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ladygali · September 2014

Vinny424 said:
Friend on fb she posted some news link about pediatricians recommending IUDs for teens. Two people on there are now discussing vaccines and how there are microchips in them because Obama made it maditory.

A friend of mine just posted it, too. I'm about to hide her from my newsfeed because I don't think I can take much more of her conservativeness.

ladygali · September 2014

@Vinny424‌ those are some colorful penises you drew for us!

eireyes · September 2014

elyse4281 said:

@Vinny424‌ those are some colorful penises you drew for us!

I'm glad someone else has a gutter brain like mine :-)

katess84 · September 2014

I'm so excited! My LO is sleeping on me. He hasn't done this in months and I've missed the cuddling. he's such an anti-cuddler

thomas930 · September 2014

@ambarnett1 hope you feel better.

@RedDownsRevenge sorry you are forced to deal with everything.

@mamrotu73 Yay for finding your ring!!

ladygali · September 2014

@lia619 and @purespark‌ I'm right there with you. DS has had horrible sleep the past week or so but then the last two nights were back to "normal" ie going to sleep by 9 or 10 and only waking once. I'm seriously considering sleep training and I always said I wouldn't. We will see what the next couple weeks bring, I guess.

juniper75 · September 2014

@purespark. I said I wouldn't train either and then with both kids wound up with so little sleep it became inevitable. With LO it came to a head last week when she rolled out of my arms and almost fell on the floor in the middle of the night. If I hadn't woken up and caught her sleep sack as she was falling she would have landed head first. That was the last straw.

What kind of training do you want to do? Some of the most popular books are Healthy Habits Happy Child, No cry sleep solution and ofcourse Ferbers CIO book. We are doing CIO - I tried other methods with my first and only CIO worked for her. I went straight to CIO with LO last week. It is working well. If you are considering it I recommend the website Troublesome tots - its has a lot of condensed info on CIO

juniper75 · September 2014

The crying might not be so bad. It wasn't for us. Maybe its all about timing. I told myself she was crying in my arms all the time anyways so its not like what I was doing was without tears. We are on night 4 and she only really cried night 1 and then it was more telling me off and protesting than screaming. She got more upset when I went in and checked on her though so I only did that the first night. (I have a video monitor though so I could see her). She was asleep within 30 min. Night 2 was less than 5 min and she hasn't cried since.

Emily041285 · September 2014

LuckySquare said:
Even if my husband wasn't getting a vasectomy this Friday, this baby would have put me off wanting any more kids. Not kidding. Worst. Sleeper. Ever. Utter nightmare and it's so hard not to get mad.

This was exactly my thoughts last night and he isn't getting a vasectomy. It really is hard not getting mad. No help, just letting you know you aren't the only one with a bad sleeper!

juniper75 · September 2014

mamrotu73 said:

purespark said:

juniper75 said:

The crying might not be so bad. It wasn't for us. Maybe its all about timing. I told myself she was crying in my arms all the time anyways so its not like what I was doing was without tears. We are on night 4 and she only really cried night 1 and then it was more telling me off and protesting than screaming. She got more upset when I went in and checked on her though so I only did that the first night. (I have a video monitor though so I could see her). She was asleep within 30 min. Night 2 was less than 5 min and she hasn't cried since.

What a good point. Thank you for that.

That was exactly my thought when we started. He cried less when CIO than he did when I was holding/patting/shushing/rocking/bouncing/etc.

Same here. I am looking forward to trying naps in a couple of weeks. She still naps in my arms and fights them badly!!

juniper75 · September 2014

purespark said:
Maybe this is a dumb question, and addressed in the book(s), but what do you do to comfort your LO, if you do stepped soothing/Ferber Method? My LO doesn't give a crap about all the bum patting or shushing in the world if you don't also pick him up.

My LO is the same - that's why I had to abandon stepped soothing. My attempts to soothe just pissed her off.

juniper75 · September 2014

Ok I just checked my book and he says if you go in, you should only stay 1-2 minutes no longer. The point of going in is to reassure LO not to help them sleep or stop their crying. If LO has a lovey that has fallen out of the crib, you can replace it but only once per visit. He does mention as well that if LO does quiet down while you are in the room, the crying will likely start again when you leave.

edoliesmom · September 2014

So glad sleep is being discussed. I've been wanting to talk about something with y'all. I desperately need help, as do a lot of us evidently! I feel bad even complaining about it since she only wakes up once, but it's taking a mental toll on me.

Edolie is sooo so particular about how she has to be put to sleep, and it's gotten to the point where only I can put her down at night. My husband can do naps, but she seems to only be content with me putting her to sleep at night. It's such a long process, and I'm going to lose my mind. It takes about 1-1.5 hours from the time I start trying to put her to sleep to the time I successfully put her down and get her covered and settled in her sleeper. (Yes, still in a sleeper. Scared to transition her to her PNP. Ugh.) A lot of times I'll try to put her down, and her eyes pop back open.

I'm so jealous of those that can out their babies down awake and they fall asleep on their own. She has never done that before. And like @purespark she won't be comforted unless I pick her up. During the weekdays I feel like I get no adult/me time, especially when she doesn't take long naps. I also feel like I'm encouraging bad sleeping habits and that she's going to be a terrible sleep when she gets older. I tell myself, "it'll be okay. She won't be like this forever. She'll grow out of it." but then I hear about how some of y'alls toddlers don't sleep well, and I'm like, "What if it DOES last forever??"

ambarnett1 · September 2014

I'm so glad others are having similar sleep problems. I want everyone to have magical sleeping babies, but it's nice to know I'm not alone. Please, everyone if you do anything, have a nice strong drink for me! I desperately need it.

steph1977 · September 2014

@juniper75‌ Thank you for that. I thought you weren't supposed to leave until LO is soothed, which for my LO NEVER happens. I can commiserate with all of you with terrible sleepers. Mine has pretty much been this way since day 1 though, with months 3-5 just unbearable. Wonder if I'll ever sleep more than 3.5 hrs again.

juniper75 · September 2014

@edoliesmom. I don't think you have a bad sleeper, you just have a sleep association that you may have to work on breaking. You don't HAVE to break sleep associations your LO will eventually outgrow it, its just that you dont know how long that will take.

If its not working for both of you (you and LO) and its not temporary (teething, growth spurt...) then you probably need to do something about it. And no matter what method you choose it is prob going to piss Edolie off to some extent.

The good news is that you can usually break sleep associations fairly quickly.

snowbound · September 2014

My guy is a terrible sleeper and idgaf anymore. This is my life. He's fine. I'm fine. It'll pass. I'm just rollin with the punches these days.

RocksInTheWater · September 2014

Check out the sleep thread! You'll find lots of commiseration there.

juniper75 · September 2014

snowbound said:
My guy is a terrible sleeper and idgaf anymore. This is my life. He's fine. I'm fine. It'll pass. I'm just rollin with the punches these days.

That's how I felt until she almost fell. I was willing to tough it out because I felt it was too early to train when I'd probably have to do it again after teething or sleep regressions. Good thing babies are so damn cute! Even after the worst night that gummy smile makes my heart flutter.

edoliesmom · September 2014

@juniper75 So you're saying you think she might outgrow the sleep association? But like you said, it's not working for us. I don't want her to cry, and like I mentioned before, she can only be comforted if we pick her up. I don't know which one would be best for us... Probably will look into Ferber though.

juniper75 · September 2014

Oh and my toddler has started climbing out of her crib so we are going to have to transition her beds in the middle of sleep training LO. Good times. I told DH he is going to be responsible for sheep herding her since he has never once gotten up with LO.

RedDawnsRevenge · September 2014

Still fighting with the MIL and DH about this welfare business. And MIL mad at me for not having the girls vaccinated. And how am I supposed to do this with no money? I've been waiting since April for medi-cal approval, I'm still waiting.

I submitted all my paperwork to the nursing recruiters. Called them, but no answer. Maybe I came across as too desperate?

juniper75 · September 2014

edoliesmom said:
@juniper75 So you're saying you think she might outgrow the sleep association? But like you said, it's not working for us. I don't want her to cry, and like I mentioned before, she can only be comforted if we pick her up. I don't know which one would be best for us... Probably will look into Ferber though.

Sure she will at some point. Their sleep matures as they get older and ofcourse preferences change. One thing you can be sure of is that babies are going to change the game on you anytime you start to think you have them figured out...lol. But it doesn't sound like she's going to outgrow it soon and its making you nuts so that's where your problem lies.

Does she like a swing? I have seen a method where you can transition them to being put down (eventually) awake in a crib using a swing, if you want to avoid going to CIO. My LO doesn't like her swing anymore....

juniper75 · September 2014

Vinny424 said:
Guise, when walking at the part with LO I got hit on. I'm not gunna lie, it did put a little extra pep in my fat asses step.

Hit on WITH a baby in tow is extra points! Nice...

RedDawnsRevenge · September 2014

honeyzoo said:
I'm trying to decide if I'm being silly.

I share an apple photo stream with family and my best friends (about 15 people) and share a photo or video almost every day. I also post a few things on Facebook--but not nearly as frequently (every 2 weeks).

My FIL has started posting my photo stream photos to his Facebook, and also does not tag me. Last night, he posted L's 5 month picture before I could.

I'm annoyed. Silly?

It really bothers me when MIL does this too.

Bluebird2318 · September 2014

edoliesmom said:

WTF is Slenderman?? Young kids are sacrificing their friends in his name? Holy shit.
He's just this tall, slender freaky man thing dressed in all black, and if he comes near you, you die or something. He's supposedly been captured in photos and things, dating back to when photographs were just starting. Never heard of anyone sacrificing anyone in his name though??

@edoliesmom I was reading this link on Facebook yesterday about some guy who turned old photos into creepy GIFs and one of them included Slenderman! (Or at least my first thought when I watched the GIF was "Slenderman!")

The GIF (gotta watch for a few seconds):

juniper75 · September 2014

aronie82 said:
My LO is not soothed by my presence either. He also needs held. I tried stepped soothing once. Made it to 5 min and he was inconsolable for over an hour. He increases in intensity the longer he cries so CIO is just not an option for us.

I didn't think it would work with my LO either because she is so high needs and has reflux. I only tried out of desperation and was pleasantly suprised when it worked. I think she's just going along with it to prove me wrong!

I hope you find something that works for your LO. No sleep sucks.

edoliesmom · September 2014

@Bluebird2318 BUH! Creepy!!

edoliesmom · September 2014

Can babies get a non-center tooth first??

Emily041285 · September 2014

@edoliesmom‌ I think dd is.

edoliesmom · September 2014

Emily041285 said:
@edoliesmom‌ I think dd is.

I think mine is too... I just always assumed it had to be a center one. :-/

snowbound · September 2014

DS is doing good. He's just congested enough that his loud breathing constantly wakes himself up. Haha.Tanks for asking @MaiTaiBeth!

Teresa1896 · September 2014

@honeyzoo‌, I'd be annoyed too. My elderly neighbor shares some of my FB pics, only his page is public. It happens pretty infrequently. If he starts to do it more, I'll just block him from seeing them.

SoulTermination · September 2014

Slender Man
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slender_Man

michaelad3 · September 2014

Good news is LO has not had more bloody mucous in her stool today. Bad news is DH just texted to tell me that she is not eating well at all today

I'm hoping it's just because she has frozen milk today, and she will make up for it by nursing tonight. I'm hoping my supply can handle it as I've noticed a dip in output. Caring for babies is stressful!

deidremaria · September 2014

@honeyzoo‌ I'd be annoyed too. My family is fully aware of my feelings on D's pics so they know they'll have no access to them if they overstep. Photo sharing via photo stream is awesome!

RedDawnsRevenge · September 2014

Progress! DH called his old employer back and told him he'd take there FT position if they still have him. So they are trying to secure a contract right now. Hoping to hear something by the end of the week. This may mean a relocation to IL. And applying for yet another nursing license. There needs to be a national license. Apparently when mom told him she wouldn't lend him anymore money and he had to go to the welfare office it lit a small flame under him. I still feel he should go apply, because this company has no garuntee of a job. Also I didn't get the position I interviewed for. Poop.

RedDawnsRevenge · September 2014

LuckySquare said:

RedDawnsRevenge said:
Progress! DH called his old employer back and told him he'd take there FT position if they still have him. So they are trying to secure a contract right now. Hoping to hear something by the end of the week. This may mean a relocation to IL. And applying for yet another nursing license. There needs to be a national license. Apparently when mom told him she wouldn't lend him anymore money and he had to go to the welfare office it lit a small flame under him. I still feel he should go apply, because this company has no garuntee of a job. Also I didn't get the position I interviewed for. Poop.
So it wasn't you separately seeking a position after going to be a SAHM, being overwhelmed and overtaxed, him turning down work because his friend wasn't offered a job or he was too good to work a burger joint -- it was being denied a free ride by his MOTHER. Wow.

Have you told him he's almost lost his family due to this idiocy?

Not yet. I'm keeping those thoughts on the back burner.

ambarnett1 · September 2014

@reddawnsrevenge can I ask why you are keeping those thoughts from him? I feel like you should be able to discuss how you feel with your H.

Bluebird2318 · September 2014

Vinny424 said:

Guise, when walking at the part with LO I got hit on. I'm not gunna lie, it did put a little extra pep in my fat asses step.

I got hit on at the grocery check-out when DD was a little baby (had her with me at the time). My response was more like:

I'm a cold bitch.

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