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August 2019 FET

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I decided to create an August FET message since I haven't seen one yet. I was supposed to do my FET in July, but my PGS results came back with no normals so we had to push it off until we could consult with the dr.

EGG Retrieval Results
18 follicles on U/S: 24 Eggs, 21 Mature, 20 Fertilized, 15 day 3, 7 day 6 blasts.
of the 7 blasts PGS tested - 4 abnormal girls, 2 abnormal boys, 1 indeterminate girl

After talking to the dr. today, he is fine with transferring the indeterminate girl and one of the abnormal boys (the one with abnormalities not incompatible with life).

It's a long shot, but we are leaving it up to God and praying he knows best. We will be speaking (per dr. recommendation) to a genetic counselor in the next week or so and then will wait for my next cycle to begin which should make for August FET. We would prefer to do this, then to do another IVF round at this time.

My history is in my signature! Good luck to anyone in August!! 
Me: 43yo, DH: 46yo
3 Daughters (singleton @27yo, ID Twins @34yo)
Protein S Deficiency (Blood Clotting Disorder) - reason for 2 of my M/C's
4 MC's:  Blighted Ovum-D&C @ 9wks;  Natural MC @ 7wks; Blighted Ovum-D&C @ 9wks; MC genetically normal boy-D&C @ 9wks
Tubes were tied after my Twins. Remarried and want to give my DH a baby!
IVF#1 June 2019 - ER 6/15/19, 24R, 21M, 20F, 7 6DBlasts Frozen for PGS Testing,
RESULTS of PGS 4 abnormal girls,  2 abnormal boys, 1 indeterminate girl
FET#1 August 23, 2019 (transferring 1 indeterminate girl & 1 abnormal boy)
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  • Hi @ladyp0tter,
    I will also have an FET in August. This is our 5th try and our last embryo. We didn't do PGS testing (I wish we would have). I just did an ERA (mock transfer) 2 weeks ago and I'm still waiting on the results from that. 
    Hoping for lots of positives in August!! 

    Me: 34  DH: 36

    Married: 6 years

    TTC: 6 years

    Diagnosis: Male Factor

    4 Failed I.U.I's with Clomid in 2017 

    Retreival #1: 12/17= 9 eggs, 6 fertilized, 2 frozen 5dp

    Fresh Transfer #1: 12/17- BFN

    FET #1: 3/18- CP   Beta #1= 30 & Beta #2= 26

    Retreival #2: 6/18= 16 eggs, 10 fertilized, 5 frozen 6dp

    FET #2: 7/18 - M/C at 9 weeks    Beta #1= 229 & Beta #2= 444

    FET #3: scheduled for 12/7/18  M/C at 7 weeks  :'(  Beta #1 = 50, Beta # 2 = 115, Beta #3 = 301

    FET #4:  scheduled for 8/16/19

    ladyp0tter
  • Hi Everyone!  Thought I would join in.  I have been active on the boards before through TTC and they have been a huge support to me. I have done 3 previous IVF retrievals and we were able to bank 5 PGS normal embryos.

    We had our RE consult and labs drawn last week.  Everything looks ok so far.  I have my saline ultrasound tomorrow.  Provided that is good we are looking at a FET in late August or early September depending on when AF shows up.  We will be transferring a single PGS normal embryo       

    @ladyp0tter I’m so sorry your PGS testing came back as it did I’m sure that was one heck of a blow.  I had one of my embryos come back as indeterminate.  We actually thawed, biopsied and retested and it came back normal.  So it is possible.  I did quite a bit of reading up on PGS testing.  There are all sorts of variation in “abnormal” embryos going through our results made my head spin.  We had some mosaic abnormalities which meant the embryo has both good and abnormal cells, which in some cases can mean it could end up being a healthy baby.  My take away was that depending on the type of mutations some embryos were a “maybe” rather than a true abnormal.  I hope your appointment goes well with the genetic councilor I know for me after I had some time to digest the information it made us feel more secure in our decisions of how to move forward.  

    @kimberlyshae fingers crossed that this transfer is your lucky one!


    Me:36 DW:31  
    TTC History in Spoiler ***Trigger Warning*** Losses/Child Mentioned 
    Dx: My wife has no sperm  :D and apparently my embryos aren't as good as they look
    2016

     * April IUI#1 - BFN
     * June IUI#2 - BFN
     * July IUI#3 - CP  :'(
     * Sept IVF#1 - 4 Retrieved & Mature, 4 Blasts.  Fresh Transfer 1  - CP  :'(
     * November FET #1 - Transferred 1 Blast - CP  :'(
    2017 Switched REs - Recurrent loss testing for me - all normal, remaining 2 frosties sent for PGS - both abnormal
     * April/May IVF#2:  9 retrieved, 8 mature, 7 fertilized, 7 blasts!  Sent for PGS = 2 Normals in the bank! (1 remaining)
     * November IVF #3 12R, 8M, 6F, 4 blasts! - All 4 PGS normal.
     * November FET# 2 (Transfer a PGS normal from IVF#2) - BFP!!!
    2018 DD born 8/20/18
    2019 5PGS frosties planning for a FET in August

    ladyp0tterwabash15
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  • @ladyp0tter, thank you for your post with the indeterminate gender. I had no idea I could find out the gender of my indeterminate until I saw that.  I'm not sure why my nurse didn't offer that and I had to ask her.  Hopeful for your transfer!!
    Me: 34 DH: 39
    TTC #1 since 3/2017
    Dx: MFI
    DH varicocele repair 4/2018
    ER #1: 2/20/19; 7R/7M/7F/1D5B/1D6B (participated in a study so lower med protocol)
    2/25/19: ET #1 BFN
    4/24/19: FET #1 BFN
    ER #2: 6/9/19; 10R/8M/6F/3D5B/3D6B
    2 PGS 'NORMAL' GIRLS, 1 'indeterminate' GIRL
    7/30/19 FET #2 (Transfer #3): BFP??! EDD 4/16/20
    ladyp0tter
  • @mrsjones91716 - so glad you got your girls!! Now you know you have 1 more option!! :smiley: I didn't think they could tell anything about it, but obviously, I was wrong. When I got my report, it showed the sex! I was honestly hoping for a boy, but at this point, will be thrilled if anything works! Looks like your FET is soon!! So happy for you! Looks like I will have to wait until likely early September based on how long my AF is taking to show up for THIS cycle (since I have to wait until NEXT cycle).
    Me: 43yo, DH: 46yo
    3 Daughters (singleton @27yo, ID Twins @34yo)
    Protein S Deficiency (Blood Clotting Disorder) - reason for 2 of my M/C's
    4 MC's:  Blighted Ovum-D&C @ 9wks;  Natural MC @ 7wks; Blighted Ovum-D&C @ 9wks; MC genetically normal boy-D&C @ 9wks
    Tubes were tied after my Twins. Remarried and want to give my DH a baby!
    IVF#1 June 2019 - ER 6/15/19, 24R, 21M, 20F, 7 6DBlasts Frozen for PGS Testing,
    RESULTS of PGS 4 abnormal girls,  2 abnormal boys, 1 indeterminate girl
    FET#1 August 23, 2019 (transferring 1 indeterminate girl & 1 abnormal boy)
  • mrsjones91716mrsjones91716
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    @ladyp0tter, thank you, that's exactly how I felt! 1 more option!  My doctor doesn't recommend retesting due to stress it puts on embryo so if it got to that point he would want to just transfer.  BUT a transfer is $4,000 and retesting is free within the year so if we get there we'll have to see what is best. That is nice you got a report I have had to ask my nurse for any and all details beyond '2 normal girls'.  I hope you get your boy!  I have read a lot about pgs abnormals acutally self-correcting in the womb or that the results could just be from placenta and not embryo, I don't know, it's a lot to digest and I don't really understand it all.  Hopefully the genetic counselor will give you some helpful information. I hope your period shows soon!
    Me: 34 DH: 39
    TTC #1 since 3/2017
    Dx: MFI
    DH varicocele repair 4/2018
    ER #1: 2/20/19; 7R/7M/7F/1D5B/1D6B (participated in a study so lower med protocol)
    2/25/19: ET #1 BFN
    4/24/19: FET #1 BFN
    ER #2: 6/9/19; 10R/8M/6F/3D5B/3D6B
    2 PGS 'NORMAL' GIRLS, 1 'indeterminate' GIRL
    7/30/19 FET #2 (Transfer #3): BFP??! EDD 4/16/20
    ladyp0tter
  • lrynwnablrynwnab
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    I would like to join this group as I'm hoping to transfer in August. I had a saline u/s right before the 4th and it was normal, but my thyroid was high. I am hoping it will come down enough by the end of this month to be able to start transfer protocol when AF comes. 
    *TW*/*child mentioned*
    I last transferred (frozen) in March 2017 and it was BFP. Our son is 19 mo and we are trying again for the first time since then. Looking at my chart it said it took 28 days after AF to get my lining thick enough to transfer. That's kind of mind-blowing as I don't remember the timing of it all. 
    We have 8 embryos (DE) and we did not have them tested. We don't know the sexes. 
    ladyp0tter2MomsHoping
  • Looks like I'll be having my first FET in early August - just started my estrogen pills yesterday. I did a fresh transfer in March, however it failed :(. I have 5 frozen babies, didn't do the PGS testing so a little worried, but hoping this first FET will work!!
    lrynwnabladyp0tter2MomsHoping
  • pathomerpathomer
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    Hey ladies! Coming over from the June & July iVF thread! Hey there @ladyp0tter
    So a little about me IVF cycle 1
    Started stims 6/23 was on Menopur, Follistim/Gonal F and Ganirellix.
    ER was 7/5 retrieved 24eggs, 8 embryos were biopsied and frozen on Day 6. PGS results show 4/8 normal embryos 3 girls 1 boy! Started BCP on 7/19 starting Lupron on 7/25, then Estrace, patches, suppositories and progesterone in oil sometime after. Transfer is scheduled for 8/26! 
    ladyp0tter
  • lrynwnablrynwnab
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    @pathomer that's great that you have a date. the countdown is on!
    @Knottie1464178146 FET can very often work! Exciting that you started estrogen pills. When is your first lining check?
    AFM, AF came this morning out of nowhere. I think that was like a 24-day cycle. The synthroid must be messing with me. I start estrace tomorrow and have my first lining check on the 5th. They'll check my thyroid then too and if it's normal I'll keep going; if not I'll have to wait a month. 

  • Hello all, I'm posting here but I think my transfer will be in early September sometime. I had my consult on Friday and am waiting to hear back on my bloodwork. They did the thyroid testing which I am a bit concerned about and then the normal infectious disease panel which I'm not worried about. Hoping the results come back clear, I've started the BC at this point.

    **TR**
    This will be our second FET. I used these boards through our IVF cycle (no fresh transfer, mild OHSS) and initial FET in early 2017 which resulted in our fraternal twins. Everyone was helpful and gracious. We are only transferring one embryo this time. I will say that since our embryos are untested that I'm a bit nervous. Everything worked so perfectly last time. Our RE made us feel more confident though since he said our embryos were good quality.

    @Irynwnab I think we must have had our initial IVF cycle during the same time frame. I'm hoping your levels come back good so that you stay on track this cycle.

    @pathomer So exciting to get that calendar and have a semi hard date. Hoping that this is your bfp cycle.

    @2MomsHoping I was vacillating between excitement and hope and questioning my sanity at the same time. But during our appointment Friday I knew that trying again was the right path for us.


    Sept & Nov 2016 IUI's Neg
    Feb IVF cycle 12 ret, 8 fert, 5 frozen
    Late March FET with 2 untested embryos
    1st beta 338
    Nov 2017 boy/girl twins
    2nd FET Aug/Sept
    wabash15lrynwnabladyp0tter
  • lrynwnablrynwnab
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    @stella_700 thanks! Did you transfer 1 or 2 last time? The nurse said something about deciding how many to put in and I thought, "um, one please." We transferred 1 last time.
  • @pathomer 4 normal embryos is a great result and exciting to get your transfer date J FX for you!

    @lynwnab I hope the synthroid has had enough time to get it in the right range for you.  I hope the early period is a sign that it is working and everything can go on as planned.

    @stella_700 a pleasure seeing you on the “bump” side of the interwebs J It’s a wonderful thing when the brain makes the switch to being sure.  Don’t be nervous about the one embryo thing especially if you doctor isn’t nervous about it.  In some patient groups PGS testing doesn’t even improve transfer outcomes.  If you have 3 frosties to work with it sounds like you have some good chances there even if it takes a little longer to go one-by-one.     

    Me:36 DW:31  
    TTC History in Spoiler ***Trigger Warning*** Losses/Child Mentioned 
    Dx: My wife has no sperm  :D and apparently my embryos aren't as good as they look
    2016

     * April IUI#1 - BFN
     * June IUI#2 - BFN
     * July IUI#3 - CP  :'(
     * Sept IVF#1 - 4 Retrieved & Mature, 4 Blasts.  Fresh Transfer 1  - CP  :'(
     * November FET #1 - Transferred 1 Blast - CP  :'(
    2017 Switched REs - Recurrent loss testing for me - all normal, remaining 2 frosties sent for PGS - both abnormal
     * April/May IVF#2:  9 retrieved, 8 mature, 7 fertilized, 7 blasts!  Sent for PGS = 2 Normals in the bank! (1 remaining)
     * November IVF #3 12R, 8M, 6F, 4 blasts! - All 4 PGS normal.
     * November FET# 2 (Transfer a PGS normal from IVF#2) - BFP!!!
    2018 DD born 8/20/18
    2019 5PGS frosties planning for a FET in August

    lrynwnab
  • meggiehibsmeggiehibs
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    Hi ladies!!! I am beyond excited to be joining you all!!

    I am 28 and have been diagnosed with DOR, my AMH is .57. My husband has low count at 1 million per ml at the age of 25. Apparently, infertility doesn't discriminate against age!! We had a crazy ride with our IVF but thankfully we ended up with one PGS normal 5 day blast, a girl I might add. She is waiting on ice for us! Transfer is scheduled for Aug 20th!! 

    @LadyPotter Thank you for starting this thread!!! You're right, God truly does know best and I will be sending you lots of prayers. I am excited to see what the genetic counselor says!

    @kimberlyshae Ugh i'm sorry you didn't do the PGS testing and wish you would have. Hopefully this last frosty is a healthy baby just waiting for you! I also did a mock 2 weeks ago, excited to get those results back!

    @2MomsHoping yay yay for 5 normies!!!! so excited for you and glad you'll be in this month with us!

    @lrynwnab Hoping your thyroid looks good! Yay for how your first round went, hopefully this one has the same results! I think it's kind of exciting not knowing the genders! How many will you be transferring if you get the all clear?? I hope your lining check goes well!

    @Knottie1464178146 Yay yay do you have a date for your transfer?? sorry your freshy didn't stick, I have heard that frozen transfers have a better chance at sticking so prayers for you this cycle!!

    @pathomer Yay 4 normies is amazing!!! Do you plan to transfer just one on the 26th? How exciting!!

    @stella_700 OMG twins how fun and probably exhausting, but amazing!! Good idea only doing one this time, two sets of twins would be A LOT!! I hope your thyroid comes back okay. When will you get those results?
    lrynwnabladyp0tter
  • @meggiehibs super exciting to have your transfer scheduled!  August 20th has been a super lucky day in my book I hope it’s a lucky one for you too!  
    Me:36 DW:31  
    TTC History in Spoiler ***Trigger Warning*** Losses/Child Mentioned 
    Dx: My wife has no sperm  :D and apparently my embryos aren't as good as they look
    2016

     * April IUI#1 - BFN
     * June IUI#2 - BFN
     * July IUI#3 - CP  :'(
     * Sept IVF#1 - 4 Retrieved & Mature, 4 Blasts.  Fresh Transfer 1  - CP  :'(
     * November FET #1 - Transferred 1 Blast - CP  :'(
    2017 Switched REs - Recurrent loss testing for me - all normal, remaining 2 frosties sent for PGS - both abnormal
     * April/May IVF#2:  9 retrieved, 8 mature, 7 fertilized, 7 blasts!  Sent for PGS = 2 Normals in the bank! (1 remaining)
     * November IVF #3 12R, 8M, 6F, 4 blasts! - All 4 PGS normal.
     * November FET# 2 (Transfer a PGS normal from IVF#2) - BFP!!!
    2018 DD born 8/20/18
    2019 5PGS frosties planning for a FET in August

  • Hi everyone! I’m in the July FET board but received word my transfer will be next Friday August 2nd!! Anyone else doing a transfer that day?? Looking forward to getting to know you all and wish you a successful cycle! 
    ladyp0ttermelisbru
  • Hi friends,
    Im 40yrs old and going to do my fet in August for my second one. I have 7 embryos frozen 6 yrs ago so im going to use those embryos now. 2 of them are grade BB and the remaining are grade BC. but we didnt do pgs at that time.
    we dont have any genetic issues also. I have a girl from the previous embryos.
    I did the fresh cycle now but I got only 2 eggs for retrieval and it didnt form as an embryo and the Dr said its because of egg quality and so that cycle in june got failed. my husbands sperm is good.
    I live in chicago and going to FCI with Dr.Laurence Jacobs. I dont have insurance and all the money from our pocket.
    we thought of doing PGS on the 7 embryos atleast we will know the gender. but Im scared to do pgs now because of my ivf failure and thawing refreezing and all the process sometimes I may lose the embryo. and I dont have money to do more ivf with my slim chances. but Dr is saying with pgs the results will be good and 95% will
    survive. other than that my hormones are good and my AMH is little low 1.23 and my other hormones are ok only.
    can someone pls tell me Is it ok to do pgs with the previous embryos? and without pgs what are my success with
    BB and BC grading embryos.

    ladyp0tter
  • Hi to everyone new that has joined!! WELCOME! @Italianmommy8 -I'm excited for your transfer!! I hope all goes great for you! @waiting4mirac - welcome! I personally think redoing embryo's isn't worth it either. They offered that for my one unknown, but I am not going to do it and risk it.

    At the time you did your retrieval, you were much younger so I don't think its really necessary. I did my ER at 43 so I needed to (90% are usually bad by then and it proved true). Luckily I didn't waste time using mine fresh or one at a time without testing since 6 of my 7 were abnormal and one is unknown.

    I understand about the cost because we did out of pocket as well. We have already said if my "unknown" emby doesn't work this time, we will do one more round of IVF to see if I can get any normal embryo's, but otherwise, that will be it. 

    Looking forward to everyone's results!! I am guessing my transfer will likely be the last week of August or so depending on when my AF starts (hoping it holds off until next week after my consult).
    Me: 43yo, DH: 46yo
    3 Daughters (singleton @27yo, ID Twins @34yo)
    Protein S Deficiency (Blood Clotting Disorder) - reason for 2 of my M/C's
    4 MC's:  Blighted Ovum-D&C @ 9wks;  Natural MC @ 7wks; Blighted Ovum-D&C @ 9wks; MC genetically normal boy-D&C @ 9wks
    Tubes were tied after my Twins. Remarried and want to give my DH a baby!
    IVF#1 June 2019 - ER 6/15/19, 24R, 21M, 20F, 7 6DBlasts Frozen for PGS Testing,
    RESULTS of PGS 4 abnormal girls,  2 abnormal boys, 1 indeterminate girl
    FET#1 August 23, 2019 (transferring 1 indeterminate girl & 1 abnormal boy)
  • Hi @italianmommy8 your transfer is coming up so soon! I bet you are extremely excited!! Is this your first FET?

    @waiting4mirac gosh I'm so sorry you're nervous! I personally wouldn't thaw them to do PGS either. I don't think it's worth the risk of losing a healthy one in the thaw/refreeze process. You have 7 embryos and those are good odds that some of them are healthy. I think you should be emotionally and physically prepared for one or two not to stick in case there were some severely abnormals in there but as long as your perspective is set I think you'll get your healthy embryo all nestled in.

    Also, the success rate varies by your clinic so you should definitely ask them! My clinic has a 68% success rate with FET ending in a live birth. When is your FET scheduled for??
  • Thanks meggiehibs and ladyp0tter!
    My FET is scheduled betn August 5 -15 anywhere. Im going to start my BCP today and we spoke to the Dr today and finally decided we will not go for PGS testing. and we will try to transfer one high quality embryo(mine is 6BB and remaining five are BC). and the Dr wants me to do the Saline SonoHystogram also to avoid any polps ans its
    scheduled next week. and I asked him about endometrial scratching but he said we can do but its not going to add anything. so he will look only for lining.
    Baby dust to all.
  • lrynwnablrynwnab
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    Is anyone else having hot flashes and elevated emotions from the estrace? My dosage increases tomorrow, too. 
  • @Irynwnab - I did feel off with the estrace. Definitely more numb like I had no emotions. It was an odd feeling. 

    I have my meeting with the genetic counselor tomorrow and then will hopefully have the green light to start the cycle for my FET. If I can get it going this week, It would likely be the last week of August for FET. I am so hopeful that the counselor will give us good news (as good as we can get with our batch of blasts).
    Me: 43yo, DH: 46yo
    3 Daughters (singleton @27yo, ID Twins @34yo)
    Protein S Deficiency (Blood Clotting Disorder) - reason for 2 of my M/C's
    4 MC's:  Blighted Ovum-D&C @ 9wks;  Natural MC @ 7wks; Blighted Ovum-D&C @ 9wks; MC genetically normal boy-D&C @ 9wks
    Tubes were tied after my Twins. Remarried and want to give my DH a baby!
    IVF#1 June 2019 - ER 6/15/19, 24R, 21M, 20F, 7 6DBlasts Frozen for PGS Testing,
    RESULTS of PGS 4 abnormal girls,  2 abnormal boys, 1 indeterminate girl
    FET#1 August 23, 2019 (transferring 1 indeterminate girl & 1 abnormal boy)
  • Copying and pasting from the July FET board to introduce myself here.

    Hi everyone. I will be starting a new cycle next week if I get my period on time. We just tested our remaining 7 embryos, they were tested yesterday and should get the results next Friday. 
    We switched fertility clinics due to medical mistakes at my last clinic (RMA) now at IRMS. We started the process last August, egg retrieval last October - 10 5 day embryos. First cycle didn’t work, second cycle was cancelled a few days prior to transfer as there was fluid in uterus and thin lining so they scheduled me for surgery with a scope and D&C and fixed a csection defect and did endometrial biopsy. It showed endometritis which they cleared up with antibiotics. Surgery was beginning of February. Then we did another cycle (transfer 2 cycle 3) and we got pregnant. My numbers were 24, 44, 95 and they said weren’t doubling correctly and had me stop all medication and miscarry at home. The next cycle (transfer 3 cycle 4) was the same protocol except last cycle they didn’t have me take the trigger shot which I mentioned to my doctor and she said they should have and maybe that’s why I miscarried. They had me do a stimming protocol without the retrieval for my protocol before transfer. This doctor doesn’t not believe that should have been done. I got pregnant again with the FET after the miscarriage. This time they said my numbers were great taken a day early due to flights 53, 96, 149, 253, (the middle numbers weren’t doubling appropriately they said), then it went 800, 1300, 1900, 2100, 2500 etc. They started talking about ectopic very early on because they are so obsessed with numbers. When we went in for first ultrasound the dr at location for weekend monitoring states I had ectopic in my tube and got another dr to come in to agree with her. We were devastated. I had cysts everywhere and in pain from stimming with the protocol. They did see a sac measuring 2.5 in my uterus that she said was just a cyst fluid filled sac. They told us we had to take the methotrexate shots in the office before my tube ruptured. I didn’t want to do it. Ultimately I was forced to do it and did it. We went back in for monitoring at normal location on Monday and showed sac and yolk sac in uterus and this monitoring dr was shocked I was given methotrexate (cancer medication for ectopic) as I am clearly pregnant in the uterus. We were in and out of the hospital. I won’t get into all the details but I had my obgyn take over care due to RMA’s major mistakes.  I had to have a D&C and they biopsy the embryo. The results were a genetically normal baby boy. Devastating. 

    On to the new journey, met with new doctor at IRMS and she knows everything that has happened. I had a saline ultrasound and endometrial biopsy three weeks ago and all came back normal. We did another sperm analysis, my husband has had 0% morphology and normal motility and count but this time 2% morphology and very low count. We decided to thaw test and refreeze the remaining 7 embryos as this doctor recommended. I should get my period by July 8th if it comes on time. We couldn’t try for 3 months due to methotrexate in my body. I’ve had several side effects from it. This cycle she is doing a different protocol and doesn’t agree with the protocol the place had me on. My transfer should be around July 29th. 

    Who else is having a transfer around 7/29?
    I hope this cycle works for everyone! Good luck! I’m looking forward to getting to know everyone.
  • my husband and I just listened to a voicemail that was left on Wednesday by a number I didn’t know. We listened together and they said I’m calling with the embryo report that out of the 7 frozen embryos 2 of them were sent to biopsy and refrozen!!!! WHAATTT!!!!! We had a looong talk with our new fertility dr if we should thaw, biopsy and refreeze the 7 and the risks and the costs. She said there was a 5% chance and worse case we lose 1 embryo! We lost 5!!!!! And the 2 remaining are being sent to get tested. We paid $3000 to thaw, biopsy and refreeze our 7 frozen as recommended by new fertility doctor and now we lose 5!!!! We also just found out we have to pay $225 per embryo for the third party lab to do the testing, on top of the $3000 we just spent. We are devastated! I’m not sure how much more I can take after everything I’ve been through!
  • I was planning on copying and parting all my posts from July FET but too much. Please look for my user name and check it out. Sorry guys! 

    I started PIO, deoxcycline and Medrol yesterday. I haven’t had monitoring since last Wednesday and supposed to go back this Thursday. Transfer is this Friday
  • pathomerpathomer
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    Hey ladies! Thank you @[email protected] @stella_700 and @lrynwnab for the well wishes and love! I’m definitely counting down til Xfer day! 

    So I did some research on Lupron and found some pretty scary side effects! Some people complained of bad headaches and feeling fizzy/experiencing difficulty focusing. If you are on or we’re on Lupron please share your experience. I’ve been taking it for a few days 1st couple of days no major side effects. But over the last day or so I’ve been nauseous and irritable. 
  • pathomerpathomer
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    @italianmommy8 I’m so sorry you are experiencing all of these challenges! I am most certainly wishing you good luck & baby dust for Friday and praying for a sticky embaby or embabies! Are you transferring one or both embryos? 

    @waiting4mirac any update on the success rate of thawing, testing and re-freezing your embryos? 
  • I can only transfer one at a time. I’m high risk for preterm labor 
    pathomer
  • @italiamnommy8 FX for a successful cycle, and for your transfer day coming up so soon.  I just read some of your previous posts.  I’m devastated just devastated for you.  What those doctors did to you is nothing short of malpractice.  If you have the mental energy for it I hope you are seeking legal counsel.  I can’t believe you lost so many embryos with the thaw and refreeze, was that at the new doctor? I’ve never heard of anyone losing so many.  I’m so so sorry.  I hope that things start to look up for you and everything goes smoothly with your transfer.  My heart goes out to you I’m sure you have a lot of healing to do.  I’m rooting for you.

    Welcome @waiting4mirac.  I am here trying for a second as well and also live in Chicago.  We actually wanted to go with Dr. Lawrence but when we tried back in the day for our first he was mostly working in the burbs and we ended up with a different doc at FCI, that didn’t work out for us so LONG story short we ended up at Northwestern instead.  I’m sorry you last retrieval didn’t give the results you were hoping for, but 7 frozen embryos is a decent amount to work with even without PGS.  There is some correlation with embryo grading and success rates but grading itself can be very subjective.  Is your doc recommending transferring multiple embryos at once?  We did thaw and do PGS on previously tested embryos, there is a chance of loosing an embryo in a freeze thaw cycle.  ***TW we decided to take that chance after 3 early miscarriages.  I couldn’t mentally take doing another cycle without to improve our chances of only transferring embryos with potential.  Our successful transfer a PGS normal “B” embryo (though I can’t remember the other letter) and we had other AAs that did not take.  END TW***

    @lrynwnab when I took estrace before it made me emotional and tired.  I don’t think I had hot flashes but I do remember them mentioning it as a possible side effect L

    @ladyp0tter FX for you appointment today with the genetic counselor.  Please let us know how it went.

    @pathomer I’ve been on Lupron a couple times and honestly I never had any side effects on that one.  Maybe a bit irritable but I think in my case that may be due to stress fertility treatments in general…lol.  Hope it isn’t too bad for you.

    Me:36 DW:31  
    TTC History in Spoiler ***Trigger Warning*** Losses/Child Mentioned 
    Dx: My wife has no sperm  :D and apparently my embryos aren't as good as they look
    2016

     * April IUI#1 - BFN
     * June IUI#2 - BFN
     * July IUI#3 - CP  :'(
     * Sept IVF#1 - 4 Retrieved & Mature, 4 Blasts.  Fresh Transfer 1  - CP  :'(
     * November FET #1 - Transferred 1 Blast - CP  :'(
    2017 Switched REs - Recurrent loss testing for me - all normal, remaining 2 frosties sent for PGS - both abnormal
     * April/May IVF#2:  9 retrieved, 8 mature, 7 fertilized, 7 blasts!  Sent for PGS = 2 Normals in the bank! (1 remaining)
     * November IVF #3 12R, 8M, 6F, 4 blasts! - All 4 PGS normal.
     * November FET# 2 (Transfer a PGS normal from IVF#2) - BFP!!!
    2018 DD born 8/20/18
    2019 5PGS frosties planning for a FET in August

  • UPDATE: I met with the counselor yesterday and she gave us the info we wanted to hear. She recommends we transfer the indeterminate one (which we knew anyway) and one of the lowest risk abnormals (she chose her first choice which was the same one I was hoping for - the boy with a Trisomy 11 indication). 

    She said that if it works, it will likely be normal. (since it is potentially a mosaic where they grabbed abnormal cells from that part and since the cells come from what becomes the placenta, there is a high chance that all is fine with the baby cells inside the embryo).

    Basically - If it really does that abnormality, it shouldn't implant. So I have contacted my RE to get this cycle going. No period in sight yet so they will have to kick start it so I can transfer this month. YAY for next steps!! 
    Me: 43yo, DH: 46yo
    3 Daughters (singleton @27yo, ID Twins @34yo)
    Protein S Deficiency (Blood Clotting Disorder) - reason for 2 of my M/C's
    4 MC's:  Blighted Ovum-D&C @ 9wks;  Natural MC @ 7wks; Blighted Ovum-D&C @ 9wks; MC genetically normal boy-D&C @ 9wks
    Tubes were tied after my Twins. Remarried and want to give my DH a baby!
    IVF#1 June 2019 - ER 6/15/19, 24R, 21M, 20F, 7 6DBlasts Frozen for PGS Testing,
    RESULTS of PGS 4 abnormal girls,  2 abnormal boys, 1 indeterminate girl
    FET#1 August 23, 2019 (transferring 1 indeterminate girl & 1 abnormal boy)
  • @ladyp0tter I'm glad that you didn't experience any surprises at the meeting and that you have a plan moving forward. Nothing helped me through this process more that looking at that next step.

    @waitingformirac I don't put too much faith into the rating of the embryos, for example our clinic doesn't grade A at all, its just so subjective.

    @meggiehibs We got a surprise, that's for sure. Those first two months were a blur but we made it and should be on the downhill slide toward easier toddlers soon.

    @lrynwnab We put in two thinking that we'd never gotten pregnant in almost ten years and that our embryos weren't tested. Now that we know I can carry successfully, it'll just be one at a time.

    My bloodwork came back good so I got my calendar in, my mock transfer scheduled aug. 12th, on BC pills currently that have given me raging hormone headaches for everyday for the past week, tentatively scheduled for a Sept. 9th transfer. I'll be taking an increasing dose of estrace pills and start PIO six days before transfer.






    Sept & Nov 2016 IUI's Neg
    Feb IVF cycle 12 ret, 8 fert, 5 frozen
    Late March FET with 2 untested embryos
    1st beta 338
    Nov 2017 boy/girl twins
    2nd FET Aug/Sept
    wabash15
  • Yayyyy such exciting news @ladyp0tter and @Stella_700

    Maybe y’all have some background knowledge on this so I spoke with my Dr about the abnormal embryos- one is missing chromosome 16, one is missing chromosome 17, one has 4 extra chromosomes (not sure which ones) and one has an extra full set of chromosomes ALL which he said are incompatible with life. Are these embryos typically discarded? -Dr suggest I sign consent and have the clinic discard. Not sure what to do with them...don’t want to discard them IF there is a chance of survival. 
  • stella_700stella_700
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    @pathomer I am not a doctor nor did we choose to test our embryos. Visiting an academic library to do some peer reviewed research would be useful in finding out what questions to ask, I'm in a urban area with major medical schools, if you are in a similar location speaking with a medical librarian to help you do such detailed, specific research on chromosome deletions would be an excellent way to become truly informed. After gathering my questions I'd suggest a meeting with your clinic's counselor like @ladypotter had. My only initial thought is for the embryo with a full extra set, could it be in the process of splitting into identical twins?  This is where I'd start with such a hard decision.

    Sept & Nov 2016 IUI's Neg
    Feb IVF cycle 12 ret, 8 fert, 5 frozen
    Late March FET with 2 untested embryos
    1st beta 338
    Nov 2017 boy/girl twins
    2nd FET Aug/Sept
  • Happy transfer month! I hope we all have successful transfers. My first lining check is Monday. I’m so impatient!
  • @ladyp0tter so happy to see your update and you are able to move forward with your transfer.  Wishing you nothing but the best. 

    @pathomer my clinic does not discard in fact they encourage keeping abnormal embryos as a just in case measure until you are completely done having kids.  However, they will only transfer abnormal embryos if you don’t have any normal embryos to transfer and after meeting with a genetic councilor.  My REs reasoning is that the cells taken from the embryo are placental cells and the baby cells can be fine.  Also sometimes the placental cells contain both normal and abnormal cells (known as mosaic).  In some cases mosaics can lead to a perfectly normal pregnancy/baby as the normal cells take over.   My RE stressed that abnormal embryos have a much lower percentage of successful pregnancy than normal embryos or untested embryos...but there is a chance.  Embryo testing has improved significantly over the past 3yrs they have improved upon the detection of mosaic embryos which can give better insight on embryos that are abnormal but with potential.  My doc says a normal is absolutely 100% a normal but an abnormal is a "probably" abnormal even with the best testing.  Bottom line there are a lot of variables here.  Before discarding I would talk to a genetic councilor who will be able to look at your specific testing company and your specific results to let you know if there is a chance. 

    @lrynwnab happy transfer month and best wishes for a successful transfer you too.  I forgot how time stops waiting for treatments.  I have everything cleared and now I’m just sitting here twiddling my thumbs waiting for AF to show. 

    Me:36 DW:31  
    TTC History in Spoiler ***Trigger Warning*** Losses/Child Mentioned 
    Dx: My wife has no sperm  :D and apparently my embryos aren't as good as they look
    2016

     * April IUI#1 - BFN
     * June IUI#2 - BFN
     * July IUI#3 - CP  :'(
     * Sept IVF#1 - 4 Retrieved & Mature, 4 Blasts.  Fresh Transfer 1  - CP  :'(
     * November FET #1 - Transferred 1 Blast - CP  :'(
    2017 Switched REs - Recurrent loss testing for me - all normal, remaining 2 frosties sent for PGS - both abnormal
     * April/May IVF#2:  9 retrieved, 8 mature, 7 fertilized, 7 blasts!  Sent for PGS = 2 Normals in the bank! (1 remaining)
     * November IVF #3 12R, 8M, 6F, 4 blasts! - All 4 PGS normal.
     * November FET# 2 (Transfer a PGS normal from IVF#2) - BFP!!!
    2018 DD born 8/20/18
    2019 5PGS frosties planning for a FET in August

  • I had monitoring this morning. Blood work and ultrasound!

    lining was a 9!!!!!! 😃 best it’s been in the past is 8. So thrilled about that! Type 1

    estrogen today was 290.0
    progesterone today was 26.03

    last night was my last dose of deoxycline and Medrol, I left a pee specimen this morning because I’ve been getting up to pee 6-10 times a night the past 3 days. They started me on macrobid antibiotics today to rake for a week.

    i go tomorrow at 12:45 for the transfer! The transfer will be an hour later at 1:45. First time at the new clinic and hoping this works! 

    Thanks for all the support everyone!
    ladyp0tter2MomsHoping
  • @lrynwnab Yes, the estrace makes me feel super funky. Just emotional and not my usual self. Just gotta remember the prize at the end of all of this! Hopefully your lining and thyroid check go well tomorrow. Did they pick a transfer date for you?

    @italianmommy8 I am so so sorry to hear about your difficult journey getting to this point. My heart just breaks for you but i'm also so excited that your transfer is tomorrow!!! When will your beta be? Are you planning on testing at home or waiting? So excited to go through this with you! 

    @pathomer I was also nauseous and irritable but honestly none of the severe side effects. I was also nervous because I read so many scary things about that one. FX for you that the nausea is as bad as it gets for you! Gosh, genetics are hard. I would definitely suggest to meet with a genetic counselor. Decisions like that are huge and having all the professional advice you can get will really take some of the pressure off. 

    @ladyp0tter Oh my gosh that is just the greatest news ever!!! As I was reading your update I was just so happy for you. I hope your heart feels a little more peace now! Do you have an estimate of when your transfer will be??

    @Knottie1464178146 ; thinking of you!! Any update on your transfer??

    @kimberlyshae Have you gotten your ERA results back yet? My mock was 3 weeks ago and I still haven't gotten them!! When is your transfer date? Hope you're doing well!!

    @2MomsHoping I can't believe AF isn't here yet!!! The times we actually want to start she takes her sweet time!! Ugh wishing you all the crampy spotty vibes so you can get this thing going!!!


    ladyp0tter
  • Hey! Transfer is today. I go back on Sunday for blood work to check estrogen and progesterone. Then go back next Sunday the 11th for blood test for pregnancy. 
    ladyp0tter2MomsHoping
  • I always test at home with early pregnancy test strips from their website. I got very faint positives at 4dpt last two times 
  • @Pathomer - agreed with what the others said. My genetic counselor said that it is easier for a body to self-correct a trisomy (extra chromosome) than a monosomy (missing chromosome) in the case of a mosaic embryo.

    Trisomy 17, 13 and 21 are not ones you want to mess with according to her because they have a higher likelihood of becoming a baby and having major life issues. Other trisomies and monosomies will typically not implant at all or miscarry early if they do implant. So she calls those "low risk" to try. As I mentioned, if it works, likely it is ok. If it doesn't work, it was likely abnormal as stated. 

    The science is not 100% accurate yet. As for how they rate it, apparently clinics have different percentages they review so in my clinic she said that anything more than 60% abnormal is labeled abnormal, 40-60% abnormal is likely mosaic and under 40% they would call "normal". So, even a normal embryo can have up to 40% abnormalcy in them. She said each clinic has its own process/rate. 

    I had 2 embryos with 48 chromosomes (means 2 different trisomies), 2 embryos with 47 chromosomes (1 trisomy), 1 with a trisomy and deletion and 1 they couldn't confirm. She said she would avoid the ones with more than one trisomy altogether and only use the 1 monosomy one if I had no others to choose from. So in the end, my only other option besides the indeterminate one was the one with a low-level risk Trisomy. She said with the Trisomy 11, that even IF that embryo has that and it successfully becomes a baby, that it may never show as anything that affects the child in the end anyway. 
    Me: 43yo, DH: 46yo
    3 Daughters (singleton @27yo, ID Twins @34yo)
    Protein S Deficiency (Blood Clotting Disorder) - reason for 2 of my M/C's
    4 MC's:  Blighted Ovum-D&C @ 9wks;  Natural MC @ 7wks; Blighted Ovum-D&C @ 9wks; MC genetically normal boy-D&C @ 9wks
    Tubes were tied after my Twins. Remarried and want to give my DH a baby!
    IVF#1 June 2019 - ER 6/15/19, 24R, 21M, 20F, 7 6DBlasts Frozen for PGS Testing,
    RESULTS of PGS 4 abnormal girls,  2 abnormal boys, 1 indeterminate girl
    FET#1 August 23, 2019 (transferring 1 indeterminate girl & 1 abnormal boy)
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