My UO I hate unnecessary mama bashing drama. I left my N13 FB group because it was different groups bashing each other for the way they fed, raised, did whatever for this kids.
Now this whole weed thing. That is a joke right? Doesn't seem like something a Dr would allow.
I bet her dr doesn't know she's smoking weed daily. Because no doctor would be okay with that.
I had had morning sickness that bad (vomiting 4-5 times a day, couldn't eat). So I went to my doctor and asked for medicine for it like a normal person!
My UO is that I can't stand when people intentionally have just one child if they can physically and financially have more than one. 0 or 2+ people! Only-Child Syndrome ruins people! Lol
My UO is that I can't stand when people intentionally have just one child if they can physically and financially have more than one. 0 or 2+ people! Only-Child Syndrome ruins people! Lol
I can't remember, but based on your screen name, I'd say this is your first? Having children is harder than you might think and birth can traumatize the parents sometimes. I have friends who had every intention of having multiple children but after experiencing their first, they decided otherwise. Yet, they are physically and financially capable adults. Your opinion on this may change.
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My UO is that I can't stand when people intentionally have just one child if they can physically and financially have more than one. 0 or 2+ people! Only-Child Syndrome ruins people! Lol
So you would rather people overburden themselves with extra children that they don't necessarily want, instead of just being happy with and loving the one they already have?
@bumpybump My opinion could certainly change, since yes this is our first. But even so, I think it would take something pretty dramatic to convince me and the hubby to raise an only-child. Like maybe if one of us became severely disabled, for example. I think we could always adopt the 2nd child if the first pregnancy/birth is too traumatic.
@bumpybump My opinion could certainly change, since yes this is our first. But even so, I think it would take something pretty dramatic to convince me and the hubby to raise an only-child. Like maybe if one of us became severely disabled, for example. I think we could always adopt the 2nd child if the first pregnancy/birth is too traumatic.
Sorry, I knew it would be unpopular! Lol
Unpopular or insulting to any single child? I know several people who decided that they were done after one, hell it took me three years to recover from (forget?) the struggles of newborn days. This is one of those opinions that you should probably keep to yourself lest someone punches you in the face for being so annoying ignorant.
And the weed smoking, are you for real? Non pregnant me is all about that life, but being pregnant (especially during the first trimester when brain development is so crucial) I wouldn't even dream of smoking. God forbid you cause lifelong developmental damage to your baby and have to live the rest of your life knowing that you couldn't muster the strength to deal with vomiting for a few weeks.
Totally agree with @taylormarie923 that it was super insulting to any single child. My DH is an only child and he isn't anywhere close to being "ruined." I really hope you don't say that to people IRL.
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My UO is that I can't stand when people intentionally have just one child if they can physically and financially have more than one. 0 or 2+ people! Only-Child Syndrome ruins people! Lol
Judging people because they only want one child? I just can't wrap my head around that one... there's plenty of people... and I'm sure some on this group, who would be over the moon for only one.
@bumpybump@taylormarie923 I couldn't agree w you ladies more. the best part is that she's a FTM. @letsmakebabynumbr1 Talk to me when you actually know what it's like to have a newborn. The toll it takes physically, mentally, emotionally, and spiritually. Not only that, but how extremely taxing it is on your marriage/relationship. Glad to know it's so easy to judge others without ever having been there yourself...
Having more than one child does not guarantee your child will not be an only child. My brother died when we were young, so I spent many years as an "only child." So if having an only child is your concern, you need to have three or four. That being said, children without siblings are not "ruined."
I bet her dr doesn't know she's smoking weed daily. Because no doctor would be okay with that.
I had had morning sickness that bad (vomiting 4-5 times a day, couldn't eat). So I went to my doctor and asked for medicine for it like a normal person!
This. I doubt her dr. knows she smokes weed daily.
I'm an only. I actually have lots of good stuff I could say about it, and I never had a desire for a sibling really while I was growing up. I'm super close to my parents and I'm thankful for that relationship. But. Now that I have three kids and see the joy of sibling relationships, I feel a little sorry for myself for missing out on that. I know that not all siblings are close, especially once they get older, but there's something about always HAVING someone, you know? I didn't realize what I didn't have, and now that I see it, I feel a little sad for only children. However. For whatever reason, one is the magic number for some people. And that's a-ok, even advantageous in some ways!
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My UO is that I can't stand when people intentionally have just one child if they can physically and financially have more than one. 0 or 2+ people! Only-Child Syndrome ruins people! Lol
My midwife is aware just like they were the last time. I never said I smoked it. I consume it as needed because all of the research I did with my last pregnancy showed that there are fewer risks than the rx meds that are given without a thought. Flame me all you want, but I would encourage you to do some research yourself. Especially if you are ok with taking zofran or phenergan.
Have you done research on the long term side-effects of THC on a developing baby?? I'm all for medical uses for marajuana for people who aren't growing a person inside them. It doesn't matter what form your taking your doing mind/mood altering drugs while your growing a person. People who NEED to take prescription meds for mood disorders stop while pregnant. People who are bipolar stop taking the drugs they need to feel mostly ok because of the risks to their growing baby but nah its cool your not doing any damage. It's just a plant right. No different than a cup of coffee..
I have. And continue to do so. And doctors prescribe medications for mood disorders during pregnancy all the time. I was put on Zoloft my last pregnancy in 3rd trip for ppd. My midwife agrees that it is just as safe as any other rx, she just can't legally tell me to do it because I live where it isn't legal. And yes, weed and coffee are very similar. Coffee is more dangerous and addictive, actually. I'm not going to continue to argue, I am a grown adult making informed decisions for myself and my child. I do it for the health of me and my baby. Without it my body is under constant stress and under nourished. Hopefully this time I won't need it past 1st tri. But I will do what is necessary to be healthy.
@mamadoaks what research are you doing that says "coffee and weed are very similar and coffee is more dangerous"
The first tri is very difficult with all the nauseous and other pregnancy symptoms. Many women on this BMB are finding ways to cope without doing illegal drugs, (yes, I know its legal in some states but you said it's not legal where you live) Have you tried anything other than smoking weed? How is smoking weed healthy for your baby???
Did I say all mood disorders go untreated? No I didn't. Many moms to be decide to stop taking their medication during pregnancy. Obviously not all of them. Just like all people who drink too much don't stop while pregnant. Just like people who do meth don't always stop while pregnant. Selfish people who do selfish things don't often think about what's best for their growing babies.
No I'm not saying weed and meth are on the same level just like f-ing coffee and weed aren't on the same level.....
Forgot which poster is having the bad experience with the unicom/b6 drug. I got it too and it is a lifesaver to me. It sucks that drugs affect people in different ways. My doctor likewise told me that's a category A drug and very safe. DH and I only want one child. My mom is an only, DH is an only. By no means are they "ruined." I worry about our financial ability to have two, and I never got along with my sister growing up.
I guess we missed the part where I said my midwife is on board and even gave me info last time supporting it. Anywho. This selfish, drug doing mom will just keep on keeping on and you just keep believing what big pharmaceutical companies and the government that gets paid by them wants you to believe. Weed is the devil and I'm the same as someone doing meth while pregnant. HA.
Did I not just say I'm not saying they are the same??? Are you high right now??? You're insinuating caffeine is worse than weed. That's ridiculous. But you sound so woke. SEVERAL of the moms who replied including myself said we agree that smoking weed isn't that big of a deal WHEN YOU'RE NOT PREGNANT.
You insinuated it when you said selfish moms take things while pregnant all the time. You also linked moms that smoke meth with moms who take meds for mood disorders. Mood disorders can be life threatening if not treated. But it's selfish to treat your disease when pregnant. I am not high. Nor do I even get "high." I consume small amounts of thc to calm my vomiting. Not to get high. Not for pleasure. So my baby can survive actually. I use a tincture or edibles that have strains specifically meant for medicinal use and not to get high, similar to stuff used in children with epilepsy.
How about the part on the post that your referencing where I quote, said "No I'm not saying weed and meth are on the same level just like f-ing coffee and weed aren't on the same level....."
One of my best mom friends stopped taking her bipolar medicine because she was worried how it could potentially effect her baby. I was saying that if moms who do have those serious disorders decide to not take their medicine because of how it *could* effect their baby it seems like using THC would be something you probably shouldn't be on while growing a baby.
Babies manage to survive in the womb during some truly horrific times in human history-wars, famine, disease...I think most embryos will make it through a stressed out modern mom with bad nausea.
Yes, "big pharma and the government", but big pharma drugs work. We've already had discussion on the board about how helpful anti depressants and other meds can be to those who have gone or are going through PDD/PPA, or the meds that people are taking that have allowed them a better quality of life.
I'm completely down with recreational use for a responsible adult. Consistent daily use while pregnant is not responsible at this point in time. The medical research is just not there to support it. The more I read about human DNA and how easily it can be influended makes the claims that using on a regular basis won't have any impact the growing embryo very suspect.
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Where are you buying your drugs? You said your state isn't legal so that means you're not going to a dispensary. Are you growing your own? How do you know what's in your weed or if it was grown safely?
I have. And continue to do so. And doctors prescribe medications for mood disorders during pregnancy all the time. I was put on Zoloft my last pregnancy in 3rd trip for ppd. My midwife agrees that it is just as safe as any other rx, she just can't legally tell me to do it because I live where it isn't legal. And yes, weed and coffee are very similar. Coffee is more dangerous and addictive, actually. I'm not going to continue to argue, I am a grown adult making informed decisions for myself and my child. I do it for the health of me and my baby. Without it my body is under constant stress and under nourished. Hopefully this time I won't need it past 1st tri. But I will do what is necessary to be healthy.
@strawberrytree hi! So good to find a fellow HG sufferer! I had it was last pregnancy and it was the absolute worst period of my entire life, including my many major surgeries that I have had! It's the absolute worst,I couldn't talk our turn my head, if I even opened my mouth or swallowed too much saliva,I would throw up (and btw, for an HG sufferer, throwing up does NOT relieve the nausea) And yes, diclegis and zofran did absolutely nothing to help! And even then, I would have never considered using marijuana with a baby inside of me!
I guess we missed the part where I said my midwife is on board and even gave me info last time supporting it.
Joining the party late, but @mamadoaks I would love to see the info you were given. Based on my reading of the medical literature, there is not enough data to say marijuana use is remotely safe during pregnancy. The studies were underpowered to detect negative outcomes, but that does not mean it is safe. Also, I couldn't find studies on long term neuro development... that would be a big concern of mine.
It is is not fair to compare it to children with epilepsy, because in that setting, the children are under the supervision of a physician and many, if not all, are still clinical trials. Parents are not buying weed off the street and giving them to their children - at least, I don't believe they should.
Lurking from May 17. I had to join in as I have a HUGE opinion all of this. I too suffer from HG. This is actually my 2nd time having it. Both times I have been hospitalized on a few occasions for IV meds and fluids. There is also a member of my FB group who is suffering for the 3rd time. Her case is SOOOO severe that she can not longer do IV's or PICC lines and has an actual feeding tube for the rest of her pregnancy. I can tell you no matter how sick I have been, (I've actually broken blood vessels in my eyes from vomiting and have also vomited blood on many occasions), I would NEVER and I repeat NEVER even think of consuming THC products. I'm sorry but nausea or HG are not an excuse to use it. Don't care what research anyone is looking at, no thank you. I also have Bi-polar, anxiety, and OCD and am currently in treatment. I know the risk of those drugs as well as my HG regimen. Can tell you that to me those risks are far less than marijuana. But hey it ain't my kid you're screwing with so you do you I guess.
Also my husband and FIL are only children. While yes there are times that I feel my husband can be a little bit spoiled and wish that he understood the sibling dynamic that I share with my sister, I can tell you that he or his father are in no way "ruined". To me that is a pretty loaded word to use when describing an only child. Hey you may not agree and think that some only children don't understand or sometimes feel entitled. That's fine. But to use the word ruined. WHOA that's a bit much. It's very easy for a FTM looking in from the outside to have an opinion on something they know nothing about. I'm guilty of that all the time myself. I always said that I only wanted to have 2 kids. My DH and I also agreed upon it. I told my BF she was crazy for wanting a 3rd. However, now that I am pregnant with my 2nd I sometimes wonder when I have 2 will I want a 3rd? It's easy for us to make decisions for the future when we don't really know what its going to be like. You say you think people having only one child are bad and you don't want to be like that. How do you know if you've never had a child. Its just like me saying I only want 2 children. How do I know that I'll be happy with only 2 children when right now I only have 1. While yes these posts are about Unpopular Opinions, one does have to be careful about crossing the line and I think both women leaped over it in my opinion.
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Now this whole weed thing. That is a joke right? Doesn't seem like something a Dr would allow.
I had had morning sickness that bad (vomiting 4-5 times a day, couldn't eat). So I went to my doctor and asked for medicine for it like a normal person!
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Sorry, I knew it would be unpopular! Lol
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the best part is that she's a FTM. @letsmakebabynumbr1 Talk to me when you actually know what it's like to have a newborn. The toll it takes physically, mentally, emotionally, and spiritually. Not only that, but how extremely taxing it is on your marriage/relationship.
Glad to know it's so easy to judge others without ever having been there yourself...
ETA: signed, a "ruined" only child
That being said, children without siblings are not "ruined."
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For reference, marijuana is category C, which is the same as phenergan. Zofran is category B.
People who NEED to take prescription meds for mood disorders stop while pregnant. People who are bipolar stop taking the drugs they need to feel mostly ok because of the risks to their growing baby but nah its cool your not doing any damage. It's just a plant right. No different than a cup of coffee..
The first tri is very difficult with all the nauseous and other pregnancy symptoms. Many women on this BMB are finding ways to cope without doing illegal drugs, (yes, I know its legal in some states but you said it's not legal where you live) Have you tried anything other than smoking weed? How is smoking weed healthy for your baby???
It's not safe for the baby. Period. Comparing it to coffee is ridiculous.
Just like all people who drink too much don't stop while pregnant. Just like people who do meth don't always stop while pregnant. Selfish people who do selfish things don't often think about what's best for their growing babies.
No I'm not saying weed and meth are on the same level just like f-ing coffee and weed aren't on the same level.....
DH and I only want one child. My mom is an only, DH is an only. By no means are they "ruined." I worry about our financial ability to have two, and I never got along with my sister growing up.
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You're insinuating caffeine is worse than weed. That's ridiculous.
But you sound so woke.
SEVERAL of the moms who replied including myself said we agree that smoking weed isn't that big of a deal WHEN YOU'RE NOT PREGNANT.
Edit: took out a "doesn't"
One of my best mom friends stopped taking her bipolar medicine because she was worried how it could potentially effect her baby. I was saying that if moms who do have those serious disorders decide to not take their medicine because of how it *could* effect their baby it seems like using THC would be something you probably shouldn't be on while growing a baby.
Yes, "big pharma and the government", but big pharma drugs work. We've already had discussion on the board about how helpful anti depressants and other meds can be to those who have gone or are going through PDD/PPA, or the meds that people are taking that have allowed them a better quality of life.
I'm completely down with recreational use for a responsible adult. Consistent daily use while pregnant is not responsible at this point in time. The medical research is just not there to support it. The more I read about human DNA and how easily it can be influended makes the claims that using on a regular basis won't have any impact the growing embryo very suspect.
Together: January 2002
Married: May 2008
Baby: August 2017
Clearly we like to rush along at lightning speed...
Edit: fixed a "you're"
Is this chick for real?
And yes, diclegis and zofran did absolutely nothing to help!
And even then, I would have never considered using marijuana with a baby inside of me!
It is is not fair to compare it to children with epilepsy, because in that setting, the children are under the supervision of a physician and many, if not all, are still clinical trials. Parents are not buying weed off the street and giving them to their children - at least, I don't believe they should.
Lurking from May 17. I had to join in as I have a HUGE opinion all of this. I too suffer from HG. This is actually my 2nd time having it. Both times I have been hospitalized on a few occasions for IV meds and fluids. There is also a member of my FB group who is suffering for the 3rd time. Her case is SOOOO severe that she can not longer do IV's or PICC lines and has an actual feeding tube for the rest of her pregnancy. I can tell you no matter how sick I have been, (I've actually broken blood vessels in my eyes from vomiting and have also vomited blood on many occasions), I would NEVER and I repeat NEVER even think of consuming THC products. I'm sorry but nausea or HG are not an excuse to use it. Don't care what research anyone is looking at, no thank you. I also have Bi-polar, anxiety, and OCD and am currently in treatment. I know the risk of those drugs as well as my HG regimen. Can tell you that to me those risks are far less than marijuana. But hey it ain't my kid you're screwing with so you do you I guess.
Also my husband and FIL are only children. While yes there are times that I feel my husband can be a little bit spoiled and wish that he understood the sibling dynamic that I share with my sister, I can tell you that he or his father are in no way "ruined". To me that is a pretty loaded word to use when describing an only child. Hey you may not agree and think that some only children don't understand or sometimes feel entitled. That's fine. But to use the word ruined. WHOA that's a bit much. It's very easy for a FTM looking in from the outside to have an opinion on something they know nothing about. I'm guilty of that all the time myself. I always said that I only wanted to have 2 kids. My DH and I also agreed upon it. I told my BF she was crazy for wanting a 3rd. However, now that I am pregnant with my 2nd I sometimes wonder when I have 2 will I want a 3rd? It's easy for us to make decisions for the future when we don't really know what its going to be like. You say you think people having only one child are bad and you don't want to be like that. How do you know if you've never had a child. Its just like me saying I only want 2 children. How do I know that I'll be happy with only 2 children when right now I only have 1. While yes these posts are about Unpopular Opinions, one does have to be careful about crossing the line and I think both women leaped over it in my opinion.