I side-eye people who give their babies solids/cereals before 6 months.
^^ Yes! My MIL wanted to give my one week old nephew cereal and I pretty much flipped and lectured her, on accident (probably could have handled that better.)
@jessafishy Just shaved last night for the first time in a month. @lemonlyman Used soap and DH's non-safety raser. Got a few cuts, but it worked out.
UO: I never had a birth plan for any of my pregnancies, and I am happy with my C-section birth experiences. I'm not saying that C-sections are optimal, but I don't regret them or feel like I missed out. Perhaps it took me longer to heal than it otherwise would have (but who really knows). For my non-preemie, I was able to breastfeed right away, and my husband happily held him and loved on DS in the hospital room while they were finishing up the surgery. I do breastfeed and babywear, but I feel no need to go all primal on my birth experience.
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i dunno 2 years ago haha? they said you can start introducing at 5 months per my pedi for DD2. probably before that bc i remember some in my O13 group starting then too.
i am not talking about major diagnoses or anything. but day to day OB/primary/pedi stuff. i just trust the doc. i don't really research other than to google words i have never heard of. i just do whatever they tell me. they are a lot smarter than me with a lot more experience, and i have picked care givers i trust. so you could say i blindly follow them, and i think that is ok.
I actually agree with this 100%. I didn't go to school to be a doctor. I'm not going to pretend to be "Dr. Google Expert" in their field any more than I expect them to be an expert in my field. My expectation is that if I am honest and transparent, they will do what's best for me. If I don't think they will do that, I will find a new doctor.
I certainly don't think that I am any expert however you do have to remember that a medical doctor is trained in medicine. The last few times I have gone to my doctor I have been reminded of this as the first thing he recommends is medicine, pills of some kind. no recommendations for physical activity that could help my condition no recommendations of nutritional support that could get rid of the conditional together no recommendations for natural medicine… I know I shouldn't be shocked by this but I think we forgot that they are really trained specialists in one area of curing us and very often don't look at the causes of things or more natural solutions that are healthier for our bodies than popping pills. I guess I have just brought and the spectrum of specialists that I rely on is all. For me, it's just scary that we have an older generation that relies so heavily on pills that are doing more damage to their bodies in the end then if they had changed their lifestyle years ago and doctors tend to not recommend those things in my experience anyway.
i am not talking about major diagnoses or anything. but day to day OB/primary/pedi stuff. i just trust the doc. i don't really research other than to google words i have never heard of. i just do whatever they tell me. they are a lot smarter than me with a lot more experience, and i have picked care givers i trust. so you could say i blindly follow them, and i think that is ok.
I actually agree with this 100%. I didn't go to school to be a doctor. I'm not going to pretend to be "Dr. Google Expert" in their field any more than I expect them to be an expert in my field. My expectation is that if I am honest and transparent, they will do what's best for me. If I don't think they will do that, I will find a new doctor.
I certainly don't think that I am any expert however you do have to remember that a medical doctor is trained in medicine. The last few times I have gone to my doctor I have been reminded of this as the first thing he recommends is medicine, pills of some kind. no recommendations for physical activity that could help my condition no recommendations of nutritional support that could get rid of the conditional together no recommendations for natural medicine… I know I shouldn't be shocked by this but I think we forgot that they are really trained specialists in one area of curing us and very often don't look at the causes of things or more natural solutions that are healthier for our bodies than popping pills. I guess I have just brought and the spectrum of specialists that I rely on is all. For me, it's just scary that we have an older generation that relies so heavily on pills that are doing more damage to their bodies in the end then if they had changed their lifestyle years ago and doctors tend to not recommend those things in my experience anyway.
+1/2... I know that Drs also now work very closely with pharma industry. It became for some a money game. So by prescribing this med over this med they get more money from the pharmaceutical cpny in question... Also seen a few docs on the matters and tend to look at other options first (unless grave medical issue with obs need for medication)
I'm not saying that C-sections are optimal, but I don't regret them or feel like I missed out.
i dont feel like that either in my heart. but others people's comments/judgement i let affect me too much. so i am a little primal.
csection UO - i dont really care about "gentle csections" i want the baby out the safest and quickest way possible. the docs know what they are doing. i dont need skin to skin for an hour after. i want them to make sure the baby is ok and sew me up so i can spend the rest of the day cuddling. also the baby knows me, i am glad their first real experiences outside the womb are with H whilst i am done up. i think that is really special.
It won't let me quote. @carries2018 I think it must be a "different doctors recommend different things" issue. DS was July 2014 and at that point most of the recommendations I read were no solids until 6 months.
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Let's not delve too deeply into "doctors push pills". Slippery slope that leads to "Doctors get money for pushing vaccines! They aren't safe doctors are just greedy!"
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I certainly don't think that I am any expert however you do have to remember that a medical doctor is trained in medicine. The last few times I have gone to my doctor I have been reminded of this as the first thing he recommends is medicine, pills of some kind. no recommendations for physical activity that could help my condition no recommendations of nutritional support that could get rid of the conditional together no recommendations for natural medicine… I know I shouldn't be shocked by this but I think we forgot that they are really trained specialists in one area of curing us and very often don't look at the causes of things or more natural solutions that are healthier for our bodies than popping pills. I guess I have just brought and the spectrum of specialists that I rely on is all. For me, it's just scary that we have an older generation that relies so heavily on pills that are doing more damage to their bodies in the end then if they had changed their lifestyle years ago and doctors tend to not recommend those things in my experience anyway.
@Knottie1448927774 I agree that my parents are crazy for relying on medicine and doctors for all physical needs, especially when diet/exercise/counseling would be the more appropriate answer. That being said, you presumably are more educated on this issue than that older generation. So, why would you even go to your doctor if you believe what is wrong should be resolved in some way other than medicine? Save the doctor as the last resort or if you are simply looking to determine if there is some medical cause for your condition, just ask for diagnostic testing. (Unless of course, you have serious underlying medical conditions where all major life decisions should probably be approved by your doctor.)
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haha i mean we are talking like 30 days i dont think it is that major. i didnt start at 5 on the dot, like 5.5. so really 14 days. but deft not before 5 months
Let's not delve too deeply into "doctors push pills". Slippery slope that leads to "Doctors get money for pushing vaccines! They aren't safe doctors are just greedy!"
I wouldn't go that far. My point was just that doctors are trained in medicine and it is their job and specialty to scribe medication to fix the problem. There's nothing wrong with that, that's what they're trying to do. I have a couple of friends who are great doctors but I don't really rely on them for advice because I'm trying to avoid medications at all costs, not giving my baby antibiotics etc. so I just prefer to go to the specialist who have more natural alternatives and we have changed our lifestyle drastically as a family in the hopes of avoiding a lot of illnesses and diseases with my husband and I are old and avoiding sickness in general for our son. I don't think doctors are horrible people by any means and there are times where medicine is necessary for sure. I just think that there are other ways of looking at things when it comes to health of the body.:)
Let's not delve too deeply into "doctors push pills". Slippery slope that leads to "Doctors get money for pushing vaccines! They aren't safe doctors are just greedy!"
I wouldn't go that far. My point was just that doctors are trained in medicine and it is their job and specialty to scribe medication to fix the problem. There's nothing wrong with that, that's what they're trying to do. I have a couple of friends who are great doctors but I don't really rely on them for advice because I'm trying to avoid medications at all costs, not giving my baby antibiotics etc. so I just prefer to go to the specialist who have more natural alternatives and we have changed our lifestyle drastically as a family in the hopes of avoiding a lot of illnesses and diseases with my husband and I are old and avoiding sickness in general for our son. I don't think doctors are horrible people by any means and there are times where medicine is necessary for sure. I just think that there are other ways of looking at things when it comes to health of the body.:)
@Knottie1447173547 Oh I didn't think you were but some of the replies you were getting were heading that direction.
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My pet peev is people constantly recommending to give baby a bottle with processed empty card rice cereals to get him to sleep. To me, this is not teaching him how to sleep. It's not teaching them how to love bedtime and his crib. And it's not teaching him how to fall asleep on his own it's simply filling them up with empty carbs. It's like getting him Thanksgiving dinner so that he has a good long rest which doesn't really produce Healthy learned sleep habits in the long run.grrr.
Let's not delve too deeply into "doctors push pills". Slippery slope that leads to "Doctors get money for pushing vaccines! They aren't safe doctors are just greedy!"
I wouldn't go that far. My point was just that doctors are trained in medicine and it is their job and specialty to scribe medication to fix the problem. There's nothing wrong with that, that's what they're trying to do. I have a couple of friends who are great doctors but I don't really rely on them for advice because I'm trying to avoid medications at all costs, not giving my baby antibiotics etc. so I just prefer to go to the specialist who have more natural alternatives and we have changed our lifestyle drastically as a family in the hopes of avoiding a lot of illnesses and diseases with my husband and I are old and avoiding sickness in general for our son. I don't think doctors are horrible people by any means and there are times where medicine is necessary for sure. I just think that there are other ways of looking at things when it comes to health of the body.:)
I see your point, but I guess it goes back to my point of, if I don't feel comfortable with a doctor/practice, I don't go there. I wouldn't go to a practice that was quick to prescribe medications before other options. I'm thankful we've found a great pediatric practice that isn't one of those I hear about that prescribe antibiotics for everything. And the same goes with me - I always make sure to ask about other options before I agree to medication. The only medication I have agreed to (aside from BC) was an allergy medicine. And even then, they gave me the option of avoiding cats 100% first. However, every single person in my family and DH's family have cats soooooo avoiding everyone wasn't an option
So I guess to sum up, I don't feel comfortable with practices that immediately prescribe medication before looking into other options - so I don't go to them anyway
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My pet peev is people constantly recommending to give baby a bottle with processed empty card rice cereals to get him to sleep. To me, this is not teaching him how to sleep. It's not teaching them how to love bedtime and his crib. And it's not teaching him how to fall asleep on his own it's simply filling them up with empty carbs. It's like getting him Thanksgiving dinner so that he has a good long rest which doesn't really produce Healthy learned sleep habits in the long run.grrr.
who recommends this? is it 1981? and i take all older generation baby advice with a grain of salt. if it were up to my mom i'd transport my kids on the roof of the car.
I side-eye people who give their babies solids/cereals before 6 months.
Ahh, I'm so on the fence about this now. I totally side eyed this with and before DD. I had friends putting oatmeal into bottles waaaaay before they "should" just to get them to STTN. Now I have a food allergy kid and from my research some allergists and pediatricians think our society is waiting too long to introduce foods and it could be the cause of some allergies. I'm starting to get on board with that thought, but I'm also at the point to try anything to avoid another allergy kid this go around (evidenced by me stuffing a handful of peanuts into my mouth on the daily since being knocked up). I'm probably crazy, but having an allergy kid sucks balls big time and you don't realize how much it sucks til you have one. Obviously I will discuss with our allergist and pediatrician, but I'm willing to start slowly introducing around 4 months.
My pet peev is people constantly recommending to give baby a bottle with processed empty card rice cereals to get him to sleep. To me, this is not teaching him how to sleep. It's not teaching them how to love bedtime and his crib. And it's not teaching him how to fall asleep on his own it's simply filling them up with empty carbs. It's like getting him Thanksgiving dinner so that he has a good long rest which doesn't really produce Healthy learned sleep habits in the long run.grrr.
who recommends this? is it 1981? and i take all older generation baby advice with a grain of salt. if it were up to my mom i'd transport my kids on the roof of the car.
Haha! Yes mainly the older generation, moms who say "well you kids all survived just fine)
After my experience with my terrible OB during my MC, I definitely fall in the camp of do your own research and self-advocate. I have a quasi-medical background so that probably helps. But I just can't take what the medical establishment tells me and leave it at that. For example, in the past month I have been told to vaccinate my child and to not eat sushi while pregnant. From my own research, I know we will of course vaccinate but I'm definitely continuing to eat sushi from clean, reputable restaurants. I think doctors can tend to overgeneralize recommendations, so I like to do my own homework when possible.
I didn't get the whole announcing that you're lurking thing until I started noticing a O17 mom posting frequently on many other boards as if she were a part of theirs... so now I don't know who is catfishing who!
UO follow all the established rules please because now I have more trust issues. And I can't keep changing my username and icon lmao.
My pet peev is people constantly recommending to give baby a bottle with processed empty card rice cereals to get him to sleep. To me, this is not teaching him how to sleep. It's not teaching them how to love bedtime and his crib. And it's not teaching him how to fall asleep on his own it's simply filling them up with empty carbs. It's like getting him Thanksgiving dinner so that he has a good long rest which doesn't really produce Healthy learned sleep habits in the long run.grrr.
who recommends this? is it 1981? and i take all older generation baby advice with a grain of salt. if it were up to my mom i'd transport my kids on the roof of the car.
Dealing with our parent's advice is the worst. It always ends in hurt feelings or fights because they raised us said way and we turned out just fine. You can apply this to any out dated child-rearing practice. Cereal, solids, BM vs formula, car seats. I could go on and on with the discussions I've had with my mom and grandmother on what we are doing and why and that's not what they did back in the day. I know it's from a loving place but seriously.
My pet peev is people constantly recommending to give baby a bottle with processed empty card rice cereals to get him to sleep. To me, this is not teaching him how to sleep. It's not teaching them how to love bedtime and his crib. And it's not teaching him how to fall asleep on his own it's simply filling them up with empty carbs. It's like getting him Thanksgiving dinner so that he has a good long rest which doesn't really produce Healthy learned sleep habits in the long run.grrr.
who recommends this? is it 1981? and i take all older generation baby advice with a grain of salt. if it were up to my mom i'd transport my kids on the roof of the car.
All of DH's female coworkers were telling him to do this to get DS to STTN.
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I didn't get the whole announcing that you're lurking thing until I started noticing a O17 mom posting frequently on many other boards as if she were a part of theirs... so now I don't know who is catfishing who!
UO follow all the established rules please because now I have more trust issues. And I can't keep changing my username and icon lmao.
Yeeeeep!
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@mrs_fogue i just smile and nod it isnt worth it "oh yea i will have to look into that..." the fights only come up when i have to put them in the car seats in their car bc i have to reinstall the seat they attempted to put in.
Every doctor/pedi I've seen in my city has been really cautious about prescribing meds/abx and always discusses healthy lifestyle changes as a first step, so I think it definitely depends on the doctor. Any blanket statement about "all doctors push pills" gets a little side eye from me.
I've said this before, but I'm also on the really trusting end of the spectrum when it comes to people in my life, so I tend to approach situations assuming that people have good intentions. That includes doctors and babysitters.
And now I need to know who the O17 lurker is, so... *off to stalk*
@pizzamonster3 whooo? I'm so freaking nosey. There's a particular person on O17 that I swear has to be BSing, but I'm pretty suspicious so... time will tell I guess.
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csection UO - i dont really care about "gentle csections" i want the baby out the safest and quickest way possible. the docs know what they are doing. i dont need skin to skin for an hour after. i want them to make sure the baby is ok and sew me up so i can spend the rest of the day cuddling. also the baby knows me, i am glad their first real experiences outside the womb are with H whilst i am done up. i think that is really special.
@carries2018 I think the "gentle csection" is another response to the patient demand that everything be centered around providing the perfect "hospital experience." It is also yet another reason why medical expenses continue to increase in the US. While I prefer life to be rainbows and butterflies when possible, I don't expect everyone to dedicate their professional existence to giving be rainbows and butterflies.
Need rainbows and butterflies? Hire a doula to give them to you. (Although I cringe at people who hire doulas merely to demand that the nurses and doctors do things in a specific way.)
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lurkers/trolls dont bother me. i mean we are on the interwebz everything is out in the open we arent having a secret convo. but we are moms with no life, we need to feed our llama somehow. lurkers/trolls tend to offer that. bring em on!
Sooo.... @carries2018 -- Doesn't like non-Italian pasta dishes (Buffalo pasta..nom nom nom) @natleilynn -- Doesn't like Mexican food @mnajib92 -- Doesn't like raw onions @mrs_fogue -- Doesn't like OREOS
Seriously @jessafishy, I could have written all of your UOs today! Medium steak is the only way! I've been searching for a swimsuit with boyshorts or something, AND I'm very much team "no solids before six months". I got into many arguments with my family when DD was a baby, because they thought it was dumb that I wouldn't let them let her have tastes of things before then!
My UO -- It doesn't bother me when my husband plays video games. He doesn't go overboard with it, or let it take away from family time. I can't grasp women getting mad anytime their SO plays video games at all.
who recommends this? is it 1981? and i take all older generation baby advice with a grain of salt. if it were up to my mom i'd transport my kids on the roof of the car.
Dealing with our parent's advice is the worst. It always ends in hurt feelings or fights because they raised us said way and we turned out just fine. You can apply this to any out dated child-rearing practice. Cereal, solids, BM vs formula, car seats. I could go on and on with the discussions I've had with my mom and grandmother on what we are doing and why and that's not what they did back in the day. I know it's from a loving place but seriously.
When DS was 8 months old or so and was sick or crying or something, my grandmother walked through the room and offhandedly said, "You should give him some phenobarbital." WTF?! It's now a running joke between my husband and my mom and me. "Oh yeah, he's pretty upset, let's dose him up with phenobarbital."
Sooo.... @carries2018 -- Doesn't like non-Italian pasta dishes (Buffalo pasta..nom nom nom) @natleilynn -- Doesn't like Mexican food @mnajib92 -- Doesn't like raw onions @mrs_fogue -- Doesn't like OREOS
Seriously @jessafishy, I could have written all of your UOs today! Medium steak is the only way! I've been searching for a swimsuit with boyshorts or something, AND I'm very much team "no solids before six months". I got into many arguments with my family when DD was a baby, because they thought it was dumb that I wouldn't let them let her have tastes of things before then!
My UO -- It doesn't bother me when my husband plays video games. He doesn't go overboard with it, or let it take away from family time. I can't grasp women getting mad anytime their SO plays video games at all.
I finally thought of my own UO woohoo!
Trying to compromise here. I enjoy margaritas and chips and salsa (minus cilantro, but that was another UO from another week). And quesadillas as long as they're simple. But you're not going to catch me eating an enchilada anytime soon unless I've had about 300 margaritas - and at that point, we're all in trouble anyway.
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lurkers/trolls dont bother me. i mean we are on the interwebz everything is out in the open we arent having a secret convo. but we are moms with no life, we need to feed our llama somehow. lurkers/trolls tend to offer that. bring em on!
That's not true, I get in a little work and a little socializing in between my bumping. Plus we gotta weed out the crazies somehow before moving over to FB.
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^^ Yes! My MIL wanted to give my one week old nephew cereal and I pretty much flipped and lectured her, on accident (probably could have handled that better.)
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UO: I never had a birth plan for any of my pregnancies, and I am happy with my C-section birth experiences. I'm not saying that C-sections are optimal, but I don't regret them or feel like I missed out. Perhaps it took me longer to heal than it otherwise would have (but who really knows). For my non-preemie, I was able to breastfeed right away, and my husband happily held him and loved on DS in the hospital room while they were finishing up the surgery. I do breastfeed and babywear, but I feel no need to go all primal on my birth experience.
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csection UO - i dont really care about "gentle csections" i want the baby out the safest and quickest way possible. the docs know what they are doing. i dont need skin to skin for an hour after. i want them to make sure the baby is ok and sew me up so i can spend the rest of the day cuddling. also the baby knows me, i am glad their first real experiences outside the womb are with H whilst i am done up. i think that is really special.
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I heart YNAB
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“Happiness can be found even in the darkest of times,
if one only remembers to turn on the light."
- Albus Dumbledore
Preemie ID DDs; then DS; then natural M/C; now due 10/17
High risk for pre-term: weekly Makena injections
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He also powers thru bigmacs at 18mo...
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So I guess to sum up, I don't feel comfortable with practices that immediately prescribe medication before looking into other options - so I don't go to them anyway
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UO follow all the established rules please because now I have more trust issues. And I can't keep changing my username and icon lmao.
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I've said this before, but I'm also on the really trusting end of the spectrum when it comes to people in my life, so I tend to approach situations assuming that people have good intentions. That includes doctors and babysitters.
And now I need to know who the O17 lurker is, so... *off to stalk*
Need rainbows and butterflies? Hire a doula to give them to you. (Although I cringe at people who hire doulas merely to demand that the nurses and doctors do things in a specific way.)
Preemie ID DDs; then DS; then natural M/C; now due 10/17
High risk for pre-term: weekly Makena injections
May Siggy Challenge: Parenting Fails
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@carries2018 -- Doesn't like non-Italian pasta dishes (Buffalo pasta..nom nom nom)
@natleilynn -- Doesn't like Mexican food
@mnajib92 -- Doesn't like raw onions
@mrs_fogue -- Doesn't like OREOS
Seriously @jessafishy, I could have written all of your UOs today! Medium steak is the only way! I've been searching for a swimsuit with boyshorts or something, AND I'm very much team "no solids before six months". I got into many arguments with my family when DD was a baby, because they thought it was dumb that I wouldn't let them let her have tastes of things before then!
My UO -- It doesn't bother me when my husband plays video games. He doesn't go overboard with it, or let it take away from family time. I can't grasp women getting mad anytime their SO plays video games at all.
I finally thought of my own UO woohoo!
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Think we can make it a full O17 sweep one day?
BFP#3: 2/9/13 EDD 10/18/17. Team Green for Round 2!
That's not true, I get in a little work and a little socializing in between my bumping. Plus we gotta weed out the crazies somehow before moving over to FB.