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TWW Thursday 6/28

**This is a thread that welcomes all regardless of where they are at in their TTC journeys. Please be mindful of topics that are discussed that could be hurtful to those going through tough times. Mention of children or pregnancies of others should have a TW and be in a spoiler if possible, and only be mentioned if it is extremely pertinent to the conversation. Thanks for keeping this a safe place for us all to engage!**


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People think we become mothers when we give birth but the truth is we become mothers the moment we start calling our babies to us in our thoughts, dreams and prayers. Some paths are short and some are so long that you can easily forget where you were headed.

How I feel all of the time.
My 7 Year Journey ***Tw in spoiler***
IVF
IVF #1 - September 2018; Follistim, Menopur, Cetrotide & Lupron/HCG combo trigger; PGS; ICSI
Back on Levothyroxine
FET #1 - October 2018; cancelled, all PGS aneuploid
FET #1 - November 30th, transferred anyway
Wondfo BFP 5dp5dt, CB Digi 6dpt, 
1st Beta on 7dpt 93
2nd Beta on 10dpt 510!

TTC #1 since 2011. Tried for 5 years before we knew there was a one year rule.
Diag w/MS 2016; w/PCOS & IF 2017
New RE 2018; PCOS diagnosis taken away, IF due to ovary adhesions, but prev. RE insists PCOS IF

IUI
IUI #1 July 2017 w/100mg Clo+trigger; BFN; benched w/big cysts
IUI #2 October 2017 w/50mg Clo+trigger; BFN; benched w/big cysts
IUI #3 February 2018 w/5mg Femara+trigger; low P
BFP February; mc March; Subclinical hypothyroid started Levothyroxine 
IUI #4 March 2018 w/7.5mg Femara+trigger; BFN
Medicated cycle & TI April 2018 w/7.5mg Femara+trigger; BFN
Tried several cycles on our own; all BFN
 
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    @prpl11butterfly I would be quick happy with popcorn for breakfast too! Your chart does look great though! Sorry if I am feeding the crazy lol  :p

    Month/Cycle: 13/15 (4 benched)

    CD/DPO: 14/1

    Timing: -1, O

    Typical LP length: 14

    Testing: Nope

    R/R: I do not want to be at work today. Tomorrow is a half day and I can not wait for the long weekend to start. Also not thrilled about our timing this month. I really wanted more in there. Oh well. Will see if we can rally again tonight but I doubt it will be helpful at this point. 

    CS/Q:
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    @prpl11butterfly I’m afraid I must join in the crazy-feeding and send some positivity your way because your chart looks great! Also, popcorn is always a good idea.

    @nitnat007 yay for a long weekend ahead! I think the days right before time off always seem to pass more slowly.

    Month/Cycle: 6/6

    CD/DPO: 24/6

    Timing: -5,-3,-1

    Typical LP length: 10-12ish

    Testing: will be doing my darndest to wfaf

    R/R: Rant: apparently I don’t sleep well when MH is out of town. I’m tired… Rave: celebrating June birthday’s at work today and they brought in possibly the biggest donuts I’ve ever seen (like the size of a dessert plate). The one I snagged is filled with Nutella, I’m in heaven.

    CS/Q: my RHR dropped today, think that’s not a great sign.

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    I feel like I'm going nuts. Please help me with my chart! (below)

    @prpl11butterfly rain always makes me sleepy, too. I also think your chart looks great, but only time will tell!  Were you having a scary dream right before you woke up or too many blankets making you hot? FX for you!

    @nitnat007 I'm sorry you're frustrated about timing! I know very well what that feels like. I don't trust FF on my chart night now and we have to rally again tonight for #4 in a row. Lol I already need a break! 

    @LElkCot Mmm donuts. I'm jealous! 

    Month/Cycle: 3/3

    CD/DPO: 18/1 or 3 ????

    Timing: Good or OK depending on O

    Typical LP length: 11-13. We'll see what this month brings.  

    Testing: 12 dpo if no signs of AF and temps still high. 

    R/R: FF is out of its damn mind. 

    CS/Q: So, based on CM and my temp spike, I would say I O'd overnight between CD 16 and 17, but FF is saying CD 15, which gives us not great timing and I also don't think that could possibly be correct. I've tweaked all the settings, put in more high temps, and it just likes CD 15. I really disagree, though. Ugh. What do ya'll think? 


    *TW*

    Me: 31 Him: 32

    BFP #1 12/30/15 - CP

    BFP #2 3/11/16 - DD born 11/16

    TFAS since April 2018

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    @general_organa I think that FF may only be off by one day and cd16 could potentially be O day, but I wouldn't think past that. If that is the case, you still have great timing. Have your opk's been reliable in the past?
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    @general_organa What happens if you put in two more similarly high temps the next two days?

    @prpl11butterfly Definitely a pretty chart - but if it helps your crazy at all, I've had some similarly pretty ones that of course ended up meaning nothing.  Hope it's different for you!
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    @nitnat007 I have been looking through past charts and sometimes I wouldn't get any positives at all, sometimes I got 3 in a row, sometimes it was the day before O, sometimes positive on O day. Overall I would say they've been unreliable for predicting O, and I think that's why I stopped using them. This is the first cycle I've added OPKs back in a long time. 

    @Sparty18 FF still keeps O on CD 15. It makes no sense! Especially based on CM. 
    *TW*

    Me: 31 Him: 32

    BFP #1 12/30/15 - CP

    BFP #2 3/11/16 - DD born 11/16

    TFAS since April 2018

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    @general_organa What happens if you put either a negative for CD 15, or put another positive day in for CD 16? I think FF is putting extra weight on that OPK. What time do you usually take your OPK? Either way your timing is pretty good.
    DD1: June '16 DD2: March ‘19 :::: Married since 2011 :::: USN Wife ::::
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    @prpl11butterfly *does a little dance* I'm still pumping good vibes your way!

    @general_organa I would say you probably O'd on day 16, but probably sometime late at night/in the night and didn't get your temp spike until day 18. FF and I argue all the time. She can be a bit difficult at times. 


    Month/Cycle: 8/4

    CD/DPO: 26/8

    Timing: Good

    Typical LP length: 10/11 days

    Testing: Saturday morning

    R/R: Rave: Drove around Napa and Sonoma yesterday. B-E-A-utiful! Rant: Drank no wine :(

    CS/Q: Idk, I'm not seeing much movement in the way of temps on this chart. It probably has a lot to do with being on progesterone... Or that's what I'm telling myself anyway. *TW last time I conceived I had a temp drop on 7 dpo. Yesterday there was a tiiiny drop.. Maybe that counts for something?

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    @general_organa Gah sorry, I just realized you said that about putting in high temps in your original post.  Does anything happen if you change the timing of the open circle temps so they are solid?  
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    edited June 2018
    @meggyme I’ve been doing the OPKs around 4:30 pm. If I take the +OPK out, FF still picks CD 15. 

    @Sparty18 nothing changes if I play with the times of the temps. 

    @nomangos23 I agree with you. But I’m totally second guessing myself since FF disagrees! Also, you’re in my neck of the woods! I live about an hour from Sonoma.  :)

    This is why I feel like FF is crazy! It just won’t change its mind. 
    *TW*

    Me: 31 Him: 32

    BFP #1 12/30/15 - CP

    BFP #2 3/11/16 - DD born 11/16

    TFAS since April 2018

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    @nitnat007 I'm quite jealous you get a long weekend.

    @LElkCot donuts sound really good right now. I've never had nutella.... And I still don't think RHR deserves that much weight. Patients.

    @general_organa I'm guessing it's being thrown off because you 16 and 17 temps were so close. What happens if you remove the 17? Also, another option if you want is to set it to OPK Detector and then it will default to 16 being O day.

    @Sparty18 thank you, I knew someone would be willing to help me dispell the crazy :tongue: 

    @nomangos23 thanks for all your positive vibes! Sending some your way for Saturday!
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    Month/Cycle: 9/10

    CD/DPO: 25/8

    Timing: -3, -2, 0, +1

    Typical LP length: 10ish

    Testing: Not sure

    R/R: Rant: No rant today! Rave: It's almost the weekend!

    CS/Q: This morning I had my same 8dpo temp dip which I'm thinking means I'm out this cycle :( Chart in spoiler


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    Month/Cycle: 4/3

    CD/DPO: 28/12

    Timing: -4, -2, O, +1

    Typical LP length: 12ish

    Testing: If no spotting today, and tomorrow’s temp holds, tomorrow morning.  I’m off on Fridays, so I can cry in peace if it’s negative.

    R/R: My hopes are way too high right now. I’m just trying to get through today without obsessing too much. 

    CS/Q: temps are holding steady
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    @TJtheGoat rooting for you from WTO! Fx and keep us posted! :)
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    @TJtheGoat FX for you!!
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    @TJtheGoat Everything crossed for you girl! 
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    DD1: June '16 DD2: March ‘19 :::: Married since 2011 :::: USN Wife ::::
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    Thanks everyone! I really appreciate all the love and positive vibes. :blush:
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    Hi all! My first post on a forum of any kind (except Facebook of course)!! I had my IUD removed in April then avoided conception for a couple months. Now ready to get this party started. I wanted to dive in and start tracking ovulation so I could understand things and learn about my body. Has been fascinating! Also I am so intrigued with the process and find it all consuming at times!

    Month/Cycle: 1/1

    CD/DPO: 20/5

    Timing: -2, -1, 0, +1

    WAYDTGKU: prenatal, BBT, cm, OPK -- everything lined up as expected which was neat to see. LH surge detected / egg white CM / ovulation assumed / temp increase

    Typical LP length: not sure

    Testing: not sure

    R/R: Having fun beginning this journey but also somewhat stressful. Not related to TTC -- holiday week next week (yay) and home reno cruising along (yay) and no rants TBD.

    CS/Q: only 5 dpo, temps still high (what does this stand for?)
    Me & DH ~ 32
    Married 7/6/13

    EDD 2/5/21

    DD 4/19
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    @prpl11butterfly That's one good-looking chart!

    LElkCot Nutella donut sounds amazing right now, and I just ate lol

    @tjthegoat Everything crossed for you right now! 

    Month/Cycle: 2/2

    CD/DPO: 21/5 (I think)

    Timing: -3, -2, 0, +1

    Typical LP length: 13

    Testing: 10dpo

    R/R: Finally feel like I'm caught up at work, which is great because I start vacation tomorrow!!!

    CS/Q: So I really don't know what's going on with my stupid temps. I had a really low temp yesterday but I got up at 4:30 instead of 5:45. When I put it in, FF took off my crosshairs, so I decided to ignore both that temp and the other one when I also got up at 4:30. FF still took off my crosshairs. So ignoring the first is the only way I can get it to keep my O day. 


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    @prpl11butterfly I really miss my fitbit for the sleep tracker. I downloaded an app for the apple watch but the fitness, RHR or sleep tracking abilities are nowhere near what fitbit was. I think when my iPhone dies I'll switch to a google phone and go back to the fitbit. Still keeping my FX for you even if it turns out to be nothing!
    @nitnat007 hope your day isn't dragging by too slowly. 
    @LElkCot Umm I feel like I need one of those donuts in my life.
    @general_organaSorry FF is giving you grief. I have no insights, but will commiserate with you. Your timing looks good either way.
    @nomango23 Sonoma and Napa and no wine?! 
    @crookshanks10 your timing is great. yay for almost weekend! Us Canadians have a long weekend and I am beyond excited. Hoping early-riser DH will walk the dogs Monday morning so I can sleep in, lol. 
    @TJtheGoat crossing all the things for you today! 

    TTC History:

    Me: 36  MH: 39, TTC since Dec 2017

    Aug '18: PCOS dx

    Nov '18: MH SA - 19mil

    Dec '18-Mar '19: Letrozole + TI - all BFN

    Apr '19: Letrozole + TI, - BFN.  Repeat SA (27mil) & DNA fragmentation test (17%)

    Aug '19: Letrozole + HCG trigger + IUI + prog supp - BFN (MH: 16mil)

    Sep '19: 2nd IUI, same protocol - BFN (MH: 16mil) 

    Dec '19: IVF #1 w/ICSI, PGT. 5 retrieved, 4 fertilized, 3 blasts, 3 PGT-A normal.

    Mar '20: FET #1, perfect 5AA blast transferred. BFN.

    Sept '20: FET #2, 5BB tsf. 9/18/20 BFP!! EDD: 5/27/21. MMC 11w                                                  

    Feb ‘21: FET #3, last 6BB blast transferred. BFP, EDD 11/2/21. MC 5w3d. 

    May '21: IVF #2 w/ICSI, PGT. 8R, 7M, 6F, 6 blasts - 3AB, 3AB, 3BB, 4BB, 5BB, 6BA. Fresh tsf 5/13/21 - BFN. 

    June '21: PGT-A results = 3 abnormal, 1 low level mosaic. Referred to new REI, had consult with 2nd RE in between. 


    Sept '21: RPL, immune testing normal

    Oct '21: IVF #3 w/IMSI, PGT. 33R, 26M, 23F, 9 blasts (7 day 6, 2 day 7). PGT-A = 5 normal, 1 mosaic

    Dec '21: Positive for endometritis, RX Flagyl & Keflex

    Jan '22: FET #5 - Kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol incl. PRP, intralipids, prednisone, medrol, nivestym, fragmin - CP

    Feb '22: FET #6 - Kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol w/higher doses of pred & fragmin - BFN

    Mar '22: Mock cycle for ERA - cancelled, repeat endometrial biopsy instead. Still positive for endometritis. RX ciprofloxacin & amoxicillin. 

    Apr '22: IVF #4 w/IMSI, PGT. 28R, 23M, 16F, 11 blasts. PGT-A = 6 normal. 

    June '22: FET #7 - Microdose lupron downreg w/kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol - double embryo transfer. BFN.

    July '22: FET #8 - Mini stim w/Puregon + trigger, kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol. BFN. 

    Sep '22: Taking a break

    Dec '22: Attempted abdominal myomectomy, fibroid too close to cervix and major blood vessels. Wasn't removed. 

    Feb '23: FET #9 - Modified natural w/baby asp, HCG trigger, PIO, PRP, Medrol, HCG wash, embryo glue - BFP!! EDD 11/11/23


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    @LElkCot I forgot to mention your doughnut! It looks and sounds awesome. On the Nutella subject, for those KitKat fans out there, they just put out a new Hazelnut KitKat which tastes like there is Nutella in it. It is yum!
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    @prpl11butterfly You already know I’m obsessed with your chart but I can is to you if it makes the wait easier lol! 

    No new updates for me. Just holding out on testing his month but surprisingly I’ve not started my crazy SS this month yet. You can only have sore boobs and BFNs so many times before you start to want to ignore your body. 
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    @prpl11butterfly if you like chocolate, you should definitely try nutella at some point, its amazing! As for rhr, I'm not even sure how much faith to have in what my Alta is giving me... it's been the exact same (58 for 3 days, then 59 for the last 4) which seems somewhat unlikely? But I've also only had it for a week now. 
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    @suzycupcake Made my heart hurt to see your temp drop. I admire the hell out of you girl. Sending all the best wishes and hopes for you as you embark on this round of IUI. Lots of creepy internet hugs for you today. 
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    @suzycupcake huge internet hugs from me today too.  <3 I have so much admiration for you and your strength. Sending all the good vibes I can muster your way.

    TTC History:

    Me: 36  MH: 39, TTC since Dec 2017

    Aug '18: PCOS dx

    Nov '18: MH SA - 19mil

    Dec '18-Mar '19: Letrozole + TI - all BFN

    Apr '19: Letrozole + TI, - BFN.  Repeat SA (27mil) & DNA fragmentation test (17%)

    Aug '19: Letrozole + HCG trigger + IUI + prog supp - BFN (MH: 16mil)

    Sep '19: 2nd IUI, same protocol - BFN (MH: 16mil) 

    Dec '19: IVF #1 w/ICSI, PGT. 5 retrieved, 4 fertilized, 3 blasts, 3 PGT-A normal.

    Mar '20: FET #1, perfect 5AA blast transferred. BFN.

    Sept '20: FET #2, 5BB tsf. 9/18/20 BFP!! EDD: 5/27/21. MMC 11w                                                  

    Feb ‘21: FET #3, last 6BB blast transferred. BFP, EDD 11/2/21. MC 5w3d. 

    May '21: IVF #2 w/ICSI, PGT. 8R, 7M, 6F, 6 blasts - 3AB, 3AB, 3BB, 4BB, 5BB, 6BA. Fresh tsf 5/13/21 - BFN. 

    June '21: PGT-A results = 3 abnormal, 1 low level mosaic. Referred to new REI, had consult with 2nd RE in between. 


    Sept '21: RPL, immune testing normal

    Oct '21: IVF #3 w/IMSI, PGT. 33R, 26M, 23F, 9 blasts (7 day 6, 2 day 7). PGT-A = 5 normal, 1 mosaic

    Dec '21: Positive for endometritis, RX Flagyl & Keflex

    Jan '22: FET #5 - Kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol incl. PRP, intralipids, prednisone, medrol, nivestym, fragmin - CP

    Feb '22: FET #6 - Kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol w/higher doses of pred & fragmin - BFN

    Mar '22: Mock cycle for ERA - cancelled, repeat endometrial biopsy instead. Still positive for endometritis. RX ciprofloxacin & amoxicillin. 

    Apr '22: IVF #4 w/IMSI, PGT. 28R, 23M, 16F, 11 blasts. PGT-A = 6 normal. 

    June '22: FET #7 - Microdose lupron downreg w/kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol - double embryo transfer. BFN.

    July '22: FET #8 - Mini stim w/Puregon + trigger, kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol. BFN. 

    Sep '22: Taking a break

    Dec '22: Attempted abdominal myomectomy, fibroid too close to cervix and major blood vessels. Wasn't removed. 

    Feb '23: FET #9 - Modified natural w/baby asp, HCG trigger, PIO, PRP, Medrol, HCG wash, embryo glue - BFP!! EDD 11/11/23


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    @suzycupcake I aspire to have your positive attitude in spite of difficulty. I know this is probably upsetting, but you’ve chosen not to let it affect your day and that is so inspiring.
    DD1: June '16 DD2: March ‘19 :::: Married since 2011 :::: USN Wife ::::
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    @suzycupcake Girl, you are a rockstar! My heart aches for you, but you handle it with such grace and positivity that leaves me in awe of you. Take care of you. Be kind to yourself. And know that we are here for you to lean on. *biggest of hugs*
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    @suzycupcake your are really an amazing woman. Do something for you. I know a clean house feels good, but something just for you. I wish I knew you in person so I could give you a hug. Know that on sending you one :heart:
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    @suzycupcake Oh that temp drop is heart breaking. I feel for you but admire your attitude. GL with your next steps.
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    @suzycupcake I really admire your resilience and your determination. The new clinic sounds great. I hope you are able to get into one of those programs and the change of providers is what’s needed. It sounds like your husband is on the right page, so hopefully you two can lean on each other for comfort this weekend. And us of course! 
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    @suzycupcake I so hate to see that drop. Your attitude and positivity are impressive, and I hope you take some time to do something for yourself in the next few days. Sending hugs and good wishes.
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    @suzycupcake <3 big hug girlfriend. A clean house always brings me a sense of peace and accomplishment too.
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    edited June 2018
    @prpl11butterfly and @sparty18 I think maybe I'm entering wrong temps again. I woke up at 3:30 this morning and temped at that time, but I did go back to sleep so I used my 6:25 am temp. I just input the temp from 3:30 (which I didn't want to use because it was so ridiculously early/the middle of the night), and then FF took CHs away. I'm so confused. I tried that temp earlier today and FF didn't remove the CHs from CD 15. I also decided to discard that temp on CD13 because I woke up hella sweaty and hot that day. 

    @crookshanks10 it's only 8dpo! Don't count yourself out yet! 

    @TJtheGoat ahhh everything crossed for you!! 

    @marebear15 enjoy the vacation! Sorry you're dealing with a confusing chart, too! 

    @suzycupcake big hugs. I'm sorry about the temp drop. That 3 for $1500 IUI deal is seriously unheard of, though.  :o 

    edited for clarity
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    Me: 31 Him: 32

    BFP #1 12/30/15 - CP

    BFP #2 3/11/16 - DD born 11/16

    TFAS since April 2018

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    @general_organa How many hours of sleep did you have for that 3:30 temp? Are you the one who can’t get consistent sleep? I have a vague memory of that being someone here. 
    People think we become mothers when we give birth but the truth is we become mothers the moment we start calling our babies to us in our thoughts, dreams and prayers. Some paths are short and some are so long that you can easily forget where you were headed.

    How I feel all of the time.
    My 7 Year Journey ***Tw in spoiler***
    IVF
    IVF #1 - September 2018; Follistim, Menopur, Cetrotide & Lupron/HCG combo trigger; PGS; ICSI
    Back on Levothyroxine
    FET #1 - October 2018; cancelled, all PGS aneuploid
    FET #1 - November 30th, transferred anyway
    Wondfo BFP 5dp5dt, CB Digi 6dpt, 
    1st Beta on 7dpt 93
    2nd Beta on 10dpt 510!

    TTC #1 since 2011. Tried for 5 years before we knew there was a one year rule.
    Diag w/MS 2016; w/PCOS & IF 2017
    New RE 2018; PCOS diagnosis taken away, IF due to ovary adhesions, but prev. RE insists PCOS IF

    IUI
    IUI #1 July 2017 w/100mg Clo+trigger; BFN; benched w/big cysts
    IUI #2 October 2017 w/50mg Clo+trigger; BFN; benched w/big cysts
    IUI #3 February 2018 w/5mg Femara+trigger; low P
    BFP February; mc March; Subclinical hypothyroid started Levothyroxine 
    IUI #4 March 2018 w/7.5mg Femara+trigger; BFN
    Medicated cycle & TI April 2018 w/7.5mg Femara+trigger; BFN
    Tried several cycles on our own; all BFN
     
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