July FET

prudence9-2 · July 2017

@Ash_SE crazy that the progesterone would cause this! Glad you're feeling better!!

@nmtay sorry to hear you're bumped for August... join us on the August thread! I'm also having the next FET then

roadtobaby · July 2017

Today went really well, hubby wasn't able to go so I drove, and my mom went with me. It was so quick, I'm now on bed rest. They choose two out of 10 embies, all our embies were the highest level of grading so super excited. So just on bed rest for the next 24 hours but if DH has anything to say about it I'm on bed rest until the rest of pregnancy. I have just been dreaming.....beta test loading.

Ash_SE · July 2017

@roadtobaby glad it went well. I was shocked at how quick it all was and honestly how business like/impersonal it was but it is a medical procedure after all I guess.

Are your embryos PGS tested ?

Hopeful_mom · July 2017

Hi ladies - I didn't think I missed that much but I"ve got a lot to catch up on...I haven't stopped working all day and this is my break...researching on a different website for me

You'll have to forgive my spelling mistakes!

Ash_SE

you and your gas! Sorry that pressure is the worst I know it all too well, I hate when I have it for the US and then she has to press down to see my follies because of the gas geeeeezzzzz! Big thumbs up to hubby thats a keeper! I think my OH would totally blame me. He use to be polite and shoo me away when he had to blow, now I dont even get that - is that just true love. Oh its so romantic ha!! How do you feel? You did it, you are PUPO, woo hoo!!!!! Are you going to POAS?? Sending you all the sticky vibes in the world!! And as for the heat, hella yes!!! I always felt like i was super hot at night and it would take a while for my body to cool down before being able to sleep. OH thought it was great in the winter as he didn't need the heater, he had hes own personal one right next to him!

As for the testing reached out to Kwak Kim (thank u very much!) and u ladies Ash_SE angelbea are correct that the actual pricing of those tests shouldn't be as costly. But unfortunately with her too you HAVE to come in for a consultation and they have to do all these other things and thats 5k alone. So add that to just traveling to IL AND shes first taking appt for Sept

This just feels like a lose lose situation and I really hate that! Just hoping its a process that the g-ds are telling me I dont need!!! This is weighing on my decision of the FET this cycle as well!

@joneser1281 sweets you know we're WAY past weirdo with u right

says queen bee weirdo over here!! Sorry you're having pain down there! Hope its not a uti, is it burning when you pee? I know you dont want an exam ut I actually would call and ask what they say. When I was preggers I all of a sudden was having issues and it ended up I had a UTI which I have never had before. Granted then they werent sure BUT for that they did have me take antibiodics for!

slmurphy12 sounds like u already got the FET update...my calendar was the same to yours. Is there a couch to love seat i can try

I"m delirious tonight I'm so tired! And i'm with you in this process I am terrified to do anything! I'll add with doing IVF cycles back to back to back, my ovary's were quite huge that it was better I didn't.

angelbea you ladies are making me feel guilty with this exercising thing, I was actually ok that I didn't have to get down on myself for not making it to the gym in this process! ha!

I will say the grading system really is such a downer, the one cycle I had 5BA, 5BB, 5BC I was trying to stay hopeful but knew the grades weren't perfect, that was the cycle I got 2 back. I then have 3 // 5AA and i get 2 no's and an unknown, talk about disappointment! I"m glad you're feeling relaxed and ready to go, I"m so very excited for your transfer! I know this will be your sticky bean!!

@cashewchicken I need to save these links theres no way my brain can handle anymore tonight!! I know you're right, praying u are!! I still have so many things to weigh and that fact that this current project i'm on right now would be going through my transfer has pretty much sealed the deal that I'm not going to do the transfer...I know some of my projects can gets crazy and this one has turned into just that and I couldn't pass on it as I need the money to pay for all this. I've pushed my body to do everything and I'm afraid with all the stress and anxiety I'm asking it to do too much!

nmtay sorry you're getting bumped but lets hope I will be with you

roadtobaby congrats on being PUPO! Amazing hoe fast it goes and how expensive that is too! Hope you're beans are getting all comfy cozy! Is this your first transfer? best of luck to u!

AFM: I know I've been driving you all nuts and myself on the what I should be doing. This has been hard and I've been tormented on whether to do immunology testing and moving forward with my FET etc. I did finally chat with my RE and went through various options. Does she think I should transfer and feel fortunate - especially with my age, always love that reminder! BUT she says yes. However she also agreed that if I was planning to do another IVF cycle then now would be the time to do it as getting another normie after a pregnancy might be impossible. I did have a lot of things to weigh out. Including who would do my transfer. According to my calendar its possible the transfer wouldve ended up on the day I have an event for work where I will be insane and on my feet running around all day. I mentioned i'm a freelancer and work project to project. So this project that got pushed back from last month to now is full steam ahead. Which then changes my transfer day to over the weekend with a dr on call that I dont know...how am I suppose to feel comfortable with that. SO I've stopped taking my estrace and will not do an FET next week as planned. I've been waiting so long to do this and having just started a stressful job was just the icing on the cake that I just dont think its smart to do....have the worst headache

Man I rather be at my new kids concert right now!! Work sux, IVF sux! AND I think I will do another IVF cycle IF my body is up for it..will decide on that later too....I just never want to leave this place

I do thank you ladies for all the advice, as that's all i've been doing is over thinking everything this last week. I'm still going to hang as I adore this group of ladies, so I hope you'll bare with me and hopefully my fun cycle ahead

I know many of you think i'm bonkers, but something is just telling me not to do it. I've pushed my body month after month and knowing whats in store for me this coming week I think I"m just asking too much of myself.

roadtobaby · July 2017

@Ash_SE I don't think so, we did pre screening for DH n I and it came out all clear so do not think our Embryos were tested. I feel I go to one of the best clinics and my RE always says, he won't test what's not needed.

@hopeful_mom yes this is my first transfer and hopefully my last. We did ivf due to LSC and as soon as we found out we didn't want to wait. We didn't try any other options once all our options were weighed we chose what we think was best for us. And for you, I always say you know what's best for your body and mind if it's not now, try it later God has a way of showing us things we can't see. I cancelled a transfer in April because everything wasn't where I wanted it and I didn't want to keep popping estrogen into my body, I felt it wasn't going anywhere. So we cancelled n allowed my body to rest some more. This cycle was so easy n followed better I knew I made the right decision. I mean I got our babies transferred on 7/7/17....miracles? So don't beat yourself up too much at times we think we are making the wrong decision n it's actually the best one at the end. Praying for you n everyone here.

AFM: I have read all of the stories here and seen the support our journey has been easy. The hardest part after reading all your stories was DHs n I actually finding a DR that would give us the tests we wanted early on. They felt we were too young to be asking for such tests and also too premature as we had only been trying for like 5 months. But I knew something was wrong. Once that was done n I had the referral for the RE, I chose my RE and it has been good (financial nightmare), definitely not what we expected but I wouldn't trade my babies for anything. But in all I do I always believe God knows best.

angelbea · July 2017

Hopeful_Mom: I'm a huge believer is going with your gut, so I'm glad you are listening to that little voice in your head and waiting until the time is right for you. I also believe that a good, clear and calm midset is the single best thing you can have in this process, so getting yourself there is the most important thing you can do (and actually have control over!). My work has been exceedingly stressful all year, but just recently slowed down to a point where I feel almost bored. I am taking that as a sign that this is the right time for me. I am sure you will get there too, soon. We will be thinking of you and I hope you continue posting and letting us know how and where you are in the process.

Ash_SE · July 2017

@angelbea you are Monday right? Are you ready??

@hopeful_mom I'm a big believer in following your gut. I'll be praying for you and your journey! Please do stick around as you bring such joy and love to the thread.

Ash_SE · July 2017

Well I think the hormones are getting to me. I'm starting to obsess over symptoms and all things baby. It just feels weird to get this far !

I'm thinking about names. We know the embryo is a boy but are not planning on sharing that info. H decided that he didn't want the embryologist picking and so since we had equal quality on both sexes, we each put our hope in and both said boy! So we went with it. My family only had girls ( my sister and I ) and she has no kids and my mom and her sister (and my aunt only had girls) . My dad is an only child.

Now I'm obsessed with boy names. H really likes Donald (after his British grandfather) and my family names I would consider using are Miller ( family surname name for generations as in my family's house that is a huge farm and been in the family since the Revolutionary War is on Millers Lane) , Herbert ( my dad and great grandfathers name) and Rowen ( my maiden name is Rowe). Our last name is very very Scottish and 3 sllyables. I'm leaning towards pushing for Rowen Donald or Donald Herbert or Donald Miller Honestly I'm not a fan of Donald but I really think I'll lose that battle so it's not worth fighting.

angelbea · July 2017

Ash_SE: Yes, it is on Monday at 2 pm!! I'm so excited!! I'm curious as to what symptoms you are feeling? A few people I know have recently went through their 2WW and none felt any strong symptoms. One felt minor cramping which felt like her period coming. A few people I've known had no symptoms other than hating the smell of coffee! How strange! Speaking of coffee, are any of you still drinking it during the 2WW? I usually have one cup a day and would like to continue, but not sure if I should.

I love that you are coming up with names! I have already done that too and since I plan for the sex to be a surprise, I have a few boy names and only one girl name (as I know for sure that is the name I want, and it is the name of my DH's mom and my SIL). I like the idea of names that have some sort of family connection! First names that sound like last names (Miller and Rowan) are great too! My favorite boy name is my grandfather's name (Hugh), but it is kind of old fashioned, so not sure if my DH will agree. But those old fashioned names are kinda popular right now! I plan to read a baby book during my 2WW -- positive visualization!!

Hopeful_mom · July 2017

Ash_SE so amazing how different we all are!! How many embabies to you have on ice? I love that you both wanted the same thing so thats great and that you have the choice!! Thats how it should be! Glad you're having fun playing with the names! I like rowen and miller too! Its so interesting that Donald is british!!

angelbea excited your transfer is so close! I was thinking of both names too! I always want the name to have a connection and thats what is usually done in my family. However OH is not as agreeable at all so I know I will have that fight on my hand for sure! Even though I shouldn't as he already has 2 kids and had hes say, now its my turn

As for the coffee I did drink it when I got my bfp in my tww and I drink it now too, decaf as I love the flavoring for coffee not just for the extra pick me up. Once I did get preggers I cut down more cause I couldn't handle it...I got sick almost right out of the gate!

MMD1986 · July 2017

Sorry all, I'm hoping to catch up tomorrow. I know we have had lots of activity in the group lately. I have just been slammed busy at work. I almost cried at my desk Friday because all week things piled up faster than I could process them.

I do have a question for everyone doing estrogen patches though. Where have you been most successful with the location? I'm having trouble with them sticking for four days on my stomach.

Ash_SE · July 2017

@mmd1986 I put them on my butt cheeks. It was an option in the instructions and due to my other Lovenox and Neupogen shots my belly isn't an option. It's al covered in bruises and I need the spots for injecting.

I try to aim for the actual cheek down lower so to do to stay away from the PIO shot area but to the outside a bit. It stuck fine for 3 days for me.

Hopeful_mom · July 2017

MMD1986 Mine is suppose to last a week and I had issues with it staying on too. Someone suggested wiping the area down with alcohol first and I have to say that helped a bunch. I think I place in on the tummy a lil farther out from where I would normally do the shots.

I hear u on the work front, not sure how they expect so much to get done when they dont give you enough time to do it...I was at my computer all night friday! Hope u got to enjoy the weekend!

rachel2107 · July 2017

@Ash_SE that is so exciting that you already know the sex. The last 3 times we knew the sex and distracted ourselves with baby names and such. It seems that my husband really only produces girls so most likely we transferred a girl but since we didn't do testing this time, we have no clue. (Out of about 14 embryos tested, only 1 was a boy and 2 were inconclusive, the other 11 were girls)

AFM, I am also stressing about all of my symptoms or really non-symptoms. I gave in and tested this morning and it was a BFP!! But I am remaining cautiously optimistic because I had chemicals with my first 2 IVF cycles so until I see numbers, I won't believe it.

@angelbea I actually gave up coffee almost a year ago and I switched to organic green tea with ginger. There is minimal caffeine but enough to make me a happy person in the morning. You could try that if you want to give up coffee completely.

Ash_SE · July 2017

@cscher2 that's so exciting!!! A BFP is the first step you need!!

what symptoms are you having?

joneser1281 · July 2017

Ahhh I am so behind! I have been checking in to read posts, but haven't had time to post myself. So get ready for something longer than the Twilight saga...

Ok, catching up...

@angelbea You are so right! I've never had half of the health issues in my whole life as I've had with IVF! Ugh on the 2ml of PIO. I bet that's a MTHFR. It's hard enough pushing 1ml in. I think your laidback approach to just enjoying yourself up to transfer is great! Tomorrow is your big day! Sending you good vibes... Make sure you keep us updated!

@roadtobaby I'm glad your transfer went well! Sending you good vibes as well!

@cscher2 I can't believe you have to give PIO in your thighs! Ugh... That sounds worse than the bum. Isn't that funny that one clinic doesn't trust to shoot in bums, but others could care less? I remember when I had my injection class at my clinic last summer for my first IVF cycle. I mean, this wasn't a class... I sat down with a nurse for some demos and could ask questions, but mostly just sat with an iPad and watched demo videos. I could hardly believe I was not a nurse and was being trusted to shoot myself up with all of these needles! I was a wreck. Now I feel a bit of a pro (brushes dirt off shoulder) lol. Congrats on the BFP! You are so brave! I am terrified to POAS. Every time I have done it, it has been negative and I became so upset... Only to go have betas done and them be positive! I can remember last summer that I tested 6dp5dt, which is exactly where I am right now. It was negative and I was devastated. I went 3 days later for beta and it was 117.3. So I had basically put myself through an agonizing 3 days of thinking it would be negative and it was positive. It sometimes crosses my mind to do it, but I don't feel like putting myself through the agony haha. I too have had CPs, so I will just wait and see the numbers.

@slmurphy12 You should totally google the Couch to 5K program. It's online and completely free. There's a treadmill version and an outdoor running version. It's gradual and quite easy. I was never a runner, but it certainly helped me to become (kinda) one. I'm not sure what I will do as far as workouts if I end up with a BFP this time. I have been trying to stick to my workout schedule that I always have, but am just super modifying it. I've either been walking 2 miles on the treadmill (instead of running 2.5 - 3) or doing P90X3 super modified. I'll do the moves really slowly and take my time and not allow myself to break a sweat, take breaks, drink lots of water, etc. I always think that if anyone would see me working out like I am to that DVD, they'd think I was the slowest exerciser in the world lol. I feel like the Sit and Be Fit lady who helps old people workout by doing exercises from their chairs.

You are probably smart to take off after transfer if you have to lift dead weight like that. I keep thinking about the lifting thing as I do stuff around the house. I mean, a basket of laundry ain't light... When I go to the grocery store, my bags or a case of water are not light... I keep thinking what if I already had a 2 or 3 yr old child while going through this process. Would I not pick him/her up if he/she needed me? That would probably be more than we're supposed to lift. I am just doing things as I normally would, while trying not to overdo. I really don't know how else to live life.

@Ash_SE I was laughing at you burning up haha. I had a fever in the 90s after my FET in the fall. I mean later that afternoon I was sneezing like crazy, couldn't breathe, had a sore throat and a fever! I was sure things had failed. I was quite surprised to get a BFP after that. Glad you're feeling better. I do not even allow myself to think about baby names yet haha. I am so overly cautious that I'm afraid to plan anything baby, for fear it will jinx me!

@nmtay I'm sorry you are being bumped. I hate when things can't stay on schedule. I hope next month brings you your BFP!

@Hopeful_mom Ugh girl I am sorry. I'm with you on the work stress. I am fortunate to not have to work in the summertime, so I usually try to plan all of my IVF stuff for then. I don't know how you all go through this (especially fresh cycles) while working. I can imagine how stressful it is trying to balance all the work you have to do with this IVF stuff. I hope you will stay here with us though! I love reading your posts. I am sure you are making the right decision to wait until life has calmed down for you a bit.

@MMD1986 That sucks that work is crazy for you too... Just breathe! My Gram used to tell me not to worry, that everything comes and goes. I try to remember that when I'm overwhelmed with stuff to do that it will pass. Hope things calm down for you soon.

AFM, the last few days I've been a mess! Thursday night I was up all night because my hemorrhoid/vag issues kept me up all night! I mean the itching/irritation was so bad, I was ready to jump out of my skin. I contacted my clinic and of course they are no help, as they weren't with the breast cysts either. I had to talk to the nurse I'm not a big fan of and she said they suggest I call my OB and let them know and just to tell them I just had an ET. So I call my OB and of course she is not in the office on a Friday. I recently switched to her and I really like her and think she's good... But I can never schedule with her! If I want to see her, I always have to wait like a week or she's not in. So I saw another doctor there a few weeks ago when I went in to complain of irritation (which he told me was just an Estradiol side effect) and he was in on Friday. The nurse told me she'd send him a message about my situation and see what he said. Well it took HOURS for them to get back to me! Meanwhile I'm wanting to rip off my vajayjay and ass. Oh, he recommends that I go for a urine culture and urinalysis. If I still have symptoms, he'll see me on Monday. Gee thanks typical man who has no idea what this hell feels like... Sure, make me wait all weekend!

So I went for the tests and still don't know the results, but I don't think it's a UTI. I've had that before. I think it's probably a yeast infection. I am still in misery. That nurse at my clinic said it's ok to have a vaginal exam right now, especially if I think it's an infection. I'm just such a wreck about possibly upsetting anything in there right now. I don't want anyone poking around, but if leaving an infection untreated could also not be good... Ugh. Anyone have any experience with this? I feel like I have been searching the boards and all over the internet and can't find answers either way about what happens if you have a yeast infection days after ET. The nurse at my clinic said I could use external Monistat to help with relief. I tried the kind that I have that's for a yeast infection and it burned so bad I thought for sure I gave myself a chemical burn lol. Then I tried another Monistat cream that I have that's just for feminine itch. That is helping, but I don't think it's the cure. I am going to call the OB again tomorrow and I guess try to be seen... and be worried the whole time that I am ruining the embryo's chances of success. If I do have an infection and they prescribe me something, I'm also going to be afraid to take it for fear that it could mess things up. I know PG women get infections and take treatments, but this is SO early on. I just don't want to jeopardize implantation chances. So I've basically been doing a lot of crying and feeling anxious haha.

Honestly, something always has to happen during these FET cycles to me. For my fresh, no issues. In the fall I got sick as a dog after FET. Now I had the breast cysts and currently hemorrhoids and an unbearably itchy vag. Other than that, I've not really been having any symptoms, which totally plays with my mind. Not that I've had symptoms either time when I got BFPs. Last summer I can remember having some cramping the day before my beta. It was dull all day and I figured AF was coming, but then got a BFP. I've been very tired lately, but I'm also super behind on sleep from everything that's been going on... and anxious. A couple of days ago I felt some... I wouldn't go as far to say cramping... activity I guess is a good word for it. But it could have been nothing. That was only 4dpt so I'm sure that's way too early to feel anything. I go from thinking it had to have worked... To I'm certain it didn't. Ugh! 3 more days to go!

I'm ready for a nap. We had our big annual backyard bbq last night and I'm exhausted. People were playing beer pong til after midnight and the lasts didn't leave til 1230, so it was after 1 before I got into bed. Then had a hard time sleeping with my feminine issues. Then I had to get up at 8 for meds and scrub all of the mud in my house because it rained on and off all day yesterday and people had to come in for the bathroom and tracked mud everywhere. I had to fake drink to avoid questions because I generally whoop it up with the booze at this party haha. So what did I do, you ask? We bought a case of Henry's Hard Sparkling Lemon Lime. I washed out and saved an empty bottle and kept filling it with Sprite lol. Then even better I just changed it to water. No one could tell the difference, especially come evening. The things we do!

mtele · July 2017

Sorry I've been away for a few days, we've had friends visiting from out of town!

@Ash_SE and @roadtobaby - Congrats!

@slmurphy12 - I hear you on this process making me nervous to do anything. I used to work out a lot and have really cut back over the past year. At first I worried that working out too much might be making it harder to conceive, then between all the meds and not being able to work out for retrieval cycles, I've gained about 10 pounds. At this point, now I feel like it would be worse to try and jump back into it right before transfer.

@cashewchicken - Thank you for the articles, I will check them out!

@cscher2 - Eeeek BFP! Congrats! Fingers crossed it keeps getting stronger and you have good betas!

@Hopeful_mom - So sorry that you are going to have to wait even longer, but I'm glad that you are doing what you think is best for you. Keep us posted on your next step!

AFM, I don't have many appointments at all. I am going in on Thursday (day 14) for a lining check and if that looks good, then I start progesterone Sunday and transfer will be on Friday. I am a little nervous because I will be out of town Friday-Sunday and they said that is when they would have wanted me to come for an US. So if the lining isn't thick enough, I guess I will have to wait a few more days, but that will kind of screw things up at work...

I haven't had any problems with my patches sticking on, but I only leave them for 3 days. I feel like I've been kind of bloated/gassy too, and a bit constipated. I started taking colace and I'm hoping that will help!

Ash_SE · July 2017

@joneser1281 all I can say is I'm so sorry you feel horrid. The stress of worry isn't good . I'd say get some Tucks pads to try too. Also hopefully you get some meds in the morning and you should take them. Hugs.

angelbea · July 2017

Joneser1281: You need to get some Prep H suppositories and Tucks ASAP -- there is no need to suffer! (Although, they do say that hemorrhoids are a symptom of pregnancy, so maybe a good sign??) Also, as for the itch, I wonder if you are allergic to the vaginal suppositories you might be taking? I suppose just do the Monostat to see if that takes care of it. All those meds are totally pregnancy safe (confirmed by my DH who is a doc) so don't worry about it. Just get yourself on the mend so that you can relax and let that little bean burrow in:) btw, your posts are hilarious -- I look forward to reading them post-transfer, as they say laughing post-transfer is good;-)

Hopeful_mom · July 2017

cscher2 so exciting that you saw a positive how many dpt are you?? I'm sure you must be worried but at least u r in it thats the first step!

joneser1281 UGH!!!! So sorry you're in such pain that sux!! DO these Dr and nurses not get the pain that you're in! Unfortunately I know it all too well. I have a VERY sensitive vag! My OH likes to joke if you just blow out it the wrong way I"m in pain. I know this is going to sound strange BUT did you try plain yogurt? I had a similar issue it was also on a weekend and I was away. I remember sitting in the bathtub with yogurt to calm the area and pain, it did help for a while. Is it possible uve become allergic to the crinone?
Sounds like the bbq was fun, nice mocktail good for u for being sneaky! Shame on ur friends for not being more considerate, the clean up is never the fun part. Symptom spotting is hard and you gals are impressive and gutsy! POAS at 5 and 6dpt, my goodness! I gave in on day 8 before my beta as I wanted to know prior to work. Being tired is always a good sign so hopefully thats where you're at! Its really hard when it comes to the lifting thing. During my tww, I think I was 5/6 dpt and I was holding my friends son who was a heavy lil bundle and I kept wondering if this is too heavy. You'r e right if you had another child you would be picking them up. The problem is that its taking us all so long to get here that we're not like everyone else and we look to not do anything that could ruin it.

mtele good luck with ur lining check!

Ash_SE · July 2017

I'm going crazy. Today at 9:55 am will be 4dp5dt and I see people online and in FB groups testing this early. I just want to know but I don't you know? I don't want to get my hopes up but I don't want to be devastated and then have to keep doing shots and bw in case it's just too early. We only did 1 blast so I feel like ladies that get BFPs that early maybe did 2? I really want to wait until after the beta on Saturday . That way I'll know before they call with results so I'm not devastated in the call.

rachel2107 · July 2017

@Ash_SE I would suggest testing because not testing can be even more stressful. What I tell myself is that if it isn't 9dp5dt then I shouldn't be discouraged. My first two BFPs didn't come until 6dp6dt. Maybe test first thing tomorrow morning when you wake up? As for my symptoms, I am having a heavy feeling. It's hard to describe but I actually didn't have a pinching like I did the last two times. I guess every time really is different.

@Hopeful_mom I am currently 7dp5dt. I tested yesterday at 6dp5dt with a BFP that I didn't have to squint or take apart in order to see.

@joneser1281 I hope you have figured everything out and are feeling better. Nothing is worse than having something happen right after transfer!

Ash_SE · July 2017

Ugh I'm so mad at myself. Def Tested this morning once H had left for work. At 8:45 am after I had already peed twice so there was almost nothing in the cup. My transfer wasn't until 9:45 ish so I technically wasn't even 4dp5dt. It was negative of course.

Im taking this as a lesson learned. I won't be testing anymore until after the beta on Saturday. It is basically impossible for that to be positive right?

I just have so much into this FET. I really thought this was it for us after 10 years.

rachel2107 · July 2017

@Ash_SE don't worry about a bfn. There are so many people that get that result on 4dp5dt.

Ash_SE · July 2017

Thanks @cscher2. I feel better. I'm glad I got it out of my system.

I got my E2 and P4 tested this morning. My E2 was 315 but my P4 was only 9. I know that vag supps don't show up on bloodwork but the doctor did increase my PIO to every day instead of every other day. So more shots.... but hopefully it's worth it!

joneser1281 · July 2017

@angelbea I too have heard hemorrhoids are a PG symptom, but I am guessing that's when you are further along and the pressure of the baby is causing you to strain? I've also heard that yeast infections are a sign of PG... To me all of this shit always spells disaster... I take it as bad omens, but the glass is usually half empty with me lol. I am actually not taking suppositories right now. I took Endometrin as vaginal Progesterone last summer for my fresh transfer and hated it! It did cause irritation and spotting, which drove me crazy. I am doing the PIO injections this time instead, which is what I did in the fall too. I'm not a fan of needles, but it's definitely better than a suppository. I am glad you enjoy my posts and hope they will serve you with good implantation laughs lol. How did today go?!

@Hopeful_mom I too have a sensitive vag! It's the worst! She is so easily upset Lol. I have heard about trying the yogurt, but never actually did it. That's the only way you could get me to do yogurt because I sure as hell am not eating it... I find it disgusting lol. I am not taking Crinone or anything vaginally right now, so I guess it can't be that. Haha, well in my friends' defense, the yard was a muddy mess from the rain. Even if they took of their shoes to come in for the bathroom (most of them had on sandals) their feet themselves were muddy too, so it was a lose lose situation haha. You are so right too about the lifting. We are not like other women, in that we've had to go through so much to try to get PG and don't want to jeopardize anything... Hence me having nervous breakdowns the last few days about whatever is going on with me and ruining the embryo's chances haha.

@Ash_SE Girl why did you do that to yourself?! Did you not read my last post about testing early and getting false negatives?! Haha. I agree with you, don't test any more. It's wayyy to early for you. Those home tests aren't very sensitive.

Ok ladies, time for more Tales from Below My Waist lol. Also known as TMI, so prepare your reading glasses haha. Again, I was miserable last night. So this morning when I wake up, I call my OB first thing when they open at 8. Oh shocker, my regular OB is not in AGAIN! She's on vacation. So I asked if I could schedule with the other doctor I have seen, the one who on Friday consulted and sent me for the urinalysis/urine culture? He's not in either! I mean, why did they tell me on Friday that he could see me Monday if I wasn't feeling better?! Grrr! So I said fine, who else can I see? Well there was only one other doctor available, but her only opening today is at 8:30 (as I'm talking to them at like 8:10) or I can see a PA, NP, etc. I said I want to see a doctor, I live about 10 minutes away, I'll be there for 8:30. So I roll out of bed, throw on some deodorant and clothes, quickly brush my teeth and throw my hair into a ponytail. There was no time to shower... and I didn't even put my contacts in, just wore my glasses. Then I'm like crap... I need to do my PIO shot. I normally do it between 8 - 8:30 each morning, closer to 8:30. But I thought I have to do it now or else I'll be late with it. So I rushed through the process and I'm sure I'll be paying for it later. I didn't have time to warm it much under my armpit like I usually do, so it was really tough and painful going in. As soon as I was done injecting, there was blood in the syringe! I'm like what the shit?! I know they say if there is blood in the syringe to start, you're to get a new needle and start again, but this didn't appear until after I had finished. So who knows what I did with that! I'm guessing it's because I was rushing and was harsh with the injection. Moving along...

Long story short (yeah right, my stories are never short huh?), urinalysis and culture were normal from Friday (duh!) and I have... Wait for it... a yeast infection... AND bacterial vaginosis! Not one, but a double whammy! UGGGGGGG. I have had both before and even had them at the same time once, but why does this have to happen now?! I'm kinda peeved because maybe had they seen me on Friday, I might have only had one infection and maybe putting it off all weekend gave me two! The doctor said it's common to get these infections after any procedure, like the transfer. So she wanted to prescribe me Diflucan for the yeast and the 5-day gel inserts for the BV. Well I was not certain Diflucan is safe during pregnancy. The doctor said they allow it during pregnancy. Well I said I'd feel better with the cream/inserts. I know the PG packet of dos/donts from my clinic had said Monistat 3 day treatments were safe... Plus there have been times I have taken Diflucan in the past and it didn't knock out the infection as well for me. I'm sure she was just wondering how in the world I'm going to do two vaginal meds... Good thing I'm not on vaginal Progesterone! So she said to take the 3 day yeast treatment in the morning and do the 5 day BV treatment at night. What a mess! She also prescribed me some cream for my 'roid rage lol.

So there ya have it ladies... Two infections I have to take meds for... I am feeling pretty low about my embryo's chances with all of this, but I guess there is nothing I can do about it, but hope and pray. I mssged my clinic this morning to update them on what the OB said. It took hours for anyone to get back to me! Luckily it was the nurse that I love, but I just don't feel reassured. I wanted her to tell me not to worry... That neither these infections, nor the meds will have any effect on implantation... but she didn't. She just said she was sorry I wasn't feeling well and that my RE would recommend following the doctor's treatment plan with the cream treatment. Sigh! I wrote her back to ask if it is indeed better to use the cream rather than pill for yeast (because obviously a two day pill would be a lot more convenient), but no word back yet.

Oh and I did think of another symptom I have gotten post transfer... It's happened with both previous transfers and this one as well... Insane thirst! Even though I am drinking water constantly and don't feel dehydrated (I'm keeping an eye on the pee and it's either pale yellow or clear), I have chronic cotton mouth! My mouth is so dry and I'm constantly thirsty. That is my only action to report haha.

slmurphy12 · July 2017

@joneser1281 i swear to god we are soul sisters... lol you'll know why here in a second.
I'm sorry i haven't been on much lately everyone! I miss you guys and have been following along but I've been trying to keep myself busy so i don't drive myself mentally insane in the house googling every little symptom and success story. ( I do this a lot). It got so bad my DH took my phone away for a night because he says I'm getting too nervous. So i went to a blake shelton concert, had a absolute BLAST came home and had a little too much fun with DH ( sorry TMI), the next day woke up and felt great so i went for a long hike with my dogs then took my dad to dinner, and then today i had plans to spend the day at the pool with one of my best friends and her little kid. well last night i started feeling like i had a little bit of a UTI, so here i start drinking a TON of water and panicking that I'm gonna have one and its gonna ruin my transfer. so here i am, chugging my nalgene and bawling in the bathroom trying to pee while DH rolls his eyes and tells me I'm dramatic, but we all know if it was him he would be convinced his penis is falling off lol. So i woke up today, felt ok, went to the pool and of course the symptoms are so bad that i was peeing every five to ten minutes. so i call the clinic and ask for my nurse, well she's on freaking vacation until the 12. meanwhile I'm supposed to start my PIO on the 12 and transfer is set for the 17 in stone. so the NP calls me back i ask her about it and she says she needs a urine culture tomorrow. She didn't seem to concerned but I'm just so nervous I will be cancelled!! OF COURSE. i have gotten a UTI twice in my entire life and now i have one, one week before I'm trying to get pregnant. IM SO MADDDDDDDD!!!!
But i am trying to stay calm until my appt tomorrow! I hope everyone else is having a good start to their week!

slmurphy12 · July 2017

@joneser1281 i swear to god we are soul sisters... lol you'll know why here in a second.
I'm sorry i haven't been on much lately everyone! I miss you guys and have been following along but I've been trying to keep myself busy so i don't drive myself mentally insane in the house googling every little symptom and success story. ( I do this a lot). It got so bad my DH took my phone away for a night because he says I'm getting too nervous. So i went to a blake shelton concert, had a absolute BLAST came home and had a little too much fun with DH ( sorry TMI), the next day woke up and felt great so i went for a long hike with my dogs then took my dad to dinner, and then today i had plans to spend the day at the pool with one of my best friends and her little kid. well last night i started feeling like i had a little bit of a UTI, so here i start drinking a TON of water and panicking that I'm gonna have one and its gonna ruin my transfer. so here i am, chugging my nalgene and bawling in the bathroom trying to pee while DH rolls his eyes and tells me I'm dramatic, but we all know if it was him he would be convinced his penis is falling off lol. So i woke up today, felt ok, went to the pool and of course the symptoms are so bad that i was peeing every five to ten minutes. so i call the clinic and ask for my nurse, well she's on freaking vacation until the 12. meanwhile I'm supposed to start my PIO on the 12 and transfer is set for the 17 in stone. so the NP calls me back i ask her about it and she says she needs a urine culture tomorrow. She didn't seem to concerned but I'm just so nervous I will be cancelled!! OF COURSE. i have gotten a UTI twice in my entire life and now i have one, one week before I'm trying to get pregnant. IM SO MADDDDDDDD!!!!
But i am trying to stay calm until my appt tomorrow! I hope everyone else is having a good start to their week!

Ash_SE · July 2017

@angelbea how did today go??

angelbea · July 2017

The transfer went well yesterday! I did acupuncture before and after (do not ask how much it cost -- I didn't even tell my DH, he would have passed out). I didn't drink enough water, so they had be drink more until I was "uncomfortable", which happened quickly, and as for the procedure, it does hurt/pinch when they put the q-tip (or whatever) to open the cervix, and then the catheter but it really was so quick. They emptied my bladder for me after with a catheter, which was nice, since they gave me valium beforehand, so I didn't have to stumble to the bathroom. The embryo was almost completely hatched so I'm hopeful that means it is anxious to implant quickly! They even gave me a picture of it -- DH said it looks like a ladybug, which are good luck, so I'm calling it that now:-) Went home and watched funny movies (Bridesmaids, The Boss, Neighbors 2, for those that need recommendations) and had DH wait on me:) I'm home alone the next 2 days as he is away for work, but have a friend coming over with dinner so that we can watch Real Housewives of OC together;-) (Btw, I live in the OC and these "ladies" give it such a bad name! It's really nothing like that...well, maybe parts....) My RE instructs 72 hours of bed rest, but I get up to use the restroom, make a quick meal, etc. I am sure the pathological symptom spotting will start soon.......ugh!

joneser1281: You are killing me with the Tales from Below My Waist saga! I literally guffawed. Oh, you are funny....but bummer you got hit with the double whammy. Glad it's not too serious and that meds can help. Please don't think they will have any effect -- they are honestly so safe. I truly believe that there is so little that you can do to affect this whole process. Your little bean is STRONG and I just know all will work out. That thirst is a definite symptom! Keep the faith!! And keep the funny commentary coming...although I hope not at the expense of your vag anymore;-)

slmurphy12: Ugh - the dreaded UTI! I got one right before I started by my cycle and was so worried. And like you, I haven't had one in years, so I was thinking: what bad luck! But I called my clinic and they said not to worry at all. In fact, my clinic puts all patients on antibiotics a week before transfer anyway, just to stave off any potential infection, so maybe it could actually be a good thing for you to get on them! Silver lining:)

mtele · July 2017

@angelbea - Congrats!!!! Enjoy your funny movies and bed rest!

rachel2107 · July 2017

@angelbea Congrats on being PUPO!! Enjoy your movies and bed rest!! I actually found a funny show (oddly enough from TV Land) called Younger. I binged it through my bed rest. I think you can watch it on HULU now.

AFM, I was able to get my first beta today at 8dp5dt and it came back at 90. Not too high but also not too low either. I know most clinics want to see anything over 50 by 9dp5dt so in that respect, it looks promising! Plus my first two chemicals were at 22 and 17 on 8dp6dt so a much better start this time! Now I have to wait until Friday for beta number 2.

angelbea · July 2017

Yayyyyyy cscher2! Such wonderful news and excellent beta!!

joneser1281 · July 2017

@slmurphy12 Hey soul sister, ain't that Mister Mister on the radio... I have been singing that since reading your post lol. OMG! I can't believe it, we are soul sisters haha, in more ways than one! I too am always googling everything! Symptoms, success stories, devastating stories... Ahhh! I swear I make myself more nervous and worked up with all of it. I laughed when you said DH had to take your phone away. My DH would have totally rolled his eyes too with the stressing about an infection. He thinks I'm dramatic too haha. But look, you were right because your symptoms got worse! And yes! I'm married to a "tough guy" too, but when he's sick or has an ailment, look out! Haha. I can't believe your nurse was on vaca too, just like my OB. How can they do this to us? Lol. How did your appt go today? Did you get results for the culture? FX for you that it's quickly resolved and you can stay on schedule!

@angelbea I'm so glad your transfer went well! When we didn't hear from you, I was a little worried. They emptied your bladder for you? What service! Lol. I'm always interested in the different ways transfers are done. You had valium too and were given antibiotic leading to transfer? Man, I could have used that shit to avoid what I'm going through now! My clinic gives antibiotic for the day of the trial transfer (1 pill AM and 1 pill PM), but nothing for the actual transfer, which I find weird. I assume it could affect the embryo and that's why they don't. It sounds like you've been doing some fun and relaxing post transfer activities, which is good. I should be doing more stuff like that. All I've been doing is stressing. I'm glad you guffawed at my Tales lol. Every time something happens, I'm like only me. I should be writing a book about this stuff. I'm glad you seem to think the meds I've been instructed to take are safe... I'm not so sure... I'll get to that in a minute. Thank you so much for the positive encouragement! I definitely need it right now... I've been so down.

I am a zombie yet again today. I didn't sleep well once again due to my feminine issues and anxiety. I took my first of the 5 day Metronidazole gel inserts for the BV last night. I just kept thinking I hope this isn't ruining anything. Then this morning I was about to take my insert for the yeast infection (it's a 3 day over the counter cream... Comparable to Gyne-Lotrimin rather than Monistat) and I FINALLY heard back from my clinic from yesterday when I asked about the possibility of taking Diflucan. The nurse said when patients may be PG, they air on the side of caution and say to use external vaginal creams like Monistat to be safe. Well WTF?! Why not tell me that yesterday?! What if I had just went along with what the OB said and taken the Diflucan? I then did not put in the insert for the yeast this morning because I wrote back and said that made me nervous because I inserted the gel last night for BV. I asked if there was any other way to treat BV aside from the gel inserts? I also asked if I should just use the external Monistat cream instead of the inserts I was told to take by the OB? Well, NO RESPONSE! I mean it's been 6 hours! I just feel like they don't want to be responsible for what may/may not happen based on what I do. They push everything off onto the OB, but then I think won't come out and say that they really don't agree with the treatment. Why can't they just tell me what to take/not take? An OB knows pregnancy, not embryo transfers... You guys know embryo transfers... Why can't you just help me? I'm so frustrated! If you thought all along I should just use external cream for the yeast, then say that! If you think there's a better treatment for BV, say that!!!!! Ugh.

I also came across a very emotional commercial for American Greetings cards today online. It had to do with IF. OMG, I sobbed. Then when I tried to tell my mom about it, I sobbed again! I was going to post it here because I think it's nice that they are taking into consideration IF, but then I didn't want to intentionally upset anyone. It's on youtube though, so if you are an emotional cutter like me lol, you can search for American Greetings commercial Not Alone. But you've been warned! Haha.

So tomorrow is the beta and I'm not feeling particularly optimistic. I know there's no real way to be sure until tomorrow... This will be a sleepless night for sure!

rachel2107 · July 2017

@joneser1281 I saw they American Greetings commercial on a blog that I follow and was crying too!! It really does a good job of not sugar coating anything about infertility.

Also, good luck tomorrow!! Fingers crossed for a good beta!

joneser1281 · July 2017

@cscher2 Congrats on the good beta! That's great! I would call that a good strong first number too. How did you manage to get a blood test already? Who do you know? What's your secret? Can I get in? Lol.

I know, that commercial... I've watched it several times and cried each time. I think it really gets me at the baby shower... You think it's going to be for the woman who's been trying and it's not and you can tell she's trying to be so strong and trying to be happy for her PG friend... and then the way her other friend looks at her... I'm crying again just thinking about it! Haha.

Thanks for the well wishes for tomorrow. I actually ended up calling my clinic because my online message from this morning was never answered and I was just feeling too miserable. I had to leave a message and didn't think it would be answered until tomorrow. But my favorite nurse then messaged me online. Why she didn't call, I don't know... I think they are not supposed to return phone messages after 3 until the next business day, so maybe she was just trying to get back to me without getting herself in trouble. She said for me to use the medications as they were prescribed. My RE says treating the infection is important and will help with the symptoms. Ok, enough arm twisting. I stuck in the yeast insert that I didn't do this morning. I can't take it anymore. I guess I just have to hope the embie is sticky enough regardless. Also, DH and I are leaving for the beach on Saturday and I really need the vag to be fixed for swimsuit, water, and sand climate. I should probably take extra creams with me for backup!

Hopeful_mom · July 2017

Ash_SE i'm glad you got it out of your system, just hang in there. 4dpt is really early! Many get positives after that for sure so ur still PUPO!!!

@joneser1281 OMG the trauma and drama!! poor poor vag! Not a story you certainly want to share with many. I'm laughing at you writing a book - i say lets do one together. I've been saying that for the last year already

theres just so much we go through that are not in the books and your RE doesn't really think to explain to you. They see just so many people its probably hard to keep up! Something like disappearing follies i think is important to know so when you go through it you dont cry like a crazy person and wonder why this is happening to you, just an example

I can't believe you got a double yammy and you hate yogurt! The yogurt wouldve given you some relief though! Glad they figured it out but sorry its such a mess! Its interesting that the RE sends us to the OB and the OB will tell us to check with the RE. I got super sick and needed meds but didn't want to take anything and it was days before i got answers and relief. Unfortunately AF showed and then I just took meds, but it is annoyed! Especially when you want to rip your vag off from the inside out, i hate that i know what you're going through! I would pack lots of extra relief for yourself when you go away! You'll probably have to stay away from the water too. I swear by Diflucan! Monistat and all the over the counter stuff rip me apart, they are too strong and irritate me. Crazy how it is! I know that you feel its 1/2 glass empty but theres still no reason for this not to work! Just a crap start to it. Lil munchkin is way further up so I'm gonna stick with that and its getting all snuggly in there! hoping to hear good news from u tomorrow and you dont have to wait all day for the results!!

@slmurphy12 sorry you've got the sensitive vag too! I know you're scared and it sux but you're probably within the time frame to get it taken care of drink some cranberry juice too. Being a chic is tough! Its amazing how guys just dont get it thats why we have the babies! Well at least try too

I'm with you ladies @joneser1281 OH had to go to the eye dr and OMG the drama after. He had a procedure done and my sister went through the same thing....but OF COURSE his was way worse. He had to lay down and couldn't function for the rest of the day, r u kidding me! It does suck as I'm the one going through cycle after to cycle yet I have to worry that hes staying calm. OH actually took my computer away last week. I just can't stop researching and researching on it all. Good, bad and the ugly!

angelbea you're PUPO yay!!! I'm so jealous let emptied your bladder so you could relax that is AMAZING!!! I thought I was going to pee and TMI poop on the floor right after but I still stayed put for 1/2hr as told clenching everything in me!!! I too did acupuncture before and after and it is costly. Its like when your getting married and EVERYTHING is more expensive for the bride to be. It would be nice because of what we're going through for something to actual be less, HA what a thought! I like your movie choices! The grossest and best part of bridesmaids is the food poisoning! OMG who hasn't been there, that melissa mcarthy does crack me up! Glad you're relaxing and taking it easy so ur lil bean can get all cozy and comfy in there!!! Sending all the super sticky vibes!! AND you live in the OC, oh fancy you

I'm a RH junky always have bravo on.

cscher2 woohoo congrats on a great first beta! thats strong at 8dpt for sure, let it only continue!!! I love younger, new season just started, I like to binge watch that one too.

AFM: Worked all day and night, i'm still at it but taking a longer break today! This project is short thats why its so crazy HOWEVER it needed to be longer they just didn't have their shit together and then that makes my job much harder. Whatever I"ll be thrilled when its over which will be next week! I wasn't meant to do the transfer to I am at peace with it, disappointed yes but at peace for sure. My body is killing me it wouldn't have been ready and I wouldve just been disappointed. I'm going in for an US and bw tomorrow to see where my body is at, i've probably confused her a bunch but lets hope this lil break was ok. You never know till the results come in. I know it sounds crazy i'm just not in the mood to go for a 2nd opinion right now.
Just chatted with a friend who has gone through IVF and she thinks I should go for another opinion as she thinks I should have had way more healthy embryos great. I'm like where was this advice cycles ago...not that I think shes necessarily right. I find I'm doing very similar protocols to many that are on here. I know some of you did go to quite a few different ones but where I am many have used them and have had success. Some other clinics in NY when I did look into them dont take my insurance at all so a dr visit is $400, theres no way I can afford those extras on top of everything else. This is the part of the process I HATE!! And the wait list to see dr I just as crazy so I'm a lil unsettled on that too.

rachel2107 · July 2017

@Hopeful_mom where are you currently going in New York? I am in NY too and I went to one place but was disappointed after a my first two chemicals, it seemed like my dr was just giving up on me and not trying to figure out why it happened so I got a second opinion (and 3rd and 4th). I love my new clinic.

slmurphy12 · July 2017

cscher2 congrats on your first beta!! Thats good! Im happy for you

@joneser1281 yes my DH is mister tough guy. tells me to get over it and then he has a cold and is layed up in bed all day long lol. I went in yesterday and they said it was negative for all bacteria but positive for blood, so they are treating me anyway. so now I'm on two antibiotics, estrogen, medrol, and PIO! I feel like an old lady in the morning taking all my pills haha. DH gave me my first PIO today and ti wasn't too bad!. Just a little sore after. My nurse is supposed to call me today to check in on me lol so hopefully this crap goes away! she said if this doesn't work i prob have vaginitis? I was like WTF is that?!? haha so we shall see!
Good luck with your beta today!!!

@Hopeful_momI'm drinking water like its my job haha trying to flush this baby out! I feel you with the staying calm and them not worrying. DH said i was being dramatic this AM about the shot and i said okay how about we just stick a needle in your A@$ and see how you like it! lol he would be terrible if it was him that had to go through this. I remember when the urologist did the biopsy he was out of work for the week, i came home and he was laying on the couch and said he was starving bc he just couldn't make him self food that day.... I was like OH MY LANTA!!!! lol

Hope everyone else is having a good day!

slmurphy12 · July 2017

@angelbea it sounds like your transfer went well! Im glad!! Scary to think that will be me soon.. eeeekkk! Yes the dreaded UTI. I figured it was only a matter of time i got once since i have had so many ultrasounds and things going down there since i started this process! Im just hoping its not a vaginal infection lol. Yes I'm glad that i got on abx, now I'm on double bc my clinic puts you on doxycycline and medrol when you start PIO to prevent infection and inflammation! Hope your embie is getting nice and cozy

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