It's been 1hr (and counting) trying to get Damien down for bed. Just won't stop crying. I checked evrything off the list (hungry, cold, hot, wet diaper, etc.) and every technique to soothe him, nothing works except holding him. Such a fun night!
It's been 1hr (and counting) trying to get Damien down for bed. Just won't stop crying. I checked evrything off the list (hungry, cold, hot, wet diaper, etc.) and every technique to soothe him, nothing works except holding him. Such a fun night!
Anybody putting a hat on baby to sleep? It has been cooling off in Wisconsin and the house has been dropping down to around 67 at night. His little hands get cold and now I am concerned about head. When he was really little we always kept a hat on him... But at some point I stopped... now I am just not sure.
Every time the weather changes I feel like I need a tutorial on how to dress the baby for sleeping! The past few nights have started out ok and have gotten chillier overnight. I put a hat on her in the wee hours of the morning last night. I couldn't tell if it made her too hot.
Anybody putting a hat on baby to sleep? It has been cooling off in Wisconsin and the house has been dropping down to around 67 at night. His little hands get cold and now I am concerned about head. When he was really little we always kept a hat on him... But at some point I stopped... now I am just not sure.
Every time the weather changes I feel like I need a tutorial on how to dress the baby for sleeping! The past few nights have started out ok and have gotten chillier overnight. I put a hat on her in the wee hours of the morning last night. I couldn't tell if it made her too hot.
If it helps I took 36 week old babies home from the hospital in late October. They were about 4 lbs when I took them home. All I was told to do was dress them in warm sleepers with their hands covered and keep the house at 72. WitH this guy I'm so laid back now. I assume you would be ok with a fleece sleeper for a normal size baby.
ETA: I am in northern Colorado so it can get pretty chilly at night this time of year.
I think the 4month sleep regression has hit my house. I just fed him a 2 am feeding for the first time since he was 6 -7 weeks...he's almost 15 weeks now. He started rolling from back to front last Friday and since then h hasn't slept past 5 am, then tonight he was up at 1:30. Drained 6oz and went back down but ugh...DH is out of town for work til Friday so this is going to make the work week drag. How long do they typically do this?
I think the 4month sleep regression has hit my house. I just fed him a 2 am feeding for the first time since he was 6 -7 weeks...he's almost 15 weeks now. He started rolling from back to front last Friday and since then h hasn't slept past 5 am, then tonight he was up at 1:30. Drained 6oz and went back down but ugh...DH is out of town for work til Friday so this is going to make the work week drag. How long do they typically do this?
Damien is in a similar boat. He did a cluster of 11hr nights and is now back to doing 1 nightly feeding (at around 3/3:30am). He did the same thing several weeks ago tho so I don't know if it's regression for him or not. He isn't rolling at night yet, just sleeps a lot on his sides. I think rolling is coming soon.
I heard the regression period can last from 2-4 weeks, sometimes up to 6 weeks for some babies.
The regression does end! Cause guess what..... Preston slept through the night! WHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTT!?!?!?!?!?! Yup, you heard right, that little goofball that woke at least 4-5 times per night did not wake up at all. I woke up at 4 and snuck in to give him a dream feed cause I figured he'd wake soon anyway and I was awake so why the heck not, right? It's now after 7am and he is still sleeping. I did hear him stir and make noise a couple times but he went right back to sleep. Now interest myself to a real breakfast and some coffee!!!
The regression does end! Cause guess what..... Preston slept through the night! WHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTT!?!?!?!?!?! Yup, you heard right, that little goofball that woke at least 4-5 times per night did not wake up at all. I woke up at 4 and snuck in to give him a dream feed cause I figured he'd wake soon anyway and I was awake so why the heck not, right? It's now after 7am and he is still sleeping. I did hear him stir and make noise a couple times but he went right back to sleep. Now interest myself to a real breakfast and some coffee!!!
The regression does end! Cause guess what..... Preston slept through the night! WHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTT!?!?!?!?!?! Yup, you heard right, that little goofball that woke at least 4-5 times per night did not wake up at all. I woke up at 4 and snuck in to give him a dream feed cause I figured he'd wake soon anyway and I was awake so why the heck not, right? It's now after 7am and he is still sleeping. I did hear him stir and make noise a couple times but he went right back to sleep. Now interest myself to a real breakfast and some coffee!!!
Woohoo! Yay, Preston!! That was a well-deserved breakfast for you.
Welp, another difficult night trying to put Damien down. What really sucked was once he was finally down, my husband arrived home (he was at a convention since Sunday) and our dog barked in excitement. Guess who woke up? Luckily he went back down pretty easily.
@adiaz132003 I think I figured out why Damien is doing short naps. I remembered you mentioned awhile back about babies sometimes having trouble transitioning to the next cycle so they wind up waking. I've been watching the monitor at around the 30min (or 45min if he goes past 30min) to see if he starts to stir. Once he does, I got in and pop a pacifier in for a few minutes. He transitions and I take the pacifier out, easy cheesy. Today he napped for 2.5hrs, 2hrs and 15min, and a short 45min catnap to finished the day.
ETA: I definitely think he has started sleep regression. He initially started waking once a night but tonight it was twice. We'll see if it continues...
Yeah all this sleep stuff sucks. We had that wonderful night two nights ago but last night was rough. I did a dream feed at 11 to ensure he could last till morning and he woke once at like 3 which lasted like 20 min and once at 6 for about 10-15. I am happy that he isn't waking as much as he used to and I hope he gets the hang of this soon. I want more full night's. Also deciding when to feed him is hard. I know he can go 8-9 hours so common sense says dream feed at 10-11 so I get 8 hours but o go to bed at like 9:30 and want to wake up by like 6 so really I don't get 8 hours either way.
Yeah all this sleep stuff sucks. We had that wonderful night two nights ago but last night was rough. I did a dream feed at 11 to ensure he could last till morning and he woke once at like 3 which lasted like 20 min and once at 6 for about 10-15. I am happy that he isn't waking as much as he used to and I hope he gets the hang of this soon. I want more full night's. Also deciding when to feed him is hard. I know he can go 8-9 hours so common sense says dream feed at 10-11 so I get 8 hours but o go to bed at like 9:30 and want to wake up by like 6 so really I don't get 8 hours either way.
I told my husband that if waking a couple of times at night (super easy, he fed and went right back to sleep) and being difficult when it's time to go to bed is all he does, I'll be grateful. Yea it sucks, but I can manages those pretty well.
I've never been able to dream feed. He just looks at me like, "WTF, I was sleeping," and won't eat because he isn't hungry. I don't worry too much anymore though since I know he can sleep 11hrs without needing to feed...just not during this regression apparently.
I read in a sleep training guide that if you know your baby can go X-amount of hours wihout feeding, if he wakes up, don't feed him. If Damien was just chilling for a bit and then passing back out, which is what he does sometimes during those long stretches, yea I wouldn't feed him. When he wakes up crying, he makes it pretty obvious that he wants to eat. I can't see myself saying, "Nope. I know you can go longer. No food for you."
Anyone else's kids rolling when they are put down and thus, not sleeping? As if Calvin's sleep couldn't get worse, now he just wants to roll all the time.
Anyone else's kids rolling when they are put down and thus, not sleeping? As if Calvin's sleep couldn't get worse, now he just wants to roll all the time.
Been there. It only lasted a few days till he rolled completely and now he sleeps on his tummy.
Sam likes to move around in his crib and I've noticed in the past week he is turning himself sideways. He is an incredibly long baby (27.75in at the last check) so he just barely fits sideways. I hate when I go check on him and his little head is against the slats of the crib. I know we aren't supposed to use bumpers, but does anyone have any other suggestions?
Sam likes to move around in his crib and I've noticed in the past week he is turning himself sideways. He is an incredibly long baby (27.75in at the last check) so he just barely fits sideways. I hate when I go check on him and his little head is against the slats of the crib. I know we aren't supposed to use bumpers, but does anyone have any other suggestions?
Damien is a mover too. One time I came in and his feet were partially sticking through the bars. He was in a sleepsack so it just looked odd. He hasn't done it since though. When he was still sleeping in the playard, the top head often butted up against the side because he moved to one side, I figured if it bothered him, he would move. I'm not sure what could be done to be honest, just know that you aren't alone.
Sam likes to move around in his crib and I've noticed in the past week he is turning himself sideways. He is an incredibly long baby (27.75in at the last check) so he just barely fits sideways. I hate when I go check on him and his little head is against the slats of the crib. I know we aren't supposed to use bumpers, but does anyone have any other suggestions?
We put a breathable bumper on his crib since he moves a lot too.
Up for the second time tonight with Savannah and it's only 12:55.
What am I doing wrong?!?! The idea of CIO breaks my heart but I'm exhausted! I need to really read through this thread carefully and try some different methods.
Up for the second time tonight with Savannah and it's only 12:55.
What am I doing wrong?!?! The idea of CIO breaks my heart but I'm exhausted! I need to really read through this thread carefully and try some different methods.
Stuck in the box: Maybe it's not a matter of doing something wrong or right, maybe Savannah might not be ready to do a full night just yet? I honestly didn't do anything different than what I've done for weeks when Damien decided to start his 11hr stretch. It was completely random and unexpected.
I'm with you that I can't handle the CIO method. @adiaz132003 is doing a much gentler fading method, which is pretty much what I do as well.
I know it's rough and exhausting but you're doing a great job!
Up for the second time tonight with Savannah and it's only 12:55.
What am I doing wrong?!?! The idea of CIO breaks my heart but I'm exhausted! I need to really read through this thread carefully and try some different methods.
First of all, look at how long this has been going on. A sleep regression can last for a couple weeks. Sometimes the sleep returns to normal so I was told to wait until sleep returned to semi normal before starting sleep training. For example, Preston was waking every flipping hour all night then suddenly he started waking maybe 3 times again. That's when I knew he was past the regression and back to semi normal. Give it more time. Then if you want you can try what we did but keep in mind our babies could be different and she might not respond as quickly to it as Preston did.
When we brought her home from the hospital she would do one long stretch, 6-8 hours and since she was gaining weight the pediatrician was fine with it. Then she hit the 6 week growth spurt and never slept more than 6 hours again! On great nights we get one 5 1/2 or 6 hour stretch, but more frequently it's only 3 or 4.
It's not the end of the world right now but when I go back to work in 6 weeks it's going to be a disaster! (We'll have to leave the house at 6:30) So working on her going to bed earlier and sleeping longer are top priority right now.
When we brought her home from the hospital she would do one long stretch, 6-8 hours and since she was gaining weight the pediatrician was fine with it. Then she hit the 6 week growth spurt and never slept more than 6 hours again! On great nights we get one 5 1/2 or 6 hour stretch, but more frequently it's only 3 or 4.
It's not the end of the world right now but when I go back to work in 6 weeks it's going to be a disaster! (We'll have to leave the house at 6:30) So working on her going to bed earlier and sleeping longer are top priority right now.
6 weeks is plenty of time. One thing you can start is seeing if you can get her to at least go to bed on her own before you start trying to work on the night wakings. Keep a log of when she wakes and when she eats at night. Also make note of how the feeding is. Is she taking her sweet time or is she ravenous? If she's acting ravenous then she may need those feedings but if not then see if at the first waking you can get her to fall asleep without feeding her. We did this before starting sleep training to show him he doesn't get fed every time he wakes up. If he went to bed at 8 I would wait until after 2 to feed him since he was able to go 5-6 hours in the past. I made DH handle the waking cause he doesn't smell like milk lol. After a few days of this he stopped waking every hour and was waking ever 3-4 (nighttime sleep cycles). Then we started the fading. For us, since he slept on his tummy, we started with patting his back, sushing and a mantra (it's okay, go to sleep) and we'd repeat until he fell asleep. Then two nights later we stopped the mantra cause we noticed when we spoke he'd get worked up. The next night we removed the patting and just rested our hand on him and sushes, then removed the touch all together and sat in a chair and sushes. Then we started standing farther away and would only sush if he started to cry (which at this point hardly happened). Now, only a week later I just lay him in the crib, say "time for bed, Preston, I love you" give a kiss and walk out. Sometimes we hear him moving around but he never cries and will just put his head down and falls asleep. The past 2 nights he has STTN!!! So while this isn't CIO there was still some tears the first 2 days but I was right by his side and had my hand on him. The longest he ever cried was 30 min and it was more whining than full blown crying. The sleep consultant told me that if he gets intense to pick him up and comfort him but just not to let him fall asleep in my arms since that is what he wants. There was only one time I had to pick him up and it was during a nap. However, the sleep consultant told me to let him nap how he wants because trying to do sleep training during the day is "like banging your head against a wall" lol but we didn't wanna give him the pacifier so we took the risk. So we kinda rushed the process but the way she told us to start was to only focus on getting him to fall asleep on his own at bedtime (sometimes that enough to fix the issues) then once he masters bedtime to do the first waking, then the second and so on. She said naps will develop in their own time cause night sleep develops first so until that issue is solved there is no point in worrying about things like short naps right now.
I realize I wrote a lot (and rambled lol) and every baby is different but maybe something like this will help you moms who don't want to CIO.
I found this article in Psychology Today on sleep development and such for babies to be an interesting read. It's various parts (5 parts total) touch on many things we've discussed here.
Tired of this little one not sleeping so I am trying the Merlin's magic sleep suit for the first time tonight. She looks ridiculous!!!! But she went down at 9 and is still asleep! (She normally cluster feeds& fights bed so hard she doesn't go down until 10 or 11 )
laurenm2123 let me know how the sleep suit goes! I was considering getting one, but I'm afraid he wouldn't like it much. He likes to be super tight in his swaddle still
The regression seems to have ended for now. *cross fingers*. Isaiah used to fight naps and kick and scream when put down. This past weekend, he took 3 naps, all about an hour each. Last night, he went down around 6:30pm and woke at 12:30am for feed and right back to bed. Then up at 6:30am. Normally, he's down at 8:30 and up at 3:30am, then back to bed until 6:30 when we get up for work.
laurenm2123 let me know how the sleep suit goes! I was considering getting one, but I'm afraid he wouldn't like it much. He likes to be super tight in his swaddle still
8.5 hours straight last night!!! She had an awful night in Saturday though so she was exhausted, I'll keep you posted on tonight since it will be a better indicator
I'm curious to hear how the sleep suit works out! I almost bought one a couple of different times, but so far I've held out. Simon's sleep has been pretty terrible lately, so I'm tempted to give it a try.
laurenm2123 let me know how the sleep suit goes! I was considering getting one, but I'm afraid he wouldn't like it much. He likes to be super tight in his swaddle still
8.5 hours straight last night!!! She had an awful night in Saturday though so she was exhausted, I'll keep you posted on tonight since it will be a better indicator
We have one but haven't ever used it. It just seems like it would make Ethan waaaaaaay to warm. Lol. Even though it's sorta raining here, it's still muggy and not cold.
We started the sleep suit on Friday. LO had been sleeping about 10 hours a night swaddled for the last month or so. Friday night was great. She stuck to her same schedule. However Saturday night and last night have been tough. She's gotten up twice each night. Also now that she's unswaddled she's a bit too big for the pnp (she scratches the sides with her outstretched arms). I don't know what to do--I know she needs to be able to sleep unswaddled but I was LOVING an uninterrupted nights sleep.
@bankssl1@laurenm2123 we started using the magic sleepsuit suit about 2 weeks ago, and it's seriously been the best thing ever. Bennett loved to be swaddled super tight too and would flail his arms non stop if he wasnt, but when we did the crib transition from RNP, he started rolling to his side two nights in and I got nervous keeping him swaddled, so we put him in the sleepsuit. Since we did crib and swaddle transition together, we did have a rough time couple of nights where he would wake up every 2 hours or so, but it gradually went from waking up 4-5 times a night for those first nights to less and less. The past two nights he slept 8.5 and 9.5 hours straight. It think it was a big adjustment for him because it went from sleeping with his arms tight against his side to spread out, but I think the sleepsuit kind of weighs everything down and keeps him feeling snuggled. I've also noticed he wouldn't fall asleep in the swaddle if I put him down awake and I had to bounce and shoosh him to get him to sleep, but he's been going to sleep on his own in the sleepsuit, so I'm kinda thinking this suit really is magic lol
This is bennett rocking the pink sleepsuit. We borrowed it from out sister who has daughters haha
Is anyone's baby still waking up multiple times per night? I think we're through the sleep regression (4 months on Wednesday) but Jackie still wakes 3 or 4 times to eat at night, about every 3 hours. She had been sleeping up to 7 hour stretches before the regression.
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Yeah Savannah sleeps much better swaddled but it makes me nervous now that she can rollover. She is still in a bassinet next to my bed- I need to transition her to the crib soon, but I just love having her so close!
Anyone else start sleep training yet? My little one was actually sleeping through the night for a while since about 2 months but she hit the 4-month sleep regression and started waking up in the middle of the night. Unfortunately I didn't realize that I wasn't helping the situation by nursing her to sleep and we let her sleep with a binky so she hasn't been on the put herself back to sleep. Last night was the first night sleep training and it was tough at first but she finally got herself to sleep after about 30 minutes. She woke up at 12:45 crying though and it took another 45 minutes to fall back asleep. I'm starting to follow the process for nap today too and she actually fell asleep within 20 minutes for her nap this morning. I'm hopeful this is working I'll get us on a good routine before I go back to work. I'm following the steps outlined in the Sleep sense book.
Is anyone's baby still waking up multiple times per night? I think we're through the sleep regression (4 months on Wednesday) but Jackie still wakes 3 or 4 times to eat at night, about every 3 hours. She had been sleeping up to 7 hour stretches before the regression.
We're a twice a night/early morning waking family over here. Miles will usually go down between 9:15 - 9:45 (I know he probably needs to go down earlier, but now that I work all day I just want as much time with him as possible at night) and will mostly wake up once sometime between 1:30 - 2:30 and then again between 5 and 7. There was a really awesome day last week where he didn't wake up until 4 and then work up happy at 7, but we've never come close to sleeping through the night. Before I went back to work it was inching there with 6-7 hour stretches, but now it's 3-5 at best. So you're not alone, I'm right there tired with you
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Is anyone's baby still waking up multiple times per night? I think we're through the sleep regression (4 months on Wednesday) but Jackie still wakes 3 or 4 times to eat at night, about every 3 hours. She had been sleeping up to 7 hour stretches before the regression.
We're a twice a night/early morning waking family over here. Miles will usually go down between 9:15 - 9:45 (I know he probably needs to go down earlier, but now that I work all day I just want as much time with him as possible at night) and will mostly wake up once sometime between 1:30 - 2:30 and then again between 5 and 7. There was a really awesome day last week where he didn't wake up until 4 and then work up happy at 7, but we've never come close to sleeping through the night. Before I went back to work it was inching there with 6-7 hour stretches, but now it's 3-5 at best. So you're not alone, I'm right there tired with you
My baby boy (4months on the 10th) still wakes twice to eat during the night. We have made it through the regression. I think his is because he is still such a small baby, only 12 lbs. My girls were also small babies and woke up twice a night to eat until almost a year.
Is anyone's baby still waking up multiple times per night? I think we're through the sleep regression (4 months on Wednesday) but Jackie still wakes 3 or 4 times to eat at night, about every 3 hours. She had been sleeping up to 7 hour stretches before the regression.
Ugh idk what happened but Preston started waking up again. Once 1am hits he is up like every hour. He only fusses for a minute or two but it wakes me up. The sleep consultant said he will fuss less between cycles as time goes on but she also thinks that he is more advanced than most 4 month olds and is expecting us to come in and feed him if he wakes. She said I should try a dream feed but he wakes up as soon as I pick him up so that doesn't work... Ugh idk what to do
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ETA: I am in northern Colorado so it can get pretty chilly at night this time of year.
I heard the regression period can last from 2-4 weeks, sometimes up to 6 weeks for some babies.
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@adiaz132003 I think I figured out why Damien is doing short naps. I remembered you mentioned awhile back about babies sometimes having trouble transitioning to the next cycle so they wind up waking. I've been watching the monitor at around the 30min (or 45min if he goes past 30min) to see if he starts to stir. Once he does, I got in and pop a pacifier in for a few minutes. He transitions and I take the pacifier out, easy cheesy. Today he napped for 2.5hrs, 2hrs and 15min, and a short 45min catnap to finished the day.
ETA: I definitely think he has started sleep regression. He initially started waking once a night but tonight it was twice. We'll see if it continues...
I've never been able to dream feed. He just looks at me like, "WTF, I was sleeping," and won't eat because he isn't hungry. I don't worry too much anymore though since I know he can sleep 11hrs without needing to feed...just not during this regression apparently.
I read in a sleep training guide that if you know your baby can go X-amount of hours wihout feeding, if he wakes up, don't feed him. If Damien was just chilling for a bit and then passing back out, which is what he does sometimes during those long stretches, yea I wouldn't feed him. When he wakes up crying, he makes it pretty obvious that he wants to eat. I can't see myself saying, "Nope. I know you can go longer. No food for you."
Been there. It only lasted a few days till he rolled completely and now he sleeps on his tummy.
What am I doing wrong?!?! The idea of CIO breaks my heart but I'm exhausted! I need to really read through this thread carefully and try some different methods.
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It's not the end of the world right now but when I go back to work in 6 weeks it's going to be a disaster! (We'll have to leave the house at 6:30) So working on her going to bed earlier and sleeping longer are top priority right now.
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6 weeks is plenty of time. One thing you can start is seeing if you can get her to at least go to bed on her own before you start trying to work on the night wakings. Keep a log of when she wakes and when she eats at night. Also make note of how the feeding is. Is she taking her sweet time or is she ravenous? If she's acting ravenous then she may need those feedings but if not then see if at the first waking you can get her to fall asleep without feeding her. We did this before starting sleep training to show him he doesn't get fed every time he wakes up. If he went to bed at 8 I would wait until after 2 to feed him since he was able to go 5-6 hours in the past. I made DH handle the waking cause he doesn't smell like milk lol. After a few days of this he stopped waking every hour and was waking ever 3-4 (nighttime sleep cycles). Then we started the fading. For us, since he slept on his tummy, we started with patting his back, sushing and a mantra (it's okay, go to sleep) and we'd repeat until he fell asleep. Then two nights later we stopped the mantra cause we noticed when we spoke he'd get worked up. The next night we removed the patting and just rested our hand on him and sushes, then removed the touch all together and sat in a chair and sushes. Then we started standing farther away and would only sush if he started to cry (which at this point hardly happened). Now, only a week later I just lay him in the crib, say "time for bed, Preston, I love you" give a kiss and walk out. Sometimes we hear him moving around but he never cries and will just put his head down and falls asleep. The past 2 nights he has STTN!!! So while this isn't CIO there was still some tears the first 2 days but I was right by his side and had my hand on him. The longest he ever cried was 30 min and it was more whining than full blown crying. The sleep consultant told me that if he gets intense to pick him up and comfort him but just not to let him fall asleep in my arms since that is what he wants. There was only one time I had to pick him up and it was during a nap. However, the sleep consultant told me to let him nap how he wants because trying to do sleep training during the day is "like banging your head against a wall" lol but we didn't wanna give him the pacifier so we took the risk. So we kinda rushed the process but the way she told us to start was to only focus on getting him to fall asleep on his own at bedtime (sometimes that enough to fix the issues) then once he masters bedtime to do the first waking, then the second and so on. She said naps will develop in their own time cause night sleep develops first so until that issue is solved there is no point in worrying about things like short naps right now.
I realize I wrote a lot (and rambled lol) and every baby is different but maybe something like this will help you moms who don't want to CIO.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/moral-landscapes/201302/normal-human-infant-sleep-feeding-method-and-development
Anyone else has experience with it?
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This is bennett rocking the pink sleepsuit.
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