosties to try would be 100% miraculous!! And really 5-7 is about what I think we would feel comfortable with in terms of eventually transferring them all. I guess I was just assuming this cycle would be about the same or </span>better<span> than the first one, not worse. </span><img alt="" src="https://forums.thebump.com/resources/emoji/confused.png" height="20"><span> i.e. 6-7 total. So anyway, just trying not to let it get me down too much, bc the truth is she really doesn't know, and we'll find out whenever we get the fert report. I can't remember if it was later that same day? Or the next? But it's gonna be what its gonna be, and we'll find out soon enough...</span>
Sorry for the disappointing news, especially on your second cycle! Fingers crossed for more mature eggs
TTC since Aug 2015,
BFP Apr 2017 - late diagnosed EP, right tube removed, left tube scarred.
Dx: tubal IF
IVF Sept 2017, 7 R, 6M, 6F- 4 blasts, 1 transferred fresh - CP
FET #1 Dec 2017- BFN
FET #2 Jan 2018- CP
FET #3 BFP!!! EDD 12/15/2018!
loverin we are numbers buddies! Mine was the same, two transferred D3 and hoping for the best for the remaining one to freeze! FX lady! How Is your body feeling today? Recovering quickly? I actually didn't find D3 much more painful then D5 so hopefully you have the same experience tomorrow. Heating pad before the transfer definitely helped!!! Thinking of you tomorrow!
@rainbows2018 yay for those numbers! Great work getting fertilized, egg babies!!
Diagnosis: Unexplained
2 IVFs, 8 IUIs (2 Clomid, 6 Injectables)
WIDE LOAD, COMING THROUGH
just back from transferring and ALL 4 looked pretty great!
16cell
10cell
9cell
7cell
Now to just wait.... so that makes me #4 to the PUPO club? or #5? Who is next up for retrieval (we don't have a file going for this group do we? I think it is @BusinessWife) ?? Good luck ladies and I'm sending AAAALLLLLLL the sticky vibes and good growth vibes to everyone on the thread!
Here are our lil bubbuhs (assisted hatching seen very clearly on the third down, and our fast runner 16cell at the top):
@loverin. I don't know. Maybe she was trying to be conservative? Discrepancies in different people counting from one day to the next? I'm going to try not to worry about it and just hope for the best...
@ businesswife during my entire cycle nobody ever discussed my bloodwork results with me so I don't even know what my levels were.
@ loverin we are excited to welcome you to pupo club tomorrow! Were you planning to transfer two from the beginning or is it a new development? Fingers crossed you get to freeze the third one as well!
AFM , I found myself driving in circles around a pharmacy talking myself out of buying a hpt. ( DH confiscated my secret stash of hpts on the day of our transfer) Sanity won this battle and I did not go in. But I am dying to test and terrified to tears at the same time. We are 5dp5dt. It will be a long wait to Friday!
TTC since Aug 2015,
BFP Apr 2017 - late diagnosed EP, right tube removed, left tube scarred.
Dx: tubal IF
IVF Sept 2017, 7 R, 6M, 6F- 4 blasts, 1 transferred fresh - CP
FET #1 Dec 2017- BFN
FET #2 Jan 2018- CP
FET #3 BFP!!! EDD 12/15/2018!
@emmasemm how are you feeling?
DecemberDoll27 did you transfer on the 18th? Sounds like you could certainly be on your way to a BFP! I did an FET on the 18th and I'm hella nervous to test!
krenee124 glad to see you're back in the game, good luck hope u get a bunch to transfer.
@cmiller73 u r the reason that made me pop in sorry to see how crazy ER was my goodness! Glad they think your healing well and ready for a fresh transfer. I know its a tough situation for sure but I think its great to give it a whirl! i think some embabies just do better inside of us! AND yes I wish I had time to not to pgs and transfer all my pumpkins and have a football team PGS is not 100% and there are always new articles about testing and how its not spot on. You have to take it for what it is. I will always look at the ladies who were fortunate enough to transfer abnormal embryos...and still have healthy babies to show...its not common BUT it does happen!
You are PUPO!!!! whoo hoo so excited for you and with 4 lovely embabies really looking great and ahead of the game thats awesome. Sending you super sticky vibes!!
@cxsimo08 I think i saw you talking about supplements double check with your RE. I was taking everything under the sun BUT once PUPO they had me stop all the extras.
@artemis618 good luck lady hope you get a whole bunch of golden eggs!!
Unexplained Infertility - but I am 40...Low AMH .30
7 - IUI (50mg-150mg Clomid) Feb - August 2016 all BFN
IVF#1 August 2016 (Antagonist protocol 4/5 eggs) Cancelled cycle RE thought I would get at least 10.
IVF#2 Sept 2016 (microdose luporn pro - disappearing follies, ONLY ONE, convert to IUI) BFN
IVF#3 November 2016 (4 ER, 3 F, 3DT)-BFP with TWINS // MC both at almost 10wks
IVF#4 March 2017 //EPP (10 ER (1 wonky so 9 ER) 7F, 3B (5AB, (2)5BB) PGS tested- ALL abnormal
IVF#5 April 2017 // EPP (7 ER, 7F yes! 6B) 2/5 day 4/6 day - 2 PGS normal! yes!!
IVF#6 May 2017 // Antagonist didn't have time for Estrogen Priming...(4 ER, 3 F, 3B) (5AB, (2) 5BB) 2 PGS normal, yes!!
IVF#7 June 2017 // EPP praying this is it and then on to an FET!
TTC since Aug 2015,
BFP Apr 2017 - late diagnosed EP, right tube removed, left tube scarred.
Dx: tubal IF
IVF Sept 2017, 7 R, 6M, 6F- 4 blasts, 1 transferred fresh - CP
FET #1 Dec 2017- BFN
FET #2 Jan 2018- CP
FET #3 BFP!!! EDD 12/15/2018!
Unexplained Infertility - but I am 40...Low AMH .30
7 - IUI (50mg-150mg Clomid) Feb - August 2016 all BFN
IVF#1 August 2016 (Antagonist protocol 4/5 eggs) Cancelled cycle RE thought I would get at least 10.
IVF#2 Sept 2016 (microdose luporn pro - disappearing follies, ONLY ONE, convert to IUI) BFN
IVF#3 November 2016 (4 ER, 3 F, 3DT)-BFP with TWINS // MC both at almost 10wks
IVF#4 March 2017 //EPP (10 ER (1 wonky so 9 ER) 7F, 3B (5AB, (2)5BB) PGS tested- ALL abnormal
IVF#5 April 2017 // EPP (7 ER, 7F yes! 6B) 2/5 day 4/6 day - 2 PGS normal! yes!!
IVF#6 May 2017 // Antagonist didn't have time for Estrogen Priming...(4 ER, 3 F, 3B) (5AB, (2) 5BB) 2 PGS normal, yes!!
IVF#7 June 2017 // EPP praying this is it and then on to an FET!
Missed our PUPO club growing it seems!!!
We had a party at our house, with friends to celebrate our birthdays, as mine was a week last Friday and DH's was this last Friday. We always have one the Saturday after our birthdays, and this time we had already invited for it (as some people travel from hours away) before we got our IVF schedule, then decided in the end it would be a good distraction whatever the outcome. However DH is not letting me do anything except pour drinks lol so he worked like a trooper. He is anyway the cook in our household and made so many yummy dishes, everyone was very impressed and I think won't have to eat for the rest of the week!!!
***TW There were a few difficult moments as we seemed to have lots of small children around this year, plus one 7.5 month pregnant friend, and two more who this week contacted me and asked if they could make their pregnancy announcements at the party... one is 11 and the other 13 weeks. I felt great for the announcements, it was just afterwards when some others made comments about "yeah come on, surely it's your turn now" "you'd better hurry up baby making". I just smiled sweetly - on one hand I can understand it -I'm 39, we've been together quite a few years, got married in December, last year bought this big very family friendly house... but on the other hand I just wish people wouldn't say it out loud... End TW***
Today should be all about relaxing. We have a few guests who stayed over, so a nice relaxed brunch and then some snoozing when they've left this afternoon :-)
@cxsim08 I've been taking CoQ10 the last 3 months on recommendation from my RE. I don't know if it really helps egg quality or not, or if I've been on it long enough to really know (and i didn't have an ER before to compare it to) but what i do have to say is that both DH and I are less tired and have more energy than before we were taking it. So if it has the same effect on my eggs I hope this means they have more energy for the dividing and implantation.
DHEA is very difficult to get here. My RE said it's only allowed on prescription and he needs to be able to justify it, which normally means minimum 3 failed cycles. Also that he would want to run more tests, as although for some ladies he thinks it might help, for others it can be detrimental so it's important to figure that out first. I also talked to a big pharmacy and checked online, and I cannot get it legally without a prescription, even not delivered from overseas. As I'm not up for breaking the law, I will wait and see.
@cmiller73 those are some gorgeous looking embies. I got a photo of mine too (though it was only 40 hours after they mixed DHs sperm with my egg so the photo was when it was 2-cell and by the time we transferred it was 4-cell just two hours later. I can't stop looking at the photo.
@businesswife good luck today! Are you tempted to transfer one freshie already this time and freeze the rest? We would love to have you in our PUPO club :-)
@artemis618 and @adirat how are those stims/monitoring going?
So I think our PUPO club is now the following:
@Decemberdoll27 - 18th Sep 1x day 5 fresh transfer, progesterone vaginally, beta 29th Sep
@cxsimo08 - 22nd Sep 2x day 3 fresh transfer, PIO, beta ???
@cmiller73 - 23rd Sep 4x day 3 fresh transfer, progesterone???, beta ???
@emmasemm - 22nd Sep 1x day 2 fresh transfer, progesterone vaginally, beta 6th Oct
@fuzzydust - 22nd Sep 1x day 5 frozen transfer, PIO, beta???
@hopeful_mom - 18th Sep 1x day 5 frozen transfer, progesterone???, beta 27th Sep
If I've got anyone's info wrong or for the missing info let me know and I'll update the list (and if I get back on my PC try to set up a spreadsheet!). The next two weeks are going to be a rollercoaster for us all!
And @Loverin should be joining us later with 24th Sep 2x day 3 fresh transfer! Fx everything goes super smooth! Will you be PIO or vaginally and do you know your beta date?
Then @sunnyrain2 and @rainbows2018 will be representing us in the November frosties group!
If I missed anyone let me know so I can try and get us all together :-)
Married 12/2016
TTC #1 since 04/2015
AMA, DOR (AMH 0.65, AFC 2-4) and autoimmune issues (RA, APS), low TSH, adenomyosis
7 retrievals, 3 transfers
Nov17 IVF2 - 1ER, 0F
Jan18 IVF3 - 3ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN
Feb18 - second opinion and additional testing
Apr18 IVF4 - cancelled (E2 too high)
May/Jun18 IVF4 - 4ER, 0M, 1F, 1 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - 5 ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - 4ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (good quality)
Aug/Sep18 IVF7 - cancelled (cyst)
Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - 3ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen Day 3 (excellent quality)
Oct18 IVF8 - Cancelled (cyst and too low TSH)
Oct18-Jan19 bringing TSH under control
Feb19 ERA and hysteroscopy
Mar19 Investigation for fibroid and adenomyosis
Apr19 adenomyosis confirmed, polyps removed
Jun19 FET after 2 months Lupron, autoimmune protocol, transferred two day 3 frozen embryos
Nov17 IVF2 - Pergoveris 2-14 Nov, Orgalutran 5-14 Nov, Ovitrelle 15 Nov, ER 17 Nov for 3 follies, 1 mature egg, did not fertilize
Jan18 IVF3 - Pergoveris 30 Dec - 8 Jan, Orgalutran 5-8 Jan, Ovitrelle 9 Jan, ER 11 Jan 3 eggs, 2 mature, 1 fertilized, ET 1x 4d 12-cell embryo 15/01, 24/01 BFN
May/Jun18 IVF4 - Rekovelle 25-29 May, Menogon 30May - 2Jun, Zomacton 25 27 29 31 May and 2Jun, Cetrotide 30May - 3Jun, Gonasi 3Jun, ER 5Jun 4 eggs, none mature, two matured overnight, 1 fertilized with ICSI, Frozen day 3 but not good quality
Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - Rekovelle 21-24 June, Menogon 25Jun-3Jul, Puregon 4-5Jul, Zomacton 21 23 25 27 29 Jun, Cetrotide 25Jun-5Jul, Gonasi 6Jul, ER 8Jul 5 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 but not good quality
Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - Rekovelle 26-29 Jul, Menogon 30Jul-7Aug, Buserelin 26Jul-7Aug, Zomacton 26 28 30 Jul 1 3 Aug, Gonasi 7Aug, ER 9Aug 4 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized (normal IVF), 2 frozen day 3 good quality
Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - Menogon 19-30Sep, Buserelin 19-30Sep, Zomacton 19 21 23 25 27 Sep, Ovitrelle 1 Oct, ER 3 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 excellent quality
Fav Quote: The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return
Your party sounds wonderful! That is really big of you to be able to handle two pregnancy announcements! Kudos! ...and then the comments, of course. :/ I feeling being in the ivf treatment process has made those kind of questions a little easier to brush off and take lightly, so hopefully it didn't have to ruin your day! (((Hugs))) We are so close to VICTORY!!!
Are you up early for your ER this morning? Got my fx for you.
And yes the party was great and no it didn't ruin it. The nice things was both checked with me in advance - mostly because they knew people would ask why they weren't drinking, and both said they couldn't trust their husbands not to let the cat out of the bag after they'd had a few drinks hehe
Married 12/2016
TTC #1 since 04/2015
AMA, DOR (AMH 0.65, AFC 2-4) and autoimmune issues (RA, APS), low TSH, adenomyosis
7 retrievals, 3 transfers
Nov17 IVF2 - 1ER, 0F
Jan18 IVF3 - 3ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN
Feb18 - second opinion and additional testing
Apr18 IVF4 - cancelled (E2 too high)
May/Jun18 IVF4 - 4ER, 0M, 1F, 1 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - 5 ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - 4ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (good quality)
Aug/Sep18 IVF7 - cancelled (cyst)
Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - 3ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen Day 3 (excellent quality)
Oct18 IVF8 - Cancelled (cyst and too low TSH)
Oct18-Jan19 bringing TSH under control
Feb19 ERA and hysteroscopy
Mar19 Investigation for fibroid and adenomyosis
Apr19 adenomyosis confirmed, polyps removed
Jun19 FET after 2 months Lupron, autoimmune protocol, transferred two day 3 frozen embryos
Nov17 IVF2 - Pergoveris 2-14 Nov, Orgalutran 5-14 Nov, Ovitrelle 15 Nov, ER 17 Nov for 3 follies, 1 mature egg, did not fertilize
Jan18 IVF3 - Pergoveris 30 Dec - 8 Jan, Orgalutran 5-8 Jan, Ovitrelle 9 Jan, ER 11 Jan 3 eggs, 2 mature, 1 fertilized, ET 1x 4d 12-cell embryo 15/01, 24/01 BFN
May/Jun18 IVF4 - Rekovelle 25-29 May, Menogon 30May - 2Jun, Zomacton 25 27 29 31 May and 2Jun, Cetrotide 30May - 3Jun, Gonasi 3Jun, ER 5Jun 4 eggs, none mature, two matured overnight, 1 fertilized with ICSI, Frozen day 3 but not good quality
Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - Rekovelle 21-24 June, Menogon 25Jun-3Jul, Puregon 4-5Jul, Zomacton 21 23 25 27 29 Jun, Cetrotide 25Jun-5Jul, Gonasi 6Jul, ER 8Jul 5 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 but not good quality
Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - Rekovelle 26-29 Jul, Menogon 30Jul-7Aug, Buserelin 26Jul-7Aug, Zomacton 26 28 30 Jul 1 3 Aug, Gonasi 7Aug, ER 9Aug 4 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized (normal IVF), 2 frozen day 3 good quality
Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - Menogon 19-30Sep, Buserelin 19-30Sep, Zomacton 19 21 23 25 27 Sep, Ovitrelle 1 Oct, ER 3 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 excellent quality
Fav Quote: The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return
All the ladies from the PUPO club, anybody feels anything? Any crazy intuition going?
For example I looked at the picture of the embaby we transfered and imidiatly told DH that it is a boy so I m pretty sure if it sticks we will have a boy. Even though I originally wanted a girl. I can't explain that. Anybody else with something like that?
TTC since Aug 2015,
BFP Apr 2017 - late diagnosed EP, right tube removed, left tube scarred.
Dx: tubal IF
IVF Sept 2017, 7 R, 6M, 6F- 4 blasts, 1 transferred fresh - CP
FET #1 Dec 2017- BFN
FET #2 Jan 2018- CP
FET #3 BFP!!! EDD 12/15/2018!
Afm i I am officially PUPO!!!! Gosh that is so cool to say . I don't think I've ever been more uncomfortable than I was in the waiting room with 1.5 liters of water making it's way to my bladder and knowing it was going to be an hour before I could pee! But so worth it Beta is 10/4, I'm debating telling DH it's going to be the day after that so I could potentially suprise him if it's positive. IVF takes a lot of the suprise out of pregnancy so id love to find a way to take this one thing back.
Starting progesterone in oil tonight, any of you ladies have to do these yourself? Any tips??
BTW, correction for my PUPO info: 20nd Sep 1x day 6 frozen transfer, PIO, beta Sept 30
DecemberDoll27 - wow, my parents do the things your grandma does. Almost in those exact words. And they do know about my problems and all. I think they hold it against me that I found a person I want to have children with later in life, like it was my choice. Grrr.
On the "feel anything as a PUPO" - today is my 4dp6dt, and yesterday I had cramps - just this nagging dull pain and comfortableness. Still feeling a bit of it today, but not as much. On the day of transfer my blood progesterone was waaaay low (2.7), and I pretty much decided that it's all over. I was switched from suppositories to PIO right away, but I kept thinking that it's too late. I don't know why - before the transfer I felt very hopeful. Yesterday that hopefulness returned again. I feel like my uterus is a bit "sore", and I now got the positive outlook back - something is happening there. Might be just from switching the hormones, or maybe even just an echo pain from the PIO shots, but I now believe in success again. My little boy bean is growing strong (we know the gender), attaching deeper to a nutrients-rich spot. I too look at the embryo picture I got right before the transfer, and keep believing that it will work.
My story in signature spoiler. Children mentioned.
I don't produce FSH, so no natural menstrual cycle. DH has reduced morphology.
Summer 2014 IUI (with first husband): cancelled after almost a month of stims due to too many follicles
Time off to divorce, get back on my feet, find a new hubby and get married again 💑
March 2017 IVF#1: ~70 follicles, 13R, 10M, 7F, 3B = 2 PGS Normal (both XY) - no transfer due to ohss
Sept 2017 FET#1: BFP, Beta#1 (10dpt) - 253, Beta#2 (12dpt) - 528, DS born 05/31/2018 👨👩👦
Dec 2019 FET#2: BFN
Changed clinic, planning March 2020 IVF#2 - postponed due to the pandemic
April 2020 IVF #2: ~30 follicles, 24R, 12M, 8F, 4B = 2XY & 2XX, all normal
Sept 2020 FET#3: one XX embryo, BFP, Beta#1 (9dpt) - 161, Beta#2 (11dpt) - 519, Beta#3 (19dpt) - 7174, Due date 05/30/2021
DD born 05/23/2021 👨👩👧👦 - My family is now complete
@emmasemm. Yes! I think FET will be early November, hopefully in time for positive betas by Thanksgiving!!!
Thanks ladies for all the love!!!
I just got home a little bit ago, and we are going to settle in and rest, but it went well! We know they were not all mature, and we have to wait til Monday for the fert report but...
<div class="Spoiler">We got 21 eggs!!!!<img alt="" src="https://us.v-cdn.net/5020794/uploads/editor/m5/e2qbagrwti57.gif"></div>
The nurse told me they get fertilized about 5 hours later, and the procedure went from 7:05AM to 7:25AM, I was back resting and waking. So praying for beautiful fertilization, and thinking of them especially around noontime when my lil girls get to meet their boyfriends!!! :D
*autocorrect typo
AFM its only 1dp3dt so lots of bloating still and crampiness. So much so I woke up twice in the middle of the night with some (what I am assuming) gas pain. I also slept like 10.5 hours last night... bless DH for letting me sleep in. This time he is forcing me to take it very easy, doting on me and making sure I don't get a wild hair and decide to go out and till the garden for winter crops or something crazy like that.
SO I am bored. VERY BORED. I get laundry and vacuuming duty. And meal planning/invite making for our Christmas gathering (we are hosting his parents and sister/her family for Christmas this year... sooooo that should be fun.)
At least October is shaping up to be a great month, our 3rd anniversary escape to the mountains in Vermont, and we see the Boston Symphony Orchestra perform Nightmare Before Christmas on Halloween!
@BusinessWife FX for your retrieval this morning!
@loverin CONGRATS on joining the PUPO club!
@DecemberDoll27 As far as symptoms, I wouldn't think I should feel anything for another few days since it was a Day3 transfer but I am super twingy, tired and have sore nipples (sorry if TMI, but these were sore even a few days before retrieval this time... weird.)
Also: I swear I have no idea if the Crinone is 'in there' or I'm getting it all in.... my applicator is a two piece thingy and doesn't look like the ones I find in online videos... and UGH. #discharge But I guess its somewhat better than a shot in the a$$ every night?
My story in signature spoiler. Children mentioned.
I don't produce FSH, so no natural menstrual cycle. DH has reduced morphology.
Summer 2014 IUI (with first husband): cancelled after almost a month of stims due to too many follicles
Time off to divorce, get back on my feet, find a new hubby and get married again 💑
March 2017 IVF#1: ~70 follicles, 13R, 10M, 7F, 3B = 2 PGS Normal (both XY) - no transfer due to ohss
Sept 2017 FET#1: BFP, Beta#1 (10dpt) - 253, Beta#2 (12dpt) - 528, DS born 05/31/2018 👨👩👦
Dec 2019 FET#2: BFN
Changed clinic, planning March 2020 IVF#2 - postponed due to the pandemic
April 2020 IVF #2: ~30 follicles, 24R, 12M, 8F, 4B = 2XY & 2XX, all normal
Sept 2020 FET#3: one XX embryo, BFP, Beta#1 (9dpt) - 161, Beta#2 (11dpt) - 519, Beta#3 (19dpt) - 7174, Due date 05/30/2021
DD born 05/23/2021 👨👩👧👦 - My family is now complete
Fx for a great fert report @BusinessWife That’s a promising number of eggs!
Thanks @Hopeful_mom So glad you finally got to transfer! I think of your negative microdose lupron protocol experience from time to time since that’s what I’m on now - but trying to keep the faith.
@emmasemm That sounds like a great party, though the multiple pregnancy announcements a little challenging. I admire your grace . We also got married last year though I’ll be 40 in a couple of weeks. I also feel you on the ridiculous (for just two people) house in a neighborhood with tons of young kids (“well, we *TW* WERE pregnant when we bought the house...”*end TW*). Sometimes when people ask about our kid plans (like a pregnant coworker did just the other day), I will just tell them about our *TW* loss (she was further along than 12 weeks).
@cmiller73 That sounds like a lovely anniversary trip!
AFM, I had my first monitoring appointment Friday morning (after 3 nights of stims) and the Dr. reduced my stims (from 450 to 375, down to 300 tomorrow night). I had couple 11s and 7 less than 10 on the R and like a 12 and an 11 and 6 less than 10 on the L. Lining already 10mm and trilaminar. At first after the u/s, he said I didn’t need blood work and to continue on the same dose, but the nurse had already drawn my blood so he took a look and subsequently decided to make a change based on the blood work (I was kind of wondering about my E2 anyway b/c of CM so early...).
New RE, but this is actually the first time I’ve had stims reduced, so I don’t know what that means in terms of how this will end up. Anyone had any experience with stepping down stims? Good news is that as of Friday AM I had no dominant follicle about which I was concerned since I had no suppression before. Next appt isn’t till Tuesday (because of my preferred location).
Hope everyone’s having a great weekend!
Married 6/18/16 (Me 42, DH 44), TTC #2
***TW***
As of 12/2016: AMH 1.42, FSH 6.1, AFC ~10
Self-benched Nov-Dec 2016 for
IVF #1 Jan-Feb 2017 (OCP, testosterone primed antagonist w/HGH - ER 2/2/17 - 12R, 7M ICSI'd, 3F, 0B)
IVF #2 Mar-Apr 2017 (testosterone primed agonist/luteal lupron w/HGH - ER 4/8/17 - 10R, 8M, 8F, 5B, 1 PGS normal)
IVF #3 May-Jun 2017 (testosterone primed agonist/luteal lupron w/HGH - ER 6/4/17 - 14R, 5F, 3B, 0 normal)
**New RE**
IVF #4 Sept 2017 (natural start microdose lupron flare w/HGH - ER 9/28/17 - 33R, 18F, 10B, 4 PGS normals!)
FET #1 (medicated) of one PGS normal 4AA XX 11/2/17 - Beta #1 11/11/17 (153), Beta #2 11/13/17 (324), mc at 5w1d on 11/19/17
IVF #5 Dec 2017 - Insemination of 9 frozen eggs from 2012 (8F, 1B, 0 normal)
Jan 2018 - Natural cycle ERA (normal/receptive) & stimming for
IVF #6 Jan-Feb 2018 (natural start microdose lupron flare w/HGH - ER 2/3/18 - 17R, 6M, 4F, 0 blasts)
IVF #7 Feb 2018 (natural start microdose lupron flare w/HGH - ER 2/26/18 - 19R, 9M, 9F, 4B, 2 PGS normals)
FET #2 Apr 2018 (natural cycle w/o trigger, w/P4 support) of one PGS normal 4AA- XX 4/5/18 - Beta #1 4/14/18 (67), Beta #2 4/16/18 (231)
Rainbow baby girl born 12/16/2018 (via c-section, induced at 39 weeks)
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TFAS!
FET #3 Dec 2019 (natural cycle w/o trigger, w/P4 support) of one PGS normal 3BB XY 12/16/19 - Beta #1 12/24/19 (139), Beta #2 12/27/19 (482)
@artemis618 I don't have personal experience but as long as you don't have a dominant follicle I imagine it should be fine!
@cmiller76 I've been on crinone before and was reassured that it does get in there even if you have remnants on the applicator or extensive buildup. GL!
Afm -- thanks for asking @emmasemm, I'm doing ok. I now have 7 follicles between 10-14mm so my RE is expecting a retrieval on Thurs or Fri. I hope a few more will catch up between now and then. The increase in Follistim did help significantly but I guess I was hoping for more? I'll be giving my ovaries a @businesswife style pep talk each day between now and my next monitoring appt on Tues!
@Hopeful_mom hi! Good,but sad to see you back. I'm so sorry about our May transfers. I think that's where we met last. Best of luck with this beta on wednesday!!! Fingers crossed for you!
cmiller73 how many times a day are you doing the crinone? I did it for my fresh transfer and it was fine! After a few weeks i had too much build up. The tip they gave me now and should've gave me last time is to walk around after u do it...and it won't be as messy and clumpy!! This time its killing me cause i'm doing it 2x a day and my vag is just to sensitive, i'm in so much pain so will be switching it to PIO every day now. Take it easy for sure let you lil pnuts start to snuggle on in!
artemis618 glad things are going smoothly! Remember that protocol works miracles on others our age so it could be a magical protocol for u it just wasnt for me. Was it because i did cycles back to back who knows...no reason it wont work...I'm not part of the majority. Its good you're RE is watching u closely! I wouldn't worry too much about taking down the dosage.
AFM: Was up at 7a in pain and first fell bac asleep a few hours later...I literally want to rip my vag off!! I heard bac from my RE and he agrees I'm having a reaction to the crinone (my vag is very sensitive..I"m rare I"m sure anyone else taking it will be fine!!) and I think for now will switch to just PIO and see how that goes. We already know my butt will not thank me but it is what it is...this is killing me to no end. The only good thing is he reminded me this can't hurt my pnut just me...so that makes me feel a lil better.
Unexplained Infertility - but I am 40...Low AMH .30
7 - IUI (50mg-150mg Clomid) Feb - August 2016 all BFN
IVF#1 August 2016 (Antagonist protocol 4/5 eggs) Cancelled cycle RE thought I would get at least 10.
IVF#2 Sept 2016 (microdose luporn pro - disappearing follies, ONLY ONE, convert to IUI) BFN
IVF#3 November 2016 (4 ER, 3 F, 3DT)-BFP with TWINS // MC both at almost 10wks
IVF#4 March 2017 //EPP (10 ER (1 wonky so 9 ER) 7F, 3B (5AB, (2)5BB) PGS tested- ALL abnormal
IVF#5 April 2017 // EPP (7 ER, 7F yes! 6B) 2/5 day 4/6 day - 2 PGS normal! yes!!
IVF#6 May 2017 // Antagonist didn't have time for Estrogen Priming...(4 ER, 3 F, 3B) (5AB, (2) 5BB) 2 PGS normal, yes!!
IVF#7 June 2017 // EPP praying this is it and then on to an FET!
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kJctnUODjHMslMgogYS5A940wZTHwJZ_PF_RDAxHWAM/edit?usp=sharing
So ladies, let's see if this works or not!
Above is the link to our little spreadsheet. If anyone would like to be added or have info changed, please tag me or send me a pm. If anyone would like to be taken off, please just send me a pm.
@decemberdoll27 @fuzzydustYes I am also looking at the photo of our emby pretty often...
@loverin welcome to the club!!! I love your idea with DH!
@businesswife wow that's an awesome number of eggs!
@cmiller73 my DH is exactly the same, telling me to sit my ass on the couch the whole time!
@artemis618 great news there is no dominant follicle and fx for Tuesday that you are good to trigger this week
@adirat 7 good quality eggs would be great wouldn't it? But I think the pep talk for the rest of the week can't do any harm lol
@hopeful_mom I am soooooo hoping you can start our run of BFPs on Wednesday!!!
And now it's bed time for me here in Europe. Wish you all a relaxing Sunday evening and OMG this is going to be another rollercoaster week for the Sep crew!
Married 12/2016
TTC #1 since 04/2015
AMA, DOR (AMH 0.65, AFC 2-4) and autoimmune issues (RA, APS), low TSH, adenomyosis
7 retrievals, 3 transfers
Nov17 IVF2 - 1ER, 0F
Jan18 IVF3 - 3ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN
Feb18 - second opinion and additional testing
Apr18 IVF4 - cancelled (E2 too high)
May/Jun18 IVF4 - 4ER, 0M, 1F, 1 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - 5 ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - 4ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (good quality)
Aug/Sep18 IVF7 - cancelled (cyst)
Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - 3ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen Day 3 (excellent quality)
Oct18 IVF8 - Cancelled (cyst and too low TSH)
Oct18-Jan19 bringing TSH under control
Feb19 ERA and hysteroscopy
Mar19 Investigation for fibroid and adenomyosis
Apr19 adenomyosis confirmed, polyps removed
Jun19 FET after 2 months Lupron, autoimmune protocol, transferred two day 3 frozen embryos
Nov17 IVF2 - Pergoveris 2-14 Nov, Orgalutran 5-14 Nov, Ovitrelle 15 Nov, ER 17 Nov for 3 follies, 1 mature egg, did not fertilize
Jan18 IVF3 - Pergoveris 30 Dec - 8 Jan, Orgalutran 5-8 Jan, Ovitrelle 9 Jan, ER 11 Jan 3 eggs, 2 mature, 1 fertilized, ET 1x 4d 12-cell embryo 15/01, 24/01 BFN
May/Jun18 IVF4 - Rekovelle 25-29 May, Menogon 30May - 2Jun, Zomacton 25 27 29 31 May and 2Jun, Cetrotide 30May - 3Jun, Gonasi 3Jun, ER 5Jun 4 eggs, none mature, two matured overnight, 1 fertilized with ICSI, Frozen day 3 but not good quality
Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - Rekovelle 21-24 June, Menogon 25Jun-3Jul, Puregon 4-5Jul, Zomacton 21 23 25 27 29 Jun, Cetrotide 25Jun-5Jul, Gonasi 6Jul, ER 8Jul 5 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 but not good quality
Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - Rekovelle 26-29 Jul, Menogon 30Jul-7Aug, Buserelin 26Jul-7Aug, Zomacton 26 28 30 Jul 1 3 Aug, Gonasi 7Aug, ER 9Aug 4 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized (normal IVF), 2 frozen day 3 good quality
Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - Menogon 19-30Sep, Buserelin 19-30Sep, Zomacton 19 21 23 25 27 Sep, Ovitrelle 1 Oct, ER 3 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 excellent quality
Fav Quote: The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return
WOWZERS @BusinessWife, that is an awesome retrieval! FX for a great fert report
Who was asking about self administering PIO? Really, it is not that bad, its all about the technique and my nurse really helped set my mind at ease. Thumb on the hip, stretch out your fingers parallel to the floor and then pinch. AKA: "grab your muffin top" according to my nurse! I iced the area first and didn't feel a thing, my previous FET my hubby did my injections and we did not ice and I felt it all. Have faith in your strength! and Thank the Lord for 25g injection needles (and not the thicker ones they send for mixing!)
Unexplained Infertility - but I am 40...Low AMH .30
7 - IUI (50mg-150mg Clomid) Feb - August 2016 all BFN
IVF#1 August 2016 (Antagonist protocol 4/5 eggs) Cancelled cycle RE thought I would get at least 10.
IVF#2 Sept 2016 (microdose luporn pro - disappearing follies, ONLY ONE, convert to IUI) BFN
IVF#3 November 2016 (4 ER, 3 F, 3DT)-BFP with TWINS // MC both at almost 10wks
IVF#4 March 2017 //EPP (10 ER (1 wonky so 9 ER) 7F, 3B (5AB, (2)5BB) PGS tested- ALL abnormal
IVF#5 April 2017 // EPP (7 ER, 7F yes! 6B) 2/5 day 4/6 day - 2 PGS normal! yes!!
IVF#6 May 2017 // Antagonist didn't have time for Estrogen Priming...(4 ER, 3 F, 3B) (5AB, (2) 5BB) 2 PGS normal, yes!!
IVF#7 June 2017 // EPP praying this is it and then on to an FET!
@emmasemm you are fantasticaly awesome for putting that spreadsheet together!
AFM, I am spotting a little and it freaks me out! ( I know it could be a million of different things like implantation bleeding or cervix irritated by vaginal inserts, or my ohhh so lovely stitch in my V post ER). *TW I think I am having a flash back into my EP nightmare and spotting was the first thing that started it* end TW and I think my boob hurt less today, and it is stupid but it makes me upset too!
I did not tell DH since he is stresses already. My step son twisted his ankle today badly so we spent our morning in the ER. He is ok now so that's good news.
I am crazy and I know it, I freak out and think the worst about every little thing. I wish I could talk to my mom about it, but she does not know about our IVF adventure ( I told her we will do it in 2018)
Sorry for the load of pessimism but I have no other outlet. I just hope my little peanut is fine in there
TTC since Aug 2015,
BFP Apr 2017 - late diagnosed EP, right tube removed, left tube scarred.
Dx: tubal IF
IVF Sept 2017, 7 R, 6M, 6F- 4 blasts, 1 transferred fresh - CP
FET #1 Dec 2017- BFN
FET #2 Jan 2018- CP
FET #3 BFP!!! EDD 12/15/2018!
Unexplained Infertility - but I am 40...Low AMH .30
7 - IUI (50mg-150mg Clomid) Feb - August 2016 all BFN
IVF#1 August 2016 (Antagonist protocol 4/5 eggs) Cancelled cycle RE thought I would get at least 10.
IVF#2 Sept 2016 (microdose luporn pro - disappearing follies, ONLY ONE, convert to IUI) BFN
IVF#3 November 2016 (4 ER, 3 F, 3DT)-BFP with TWINS // MC both at almost 10wks
IVF#4 March 2017 //EPP (10 ER (1 wonky so 9 ER) 7F, 3B (5AB, (2)5BB) PGS tested- ALL abnormal
IVF#5 April 2017 // EPP (7 ER, 7F yes! 6B) 2/5 day 4/6 day - 2 PGS normal! yes!!
IVF#6 May 2017 // Antagonist didn't have time for Estrogen Priming...(4 ER, 3 F, 3B) (5AB, (2) 5BB) 2 PGS normal, yes!!
IVF#7 June 2017 // EPP praying this is it and then on to an FET!
@DecemberDoll27 Hugs, that stuff can really twist your mind because every symptom can be for pregnancy or for AF. Keep breathing until your beta! I'm glad your stepson is ok.
I just need to calm down.
Hopeful_mom are you planning on doing hpt before beta?
TTC since Aug 2015,
BFP Apr 2017 - late diagnosed EP, right tube removed, left tube scarred.
Dx: tubal IF
IVF Sept 2017, 7 R, 6M, 6F- 4 blasts, 1 transferred fresh - CP
FET #1 Dec 2017- BFN
FET #2 Jan 2018- CP
FET #3 BFP!!! EDD 12/15/2018!
@emmasemm you are too sweet to do a spreadsheet!
@hopefulmom I waited in the waiting room for 30 minutes, then did the transfer and THEN had to wait another 20 minutes. Stick me with needles all day, I was miserable! My DH works at an ER an hour away so I was planning to have to do some pio shots myself but after the first night I've already resigned myself to driving if need be. I've done all my own shots so far but there is a mental block with me and the 22 gage needles!
DecemberDoll27 I usually give in the day before...I like that i say usually when there really was the one other time last november. With my fire vag it has been a distraction to say the least...
Unexplained Infertility - but I am 40...Low AMH .30
7 - IUI (50mg-150mg Clomid) Feb - August 2016 all BFN
IVF#1 August 2016 (Antagonist protocol 4/5 eggs) Cancelled cycle RE thought I would get at least 10.
IVF#2 Sept 2016 (microdose luporn pro - disappearing follies, ONLY ONE, convert to IUI) BFN
IVF#3 November 2016 (4 ER, 3 F, 3DT)-BFP with TWINS // MC both at almost 10wks
IVF#4 March 2017 //EPP (10 ER (1 wonky so 9 ER) 7F, 3B (5AB, (2)5BB) PGS tested- ALL abnormal
IVF#5 April 2017 // EPP (7 ER, 7F yes! 6B) 2/5 day 4/6 day - 2 PGS normal! yes!!
IVF#6 May 2017 // Antagonist didn't have time for Estrogen Priming...(4 ER, 3 F, 3B) (5AB, (2) 5BB) 2 PGS normal, yes!!
IVF#7 June 2017 // EPP praying this is it and then on to an FET!