June 2016 Moms

Baby Sleep Questions

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Re: Baby Sleep Questions

  • Ugh idk what happened but Preston started waking up again.  Once 1am hits he is up like every hour.  He only fusses for a minute or two but it wakes me up.  The sleep consultant said he will fuss less between cycles as time goes on but she also thinks that he is more advanced than most 4 month olds and is expecting us to come in and feed him if he wakes.  She said I should try a dream feed but he wakes up as soon as I pick him up so that doesn't work... Ugh idk what to do
    If only fussing for a minute or two, does that mean he will go back to sleep? If so, probably no reason to dream feed. Our LO sleeps about 11 hours a night and will periodically wake at 3 or 4 just babbling to herself. We usually will let her try to put herself back to sleep. If she goes on for 10 min then we'lol go in and giver the pacifier. She will then stay asleep until morning. I think I remember that you've weaned off the pacifier but it does come in handy for us and I've found she's not fully dependent on it as she can fall asleep without it but it can help her fall asleep a little quicker.
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  • It's hard cause he wants to sleep 12 hours but seems hungry at 11 hours.  We decided we are just gonna let him wake earlier.  I'd rather him take an extra nap than get confused at night as to whether he gets feedings or not.  Sleep consultant said he may surprise us and actually be able to go that full 12 hours soon.
  • It's hard cause he wants to sleep 12 hours but seems hungry at 11 hours.  We decided we are just gonna let him wake earlier.  I'd rather him take an extra nap than get confused at night as to whether he gets feedings or not.  Sleep consultant said he may surprise us and actually be able to go that full 12 hours soon.
    I cannot fathom 12 hours! Savannah went down at 10:20, woke up at 4:45 to eat and then slept until 7:30 and she was raring to go! And that was a good night!

    She is fighting going to bed, going back to sleep in the morning, and fighting napping so hard.

    I go back to work in 5 weeks and will have to be up at 5am, I am so nervous about how I am going to function!


    How much was the sleep consultant?! :/
    Me (31) & DH (32)
    Married 9/27/2014
    DD Born 6/23/16
    Baby #2 Due 3/7/20
  • I sometimes feel like we put too much pressure on ourselves and our babies to sleep for super long stretches. 
    YYYYEEEEEESSSS!!!!! Yes to everything about this. Babies are weird, they don't know what's going on, they can't tell us what's going on, and honestly the entirety of human history is against them sleeping alone, all night long. Heck, as adults, we don't sleep all night long, we just don't remember waking up most of the time because it's so normal for us. It's not normal for babies, so they fuss and cry and need comfort in whatever way they choose. Some of them are ok with being patted and talked to, some of them prefer being held and rocked, and some need to nurse to calm down. It's biology!!

    *and now falling off of my giant soap box onto my face*
    Me: 32 DH: 31 *The old lady by 5 whole weeks*
    Married: 11/2013
    M: 6/2016  E: 5/2018
  • I sometimes feel like we put too much pressure on ourselves and our babies to sleep for super long stretches. 
    YYYYEEEEEESSSS!!!!! Yes to everything about this. Babies are weird, they don't know what's going on, they can't tell us what's going on, and honestly the entirety of human history is against them sleeping alone, all night long. Heck, as adults, we don't sleep all night long, we just don't remember waking up most of the time because it's so normal for us. It's not normal for babies, so they fuss and cry and need comfort in whatever way they choose. Some of them are ok with being patted and talked to, some of them prefer being held and rocked, and some need to nurse to calm down. It's biology!!

    *and now falling off of my giant soap box onto my face*
    Thank you. The longest stretch we ever get from our son is four hours. Reading about everyone's kids sttn makes me feel like a big fat failure. The fact that I am up between 4 and 7 times each night actually factored into my decision to quit my job. I couldn't do it on the no sleep.  :'(
  • I sometimes feel like we put too much pressure on ourselves and our babies to sleep for super long stretches. 
    YYYYEEEEEESSSS!!!!! Yes to everything about this. Babies are weird, they don't know what's going on, they can't tell us what's going on, and honestly the entirety of human history is against them sleeping alone, all night long. Heck, as adults, we don't sleep all night long, we just don't remember waking up most of the time because it's so normal for us. It's not normal for babies, so they fuss and cry and need comfort in whatever way they choose. Some of them are ok with being patted and talked to, some of them prefer being held and rocked, and some need to nurse to calm down. It's biology!!

    *and now falling off of my giant soap box onto my face*
    Thank you. The longest stretch we ever get from our son is four hours. Reading about everyone's kids sttn makes me feel like a big fat failure. The fact that I am up between 4 and 7 times each night actually factored into my decision to quit my job. I couldn't do it on the no sleep.  :'(
    Same! I've had 2 good nights in the Merlin sleep suit but up until now have felt like I'm doing something wrong. Hearing about babies taking 3 hour naps orSTTN makes me feel like we don't have enough of a routine and I'm harming her in some way because we don't.  Savannah is just not a big sleeper or napper but is perfectly happy, growing and meeting all milestones so I guess she just needs less sleep than some other babies.

    I too try to remember when she has a bad night that she is scared, cold, tired, hungry or in need of comfort and I'm the only one to give it to her. It can be really tough when you're tired though.

    I am legitimately worried about going back to work in 5 weeks and how I'll be able to function as a nurse on little sleep. I also worry about her at daycare since she VERY rarely naps anywhere but on me or in the stroller/car seat.
    Me (31) & DH (32)
    Married 9/27/2014
    DD Born 6/23/16
    Baby #2 Due 3/7/20
  • artlea2013artlea2013 member
    edited October 2016
    I sometimes feel like we put too much pressure on ourselves and our babies to sleep for super long stretches. 
    YYYYEEEEEESSSS!!!!! Yes to everything about this. Babies are weird, they don't know what's going on, they can't tell us what's going on, and honestly the entirety of human history is against them sleeping alone, all night long. Heck, as adults, we don't sleep all night long, we just don't remember waking up most of the time because it's so normal for us. It's not normal for babies, so they fuss and cry and need comfort in whatever way they choose. Some of them are ok with being patted and talked to, some of them prefer being held and rocked, and some need to nurse to calm down. It's biology!!

    *and now falling off of my giant soap box onto my face*
    Thank you. The longest stretch we ever get from our son is four hours. Reading about everyone's kids sttn makes me feel like a big fat failure. The fact that I am up between 4 and 7 times each night actually factored into my decision to quit my job. I couldn't do it on the no sleep.  :'(
    DS's nurse is also an LC, so she has her standard pediatrician nurse knowledge, her LC knowledge, AND she has been an L&D nurse and postpartum nurse before moving to pediatrics. Basically, the lady knows her way around babies, besides having 3 kids of her own. She let me in on a secret at our last appointment that her youngest is 10 months old and still gets up on the not so rare occasion in the middle of the night. Seriously, this lady has more knowledge and experience then I can EVER hope for and can't get her son to sleep. So take it easy Mom, you're doing fine
    Me: 32 DH: 31 *The old lady by 5 whole weeks*
    Married: 11/2013
    M: 6/2016  E: 5/2018
  • My sister jokes that she hasn't had a night where both kids slept through the night since my nephew was born, they are now 4 + 7  :p
    Me (31) & DH (32)
    Married 9/27/2014
    DD Born 6/23/16
    Baby #2 Due 3/7/20
  • I sometimes feel like we put too much pressure on ourselves and our babies to sleep for super long stretches. 
    YYYYEEEEEESSSS!!!!! Yes to everything about this. Babies are weird, they don't know what's going on, they can't tell us what's going on, and honestly the entirety of human history is against them sleeping alone, all night long. Heck, as adults, we don't sleep all night long, we just don't remember waking up most of the time because it's so normal for us. It's not normal for babies, so they fuss and cry and need comfort in whatever way they choose. Some of them are ok with being patted and talked to, some of them prefer being held and rocked, and some need to nurse to calm down. It's biology!!

    *and now falling off of my giant soap box onto my face*
    Yessss, thank you!!!! I was telling a friend the other day that sleep has been the one thing making me feel like a constant failure as a parent. I needed to hear this today. 
  • Are you all as confused by the conflicting articles and advice on the topic as I am? My dr told me the baby learns what I teach her, so if I get up and feed her every time she wakes up at night then she'll do it more and more often. Other articles say it's completely normal for babies to wake up and eat throughout the night, and we're imposing our schedule on them if we try to get them to sttn.
  • Lizbeth86 said:
    Are you all as confused by the conflicting articles and advice on the topic as I am? My dr told me the baby learns what I teach her, so if I get up and feed her every time she wakes up at night then she'll do it more and more often. Other articles say it's completely normal for babies to wake up and eat throughout the night, and we're imposing our schedule on them if we try to get them to sttn.
    I honestly think you just have to go with your instincts and do what you think is best for your baby and you. Information and advice seems to vary so greatly, depending on who you talk to. 
  • The consultant cost $450.  She came to my home so it's the most pricey option.  It was working great abdbwe still know he doesn't need to eat so often but he still wakes up and cries or fussing for a minute or two ever couple hours.  She earned me some babies do cry between sleep cycles and suggested I do t use a baby monitor in the night so that his little cries don't wake me and only the "hey mom!" ones do.
  • The consultant cost $450.  She came to my home so it's the most pricey option.  It was working great abdbwe still know he doesn't need to eat so often but he still wakes up and cries or fussing for a minute or two ever couple hours.  She earned me some babies do cry between sleep cycles and suggested I do t use a baby monitor in the night so that his little cries don't wake me and only the "hey mom!" ones do.
    Savannah is still in our room so everythingggg she does wakes me up- I bet that's the first thing a sleep consultant would change!
    Me (31) & DH (32)
    Married 9/27/2014
    DD Born 6/23/16
    Baby #2 Due 3/7/20
  • The consultant cost $450.  She came to my home so it's the most pricey option.  It was working great abdbwe still know he doesn't need to eat so often but he still wakes up and cries or fussing for a minute or two ever couple hours.  She earned me some babies do cry between sleep cycles and suggested I do t use a baby monitor in the night so that his little cries don't wake me and only the "hey mom!" ones do.
    Savannah is still in our room so everythingggg she does wakes me up- I bet that's the first thing a sleep consultant would change!
     Not necessarily.  She asked us if we wanted to room share or cosleep.  It's just different approaches and expectations.  We found out the Preston is fully able to SSTN without food last night cause while he woke up super often, he never needed our help to go back down.  The longest he fussed was 5 min and only the first two minutes of that was real tears.  She reminded me that he is still very young and may just cry between cycles because his ability to self soothe hasn't fully developed yet.  He has the ability but not the full understanding or know-how
  • The consultant cost $450.  She came to my home so it's the most pricey option.  It was working great abdbwe still know he doesn't need to eat so often but he still wakes up and cries or fussing for a minute or two ever couple hours.  She earned me some babies do cry between sleep cycles and suggested I do t use a baby monitor in the night so that his little cries don't wake me and only the "hey mom!" ones do.
    Savannah is still in our room so everythingggg she does wakes me up- I bet that's the first thing a sleep consultant would change!
     Not necessarily.  She asked us if we wanted to room share or cosleep.  It's just different approaches and expectations.  We found out the Preston is fully able to SSTN without food last night cause while he woke up super often, he never needed our help to go back down.  The longest he fussed was 5 min and only the first two minutes of that was real tears.  She reminded me that he is still very young and may just cry between cycles because his ability to self soothe hasn't fully developed yet.  He has the ability but not the full understanding or know-how
    Did she say anything about growth spurts and how to handle those? I can't really tell when Damien goes through one until it's over and hardly fits into his clothes suddenly but some babies need to feed a lot, including at night.
  • The consultant cost $450.  She came to my home so it's the most pricey option.  It was working great abdbwe still know he doesn't need to eat so often but he still wakes up and cries or fussing for a minute or two ever couple hours.  She earned me some babies do cry between sleep cycles and suggested I do t use a baby monitor in the night so that his little cries don't wake me and only the "hey mom!" ones do.
    Savannah is still in our room so everythingggg she does wakes me up- I bet that's the first thing a sleep consultant would change!
     Not necessarily.  She asked us if we wanted to room share or cosleep.  It's just different approaches and expectations.  We found out the Preston is fully able to SSTN without food last night cause while he woke up super often, he never needed our help to go back down.  The longest he fussed was 5 min and only the first two minutes of that was real tears.  She reminded me that he is still very young and may just cry between cycles because his ability to self soothe hasn't fully developed yet.  He has the ability but not the full understanding or know-how
    Did she say anything about growth spurts and how to handle those? I can't really tell when Damien goes through one until it's over and hardly fits into his clothes suddenly but some babies need to feed a lot, including at night.
     She said I would know the difference between a hunger cry and whiny cry.  She also said babies can go back to sleep if they are hungry but it will take longer and they will just wake again like 10-15 minutes later
  • The consultant cost $450.  She came to my home so it's the most pricey option.  It was working great abdbwe still know he doesn't need to eat so often but he still wakes up and cries or fussing for a minute or two ever couple hours.  She earned me some babies do cry between sleep cycles and suggested I do t use a baby monitor in the night so that his little cries don't wake me and only the "hey mom!" ones do.
    Savannah is still in our room so everythingggg she does wakes me up- I bet that's the first thing a sleep consultant would change!
     Not necessarily.  She asked us if we wanted to room share or cosleep.  It's just different approaches and expectations.  We found out the Preston is fully able to SSTN without food last night cause while he woke up super often, he never needed our help to go back down.  The longest he fussed was 5 min and only the first two minutes of that was real tears.  She reminded me that he is still very young and may just cry between cycles because his ability to self soothe hasn't fully developed yet.  He has the ability but not the full understanding or know-how
    Did she say anything about growth spurts and how to handle those? I can't really tell when Damien goes through one until it's over and hardly fits into his clothes suddenly but some babies need to feed a lot, including at night.
     She said I would know the difference between a hunger cry and whiny cry.  She also said babies can go back to sleep if they are hungry but it will take longer and they will just wake again like 10-15 minutes later
    Fair enough!!
  • Good to know, sometimes I think I pick her up and feed her too quickly. I wonder if she can put herself back to sleep at all during the night.
    Me (31) & DH (32)
    Married 9/27/2014
    DD Born 6/23/16
    Baby #2 Due 3/7/20
  • Good to know, sometimes I think I pick her up and feed her too quickly. I wonder if she can put herself back to sleep at all during the night.
    I remember her asking if when he ate if he was eating really fast or if he was just just kinda like "mmm a nice snack" and it was a short feed.  So we coached him through that first wake up and he slept another 2 hours so we were like "oh... You weren't hungry"
  • Just wondering how long can everyone's LOs going between naps at this point?  Preston can only manage 1.5-2 at most between naps.  He gets about 14-15 hours of sleep a day.
  • Just wondering how long can everyone's LOs going between naps at this point?  Preston can only manage 1.5-2 at most between naps.  He gets about 14-15 hours of sleep a day.
    Damien did 3 hrs between naps while at my MiL. 
  • 1.5 hrs is about the norm for us. 4 months old.
    DD1: June '16 DD2: March ‘19 :::: Married since 2011 :::: USN Wife ::::
  • lm45678lm45678 member
    edited October 2016
    13-14 :D

    She naps on walks, in the car, and occasionally after eating so it really depends on what our day looks like. On days we don't walk, she may only take two 20-30 minute naps all day.

    ETA- Today she woke up at 8:45, napped in the stroller from 1-2:30 and has currently napping for about 20 minutes, as an idea of what a day looks like.
    Me (31) & DH (32)
    Married 9/27/2014
    DD Born 6/23/16
    Baby #2 Due 3/7/20
  • Sam can go 2 hours max, but it's usually more like 1.5. 
  • amangels2 said:
    Sam can go 2 hours max, but it's usually more like 1.5. 
    Damien is usually the same. I think the one 3hr period each day while at my MiL was simply due to the new faces and environment.
  • I got Savannah down at 9:30 tonight after only one feeding! (May not seem like much but this is a big accomplishment for us as she normally cluster feeds all night and fights bed like crazy until about 11.)

    She is in the halo swaddle with arms free and her first stretch was 4 hours. Starting to wonder if the magic sleep suit really is working! She peed in it last night and I didn't get to the laundry yet.  Guess I'll be washing this suit today!
    Me (31) & DH (32)
    Married 9/27/2014
    DD Born 6/23/16
    Baby #2 Due 3/7/20
  • I got Savannah down at 9:30 tonight after only one feeding! (May not seem like much but this is a big accomplishment for us as she normally cluster feeds all night and fights bed like crazy until about 11.)

    She is in the halo swaddle with arms free and her first stretch was 4 hours. Starting to wonder if the magic sleep suit really is working! She peed in it last night and I didn't get to the laundry yet.  Guess I'll be washing this suit today!
     Well done momma!!!  Did you do something different that may have contributed?

    We put Preston down at about 7:45 last night and I woke up this morning at about 5:45 for my day.  At one point DH heard a noise from Preston's room so we look at the monitor and see that he has flipped on his back and was wide away and looking around.  We wait it out cause our sleep consultant said to always give him a chance to go back to sleep if he wakes up super early and sure enough he put his thumb in his mouth and fell asleep on his back.  I hope he can sleep till at least 7 cause he does best when he gets his full 12ish hours at night.  Yay Preston!!!
  • I got Savannah down at 9:30 tonight after only one feeding! (May not seem like much but this is a big accomplishment for us as she normally cluster feeds all night and fights bed like crazy until about 11.)

    She is in the halo swaddle with arms free and her first stretch was 4 hours. Starting to wonder if the magic sleep suit really is working! She peed in it last night and I didn't get to the laundry yet.  Guess I'll be washing this suit today!
     Well done momma!!!  Did you do something different that may have contributed?

    We put Preston down at about 7:45 last night and I woke up this morning at about 5:45 for my day.  At one point DH heard a noise from Preston's room so we look at the monitor and see that he has flipped on his back and was wide away and looking around.  We wait it out cause our sleep consultant said to always give him a chance to go back to sleep if he wakes up super early and sure enough he put his thumb in his mouth and fell asleep on his back.  I hope he can sleep till at least 7 cause he does best when he gets his full 12ish hours at night.  Yay Preston!!!
    She took the paci instead of cluster feeding which was different and I started turning the lights down in the house realllyyy early. It's not much but it's a start!!
    Me (31) & DH (32)
    Married 9/27/2014
    DD Born 6/23/16
    Baby #2 Due 3/7/20
  • Officially starting sleep training today. Jackie is generally a good sleeper. She gets put down drowsy but awake and usually can get herself to sleep. She still wakes to eat, but especially after 5/6am has the tendency to wake multiple times before we're up for the day. When she's not waking to eat, which she still does a couple times per night but are starting to be more spread out, I'm giving her 5 minutes to figure it out herself before going in to give a paci and calm her down before putting her back drowsy. So far 5 minutes seems to be long enough for her to soothe and fall asleep, but I will ramp it up if needed. Wish me luck!
    DD1: June '16 DD2: March ‘19 :::: Married since 2011 :::: USN Wife ::::
  • meggyme said:
    Officially starting sleep training today. Jackie is generally a good sleeper. She gets put down drowsy but awake and usually can get herself to sleep. She still wakes to eat, but especially after 5/6am has the tendency to wake multiple times before we're up for the day. When she's not waking to eat, which she still does a couple times per night but are starting to be more spread out, I'm giving her 5 minutes to figure it out herself before going in to give a paci and calm her down before putting her back drowsy. So far 5 minutes seems to be long enough for her to soothe and fall asleep, but I will ramp it up if needed. Wish me luck!
    Good luck!! :)
    Me (31) & DH (32)
    Married 9/27/2014
    DD Born 6/23/16
    Baby #2 Due 3/7/20
  • meggyme said:
    Officially starting sleep training today. Jackie is generally a good sleeper. She gets put down drowsy but awake and usually can get herself to sleep. She still wakes to eat, but especially after 5/6am has the tendency to wake multiple times before we're up for the day. When she's not waking to eat, which she still does a couple times per night but are starting to be more spread out, I'm giving her 5 minutes to figure it out herself before going in to give a paci and calm her down before putting her back drowsy. So far 5 minutes seems to be long enough for her to soothe and fall asleep, but I will ramp it up if needed. Wish me luck!
    Good luck!! :)
     Careful with the paci cause she may see it as a crutch to calm herself.  We did shushing and patting the first few days and the really helped. The longest he cried was 20-30 min as we were soothing him and that was only once or twice a nighr.  After like two days he hardly fussed more than a few minutes and rarely he went as long as 10 min.  Now he may fuss for a minute or two if at all and doesn't need any shushing or patting to fall asleep at all.
  • meggyme said:
    Officially starting sleep training today. Jackie is generally a good sleeper. She gets put down drowsy but awake and usually can get herself to sleep. She still wakes to eat, but especially after 5/6am has the tendency to wake multiple times before we're up for the day. When she's not waking to eat, which she still does a couple times per night but are starting to be more spread out, I'm giving her 5 minutes to figure it out herself before going in to give a paci and calm her down before putting her back drowsy. So far 5 minutes seems to be long enough for her to soothe and fall asleep, but I will ramp it up if needed. Wish me luck!
    Good luck!! :)
     Careful with the paci cause she may see it as a crutch to calm herself.  We did shushing and patting the first few days and the really helped. The longest he cried was 20-30 min as we were soothing him and that was only once or twice a nighr.  After like two days he hardly fussed more than a few minutes and rarely he went as long as 10 min.  Now he may fuss for a minute or two if at all and doesn't need any shushing or patting to fall asleep at all.
    I know! I feel like right now it's better thancluster feeding or nursing to sleep but it's definitely not what I want long term. I need to feed her and then walk around and pat her butt/rock her.
    Me (31) & DH (32)
    Married 9/27/2014
    DD Born 6/23/16
    Baby #2 Due 3/7/20
  • I wouldn't worry about the paci. That habit can be broken. Worry if your child is like my son, who will chronically suck his two fingers to soothe or go to sleep.
  • meggyme said:
    Officially starting sleep training today. Jackie is generally a good sleeper. She gets put down drowsy but awake and usually can get herself to sleep. She still wakes to eat, but especially after 5/6am has the tendency to wake multiple times before we're up for the day. When she's not waking to eat, which she still does a couple times per night but are starting to be more spread out, I'm giving her 5 minutes to figure it out herself before going in to give a paci and calm her down before putting her back drowsy. So far 5 minutes seems to be long enough for her to soothe and fall asleep, but I will ramp it up if needed. Wish me luck!
    Good luck!! :)
     Careful with the paci cause she may see it as a crutch to calm herself.  We did shushing and patting the first few days and the really helped. The longest he cried was 20-30 min as we were soothing him and that was only once or twice a nighr.  After like two days he hardly fussed more than a few minutes and rarely he went as long as 10 min.  Now he may fuss for a minute or two if at all and doesn't need any shushing or patting to fall asleep at all.
    I know! I feel like right now it's better thancluster feeding or nursing to sleep but it's definitely not what I want long term. I need to feed her and then walk around and pat her butt/rock her.

    Yeah I'm happy he can sleep without it now.  It was a hard 3 days but totally worth it.  Now I give him the paci if he is fussy during wake time but he just chews on it.  Lol
  • Levi sucks his fingers too bc I don't give a paci.  But he usually only does it when he's getting really hungry or only sometimes when I put him to bed when he's not super sleepy.  when he does it I just pull his hand out and shush him.  I might have to do it a couple times but he goes on to sleep without getting upset.  

    My biggest worry with him for the moment, while in his crib, is that he can and likes to roll back to belly, but he can't roll back yet.  
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