Sitting here rocking my toddler and nursing DS2 simultaneously. Up with one or the other, or both since 12. DS has been tired tantruming which is basically the rip current of toddler moods. If you face it head on, you lose (DH tried and ended up upset himself). If you don't swim completely clear to the side, you get sucked back in (which keeps happening to me trying to tend to both boys separately). At this point, I just need to get sleep before sunrise and I need to keep the crying below the impending vomit intensity. And get our infant back to sleep.
When your baby is sleeping like a rock at the 4 hour mark after a massive tantrum, but your breast is so engorged that you have to wake her up to feed... Here's hoping she doesn't have a 2 hour cry fest like last night after a longer stretch of sleep.
Baby is semi asleep, on me, on the boppy. This is great news, as I want sleep too. I should probably sleep immediately. The only bad thing is the sleeping is so light surely baby will wake should I move. But then again baby might wake anyway because baby isn't done with the night time/all early morning no sleep hazing, I could wait until a deeper sleep cycle for baby, but that might not come.
Only problem is that I am super hungry. I want toast, an egg, and orange juice. Then I will of course need to allow time to brush teeth.
Is it worth trying? How can I make this happen without baby getting upset and waking up the whole house? I feel like I am in a choose your own adventure book. I could just stay here. I might. But so hungry...
Update: I decided sleep wins. Maybe baby will stay asleep for an hour? Fingers crossed for 1 hour...
Not sure what's going on tonight with LO. Ended up fighting with her through 130am where I fell asleep 'feeding' her for an hour. Aka I'm pretty sure she was pacifying the whole time. I finally got her to calm down and go into the RNP and she didn't make a peep until 20 min ago... So I somehow got a 4 hour stretch in yet I went to change her and no dirty/wet diaper.. So I've been nursing her and I feel like I hear her swallowing, but am not very confident. She ate and pooped/peed like a champ all day yesterday so I'm confused on what's going on. Luckily we have our 2 week pedi appt today but anyone have any ideas?
Prior to tonight, the longest he cried was a few minutes. Im PRAYING this was just witching hour crying and not the start of colic because it was rough.
Baby is semi asleep, on me, on the boppy. This is great news, as I want sleep too. I should probably sleep immediately. The only bad thing is the sleeping is so light surely baby will wake should I move. But then again baby might wake anyway because baby isn't done with the night time/all early morning no sleep hazing, I could wait until a deeper sleep cycle for baby, but that might not come.
Only problem is that I am super hungry. I want toast, an egg, and orange juice. Then I will of course need to allow time to brush teeth.
Is it worth trying? How can I make this happen without baby getting upset and waking up the whole house? I feel like I am in a choose your own adventure book. I could just stay here. I might. But so hungry...
Ouch that's tough.... I am curious if sleep or hunger won!
Sleep won, I couldn't pass up any chance at sleep. I "slept" maybe 15 mins. Baby is now up again. If I am lucky enough that baby goes to sleep again I won't move baby to the bassinet. I think I am just going to co sleep. I think those are my choices at the moment. Co-sleep or no sleep. And since I have a toddler who might be up in 20 mins or so no sleep isn't really a feasible plan.
Sitting here rocking my toddler and nursing DS2 simultaneously. Up with one or the other, or both since 12. DS has been tired tantruming which is basically the rip current of toddler moods. If you face it head on, you lose (DH tried and ended up upset himself). If you don't swim completely clear to the side, you get sucked back in (which keeps happening to me trying to tend to both boys separately). At this point, I just need to get sleep before sunrise and I need to keep the crying below the impending vomit intensity. And get our infant back to sleep.
@kbrands7 This is how a lot of my afternoons are since my toddler isn't napping anymore and gets really clingy or throws a tantrum whenever I try to feed the baby. Having to deal with this in the middle of the night would be pure torture. I'm sorry.
Sitting here rocking my toddler and nursing DS2 simultaneously. Up with one or the other, or both since 12. DS has been tired tantruming which is basically the rip current of toddler moods. If you face it head on, you lose (DH tried and ended up upset himself). If you don't swim completely clear to the side, you get sucked back in (which keeps happening to me trying to tend to both boys separately). At this point, I just need to get sleep before sunrise and I need to keep the crying below the impending vomit intensity. And get our infant back to sleep.
Urg! Did you get everyone calm and get some sleep yourself?
I'm 3 weeks PP and I haven't left the house but 2 times maybe. I haven't been able to drive and I'm having serious cabin fever.
That sounds like hell. I go out at least every other day. I hope you're at least getting out for walks!!
I agree! I'm three weeks pp too and if I wasn't going for walks id be going nuts!
Ive been handicapped since the end of March. It ended Monday but still hard to walk. I can't wait until I am fully mobile again. I feel so bad for LO being stuck in the house all day with me
@tgortney The early weeks with a newborn are hard enough without the extra stress of recovering from an injury; you're going to be one strong mama on the other side of this. Big hugs to you! Hang in there, and I really hope you're able to be more mobile soon.
@yogahh By 5am-ish I got both asleep and called DH to help me get DS into bed since I was trapped under sleeping boys. Last night was one hell of a fluke! I haven't gotten much sleep since DS2 clusters starting around 6. @Bluejay3030 I'm sorry that's your afternoon. How stressful!
Sleep won, I couldn't pass up any chance at sleep. I "slept" maybe 15 mins. Baby is now up again. If I am lucky enough that baby goes to sleep again I won't move baby to the bassinet. I think I am just going to co sleep. I think those are my choices at the moment. Co-sleep or no sleep. And since I have a toddler who might be up in 20 mins or so no sleep isn't really a feasible plan.
@yogahh I think you had mentioned letting LO cry it out / self soothe right? How old was she when you started? I know LO is fed, changed, burped, swaddled, the right temperature, etc. so I'm really toying with the idea of letting him cry for a bit and figuring out how to self soothe rather than letting him fall asleep on me and going through hours of bedtime routine (on hour 3 now).
@yogahh I think you had mentioned letting LO cry it out / self soothe right? How old was she when you started? I know LO is fed, changed, burped, swaddled, the right temperature, etc. so I'm really toying with the idea of letting him cry for a bit and figuring out how to self soothe rather than letting him fall asleep on me and going through hours of bedtime routine (on hour 3 now).
@babyfmama you may find this article interesting!!
Letting babies cry themselves to sleep not damaging, study finds.
A controversial method of "sleep training" in which babies cry themselves to sleep does help babies fall asleep sooner and doesn't appear to have harmful effects. But an alternative technique works almost as well, a new study has found.
Guys, I downloaded a bunch of white noise apps for free. I've been using the beach sound on DS and it calms and puts him to sleep pretty instantly. He and I slept for 3 hours this morning when daddy went to work. Why did I not find this before?!
Sleep won, I couldn't pass up any chance at sleep. I "slept" maybe 15 mins. Baby is now up again. If I am lucky enough that baby goes to sleep again I won't move baby to the bassinet. I think I am just going to co sleep. I think those are my choices at the moment. Co-sleep or no sleep. And since I have a toddler who might be up in 20 mins or so no sleep isn't really a feasible plan.
Sleep won, I couldn't pass up any chance at sleep. I "slept" maybe 15 mins. Baby is now up again. If I am lucky enough that baby goes to sleep again I won't move baby to the bassinet. I think I am just going to co sleep. I think those are my choices at the moment. Co-sleep or no sleep. And since I have a toddler who might be up in 20 mins or so no sleep isn't really a feasible plan.
This is the reason I cosleep.
I was rewarded with 3.5 solid hours!
This is why I co-sleep too- there's a HUGE difference to me between waking up halfway every three hours to pop a boob out and feed and having to wake up fully, sit upright in a chair/couch, and wait anxiously for your baby to finish eating. Ezra (and I) fall asleep at the boob at least once a night but since we're laying down its totally fine
@yogahh I think you had mentioned letting LO cry it out / self soothe right? How old was she when you started? I know LO is fed, changed, burped, swaddled, the right temperature, etc. so I'm really toying with the idea of letting him cry for a bit and figuring out how to self soothe rather than letting him fall asleep on me and going through hours of bedtime routine (on hour 3 now).
@babyfmama you may find this article interesting!!
Letting babies cry themselves to sleep not damaging, study finds.
A controversial method of "sleep training" in which babies cry themselves to sleep does help babies fall asleep sooner and doesn't appear to have harmful effects. But an alternative technique works almost as well, a new study has found.
Sleep won, I couldn't pass up any chance at sleep. I "slept" maybe 15 mins. Baby is now up again. If I am lucky enough that baby goes to sleep again I won't move baby to the bassinet. I think I am just going to co sleep. I think those are my choices at the moment. Co-sleep or no sleep. And since I have a toddler who might be up in 20 mins or so no sleep isn't really a feasible plan.
This is the reason I cosleep.
I was rewarded with 3.5 solid hours!
This is why I co-sleep too- there's a HUGE difference to me between waking up halfway every three hours to pop a boob out and feed and having to wake up fully, sit upright in a chair/couch, and wait anxiously for your baby to finish eating. Ezra (and I) fall asleep at the boob at least once a night but since we're laying down its totally fine
My LO is too little to feed lying down just yet, but I'm already looking forward to it!
Attempted the bassinet tonight with LO. Caved within 10 min and she was back in the RNP. I needed that 3.5 hour stretch of sleep... Maybe tomorrow we'll work on sleeping on a flat surface.. Or maybe I'll keep choosing sleep lol
@Kennedy0830 if it helps, with DS1 we used the rnp for the first few weeks until he showed even the slightest signs of being able to turn on his side and then transitioned to a bassinet for a flat surface. He was fine in the bassinet around 6 weeks and was sleeping in his crib by 3 months so don't despair, the rnp is amazing when they're this little. And so is 3.5 hours of sleep.
@yogahh I think you had mentioned letting LO cry it out / self soothe right? How old was she when you started? I know LO is fed, changed, burped, swaddled, the right temperature, etc. so I'm really toying with the idea of letting him cry for a bit and figuring out how to self soothe rather than letting him fall asleep on me and going through hours of bedtime routine (on hour 3 now).
No, we're following Happiest BAby on the Block. No CIO or self soothing. Try it before CIO. I know study came out saying CIO is ok but at a few weeks old I think they are too young.
@yogahh I think you had mentioned letting LO cry it out / self soothe right? How old was she when you started? I know LO is fed, changed, burped, swaddled, the right temperature, etc. so I'm really toying with the idea of letting him cry for a bit and figuring out how to self soothe rather than letting him fall asleep on me and going through hours of bedtime routine (on hour 3 now).
No, we're following Happiest BAby on the Block. No CIO or self soothing. Try it before CIO. I know study came out saying CIO is ok but at a few weeks old I think they are too young.
I'm with you. Even though I linked that study I don't let Adeline cry it out at all. Seems cruel when they're so little! I'm going to check out that book too. I've heard about it from a few people now
@yogahh I think you had mentioned letting LO cry it out / self soothe right? How old was she when you started? I know LO is fed, changed, burped, swaddled, the right temperature, etc. so I'm really toying with the idea of letting him cry for a bit and figuring out how to self soothe rather than letting him fall asleep on me and going through hours of bedtime routine (on hour 3 now).
No, we're following Happiest BAby on the Block. No CIO or self soothing. Try it before CIO. I know study came out saying CIO is ok but at a few weeks old I think they are too young.
I'm with you. Even though I linked that study I don't let Adeline cry it out at all. Seems cruel when they're so little! I'm going to check out that book too. I've heard about it from a few people now
I don't know if it's a fluke or if it works.. But since starting it she's slept at least 6 hours a night. Last night was 9 hours with one wake up for a feeding. I wholeheartedly recommend it to everyone!
@yogahh I think you had mentioned letting LO cry it out / self soothe right? How old was she when you started? I know LO is fed, changed, burped, swaddled, the right temperature, etc. so I'm really toying with the idea of letting him cry for a bit and figuring out how to self soothe rather than letting him fall asleep on me and going through hours of bedtime routine (on hour 3 now).
No, we're following Happiest BAby on the Block. No CIO or self soothing. Try it before CIO. I know study came out saying CIO is ok but at a few weeks old I think they are too young.
I'm with you. Even though I linked that study I don't let Adeline cry it out at all. Seems cruel when they're so little! I'm going to check out that book too. I've heard about it from a few people now
I don't know if it's a fluke or if it works.. But since starting it she's slept at least 6 hours a night. Last night was 9 hours with one wake up for a feeding. I wholeheartedly recommend it to everyone!
Attempted the bassinet tonight with LO. Caved within 10 min and she was back in the RNP. I needed that 3.5 hour stretch of sleep... Maybe tomorrow we'll work on sleeping on a flat surface.. Or maybe I'll keep choosing sleep lol
That is awesome you got 3.5 hours!
Baby # 1 used the RNP for night time for months. This baby doesn't like it (and not the halo bassinet either) but I keep trying, just in case I didn't get the memo and something has changed.
After an interesting first week alone with a toddler and newborn where baby won't always reliably nap very well in RNP or bassinet I added baby wearing to the mix. That way I can attend to my toddler and if baby is fussy/reflux baby can nap in their preferred location (on a person). Then both babies are happy.
@yogahh so I have that book and I understand the five S's... But how did it result in 6hour sleep sessions at night?! Are you calming her instead of feeding her? BC I'm thinking of trying that instead of letting him nurse every time he wakes up (every 2 hours or so).
@yogahh so I have that book and I understand the five S's... But how did it result in 6hour sleep sessions at night?! Are you calming her instead of feeding her? BC I'm thinking of trying that instead of letting him nurse every time he wakes up (every 2 hours or so).
So I just skim read the book tonight...I skipped to the parts about actually implementing the tools. We're already doing most of it. Adeline isn't a big crier I'm just trying to get longer stretches of sleep overnight. I've just fed, changed and swaddled with his method, put back down and white noise machine on (she wouldn't take the pacifier). Normally she soothes straight back to sleep after her feed but I can hear her fussing a bit but she should doze off on her own. She didn't object to her arms being swaddled in which I was surprised about. Anyhow, I still plan to feed every 2 hours if that's what she's waking for. Addy definitely has obvious hunger cues when she's waking so if your LO does too, then feed, don't try and calm.
but I second the question about the 6 hours of sleep...this book is definitely not going to give me that at all, unless his swaddling method is the holy grail, because I was essentially already doing everything he suggested.
Just up for our first milk fest - got a decent stretch. It's the next wake up that I wish would come later.
Same... I'm hoping she gives me another decent stretch after this one but girlfriend is still fussy. Had to let her fall asleep on my chest tonight - she was waking up every 5 min of being in the RNP. Ain't nobody got time for that.
Up. Nursing. A bit ago I ate a larabar and refilled water. Then nursed baby and baby got sleepy. So snuggled baby up to DH so I could brush my teeth in hopes baby would stay sleepy. Didn't work. So up nursing again.
I've taken to wearing my hearing aid at night, so we can keep Emily close by in the PNP while we sleep (not that we get much sleep anyway...she still has her days and nights mixed up).
Anyway, it's not Emily that's making the most noise right now. It's DH and his snoring. Oh God. I can't even sleep when the baby sleeps because it's so loud. Not sure how she's sleeping through it, but now I have actual context for just how deaf I really am, and if it weren't for Em I'd be a lot more grateful for it...
Re: Night owl thread- baby edition
oh and LO pooped in case you wanted the update
This is great news, as I want sleep too. I should probably sleep immediately.
The only bad thing is the sleeping is so light surely baby will wake should I move. But then again baby might wake anyway because baby isn't done with the night time/all early morning no sleep hazing,
I could wait until a deeper sleep cycle for baby, but that might not come.
Only problem is that I am super hungry. I want toast, an egg, and orange juice. Then I will of course need to allow time to brush teeth.
Is it worth trying? How can I make this happen without baby getting upset and waking up the whole house? I feel like I am in a choose your own adventure book.
I could just stay here. I might. But so hungry...
Update: I decided sleep wins. Maybe baby will stay asleep for an hour? Fingers crossed for 1 hour...
Missnc777 4 hours sounds amazing. I hope the wake up went well and didn't result in a cry fest. Fingers crossed.
I think I am just going to co sleep. I think those are my choices at the moment. Co-sleep or no sleep. And since I have a toddler who might be up in 20 mins or so no sleep isn't really a feasible plan.
DD: 05/14/16
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Baby # 1 used the RNP for night time for months. This baby doesn't like it (and not the halo bassinet either) but I keep trying, just in case I didn't get the memo and something has changed.
After an interesting first week alone with a toddler and newborn where baby won't always reliably nap very well in RNP or bassinet I added baby wearing to the mix. That way I can attend to my toddler and if baby is fussy/reflux baby can nap in their preferred location (on a person). Then both babies are happy.
but I second the question about the 6 hours of sleep...this book is definitely not going to give me that at all, unless his swaddling method is the holy grail, because I was essentially already doing everything he suggested.
Anyway, it's not Emily that's making the most noise right now. It's DH and his snoring. Oh God. I can't even sleep when the baby sleeps because it's so loud. Not sure how she's sleeping through it, but now I have actual context for just how deaf I really am, and if it weren't for Em I'd be a lot more grateful for it...