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lrobi13 · May 2014

So even though last week's UO is still going strong let us start with some fresh UO today....

lrobi13 · May 2014

So I am coming out with a bang.

I don't feel bad with executions go wrong. Their victims didn't have that luxury so why should they?

youngin12 · May 2014

lrobi13 said:

So I am coming out with a bang.
I don't feel bad with executions go wrong. Their victims didn't have that luxury so why should they?

Truth. No remorse that the execution was "botched".

I'll go further and say I wholeheartedly believe in the death penalty and wish it was used much more often.

ashie0610 · May 2014

Oh boy, starting the UO off with capital punishment! And here I was about to come in here with a grammar-related UO.

youngin12 · May 2014

@purplehippo19- Gross! I hate cheesecake, too!

MrsSinner402 · May 2014

PurpleHippo19 said:
I hate cheesecake.

Sorry, didn't have anything juicier.

:-O

SusieBW · May 2014

Wow. An eye for an eye, huh? You guys are tough. Personally, I don't think it's okay to murder anyone, I don't care who they are. And I find it sort of abhorrent for a government to be the one doing it.

MrMrsandBaby · May 2014

I really really really believe a 4 day work week would make everyone more productive. At least for the next 20 years or so until we all become so used to it we can cram our work into three days!

Saragoeswest · May 2014

I think botched executions are inhumane. Regardless of their guilt, if they're going to die it should be humanely.

Jennifer18131 · May 2014

This is going to get interesting!

Bossman scoffed at the idea of me going on a week-long beach vacation with my family this year with maternity leave coming up at the end of the year. I have worked my ass off for him and saved him SO MANY TIMES over the last 10 years, I think I deserve at the very least that vacation on top of my proposed 10 weeks paid maternity leave.

MrsSinner402 · May 2014

Saragoeswest said:
I think botched executions are inhumane. Regardless of their guilt, if they're going to die it should be humanely.

Oh bless you, dear. You have a much kinder heart than I do. I feel so strongly toward capital punishment for people that take someone else's life willingly. In certain circumstances I'd like to put them through the exact situation they put their victims through. But of course we all know that'd never happen. I just can't bring myself to feel mercy for someone that commits such a horrible crime and hope that they get to go to sleep peacefully after what they've done. Perhaps this is my UO. Flame away, but it's just my opinion.

windwithfingers · May 2014

I'm...going to stay out of UO this week. Yikes.

ADH0906 · May 2014

windwithfingers said:
I'm...going to stay out of UO this week. Yikes.

No shit.

AmandaJean12 · May 2014

The thing that holds me back on capital punishment is that I know we get some wrong. Those few make me rethink the whole system.

But I definitely don't get sentimental over the ones who deserve it.

MrsSinner402 · May 2014

ADH0906 said:

windwithfingers said:
I'm...going to stay out of UO this week. Yikes.
No shit.

I never really thought capital punishment was that hot of a debate, personally. You either believe in it or not, to each their own. I definitely won't be judge-y if someone disagrees or feels differently. And I won't question why anyone feels the way they do. Like I said, maybe some just have a much kinder heart than I do.

PBJellyTime · May 2014

I LOVE Cheesecake! And melons, and I do agree with Capital Punishment - even the botched ones. I heard about the guy who got the first of 3 lethal injections, but had a heart attack and died after the first injection and thought - well, saved some money on the rest of those shots! LOL, maybe I'm a horrible person, but after working at a sex offender facility for 3 years, I have seen TOO many bad people - and watched them go free and ruin lives again.

My UO is I don't think young children should be brought to see every 3D movie. I think every once in a while is okay, but not all the time. ESPECIALLY youngans with ADD & ADHD. Based on my experiences, I believe 3D movies are waaaay to overstimulating and children have a hard time processing all of it.

youngin12 · May 2014

MrsSinner402 said:

I think botched executions are inhumane. Regardless of their guilt, if they're going to die it should be humanely.
Oh bless you, dear. You have a much kinder heart than I do. I feel so strongly toward capital punishment for people that take someone else's life willingly. In certain circumstances I'd like to put them through the exact situation they put their victims through. But of course we all know that'd never happen. I just can't bring myself to feel mercy for someone that commits such a horrible crime and hope that they get to go to sleep peacefully after what they've done. Perhaps this is my UO. Flame away, but it's just my opinion.

A much, much kinder heart than me as well. Although I've always agreed with capital punishment and was raised in a family that agreed with it, I never felt so strongly until DH shared the story of his mothers murder with me (even though we knew each other for 10 years before dating, I never knew the story). Long story short, at the age of 6, he WATCHED his mother get murdered by her boyfriend. He then had to testify though TWO trials at the ages of 7 and 9. No one, child or adult, should have to deal with what he has dealt with. No one should lose a family member or friend to MURDER! The MURDERER is still sitting in prison and has been for over 20 years. My tax dollars are paying for him to stay alive when he should be dead. He was eligible for parole 4 years ago. DH had to, once again, relive the horror of that day to try to have this guy stay in prison. Not to mention come face to face with him. Luckily, he was not granted parole, however, DH will have to go through it again in 2 years and continue to go through it as long as the MURDERER is eligible to get back onto the streets and have the chance at living a normal life unlike DH's mother who never saw her child grow up, get married, or see her grandchildren. He has been able to do all of those things and will, unfortunately, continue to be able to do those things.

You may think I'm a horrible person but if you willingly take the life of someone else, you deserve to have your life taken.

Littledeer84 · May 2014

I can't get behind government sanctioned executions. Especially when it is a fact that the judicial system has failed people and led to the convictions of many innocent.

pushgal84 · May 2014

FamousEa said:

I friggin hate watermelon. I hate all melons for that matter I don't think they taste good at all

I'm not normally a huge melon fan, but the last couple days I've had late night cravings for watermelon juice! I don't own a juicer and the only place I can get it is at a Fruiteria that closes after lunch. Hoping I can go back to not liking melon soon.

lrobi13 · May 2014

@youngin12: Big hugs to you and your DH.

Heartwood0519 · May 2014

I think that society as a whole is way too damn sensitive about EVERYTHING. I do agree that there definitely are things that should not be tolerated, but come on... A local news station reported this week that some kids got cited for disorderly conduct for playing with Nerf guns. As in they were having a Nerf gun battle between themselves and "a number of people were frightened by the plastic Nerf guns". Seriously? It seems to me that people make mountains out of molehills where they don't need to be.

I think I would definitely get flamed for my other opinions on this subject, so I'll just leave it at that.

ashie0610 · May 2014

MrMrsandBaby said:

I really really really believe a 4 day work week would make everyone more productive. At least for the next 20 years or so until we all become so used to it we can cram our work into three days!

I work a full-time 4 day work week and it has changed my life. I am absolutely, without question, more productive now than I was at 5 days a week.

LightBright515 · May 2014

Murderers have a family too. People forget that part.

I just don't think people's lives should be handled by those who seemingly aren't capable of providing fair trials and verdicts. There needs to be more consistency...

I wonder how you feel about those executed and it turned out it wasn't them after all...or the ones who just wasted umpteen years of their lives in prison for nothing.

MrsSinner402 · May 2014

@youngin12‌ how horrible for you and DH and his family. Big hugs.

MrsSinner402 · May 2014

LightBright515 said:
Murderers have a family too. People forget that part.

I just don't think people's lives should be handled by those who seemingly aren't capable of providing fair trials and verdicts. There needs to be more consistency...

I wonder how you feel about those executed and it turned out it wasn't them after all...or the ones who just wasted umpteen years of their lives in prison for nothing.

Uhh.. of course there's always the exception. If someone is innocent and wrongly tried, of COURSE I'm not all about them dying. Sheesh.

lrobi13 · May 2014

LightBright515 said:

Murderers have a family too. People forget that part. I just don't think people's lives should be handled by those who seemingly aren't capable of providing fair trials and verdicts. There needs to be more consistency... I wonder how you feel about those executed and it turned out it wasn't them after all...or the ones who just wasted umpteen years of their lives in prison for nothing.

I don't forget it. But in most capital punishment cases that have been done recently there is way more evidence than in the past and there are multiple appeals that increase the number of eyes that review the case. With everyone having video cameras and dna processing becoming more and more reliable having the wrong person is likely to decrease.

It does suck for the innocent but sadly they were in the wrong place at the wrong time and possible running with the wrong crowd.

This is a very hard topic due to all the variables but if you know without a doubt someone did unspeakable acts against someone else it is hard to think that they should be allowed to be free because they have families too.

jesslinnn · May 2014

LightBright515 said:

Murderers have a family too. People forget that part.

I don't forget that part, I just don't see how it makes ANY difference.

LightBright515 · May 2014

Uhhh it makes a difference to their family and their kids!

Littledeer84 · May 2014

lrobi13 said:

LightBright515 said:

Murderers have a family too. People forget that part. I just don't think people's lives should be handled by those who seemingly aren't capable of providing fair trials and verdicts. There needs to be more consistency... I wonder how you feel about those executed and it turned out it wasn't them after all...or the ones who just wasted umpteen years of their lives in prison for nothing.

I don't forget it. But in most capital punishment cases that have been done recently there is way more evidence than in the past and there are multiple appeals that increase the number of eyes that review the case. With everyone having video cameras and dna processing becoming more and more reliable having the wrong person is likely to decrease.
It does suck for the innocent but sadly they were in the wrong place at the wrong time and possible running with the wrong crowd.
This is a very hard topic due to all the variables but if you know without a doubt someone did unspeakable acts against someone else it is hard to think that they should be allowed to be free because they have families too.

So they should get put to death for the bolded?

duckr · May 2014

MY UO is that I don't like talking politics or social issues on TB

LightBright515 · May 2014

Nicb13 said:

LightBright515 said:

Uhhh it makes a difference to their family and their kids!

Tough shit, for real. I feel WAYYYYY worse for the victims families and kids.

Their children are victims too. One victim just trumps another?

Littledeer84 · May 2014

Nicb13 said:

LightBright515 said:

Murderers have a family too. People forget that part. I just don't think people's lives should be handled by those who seemingly aren't capable of providing fair trials and verdicts. There needs to be more consistency... I wonder how you feel about those executed and it turned out it wasn't them after all...or the ones who just wasted umpteen years of their lives in prison for nothing.

Nope, I don't forget that part but it doesn't take anything away from the heinous crime they have committed.
Yes, I feel AWFUL for those that are wrongly convicted and our justice system is far from perfect but we have to put some faith into it working correctly most of the time. What else would we do with criminals?
How often are people actually executed and then found out later to be innocent? Just curious if you have a number on that. I realize a lot of innocent folks are probably sitting in jails and prisons but I'm not sure about innocent people being executed.

Here is one I can think of: https://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/27/us/citing-new-evidence-urging-a-posthumous-pardon-in-1992-case.html?_r=1&

lrobi13 · May 2014

Littledeer84 said:

lrobi13 said:

LightBright515 said:

Murderers have a family too. People forget that part. I just don't think people's lives should be handled by those who seemingly aren't capable of providing fair trials and verdicts. There needs to be more consistency... I wonder how you feel about those executed and it turned out it wasn't them after all...or the ones who just wasted umpteen years of their lives in prison for nothing.

I don't forget it. But in most capital punishment cases that have been done recently there is way more evidence than in the past and there are multiple appeals that increase the number of eyes that review the case. With everyone having video cameras and dna processing becoming more and more reliable having the wrong person is likely to decrease.
It does suck for the innocent but sadly they were in the wrong place at the wrong time and possible running with the wrong crowd.
This is a very hard topic due to all the variables but if you know without a doubt someone did unspeakable acts against someone else it is hard to think that they should be allowed to be free because they have families too.

So they should get put to death for the bolded?

Nope, I mentioned above I am happy that capital cases are reviewed multiple times and that actual facts and proof are being used to determine those cases. I really don't want innocent people to die. I wish nobody died but that is not the world we live in. I really wish it was all about puking rainbows.

I live in an area that people are killed everyday so maybe I am desensitized. But it would be nice to feel safe no matter where you went or what time of day you went there. And that murder wasn't something done so often and over such dumb reasons (card game or drug deal gone wrong). Until then you better believe that I want the death penalty.

I promise next week my UO will be less controversial

TheOtherJacobsons · May 2014

I have an UO that I have been dreading posting and I am sure that I will get some flack for it. I know that it will offend some women on here, women that I respect and actually like. I am sorry in advance because I am not judging you, I just really don't understand it and I don't think I ever will. With that being said, my UO is that I don't understand extended BFing. Why not pump if you want to continue to provide the nutrients from your milk? It is not because I feel that BFing is in any way a sexual thing, but I do find the idea of BFing a walking talking human weird. I think it is a strange behavior and it creeps me out. I am not even sure why it does, but it does. I have probably felt this way my whole life. My mom didn't even have to wean me. I was something like 1 and I refused the breast. I decided that I was done and that was the end of that.

Maybe I'll get lucky and the topic of capital punishment will be more interesting than this.

MrsSinner402 · May 2014

Littledeer84 said:

lrobi13 said:

LightBright515 said:

Murderers have a family too. People forget that part.

I just don't think people's lives should be handled by those who seemingly aren't capable of providing fair trials and verdicts. There needs to be more consistency...

I wonder how you feel about those executed and it turned out it wasn't them after all...or the ones who just wasted umpteen years of their lives in prison for nothing.

I don't forget it. But in most capital punishment cases that have been done recently there is way more evidence than in the past and there are multiple appeals that increase the number of eyes that review the case. With everyone having video cameras and dna processing becoming more and more reliable having the wrong person is likely to decrease.
It does suck for the innocent but sadly they were in the wrong place at the wrong time and possible running with the wrong crowd.
This is a very hard topic due to all the variables but if you know without a doubt someone did unspeakable acts against someone else it is hard to think that they should be allowed to be free because they have families too.

So they should get put to death for the bolded?

Well look at you, jumping to conclusions! Of course that's not what she meant. I said I wasn't going to be judge-y in this thread, but all these people claiming the pro-cap punishment people think innocents should die too are definitely making me pull my judge-y pants out of the drawer. I've got one leg in right now.

JessAnnJ · May 2014

I am for capital punishment. I don't care about their children having to deal with it. I imagine that dealing with a parent that committed an heinous crime is the most difficult part.

However, I did hear at one point, and I am not sure if it's true anymore that it's actually more costly to execute someone than put them in prison for life.

trisharenee0316 · May 2014

Not to be a bitch about it, but if you are pro-capital punishment right now, then whether you want to admit it or not, you have to have some level of acceptance of the fact that innocent people are given the death penalty and are executed. There's just no good way to make sure that 100% of the people put to death are actually guilty. The justice system tries in many respects, but since the system is run by people and their biases and mistakes and whatever else, there will be inevitable errors.

And I say this as someone who is somewhat pro-capital punishment.

Littledeer84 · May 2014

MrsSinner402 said:

lrobi13 said:

LightBright515 said:

Murderers have a family too. People forget that part. I just don't think people's lives should be handled by those who seemingly aren't capable of providing fair trials and verdicts. There needs to be more consistency... I wonder how you feel about those executed and it turned out it wasn't them after all...or the ones who just wasted umpteen years of their lives in prison for nothing.

I don't forget it. But in most capital punishment cases that have been done recently there is way more evidence than in the past and there are multiple appeals that increase the number of eyes that review the case. With everyone having video cameras and dna processing becoming more and more reliable having the wrong person is likely to decrease.
It does suck for the innocent but sadly they were in the wrong place at the wrong time and possible running with the wrong crowd.
This is a very hard topic due to all the variables but if you know without a doubt someone did unspeakable acts against someone else it is hard to think that they should be allowed to be free because they have families too.

So they should get put to death for the bolded?
Well look at you, jumping to conclusions! Of course that's not what she meant. I said I wasn't going to be judge-y in this thread, but all these people claiming the pro-cap punishment people think innocents should die too are definitely making me pull my judge-y pants out of the drawer. I've got one leg in right now.

Well I know arguing here isnt going to get us anywhere. But I wasnt jumping to conslusions...she said that she thought it was unlikely for innocent people to be put to death, but that it also would stink for the innocents but that is what they get for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Backing out now, we are not going to change each others minds.

MrsSinner402 · May 2014

trisharenee0316 said:
Not to be a bitch about it, but if you are pro-capital punishment right now, then whether you want to admit it or not, you have to have some level of acceptance of the fact that innocent people are given the death penalty and are executed. There's just no good way to make sure that 100% of the people put to death are actually guilty. The justice system tries in many respects, but since the system is run by people and their biases and mistakes and whatever else, there will be inevitable errors.

And I say this as someone who is somewhat pro-capital punishment.

There is a gray area here, just as there are gray areas in the Democrat vs. Republican debate. I'm all for it for people that did the crime, but unfortunately there's not much we can do about those wrongly convicted. And of course I'm not all for it for them. It's an unfortunate series of events for that person and I know when I hear about someone being found innocent after being put to death you can bet your ass I feel terrible. So I guess I'm right there with you with the pro-cap most of the time.

jesslinnn · May 2014

LightBright515 said:

LightBright515 said:

Uhhh it makes a difference to their family and their kids!

Tough shit, for real. I feel WAYYYYY worse for the victims families and kids.
Their children are victims too. One victim just trumps another?

Completely different circumstances. These murderers put themselves in the position they're in. They don't get a pass just because their family would be sad. Boo fucking hoo. I'd be more upset to find out my father raped/killed someone in such a heinous way that he was up for the death penalty!!

LightBright515 · May 2014

*bows out gracefully*

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