June 2016 Moms

Baby Sleep Questions

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Re: Baby Sleep Questions

  • Is it worth it to even try sleep training techniques for naps? I feel like we have gotten to a good place for nighttime sleeping where he's getting pretty good at putting himself to sleep once he goes into the crib. We used the shoosh pat method, and while it took a few rough nights to get to him there, I would say it was a good method that worked for him.

    He has always been just an okay napper. He has always needed help to take naps by rocking or walking around with him, and we always have to hold him once he is asleep or else he wakes up the second we put him down. I would say I do kind of obsess over how much sleep he is getting, which im trying to not do so much, so I have been really reluctant to mess with his napping too much.

    He has been consistently doing well at night for the past couple of weeks, so I thought I'd give the shoosh pat method a shot with his napping. I FINALLY have him sleeping in his crib right now, but it seemed like it took a whole lot longer and a lot more tears than when we first started the same method at night.  Now I am doubting even trying to sleep train for naps and am wondering if I'm doing more harm than good. :/
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  • soulou17 said:
    Is it worth it to even try sleep training techniques for naps? I feel like we have gotten to a good place for nighttime sleeping where he's getting pretty good at putting himself to sleep once he goes into the crib. We used the shoosh pat method, and while it took a few rough nights to get to him there, I would say it was a good method that worked for him.

    He has always been just an okay napper. He has always needed help to take naps by rocking or walking around with him, and we always have to hold him once he is asleep or else he wakes up the second we put him down. I would say I do kind of obsess over how much sleep he is getting, which im trying to not do so much, so I have been really reluctant to mess with his napping too much.

    He has been consistently doing well at night for the past couple of weeks, so I thought I'd give the shoosh pat method a shot with his napping. I FINALLY have him sleeping in his crib right now, but it seemed like it took a whole lot longer and a lot more tears than when we first started the same method at night.  Now I am doubting even trying to sleep train for naps and am wondering if I'm doing more harm than good. :/

    We did it for putting him down for the nap but never to extend the naps.  We found he went down for naps really easy once he was able to go down for bedtime well.  Night sleep always improves first before daytime.
  • Welp, tonight is the night. Damien rolled from his back to stomach almost instantly when we put him down for bed. Anytime I go in to help him back to his back, he is back to his tummy before I even leave the room. I let him fuss for a bit before going in since he may roll back on his own or even fall asleep. 
  • Welp, tonight is the night. Damien rolled from his back to stomach almost instantly when we put him down for bed. Anytime I go in to help him back to his back, he is back to his tummy before I even leave the room. I let him fuss for a bit before going in since he may roll back on his own or even fall asleep. 

    Ah yes I remember this.  It sucked for a night or two then I said screw it and just let him sleep that way.  Now we have the opposite problem.  The only time we see that Preston rolled tummy to back is while he is trying to sleep.  Makes no sense and he's done it the past two nights.  He starts screaming and we look and see he flipped to his back and doesn't like to sleep that way.  I'm sure that in another month or so he will be rolling easier for. Tummy to back so that if he finds himself rolled over he can put himself back and wont call me in.  That or he will learn to sleep in different positions.
  • Welp, tonight is the night. Damien rolled from his back to stomach almost instantly when we put him down for bed. Anytime I go in to help him back to his back, he is back to his tummy before I even leave the room. I let him fuss for a bit before going in since he may roll back on his own or even fall asleep. 

    Ah yes I remember this.  It sucked for a night or two then I said screw it and just let him sleep that way.  Now we have the opposite problem.  The only time we see that Preston rolled tummy to back is while he is trying to sleep.  Makes no sense and he's done it the past two nights.  He starts screaming and we look and see he flipped to his back and doesn't like to sleep that way.  I'm sure that in another month or so he will be rolling easier for. Tummy to back so that if he finds himself rolled over he can put himself back and wont call me in.  That or he will learn to sleep in different positions.
    We let him roll and do corrections for about 45 minutes, then the poor guy started screaming and crying so intensely that he started hyperventilating. He is sleping in his rock-n-play at the moment but we plan to move him to the crib in a little bit and see how the night goes. I've read that this rolling phase can last a few days to 2 weeks.
  • Welp, tonight is the night. Damien rolled from his back to stomach almost instantly when we put him down for bed. Anytime I go in to help him back to his back, he is back to his tummy before I even leave the room. I let him fuss for a bit before going in since he may roll back on his own or even fall asleep. 

    Ah yes I remember this.  It sucked for a night or two then I said screw it and just let him sleep that way.  Now we have the opposite problem.  The only time we see that Preston rolled tummy to back is while he is trying to sleep.  Makes no sense and he's done it the past two nights.  He starts screaming and we look and see he flipped to his back and doesn't like to sleep that way.  I'm sure that in another month or so he will be rolling easier for. Tummy to back so that if he finds himself rolled over he can put himself back and wont call me in.  That or he will learn to sleep in different positions.
    We let him roll and do corrections for about 45 minutes, then the poor guy started screaming and crying so intensely that he started hyperventilating. He is sleping in his rock-n-play at the moment but we plan to move him to the crib in a little bit and see how the night goes. I've read that this rolling phase can last a few days to 2 weeks.
     Yeah our first rolling phase was like 3 days. But if you count when he tried to roll on his side it was more like a week or two.
  • Welp, tonight is the night. Damien rolled from his back to stomach almost instantly when we put him down for bed. Anytime I go in to help him back to his back, he is back to his tummy before I even leave the room. I let him fuss for a bit before going in since he may roll back on his own or even fall asleep. 

    Ah yes I remember this.  It sucked for a night or two then I said screw it and just let him sleep that way.  Now we have the opposite problem.  The only time we see that Preston rolled tummy to back is while he is trying to sleep.  Makes no sense and he's done it the past two nights.  He starts screaming and we look and see he flipped to his back and doesn't like to sleep that way.  I'm sure that in another month or so he will be rolling easier for. Tummy to back so that if he finds himself rolled over he can put himself back and wont call me in.  That or he will learn to sleep in different positions.
    We let him roll and do corrections for about 45 minutes, then the poor guy started screaming and crying so intensely that he started hyperventilating. He is sleping in his rock-n-play at the moment but we plan to move him to the crib in a little bit and see how the night goes. I've read that this rolling phase can last a few days to 2 weeks.
     Yeah our first rolling phase was like 3 days. But if you count when he tried to roll on his side it was more like a week or two.
    He's been rolling to his side (and sleeping that way) for about 2 weeks and didn't have any issues with that at least. Fingers crossed this new part doesn't last too long.
  • Feels like it's always something doesn't it? You solve one sleep problem only to get another. lol
  • So I just moved him to the crib and he sorta woke up just a tad and then rolled to his tummy. He didn't cry or fuss, just fell back to sleep. I needed to adjust the camera by his crib and while doing so, I noticed he adjusted himself. Upon closer inspection, his face was face-down on the mattress and he was breathing really hard. I turned his head to the side so he could breathe but now I'm terrified that he will reposition badly again. He may have adjusted himself eventually but I was too nervous to let him continue in that position.

    Now I'm torn because he is sleeping very peacefully and I want him to be comfortable on his tummy if he is going to keep rolling onto it at night but then I'm afraid he will suffocate. Do I put him back in the rock-n-play? I asked my husband and he said, "Whatever you think is best."  :#
  • I would flip him onto his back and keep him in the crib as opposed to the Rock and play, easier to breathe in crib if flipped over than in the rock and play. According to my dr once they can roll they should be able to adjust themselves as necessary for adequate breathing. I know it doesn't stop it from being scary though. Good luck!
  • Yeah it's scary.  We have a blanket hanging over the side of the crib and a tightly rolled towel at the top cause sometimes he crawls to the end of the crib and when he adjusts himself at night he will pick his head all the way up and smack it down and I'm Africa he will hit the rails.  Now I noticed he will crawl all the way up and put his head in the corner and I get worried that he will suffocate there.  I have to remind myself that he is not a tiny newborn and has been able to move around super well of he needs to.  
  • edited October 2016
    I ended up letting him sleep for a little bit in the rnp and then moved him to the crib again. As luck would have it, he didn't try to roll to his tummy and slept the rest of the night without issue. He just woke up (6:30am) and at that point rolled to his tummy. He cried of course but this is his normal wake-up time anyway so no biggie.

    I plan to focus on rolls during his awake times and let him roll during naps, so at least I can monitor and assist where needed.
  • I ended up letting him sleep for a little bit in the rnp and then moved him to the crib again. As luck would have it, he didn't try to roll to his tummy and slept the rest of the night without issue. He just woke up (6:30am) and at that point rolled to his tummy. He cried of course but this is his normal wake-up time anyway so no biggie.

    I plan to focus on rolls during his awake times and let him roll during naps, so at least I can monitor and assist where needed.
     Good idea. We played row your boat during the day and rolled him back and forth till he was over it. Lol
  • I ended up letting him sleep for a little bit in the rnp and then moved him to the crib again. As luck would have it, he didn't try to roll to his tummy and slept the rest of the night without issue. He just woke up (6:30am) and at that point rolled to his tummy. He cried of course but this is his normal wake-up time anyway so no biggie.

    I plan to focus on rolls during his awake times and let him roll during naps, so at least I can monitor and assist where needed.
     Good idea. We played row your boat during the day and rolled him back and forth till he was over it. Lol
    I like that, I'll give that a try. He can complete the roll on his own once I give him a little nudging but I'm hoping with tons or practice, he'll be able to do it on his own soon...or at least get him comfortable with sleeping on his tummy.

    I think if I hadn't freaked last night, he would have slept a decent chunk while on his tummy. He seemed to be content at one point. I'll see how naps go today and give it another try tonight.
  • Upon closer inspection, his face was face-down on the mattress and he was breathing really hard. I turned his head to the side so he could breathe but now I'm terrified that he will reposition badly again. He may have adjusted himself eventually but I was too nervous to let him continue in that position.
    We had this happen the other day. He seemed to be breathing just fine, but I was perplexed how that could even be comfortable. It was early in the morning, so I ended up just sitting next to his crib and watching him until eventually he turned his head.

    I love that our June babies are getting big enough to find ways to make themselves comfortable, but it sure is nerve wracking waiting for them to figure it out!
  • annaf2011 said:
    Upon closer inspection, his face was face-down on the mattress and he was breathing really hard. I turned his head to the side so he could breathe but now I'm terrified that he will reposition badly again. He may have adjusted himself eventually but I was too nervous to let him continue in that position.
    We had this happen the other day. He seemed to be breathing just fine, but I was perplexed how that could even be comfortable. It was early in the morning, so I ended up just sitting next to his crib and watching him until eventually he turned his head.

    I love that our June babies are getting big enough to find ways to make themselves comfortable, but it sure is nerve wracking waiting for them to figure it out!
    I'm resolved to do the same tonight, make sure that he is okay and then let him just sleep on his tummy...assuming he falls asleep in that position. They always find new ways to keep us on our toes.
  • So I just moved him to the crib and he sorta woke up just a tad and then rolled to his tummy. He didn't cry or fuss, just fell back to sleep. I needed to adjust the camera by his crib and while doing so, I noticed he adjusted himself. Upon closer inspection, his face was face-down on the mattress and he was breathing really hard. I turned his head to the side so he could breathe but now I'm terrified that he will reposition badly again. He may have adjusted himself eventually but I was too nervous to let him continue in that position.

    Now I'm torn because he is sleeping very peacefully and I want him to be comfortable on his tummy if he is going to keep rolling onto it at night but then I'm afraid he will suffocate. Do I put him back in the rock-n-play? I asked my husband and he said, "Whatever you think is best."  :#
    My son started doing that as well, but my husband moves his head when he can. Our pediatrician said to put him on his back whenever possible but that it is unrealistic to stay up all night like that. LO moves himself around anyway, lifting his tush and slamming his body all around. Ugh
  • So I just moved him to the crib and he sorta woke up just a tad and then rolled to his tummy. He didn't cry or fuss, just fell back to sleep. I needed to adjust the camera by his crib and while doing so, I noticed he adjusted himself. Upon closer inspection, his face was face-down on the mattress and he was breathing really hard. I turned his head to the side so he could breathe but now I'm terrified that he will reposition badly again. He may have adjusted himself eventually but I was too nervous to let him continue in that position.

    Now I'm torn because he is sleeping very peacefully and I want him to be comfortable on his tummy if he is going to keep rolling onto it at night but then I'm afraid he will suffocate. Do I put him back in the rock-n-play? I asked my husband and he said, "Whatever you think is best."  :#
    My son started doing that as well, but my husband moves his head when he can. Our pediatrician said to put him on his back whenever possible but that it is unrealistic to stay up all night like that. LO moves himself around anyway, lifting his tush and slamming his body all around. Ugh
    I noticed he only rolls completely to his tummy on the left side so if I position him in the crib close to the bars, he doesn't do the roll since he doesn't have room to complete it. He will still roll to his right side but not all the way to his tummy. He moves around a lot at night too so it isn't foolproof (he made it to his tummy last night at 1am, I put him on his back and he slept the rest of the night). He lifts his bum and slams it down too when on his tummy. My husband says he is baby twerking. I shake my head, cringe, and tell him not to taint something cute and innocent with that imagery haha.
  • LOL - my hubs calls it "chaka-chaka" which is my son's fidgeting around, but he said it was "extreme" with him slamming his legs around and lifting his butt when face down.
  • Preston crawled all over the crib last night.  We placed him belly down all the way at the bottom of the crib and by morning he was at the top with his head against the bars and when he woke up I found that we did a 180 and crawled to the other end. Little wiggle butt
  • Savannah woke up at 9am yesterday she napped twice in the car for 20 minutes at 11am and 1pm, she napped for 30 minutes in the rock n play at 3:15.

    Then she stayed up until MIDNIGHT. Would not go to sleep, kept needing to eat, etc. How she was awake until then is beyond me. I could have gone to bed at 8.

    The kicker? She woke up at 2am and wouldn't go back down without nursing. She must just be so overtired that she doesn't even know what to do with herself. I seriously wish there was a reset button on babies so we could start over. I am EXHAUSTED and I feel like an awful mother that I can't get my baby sleep.

    How am I going to go back to work on the 28th? I am going to have to wake up at 5am every morning.
    Me (31) & DH (32)
    Married 9/27/2014
    DD Born 6/23/16
    Baby #2 Due 3/7/20
  • Savannah woke up at 9am yesterday she napped twice in the car for 20 minutes at 11am and 1pm, she napped for 30 minutes in the rock n play at 3:15.

    Then she stayed up until MIDNIGHT. Would not go to sleep, kept needing to eat, etc. How she was awake until then is beyond me. I could have gone to bed at 8.

    The kicker? She woke up at 2am and wouldn't go back down without nursing. She must just be so overtired that she doesn't even know what to do with herself. I seriously wish there was a reset button on babies so we could start over. I am EXHAUSTED and I feel like an awful mother that I can't get my baby sleep.

    How am I going to go back to work on the 28th? I am going to have to wake up at 5am every morning.
    It's official, we have the same child. I said to my husband last night that C's sleep/nap patterns are so effed up I don't even know where to begin to fix them. Where IS that reset button?!
  • Savannah woke up at 9am yesterday she napped twice in the car for 20 minutes at 11am and 1pm, she napped for 30 minutes in the rock n play at 3:15.

    Then she stayed up until MIDNIGHT. Would not go to sleep, kept needing to eat, etc. How she was awake until then is beyond me. I could have gone to bed at 8.

    The kicker? She woke up at 2am and wouldn't go back down without nursing. She must just be so overtired that she doesn't even know what to do with herself. I seriously wish there was a reset button on babies so we could start over. I am EXHAUSTED and I feel like an awful mother that I can't get my baby sleep.

    How am I going to go back to work on the 28th? I am going to have to wake up at 5am every morning.
    It's official, we have the same child. I said to my husband last night that C's sleep/nap patterns are so effed up I don't even know where to begin to fix them. Where IS that reset button?!
    Seriously! I feel like I'm an bab mom or something because of the lack of Consistency. I was just following her lead in the beginning but 4 months with little sleep has turned me into an ugly, tired monster and her into a don't need to sleep ever monster.
    Me (31) & DH (32)
    Married 9/27/2014
    DD Born 6/23/16
    Baby #2 Due 3/7/20
  • Savannah woke up at 9am yesterday she napped twice in the car for 20 minutes at 11am and 1pm, she napped for 30 minutes in the rock n play at 3:15.

    Then she stayed up until MIDNIGHT. Would not go to sleep, kept needing to eat, etc. How she was awake until then is beyond me. I could have gone to bed at 8.

    The kicker? She woke up at 2am and wouldn't go back down without nursing. She must just be so overtired that she doesn't even know what to do with herself. I seriously wish there was a reset button on babies so we could start over. I am EXHAUSTED and I feel like an awful mother that I can't get my baby sleep.

    How am I going to go back to work on the 28th? I am going to have to wake up at 5am every morning.
    It's official, we have the same child. I said to my husband last night that C's sleep/nap patterns are so effed up I don't even know where to begin to fix them. Where IS that reset button?!
    Seriously! I feel like I'm an bab mom or something because of the lack of Consistency. I was just following her lead in the beginning but 4 months with little sleep has turned me into an ugly, tired monster and her into a don't need to sleep ever monster.
    I completely relate to all of this. We had been having a few better nights of sleep (and by better, I mean S was sleeping 5-6 hours at a time), and then last night he was awake at least every 2 hours. Not only awake, but wide awake thinking it was time to play in the middle of the night. 

    You are not a bad mom, though! I just try to keep reminding myself that so much of how a baby sleeps depends on his or her temperament, and if we weren't having sleep struggles we'd probably be having some other kinds of struggle. 

    Hang in there! As long as we stay the course, our babies are bound to learn how to sleep eventually. 
  • Thanks everyone!


    Fingers crossed that daylight savings helps get her down earlier at least!
    Me (31) & DH (32)
    Married 9/27/2014
    DD Born 6/23/16
    Baby #2 Due 3/7/20
  • Damien keeps getting stuck in the bars of the crib. It's usually an arm or a leg. He screams, of course, because he can't get free and he is scared. We are thinking of putting up the bumpers. I'm not thrilled with the idea but we don't know what else to do.
  • Damien keeps getting stuck in the bars of the crib. It's usually an arm or a leg. He screams, of course, because he can't get free and he is scared. We are thinking of putting up the bumpers. I'm not thrilled with the idea but we don't know what else to do.
    I have seen some crib bumpers at the store that are just mesh screen, so baby can breathe, but no limbs get stuck.  They may be a good alternative a full on bumper.
  • Damien keeps getting stuck in the bars of the crib. It's usually an arm or a leg. He screams, of course, because he can't get free and he is scared. We are thinking of putting up the bumpers. I'm not thrilled with the idea but we don't know what else to do.
    Same thing was happening to Ethan. So we put on the mesh, breathable bumper. It works great!  It was kind of pricey though ($50). 
  • Damien keeps getting stuck in the bars of the crib. It's usually an arm or a leg. He screams, of course, because he can't get free and he is scared. We are thinking of putting up the bumpers. I'm not thrilled with the idea but we don't know what else to do.

    I didn't do it for the same reason but he kept bumping his head so I just hung a thin blanket over the rail and tucked it in.  You can't see through it but it was a good temp solution. Maybe do that until you can find those mesh crib bumpers.
  • I was having the same problem. If I put her in the crib parallel to the bars, she'd roll right into then and get stuck. I lay her down diagonally now and she hasn't gotten stuck in the last week or so.
    DD1: June '16 DD2: March ‘19 :::: Married since 2011 :::: USN Wife ::::
  • I ordered a mesh bumper and then my husband told me to cancel it because we have one already (non-mesh). I told him it wasn't safe but he didn't want us spending money. 


  • I ordered a mesh bumper and then my husband told me to cancel it because we have one already (non-mesh). I told him it wasn't safe but he didn't want us spending money. 


     Personally I wouldn't worry too much about the bumper you have unless it's a pillow bumper vs the flat ones.  As long as he can roll and turn his head I think you're safe.  Once babies roll the risk of SIDS goes down so much. I think that's why the average reduction rate in SIDS is at 6 months, cause that's when most babies are able to roll.
  • I don't want to jinx it but baby has slept thru the night the last 5 nights. He wakes up at 5:30am, but this is after going to bed around 7pm-8pm.
  • I think we may be turning a corner! I got Savannah to nap yesterday for an hour in the rock n play- the rest of the afternoon wasn't great because of errands though.

    At 8:30 I read to her, fed her and rocked her and put her down in her bassinet at 9:15. She slept until 2:30!

    She has been fighting us for literal hours to go down recently, waking up every 2-3 hours and refusing to nap.

    Fingers crossed this means the end of the 4 month sleep regression is near!!
    Me (31) & DH (32)
    Married 9/27/2014
    DD Born 6/23/16
    Baby #2 Due 3/7/20
  • I thought our sleep training was going well, but the last couple days naps and night times have taken much longer to get her down. I thought I was clear of the sleep regression since once she's asleep she's fine. She's just fighting sleep sooooo hard.
    DD1: June '16 DD2: March ‘19 :::: Married since 2011 :::: USN Wife ::::
  • meggyme said:
    I thought our sleep training was going well, but the last couple days naps and night times have taken much longer to get her down. I thought I was clear of the sleep regression since once she's asleep she's fine. She's just fighting sleep sooooo hard.
    It's so hard!! Not sure if Jackie is like this but Savannah gets herself so worked up so quickly! If she's overtired and and I put her down asleep she wakes up as soon as she touches the bassinet and within 30 seconds is crying so hard she is holding her breath and turning purple. It's literally the same reaction as she has to getting her vaccines!

    She is such a drama queen!!!

    Last night felt like a dream because she went down right away, I couldn't believe it!
    Me (31) & DH (32)
    Married 9/27/2014
    DD Born 6/23/16
    Baby #2 Due 3/7/20
  • meggyme said:
    I thought our sleep training was going well, but the last couple days naps and night times have taken much longer to get her down. I thought I was clear of the sleep regression since once she's asleep she's fine. She's just fighting sleep sooooo hard.
    Damien takes a bit to settle for the night. Some nights are just awful and filled with crying/screaming but most nights he eventually falls asleep on his own without too much assistance. He will often whimper periodically but I'll take that over screaming any day.
  • She used to just fuss for a couple minutes and be out before the initial 5 minutes is up. The last day or so it's been closer to 1/2 hr - 45 minutes. She's almost 4 1/2 months now. Sigh...
    DD1: June '16 DD2: March ‘19 :::: Married since 2011 :::: USN Wife ::::
  • meggyme said:
    She used to just fuss for a couple minutes and be out before the initial 5 minutes is up. The last day or so it's been closer to 1/2 hr - 45 minutes. She's almost 4 1/2 months now. Sigh...
     How long is she awake between naps.  For us it was 1.5-2 hours at most then suddenly he was going 2-2.5 and now it's 2.5-3.  if I out him down at the 2 hour mark he will fight me a bit.  What are her sleep cues?
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