February 2017 Moms

Symptoms Thread w/o 9/5/16

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Re: Symptoms Thread w/o 9/5/16

  • @rmpiszczek I feel you with the headaches...hugs! Mine have gotten worse lately, and they're just as you describe--like a dehydration headache. A bit of caffeine does often help for me, but sometimes there's just nothing I can do. The best "remedy" I've found is following a very specific routine each day (start day with a giant glass of water, eat within an hour of waking and at least every two hours during the day, consume half a cup of coffee by 10 am, drink enough water to pee at least every hour, etc.), meant to keep me me fully hydrated and evenly blood sugar-ed, that seems to prevent them. This can be super annoying on busy or unusually scheduled days, but I regret when I don't follow it! Maybe you can experiment and find some strategies that work for you?
    Me: 34 
    Husband: 35
    Married: June 2007
    Son Max born 1/10/17
    BFP #2: 10/5/17; EDD: 6/11/18
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  • Third vote for caffeine. I drink half a cup in the morning, otherwise there's a guaranteed headache in the afternoon. I was not a regular coffee drinker pre pregnancy, so kind of bummed I am now, but I also hate headaches.
  • Ok - I need advice y'all and it is symptom related. I've had a few emotional days but I can't pin the reason on any one specific thing. My impression is that it is a bout of pregnancy related hormones and/or depression issues (I've struggled in the past, I've been balanced on meds for awhile an increase in meds isn't in the books right now) - but DH doesn't understand how I don't know why I'm bawling my eyes out and telling him that it is hormones doesn't seem to cut it. He gets depressed, but when he's sad he feels like he has a reason why. I have a number of reasons why I could be crying right now but none are end of the world - I'm lonely and in a new place (moved a month ago DH comes on Tuesday next week... but it has been 4+ weeks), I could use a hug, the cat was acting old (she's 11, it will happen from time to time), I'm worried about finances (we have savings, which is good because DH won't be working when baby comes due to going back to school soon), I'm worried about a number of things. So I have reasons but no explanation why all of a sudden it seems hard because these things aren't just popping up now.  

    Any ideas on how to explain pregnancy hormones to DH? Perhaps websites that look more official that I could send DH to show him "look this is a real thing"... Once we see an OB I'll mention the emotions and she'll tell me that is normal and he will be there and hear it and maybe listen to her. But that is not happening now and I could use some explanatory power right now.
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    Me: 33 & DH: 33
    Married: 07/2006
    TTC: 10/2015
    BFP #1: 11/2015, MC 12/2015 (7 weeks)
    BFP #2: 06/2016, EDD 2/15/2017



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  • @Starfish113 Sorry!  I was actually suggesting that you try weaning off as an alternative to straight up skipping one (in the case of Zofran as it sounds like it's just one a day).  I thought if you could attempt to wean off, then if you weren't ready yet your symptoms might not be as bad as if you completely skipped it.

  • JulesFoJulesFo member
    edited September 2016
    @catiecatp, I wish I could send a hug to you right now. First, if you do think that the feelings are in any way related to depression, definitely call your doctor. It may be worth a call to ease your mind anyway. That said, pregnancy is enough to make you feel legitimately unbalanced sometimes. The other day I started laugh-crying for absolutely no reason. We laughed about it later, but it makes you feel nuts. My thinking (and I'm not a professional, obv) is that those feelings caused by hormones should come and go. If you find yourself feeling down pretty consistently, call your dr. I'm sorry your DH doesn't understand. Honestly, your word should be worth more than any website. I'd suggest discussing it at an appointment with him present so the dr can validate and explain. Your dr should see you in between appointments if there are any concerns.

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  • @catiecatp So I feel like I have to clarify, depression is not "feeling sad" and it doesn't have a reason other than imbalances in your brain. however, depression is real and if you are concerned about that, I agree with PP that you should talk to your Dr. It is nothing to be ashamed of and may make you feel better or normalize your feelings now.

    The way I explain prego hormones is the way my mom described menopause to me: I am experiencing and emotion that on a normal day would register as a 2 on a 1-10 scale. but because of hormones, it is a 30. You'd be worried about finances, your cat, etc normally. pregnancy just enhances those feelings and sometimes adds new ones to the mix ;-)
  • Yes, @Gretchypoo! I totally used the same analogy to my DH. I was explaining feelings I had (about kids going back to school, tuition increase, etc.) and said I felt nuts. He said the feelings seemed normal and I agreed -- the feelings are normal, but the degree to which pregnancy seems to amplify them makes them feel not normal. The only thing better this pregnancy is the fact that I'm cutting myself a lot of slack and know it's normal since I've been down this path before. :) 

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  • I've been diagnosed with major depressive disorder - I know that what I'm feeling right now is similar to depression, but the relatively quick onset makes me think it is more hormone than MDD. If it doesn't resolve a few days after DH gets here then I'll go to my PCP if my OB doesn't have time to see me. 

    It is usually controlled - when I went to the doctor for my prenatal appointments before coming to the US she told me the standard options for antidepressants and I've been on about half of them already. They don't work for me, and believe me I've tried. I need high doses and I don't tend to stabilize for long. I also get horrible side effects that suggest my body doesn't respond well to that type of medication. What I use is a natural supplement and it tends to work better than traditional medicines - it sucks to be on them with no studies on the effects (though one is folate so that isn't an issue) but the alternative is to be depressed for 9 months and that has consequences for the fetus too... My PCP in Canada was fine with it, we'll see what my OB says here when I get in to see her (hopefully next week or the week after).

    Thankfully I no longer feel nauseated when I exercise - just tired and long work days - I need to get off my arse and exercise a bit and that should help too. And I have plans to go to prenatal yoga on Sunday...
    ---TW BFP and MC mentioned - scroll down past the Lilo and Stitch gif to avoid ---




    Me: 33 & DH: 33
    Married: 07/2006
    TTC: 10/2015
    BFP #1: 11/2015, MC 12/2015 (7 weeks)
    BFP #2: 06/2016, EDD 2/15/2017



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  • @catiecatp If you have any pregnancy books laying around, check for a chapter called "for dads and partners" or similar.  I have the Mayo Clinic book and my husband and I read through that chapter together.  It's really helpful to have the book saying what's normal and what's a concern and that it is part of his job to accept irrationality, minimize nausea triggers, ride out mood swings, and more. 

    Pregnant me has quite the temper, so that's been an adventure for both of us!
  • @catiecatp this is my first pregnancy and so far it's been totally normal for me to be just fine for a while and suddenly super emotional for a few days, so it definitely could be hormone related. Some of the ridiculous things I've seriously cried over this pregnancy:
    -in n out made my burger wrong and I didn't have time to go back in and have them fix it. 
    -a slightly heartwarming episode of the Andy Griffith show
    -I was making a bagged salad and realized I'd mixed in the little packet of pre cooked bacon bits without thinking and now I couldn't eat the salad because of listeria risk. This one caused a full blown meltdown.

    So I'd say it depends on how your feeling but if you just feel like you're over reacting to things that you normally wouldn't I think that's totally normal. Definitely check with your doc though to be safe. 
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  • @catiecatp I have MDD and would not recommend just powering through prenatal depression. It comes on strong and hard. I basically wanted to die every day for my entire pregnancy, but magically felt 1000x better the day he came out.  If you aren't willing to try wellbutrin or whatever they're suggesting, go regularly to a talk therapist and be honest. 
  • @catiecatp just keep in mind that pregnancy can affect your body in some intense, sudden and unpredictable ways. Given your prior diagnosis, keep a close eye on yourself and keep in touch with your dr. Don't be afraid to get another dr.'s opinion if you feel uncertain about anything. Take care - your body is doing an amazing thing, but it is hard work all around.

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  • @pennylucille I'll play too! Reasons I've cried:
    - A chipotle commercial
    - Panera forgot the turkey on my turkey avocado bacon sandwich and I was really hungry

    I also screamed at my husband because he didn't clean the basement for the 3rd week in a row.

    @catiecatp it sounds like you know what works for you. I think talking to your dr is a good idea and patience/ being lenient with yourself is good too :smile:
  • @catiecatp I struggle with depression too and it sounds like from one of your previous posts that meds weren't the best answer for you. I also didn't do so well on medications, I needed high doses and then I felt more like a zombie and didn't feel anything good or bad so I've been off meds for about 4 years now. What I did find helpful was joining a DBT group (Dialectical Behavior Therapy). It teaches you a lot of skills for recognizing your emotions and accepting them and getting past the tough ones. I found both group and private sessions with a therapist helpful but also enjoyed just reading some books on it too. I still have bad times and I'm lucky that DH is pretty understanding of me when I do have them but I've been so much happier since going off meds. I think that medication is great for people who it helps but I also wish more doctors would recommend things like DBT because our minds are really powerful and can accomplish a lot with the right skill sets. Good luck and I'm sending hugs!
    Me: 33 | DH: 34
    Married: October, 19, 2015
    EDD 2/22/17 <3 DS1 born on 3/2/17
    EDD 3/8/20 <3 DS2 born on 3/10/20
    EDD 11/24/23
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    sciatica is going to be the death of me! I teach at MDO (18-21m toddlers) 2 days a week... I can barely walk when I get home :/ 
    I also can't seem to sleep on either side. OB said I am totally fine to sleep on my back for the next couple of weeks, if need be. Still feel weird about it when I am doing it.  My cousin-in-law is lending me her expensive pregnancy pillow which is great, but i am still uncomfortable for the most part. I am glad I didn't spend the $75-$100 on it. 

    hoping massages once a week will help with my pain and still need to find a chiro near me that specializes in prenatal. 




















  • @Starfish113 ask about the non-dissolvable zofran when you get a refill! The dissolving zofran makes me so much sicker because my mouth gets all watery as it dissolves, it's just gross. So I always get it in the swallow form. They will probably warn you that "it doesn't work as fast" and it's probably true, but it definitely does just as good and no nasty dissolving! 
    I thought about that! I know it's not as fast, but I don't think I need it to be as fast now. That's the only kind that was available when I was pregnant with DD and it worked fine! Thanks for the idea :)
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  • @catiecatp and @marriedhamstermom, I'm not happy at all to hear you guys also struggle with depression, but I'll admit I'm almost thrilled to hear others say that meds don't really work for them either. I was also diagnosed MDD and have been put on and off a ton of different meds with results similar to what you both described. Higher doses with only short term (if any) stability and/or improvement in mood. I've tried so many different ones (all under the care of a psychiatrist) and keep waiting and hoping desperately to feel better and... Nothing.

    All I've ever heard is people talk about how much better they feel and what a difference it makes and I want that so badly. This may sound stupid, but I honestly didn't even know there was anyone else out there like me who just keep trying with meds but with no success. That DBT sounds really good though, I'll have to look into that. And I really am truly sorry for you both and anyone else here struggling with depression, anxiety, etc. I guess it was just comforting to find out I'm not alone in regards to medications being ineffective. 
  • @Munchie2.0 is that something you had previously, or did it occur with pregnancy! 

    When I was about 7 weeks I had been sitting in a chair for a long period of time and when I stood, I had this miserable pain in my sciatic nerve area and all the way down my leg. I thought I needed to pop my tailbone! :lol: 
    Ever since, it hasn't gone away at all. Today I could hardly put one leg into my pants. If it sit or stand for a long time is when it's the worst! Is there anything you take or do for it? I never had this before so I'm hoping it'll go away when baby's born!
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  • Just to add to the whole depression conversation, I have borderline personality disorder (which is like bipolar but more mild and the mood swings are faster...poor explanation but it's late).  

    It also is not chemical the way bipolar disorder is so is mostly treated with meds to get you through rough patches and lots of therapy.  Honestly my moods have been all over the place with the pregnancy and I know some part of that is the hormonal influence.  Having someone to talk to is so so helpful!
     Me: 27 | DH: 28
    TTC since January 2016

    BFP - 3/12/16 - MC 4/5/16
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  • @AfKash @MoonOverGoldsboro & @Patience7150
    thanks for the suggestions. I went caffeine free years ago (it makes me so shakey & jittery). So I didn't think to try it, but it sounds like it might do the trick. I don't like coffee (unless it's sweetened like crazy), but I do like tea every once in awhile. I'll pull out the old caffeinated tea bags I have and give it a shot next time the headache comes. Thanks again! 
  • I have to ask is anyone here who has previously suffered from depression really concerned about postpartum depression? I suffered from depression throughout high school and suffered a minor relapse combined with anxiety last year. I've been pretty okay so far, and luckily the pregnancy hasn't brought on and kind of severe hormonal change. However, with my mother who was bi-polar she hit an insane low after I was born, and my doctor did warn me that since I have struggled with depression in the past it could happen with me too. I think it's the one thing that's really scaring me about my pregnancy right now, is the what if. I don't know if postpartum is treated with medications or not, and even then I'm wary since I've had some nasty experiences(I'm lookin' at you Paxil).
  • edited September 2016
    @BeckS13 I have depression and I WAS worried about PPD but I'm not really anymore.  It's important to stay in contact with your psychiatrist, take your medication as directed, and show up to all your appointments with psych. It is very possible to keep your depression in check. I used to think that the medications are harmful to the baby so several times, I tried getting off the meds. But that's not safe.  There have been plenty of women who have taken antidepressants while pregnant and breastfeeding and the babies come out healthy. It is actually more important for you to continue with your meds. Because the other major risk of you don't, is harm to the baby.  PPD can cause detachment to your baby leading to neglect and in the very worst case, death of the baby or yourself.  


  • Tonight the sleep deprivation caught up to me and after one of my many nightly treks, instead of flopping onto my bed, I missed. Caught my shoulder on the edge of the dresser, the back of my head on the wall, my knee on the bedframe and my toe got stuck and wrenched somewhere on the way down. Not sure if that counts as a symptom but I'm still pathetically just laying next to the bed assessing the situation. I'm fine--a few bruises and scrapes--but my pride hurts! And now it's 4am and I have to be at work in a few hours and I haven't slept a wink yet. Booooo.
  • @MrsLittleMac um, OW. I hope you feel better and can get some sleep soon!! I'm a bit of an insomniac too and I've found that even half a unisom helps at night :)
  • @BeckS13 yes!! I was basically planning on having PPD, like it wasn't even a question in my mind.  I had the expectation of having it, so when I didn't-it was a shock!  It's nothing to be scared of-even though I totally get the fear-but as long as you go into it knowing it's a possibility, having your SO and other family or friends that are around you looking out for signs, and being super super honest with yourself, your support system, and your doctors-you'll be just fine even if PPD does come around. And yes, treatable with meds if you and your doctor decide to take that route!
  • @LivingLaVidaGinger I am miserable with sciatic pain lately. Foam rolling, stretching, and massage are the only thing keeping me walking. You can't take anti-inflammatories, which would be the only thing to calm the pain. There are good resources online for stretches to do, though! Just google "sciatica stretches pregnancy."
  • @BeckS13 - I noticed that you're concerned about a reaction with the meds, that Paxil didn't treat you nicely. I've been on several in the past and I can say that there is a wide variety of symptoms that can occur, and some didn't cause as many side effects as others. My issue has been the dosage, yes some antidepressants are safe in pregnancy, but they aren't recommended at the dosages I usually have had to take to get an effect. If this current bout of mood/emotion isn't cleared in a week or so after DH arrives I'll be talking to my OB about the antidepressants available, and searching the list for something that has a mechanism of action different than what I've taken in the past. It is possible, actually likely, that since you and I took antidepressants (for me 2006-2007) that they've come out with drugs that work differently. I wish my naturopath was down here in San Antonio, but I may do some sort of phone consult and/or have her search for someone in the city that has similar training as she does, and a similar philosophy.

    For me, PPD is a very real possibility, but I'll be vigilant for it so I'm not as worried as I might otherwise be. I guess that is the "benefit" of having been depressed, I know some of my classic symptoms to watch for whereas others who haven't suffered in the past may not (or may think it can't/won't happen to them).
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    Me: 33 & DH: 33
    Married: 07/2006
    TTC: 10/2015
    BFP #1: 11/2015, MC 12/2015 (7 weeks)
    BFP #2: 06/2016, EDD 2/15/2017



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  • becks13-2becks13-2 member
    edited September 2016
    AfKash said:
    @BeckS13 I have depression and I WAS worried about PPD but I'm not really anymore.  It's important to stay in contact with your psychiatrist, take your medication as directed, and show up to all your appointments with psych. It is very possible to keep your depression in check. I used to think that the medications are harmful to the baby so several times, I tried getting off the meds. But that's not safe.  There have been plenty of women who have taken antidepressants while pregnant and breastfeeding and the babies come out healthy. It is actually more important for you to continue with your meds. Because the other major risk of you don't, is harm to the baby.  PPD can cause detachment to your baby leading to neglect and in the very worst case, death of the baby or yourself.  
    I suppose I wasn't clear enough in my post. I'm actually not on any meds at this time; I haven't been since high school. I found counseling while I was taking, and after I was taken off the meds helped me more. My relapse was very short and with some counseling I was able to get over it without the use of medications. Also I presently do not see a psychiatrist. I had a brief encounter with one and she essentially brushed me off and never made time for me. The clinic where I was seeing her told me these exact words: "We're just setting up right now and so some people are falling through the cracks, sadly you are one of these people." I've generally always had and easier time getting through my depression with counseling and personal support groups anyway so I am confident I am okay right now. However, if I do get a case of PPD after the little one is born, and medication is recommended to me I won't immediately snub my nose at it, I'm just concerned simply because I've never had a doctor find the correct dosage, or the correct anti-depressant for me. Generally my encounters with medication have either made my depression worse, or altered my mood to make me very angry, I've never been leveled out. I think what I will have to remember is I have a good support group, and if I am not able to voice my concerns to my doctor, I can get my husband to pass on my history with anti-depressants for me and share my concerns. He's been really awesome in doing what he can to be there for me and help me through things.
  • @BeckS13. Sounds like you have a good idea of what usually works best for you! Glad you know you have a good support group :) I'm sure you'll do great no matter what you come up against once baby is here!
  • @Starfish113 Alarmist or not...that statement about the possibility of death is what finally got me to realize I need the medication. And when you're depressed, you think about death a lot. 


  • BeckS13 said:
    I have to ask is anyone here who has previously suffered from depression really concerned about postpartum depression? I suffered from depression throughout high school and suffered a minor relapse combined with anxiety last year. I've been pretty okay so far, and luckily the pregnancy hasn't brought on and kind of severe hormonal change. However, with my mother who was bi-polar she hit an insane low after I was born, and my doctor did warn me that since I have struggled with depression in the past it could happen with me too. I think it's the one thing that's really scaring me about my pregnancy right now, is the what if. I don't know if postpartum is treated with medications or not, and even then I'm wary since I've had some nasty experiences(I'm lookin' at you Paxil).
    I am, but I'm not. I had horrible PPD after my last pregnancy, but I got pregnant with #2 when #1 was only 8 months old, so I always chalked it
    up to out of whack hormones from being back to back pregnant. While it is scary, I'm hoping it will be easier since it's been almost 6 years since last pregnancy. 
  • @MrsLittleMac hope you're doing okay today. @BeckS13, I know this is off topic, but did you ever get to talk to your boss about taking it a little easier at work? 

    Anyone else hands going completely numb all the time? Mine are just getting worse and worse over time and started to really bother me. I don't like being a complainer, but this is getting ridiculous. Anyone else have this too? Poor circulation maybe? I didn't experience this with my first 2, so I don't know what to think. It went from just happening at night to happening throughout the day now. I'm starting to not be able to use my hands as much. Wtf? Elevating and shaking then were helping before too, but not anymore. My old OB just blew me off so I will bring it up to the new one I'm seeing. I was hoping it would just go away, no such luck. 
  • A friend of mine had that @Jab3 and she said it ended up being pregnancy carpal tunnel. Unfortunately it stuck around after pregnancy.
  • Oh no! That sucks. Need to know there is a light at the end of the tunnel or something I can do to get relief lol 

    sorry, I also meant to ask if anyone has used Sudafed for seasonal allergies? 
  • @Jab3 I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure sudafed is not approved during pregnancy? I use Zyrtec
  • Yeah no sudafed when you're pregnant. 
  • @jab3 I have the numbness tingling in my arms/hands/feet. Part of it is from having B vitamin deficiency. I'm taking supplements for that.  The other part is what PP mentioned....carpal tunnel aka generalized swelling from pregnancy.  

    Also, Sudafed is not recommended unless your congestion is super severe and you can't breathe.  But....usually the cause of allergy congestion is not built up mucus, rather, sinus inflammation.  So if that's the case, Sudafed wouldn't help anyways.  


  • Sudafed is on my doctor's approved list, but I'm pretty sure they mean the weak kind, not the awesome pseudoephedrine that actually works. The fact that so many doctors list it as a no, though, means I wouldn't take it unless it was somehow a true sniffles emergency (not likely). 
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