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Re: December FET

  • Hi all.  Started lurking on these boards again this morning after taking a long break.  I had an FET last Friday, December 8 and am already driving myself crazy about symptons / lack thereof.  So far, just some very light / faint (though somewhat constant) cramping, not sure if it's medicine or something else.  Long story short - my husband and I have been on a looooong fertility journey for the last 3.5 years.  This transfer is our last embryo, and all signs are pointing to using a sperm donor if this one doesn't work.  Needless to say, there is a lot riding on this one (it has been biopsied and came back normal, and I also did ERA testing).  We are in counseling regarding the use of a donor to make sure each of us is comfortable with that moving forward, if that's the route we have to take.  My blood test is on 12/21, the day my parents arrive for the holidays.  Yikes.

    @decemberdoll27 I'm so sorry about your BFN.  Take care of yourself.

    @radmom27 do I remember you from another board?

    Anyhoo - sending lots of good vibes to all of you lovelies and hoping for some in return if you can spare them.  xo
    TTC since November 2013
    5 failed IUIs
    February 2015 - BFP naturally (ended at 5 weeks in chemical pregnancy)
    August 2015 - first IVF cycle (14 eggs retrieved, 10 mature, 10 fertilized, 2 blasts)
    September 2015 - BFP (ended at 6.5 weeks in chemical pregnancy)
    February 2016 - FET (BFN)
    September 2016 - second IVF cycle (19 eggs retrieved, 16 mature, 12 fertilized, 1 blast)
    Diagnosis: unexplained infertility 


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  • @kjones202- I think I recognize you from prior boards maybe.. I have been on here for the last 1.5 years so not sure which one. But welcome! I had my transfer last friday as well, but my beta is on 12/18. Any chance your RE would do it earlier? or will you test in advance to prepare before your parents come? I hear you about the symptom spotting- it would be so nice to know what was going on in there! I feel like I have also had some faint, but constant cramping so hopefully its a good sign and not just in my head!
    History in Spoiler

    Age: 32 (same with DH). Together since 2006, Married June 2013 and TTC since August 2015
    Diagnosis: Mild Endo, DOR (AMH of 1.5), Poor Quality Eggs/embryos, Displaced Window of Implantation (ERA Post Receptive)
    March-May 2016: 1 TI and 2 IUIs- BFN 
    June 2016- Laproscopy- found/removed mild endo and confirmed only 1 normal healthy ovary.
    August 2016- IVF #1 with Antagonist Protocol- Cancelled (2 lead follies), converted to IUI- BFN
    Oct-Nov 2016- IVF #2 with Estrogen Priming Micro Lupron Protocol, 2 eggs retrieved, day 3 transfer of 1- BFN
    January 2017- New RE, IVF#3 with Estrogen Priming Antagonist Protocol, 12 eggs, 8 mature, 6 fertilized, 2 day 5 early blasts transferred (none to freeze :(), BFN
    May 2017- Sept 2017- Starting Donor Egg process! Waiting for donor to be available... and then she is pregnant at baseline :(
    Oct 2017- Donor #2: 25R, 22M,18F, 12 blasts frozen! Fresh transfer cancelled due to thin lining with fluid :(
    Nov 2017- Hysterscopy to remove polyp
    Dec 2017- DE FET #1 on 12/8 on 2 perfect blasts- BFN and devastated
    Jan-Mar 2018- ERA #1- Post receptive by 24 hours, ERA #2 RECEPTIVE with 4 days of Progesterone
    Apr 2018- DE FET cancelled for lining issues :(
    Jun 2018- DE FET #2 of two 1AA blasts- first BFP ever! Beta 10dp5dt- 378, Beta 14dp5dt- 2840, Beta 16dp5dt- 4035, beta 18dp5dt- 10916. Due on 2/20 with one baby after a vanishing twin
    Baby Born born early @ 33.5 weeks due to Pre-e
    Back for # 2!
  • Hi @JamieH2000!  I don't know why we wait so long at my clinic.  It will be 13 days post-transfer that we test.  I may take a drugstore cheapie earlier that week just to get my mind right.  I told myself I wouldn't and I will accept whatever comes our way but it's always easy to say that before you get the news.  Good luck to you - will be thinking of you!
    TTC since November 2013
    5 failed IUIs
    February 2015 - BFP naturally (ended at 5 weeks in chemical pregnancy)
    August 2015 - first IVF cycle (14 eggs retrieved, 10 mature, 10 fertilized, 2 blasts)
    September 2015 - BFP (ended at 6.5 weeks in chemical pregnancy)
    February 2016 - FET (BFN)
    September 2016 - second IVF cycle (19 eggs retrieved, 16 mature, 12 fertilized, 1 blast)
    Diagnosis: unexplained infertility 


  • @DecemberDoll27. I am so so sorry, love.  I was still really hopeful for a different outcome... (((hugs))) ((((hugs)))) and (((((moar hugs))))))

    @bethann I have been on Estrace 2x daily, but pretty sure by this time last time I was already taking it 3x.  Anywho, I went up to 3x today, and I will start PIO Sunday.  I take it once in the morning, and then again at night in order to stay in the PM schedule from there on out.  No idea what kind of estrogen levels they want to see at this point.  I wrote down what she said for posterity, since i knew I wouldn't remember.

    @Kjones202. Welcome!  And GL!  I totally tested early last time, and I was glad I did.  I am pretty much planning to pee on all the things again this time, too lol
  • @DecemberDoll27 I'm so sorry about your BFN.  It just sucks.  
    @kjones202 I do remember you from some time ago!  I've been on and off these boards for what feels like forever...Welcome back!  The 2WW drives me insane.  Sending you positive juju.  
    TTC since August 2014 
    Me: 41, Him: 43 

    DX: Unexplained secondary infertility 

    History:
    Multiple months of Clomid/Femara
    End of March 2015: BFP with Femara! Saw heartbeat at 5.5 weeks. M/C at 11 weeks
    Multiple more months of Femara
    IUI #1 with Femara and Follistem 75 units: BFN
    IUI #2 with Follistem 150 units: BFN
    Dec 2015: 1st IVF. 10 eggs retrieved with 8 eggs fertilized.  5 day transfer of two embryos with 2 frozen embies. BFN
    January 2016: FET #1 2 embryos: BFN
    March 2016: 2nd IVF cycle. 4 eggs retrieved with 2 fertilized. Quick two day transfer of both embryos: BFN
    April/May 2016 IVF #3. 11 eggs retrieved. 10 mature.  7 fertilized.  2 5AA blasts transferred 5/11/2016 BFN
    September 2016 IVF #4: 17 follicles growing, premature ovulation through Cetrotide. Retrieval cancelled. 
    April 2017 IVF #5: 9 follicles growing, 6 eggs retrieved with 5 fertilized. Transfer of three blasts. BFN
    June 2017: IVF #6: 2 follicles growing, 5 eggs retrieved with 5 fertilized. Transfer of 5 3-day embryos. Chemical pregnancy. BFN
    Nov/Dec 2017: Donor egg cycle. 33 eggs retrieved, 26 mature. 26 fertilized. 
  • Thanks @BusinessWife and @radmom27!  Good to connect here.  I told my husband last night about my "lack of symptoms" and my frustration/manic craziness and he recommended that we tell my parents to come down a day later, so regardless of what happens on beta test day, we can just handle it ourselves without having to entertain.  They are driving down so they can be flexible.  I think that's probably a good idea so I'm going to talk to them about it tonight.  I don't need that added stress in addition to what we are already dealing with.  Not that my parents are stressful, but you know what I mean.

    I also keep trying to remind myself that my embryo transferred not even four full days ago.  So I probably shouldn't be sweating this so much but Gosh DARNIT, this is so hard.  I feel like a freaking lunatic.

    Anyway, happy Tuesday to all of you!
    TTC since November 2013
    5 failed IUIs
    February 2015 - BFP naturally (ended at 5 weeks in chemical pregnancy)
    August 2015 - first IVF cycle (14 eggs retrieved, 10 mature, 10 fertilized, 2 blasts)
    September 2015 - BFP (ended at 6.5 weeks in chemical pregnancy)
    February 2016 - FET (BFN)
    September 2016 - second IVF cycle (19 eggs retrieved, 16 mature, 12 fertilized, 1 blast)
    Diagnosis: unexplained infertility 


  • @DecemberDoll27 Oh no, I'm so sorry to hear it :( I hope you have all sorts of wine and partying planned in the next couple weeks. I had the endometrial scratch a couple weeks ago before this month's FET -- it's not fun but it could be worthwhile!



  • @adirat thanks, friend! I have an appointment with my RE to discuss our next steps on Friday! When is your FET?
    Me 30, DH 39
    TTC since Aug 2015, 
    BFP Apr 2017 - late diagnosed EP, right tube removed, left tube scarred.
    Dx: tubal IF
    IVF Sept 2017, 7 R, 6M, 6F- 4 blasts, 1 transferred fresh - CP
    FET #1 Dec 2017- BFN
    FET #2 Jan 2018- CP
    FET #3 BFP!!! EDD 12/15/2018!
  • @adirat, I am so sorry holidays are hard on you. I am turning 30 on the 23rd and I thought I would for sure be pregnant by the time I am 30... I am dreading family Christmas dinner and my entire family asking why we don't have kids yet. My parents know about our difficulties but the rest of the relatives drive me mad with questions. I am tempted to skip the party this year. 
    Me 30, DH 39
    TTC since Aug 2015, 
    BFP Apr 2017 - late diagnosed EP, right tube removed, left tube scarred.
    Dx: tubal IF
    IVF Sept 2017, 7 R, 6M, 6F- 4 blasts, 1 transferred fresh - CP
    FET #1 Dec 2017- BFN
    FET #2 Jan 2018- CP
    FET #3 BFP!!! EDD 12/15/2018!
  • edited December 2017
    @adirat. I hear you on it being hard to feel hopeful this holiday.  But I'm glad you do had an upcoming transfer to look forward to.  For me, I can say the closer it gets, the less bleak I feel.  Hopefully that little light will start to come back for you, too... ❤

    @DecemberDoll27. I'm so sorry another milestone without a baby is approaching.  That is always hard.  Our family has basically stopped asking, which is more depressing in a way.  I try to give people the benefit of the doubt that they mean well - most people have no idea what a nerve they are hitting.  In the past it helped me to practice a few easy responses to just get people off my back or change the subject.  Even a sort of meaningless, "ah well, it happens when it happens!" And then shift the conversation to, "so, how are YOUR kids doing?   Does Billy like his new job?" etc. People love talking about themselves, so if there is a quick way to put it back on them, sometimes that helps the moment blow over quickly.  (((Hugs)))

    I hate to see any of us miss out on seeing the family because of our struggles, but at the same time, we gotta give ourselves permission to do whatever makes you happy. ❤

    *typos
  • suziev3suziev3 member
    edited December 2017
    @DecemberDoll27 So sorry about your results. You will rally and try again and we will be rooting for you.   I have been avoiding some family and social events this year too.  Some days I feel like being social is a good distraction for me and helps me feel like I am not putting my life on hold and other times I would just rather not deal. This IVF process is so all consuming.  You don't need any added stress so be good to yourself and don't put pressure on yourself whatever you decide. 

    This tww is even harder than I thought.  One minute I feel very optimistic and the next I have already decided it's over.  I'm all over the map :# 
  • @DecemberDoll27 I am so sorry for your results . Keep your chin up girl ! We are all here for you ! 

    I avoid so many people because of this infertility process. My sister in laws pregnant , my cousin is pregnant , and 3 of my really good friends are pregnant all of which got pregnant in 1 month of trying for their firsts ! Talk about slap in the face ! So I avoid so many people and family because I just don’t want to talk about it or be asked when it’s my turn :/ 


    My betas in the morning , i don’t know how I feel because I feel like I always feel before my period so. And it’s hard I’ve never been pregnant not a glimpse of a bfp so I have no idea how your supposed to feel. I have not tested because pregnancy tests give me way too much anxiety . I’ve seen so many negatives it just brings back bad memories . Anyways fingers crossed for tomorrow .... we shall see.
  • AlohaKumuAlohaKumu member
    edited December 2017
    Have any of you experienced feelings of nausea as a result of your pre-FET meds, like PIO and Doxycycline? I have been feeling hideously awful since yesterday afternoon and now I can't sleep. It feels like my stomach is a pit of acid! I'm not sure if it's just stress or if this is to be expected with all the meds.
    Me: 35 DH: 28
    TTC since June 2016

    Azoospermia diagnosis (zero count) Dec 2016

    AZFc chromosome microdeletion discovery March 2017
    Unsuccessful TESE for DH in August 2017
    October 2017 IVF with donor sperm
    29R, 24M, 16F, 2d5, 4d6 (6 embryos total)
    Only 3 could have PGS. 2/3 normal. 5 embies frozen
    12/15/17 FET #1 (1 embryo)--CP
    2/7/17 FET #2 (2 embryos)--BFN
    Chronic endometritis diagnosis May 2018
    ERA Sept 2018--borderline receptive--12 more hours of progesterone
    Abnormal SIS Oct 2018
    Repeat hysteroscopy Nov 1. Treated recurring endometritis.
    12/4/18 FET #3 (2 embryos)--BFN
    Our journey has come to an end.
    ~*~*~Nevertheless, she persisted~*~*~
  • @suziev3- I hear you! I am feeling very up and down with being hopeful. Its soo hard!! 

    @msd1001- good luck today!! Prayers for great news!!

    @alohakumu- I wasn't on those meds before mine this time, but I have been on them before and didn't have nausea side effects. Though I feel like really any side effects from all the meds we are on are always consider 'normal' when you email the nurse.... Hope you feel better soon!
    History in Spoiler

    Age: 32 (same with DH). Together since 2006, Married June 2013 and TTC since August 2015
    Diagnosis: Mild Endo, DOR (AMH of 1.5), Poor Quality Eggs/embryos, Displaced Window of Implantation (ERA Post Receptive)
    March-May 2016: 1 TI and 2 IUIs- BFN 
    June 2016- Laproscopy- found/removed mild endo and confirmed only 1 normal healthy ovary.
    August 2016- IVF #1 with Antagonist Protocol- Cancelled (2 lead follies), converted to IUI- BFN
    Oct-Nov 2016- IVF #2 with Estrogen Priming Micro Lupron Protocol, 2 eggs retrieved, day 3 transfer of 1- BFN
    January 2017- New RE, IVF#3 with Estrogen Priming Antagonist Protocol, 12 eggs, 8 mature, 6 fertilized, 2 day 5 early blasts transferred (none to freeze :(), BFN
    May 2017- Sept 2017- Starting Donor Egg process! Waiting for donor to be available... and then she is pregnant at baseline :(
    Oct 2017- Donor #2: 25R, 22M,18F, 12 blasts frozen! Fresh transfer cancelled due to thin lining with fluid :(
    Nov 2017- Hysterscopy to remove polyp
    Dec 2017- DE FET #1 on 12/8 on 2 perfect blasts- BFN and devastated
    Jan-Mar 2018- ERA #1- Post receptive by 24 hours, ERA #2 RECEPTIVE with 4 days of Progesterone
    Apr 2018- DE FET cancelled for lining issues :(
    Jun 2018- DE FET #2 of two 1AA blasts- first BFP ever! Beta 10dp5dt- 378, Beta 14dp5dt- 2840, Beta 16dp5dt- 4035, beta 18dp5dt- 10916. Due on 2/20 with one baby after a vanishing twin
    Baby Born born early @ 33.5 weeks due to Pre-e
    Back for # 2!
  • @msd1001 Good luck on your beta! 

    @AlohaKumu I felt really bad from doxy, nausea and headache! I found it helpful to eat a yogurt or something like that with the pill together. Also I drink a lot of peppermint tea and it seems to calm my stomach down! Hang in there girl! 

    @JamieH2000 I am rooting for you here! All these struggles should lead to BFP, right? You earned yourself some good karma for ten years ahead! Are you going to test early? 

    @suziev3, the TWW is really hard, try to distract yourself ( easier said than done). We are all here to listen to all your doubts and cheer you on! 

    I am hoping I will be the only BFN on this board! I skipped work yesterday and enjoyed a quite day at home. Can't wait for Friday so I can meet with the RE and get a plan for what's ahead. I am hoping my third transfer will be the charm! And I will try to talk my RE into not using Lupron this time and go with short estrace protocol. I hated Lupron so much I want to try without it. I feel like I was overly suppressed. 
    Me 30, DH 39
    TTC since Aug 2015, 
    BFP Apr 2017 - late diagnosed EP, right tube removed, left tube scarred.
    Dx: tubal IF
    IVF Sept 2017, 7 R, 6M, 6F- 4 blasts, 1 transferred fresh - CP
    FET #1 Dec 2017- BFN
    FET #2 Jan 2018- CP
    FET #3 BFP!!! EDD 12/15/2018!
  • @AlohaKumu yes. My stomach is very acidy. I can’t tell if its meds or anxiety. 

    I POAS this AM and it was negative you guys.  
    7dp5dt. I know it’s still early but I’m getting the feeling it’s not happening for me. 
  • @suziev3 and @msd1001 I'm with you on the TWW.  It's so stressful (and they tell you not to stress - ha!).  TW **I've been pregnant twice before so it's hard not to think about how I "felt" then (cramping, headaches, spotting) versus how I feel now (no symptoms).** end TW  It's such a mind game.  Anyway, I'm rooting for good news for you.

    Gosh, I can't even begin to tell you how refreshing it is to read all of your accounts of avoidance, parties, terrible coworker comments (I even got a, "You're so lucky you don't have to deal with kids and can still sleep in on the weekends!" once).  People can be so ignorant.  I feel like such an evil person for not wanting to go to things, or not wanting to see certain people, or not being able to be happy for someone's pregnancy.  And sometimes, it feels like everyone is whispering about why you don't have kids yet and it's like the elephant in the room.  It's a terrible feeling.

    The holidays are a special struggle.  I want to be with family but I also want to be left alone to cry my eyes out if I need to.  Anyway, sending all of the positive vibes I have in me out into the universe for you ladies today.  
    TTC since November 2013
    5 failed IUIs
    February 2015 - BFP naturally (ended at 5 weeks in chemical pregnancy)
    August 2015 - first IVF cycle (14 eggs retrieved, 10 mature, 10 fertilized, 2 blasts)
    September 2015 - BFP (ended at 6.5 weeks in chemical pregnancy)
    February 2016 - FET (BFN)
    September 2016 - second IVF cycle (19 eggs retrieved, 16 mature, 12 fertilized, 1 blast)
    Diagnosis: unexplained infertility 


  • @DecemberDoll27 I am so so sorry! I really wish the third time is the charm. I totally understand how you feel right now. 

    @AlohaKumu I am on a different med (Something called lugestrone - a Finnish version of progesterone suppositories). It is the third time I am using it and the last two times I have had nausea. I checked online and apparently progesterone can be the culprit. 

    @suziev3 I totally agree. TWW is killing. I try to distract myself but I am not very successful. It is constantly on my mind. I am going to test at 9dp3dt which is Sunday. One way or the other I want to be done with the waiting.

    AFM I have been crazy busy at work. That is why I was not around. The transfer went smoothly and according to the embryologist, the embryo was perfect. I can’t stop symptom checking and compare the cycles which I know is not right but I haven’t had any definitive symptoms like implantation bleeding. So still counting the days and waiting for an early HPT on Sunday.
    Me, 36 & DH, 47 
    TTC since October 2013,  male infertility - low morphology
    IVF #1: ICSI, November 2015, 21 egg, 8 fertilised, 3 matured (3 day embryos):
     fresh transfer : BFN
     FET #1 (May 2016), miscarriage (6 weeks) 
    IVF # 2 ICSI, November 2016, 21 egg, 11 fertilised,11 matured (3 day embryos):
     fresh cycle canceled due to OHSS
     FET #2 October 2017, BFN
     FET #3 December 2017
  • Thanks, @DecemberDoll27 @suziev3 @saba23 I'm going to call my RE's office later, just in case they can do something to help my body hating itself. I'm thinking of all of you and I refresh this page constantly!
    Me: 35 DH: 28
    TTC since June 2016

    Azoospermia diagnosis (zero count) Dec 2016

    AZFc chromosome microdeletion discovery March 2017
    Unsuccessful TESE for DH in August 2017
    October 2017 IVF with donor sperm
    29R, 24M, 16F, 2d5, 4d6 (6 embryos total)
    Only 3 could have PGS. 2/3 normal. 5 embies frozen
    12/15/17 FET #1 (1 embryo)--CP
    2/7/17 FET #2 (2 embryos)--BFN
    Chronic endometritis diagnosis May 2018
    ERA Sept 2018--borderline receptive--12 more hours of progesterone
    Abnormal SIS Oct 2018
    Repeat hysteroscopy Nov 1. Treated recurring endometritis.
    12/4/18 FET #3 (2 embryos)--BFN
    Our journey has come to an end.
    ~*~*~Nevertheless, she persisted~*~*~
  • msd1001msd1001 member
    edited December 2017
    @kjones202  talking about people being insensitive one of my coworkers told me that my Infertility appointments we’re getting in the way of her golf league because my boss was changing her hours to accommodate my appointments ! Then she had the audacity when I got OHSS to say “I hope it’s all worth it.” Like WTF who says that to a person suffering with Infertility… Is it worth it? Really of course a child is worth everything in this world no matter what we have to go through to get them ! Ugh People really do suck. I also do not go to baby showers at all.  I always send a giftBut to me it’s like pouring salt on the wound. 

    Thanks for all the prayers and positive vibes girls ! We shall see what tomorrow brings .  I truly feel that it’s probably going to be negative but if it is my husband and I decided that we will jump right into another cycle. My clinic once you get your period you can start another FET cycle .  I have pretty much mentally prepared myself for a negative and I feel as though I do that to protect myself from getting really hurt. It’s going to hurt no matter what but by going in it with no expectations I think it may help we shall see :/ 
  • @msd1001 your story about the lady and her golf wins the prize for the most insensitive IF comment ever! LOL! Hands down! Some people just don't get it, do they? Thanks for making me smile! 
    Me 30, DH 39
    TTC since Aug 2015, 
    BFP Apr 2017 - late diagnosed EP, right tube removed, left tube scarred.
    Dx: tubal IF
    IVF Sept 2017, 7 R, 6M, 6F- 4 blasts, 1 transferred fresh - CP
    FET #1 Dec 2017- BFN
    FET #2 Jan 2018- CP
    FET #3 BFP!!! EDD 12/15/2018!
  • msd1001msd1001 member
    edited December 2017
    @DecemberDoll27 I’m glad I made you smile :) people can be so mean !
  • @alohakumu With my previous FET, I started medrol and doxycycline on the same day, and one of those (or the combo) made me extremely nauseated for about 24 hours. I looked online and that doesn't seem unusual. I had some ginger candies leftover from my pregnancy and that helped, and it really was short-lived for me. I hope it is for you too!


  • Thanks, @adirat. I am feeling a bit better today, so hopefully it was just my body adjusting to all the new medications. (I’m on the same ones you mentioned.)
    Me: 35 DH: 28
    TTC since June 2016

    Azoospermia diagnosis (zero count) Dec 2016

    AZFc chromosome microdeletion discovery March 2017
    Unsuccessful TESE for DH in August 2017
    October 2017 IVF with donor sperm
    29R, 24M, 16F, 2d5, 4d6 (6 embryos total)
    Only 3 could have PGS. 2/3 normal. 5 embies frozen
    12/15/17 FET #1 (1 embryo)--CP
    2/7/17 FET #2 (2 embryos)--BFN
    Chronic endometritis diagnosis May 2018
    ERA Sept 2018--borderline receptive--12 more hours of progesterone
    Abnormal SIS Oct 2018
    Repeat hysteroscopy Nov 1. Treated recurring endometritis.
    12/4/18 FET #3 (2 embryos)--BFN
    Our journey has come to an end.
    ~*~*~Nevertheless, she persisted~*~*~
  • @alohakumu I hope it was just the adjustment! This FET, I'm doing the medrol but not the doxycycline, so I guess I'll find out which one made me feel so sick. 

    I recently came across this info about probiotics/antibiotics and FETs so I'm going to skip the doxycycline this time (even though my doctor thinks it would not have any impact): https://www.reddit.com/r/infertility/comments/7d4z0q/discussion_probiotics_and_ivf_outcomes/ 


  • @adirat I am a huuuge believer in probiotics and I take VSL #3 almost daily. (I stagger it between taking the doxycycline.) It's hard for me to get the prescription grade of those here, but probiotics were the only thing that helped to stop a cycle of awful, nonstop vaginal infections when I was in my early 20s.
    Me: 35 DH: 28
    TTC since June 2016

    Azoospermia diagnosis (zero count) Dec 2016

    AZFc chromosome microdeletion discovery March 2017
    Unsuccessful TESE for DH in August 2017
    October 2017 IVF with donor sperm
    29R, 24M, 16F, 2d5, 4d6 (6 embryos total)
    Only 3 could have PGS. 2/3 normal. 5 embies frozen
    12/15/17 FET #1 (1 embryo)--CP
    2/7/17 FET #2 (2 embryos)--BFN
    Chronic endometritis diagnosis May 2018
    ERA Sept 2018--borderline receptive--12 more hours of progesterone
    Abnormal SIS Oct 2018
    Repeat hysteroscopy Nov 1. Treated recurring endometritis.
    12/4/18 FET #3 (2 embryos)--BFN
    Our journey has come to an end.
    ~*~*~Nevertheless, she persisted~*~*~
  • @msd1001 Good luck on your beta today!!!!
    TTC since August 2014 
    Me: 41, Him: 43 

    DX: Unexplained secondary infertility 

    History:
    Multiple months of Clomid/Femara
    End of March 2015: BFP with Femara! Saw heartbeat at 5.5 weeks. M/C at 11 weeks
    Multiple more months of Femara
    IUI #1 with Femara and Follistem 75 units: BFN
    IUI #2 with Follistem 150 units: BFN
    Dec 2015: 1st IVF. 10 eggs retrieved with 8 eggs fertilized.  5 day transfer of two embryos with 2 frozen embies. BFN
    January 2016: FET #1 2 embryos: BFN
    March 2016: 2nd IVF cycle. 4 eggs retrieved with 2 fertilized. Quick two day transfer of both embryos: BFN
    April/May 2016 IVF #3. 11 eggs retrieved. 10 mature.  7 fertilized.  2 5AA blasts transferred 5/11/2016 BFN
    September 2016 IVF #4: 17 follicles growing, premature ovulation through Cetrotide. Retrieval cancelled. 
    April 2017 IVF #5: 9 follicles growing, 6 eggs retrieved with 5 fertilized. Transfer of three blasts. BFN
    June 2017: IVF #6: 2 follicles growing, 5 eggs retrieved with 5 fertilized. Transfer of 5 3-day embryos. Chemical pregnancy. BFN
    Nov/Dec 2017: Donor egg cycle. 33 eggs retrieved, 26 mature. 26 fertilized. 
  • @msd1001 Good luck with your test today!
    Me, 36 & DH, 47 
    TTC since October 2013,  male infertility - low morphology
    IVF #1: ICSI, November 2015, 21 egg, 8 fertilised, 3 matured (3 day embryos):
     fresh transfer : BFN
     FET #1 (May 2016), miscarriage (6 weeks) 
    IVF # 2 ICSI, November 2016, 21 egg, 11 fertilised,11 matured (3 day embryos):
     fresh cycle canceled due to OHSS
     FET #2 October 2017, BFN
     FET #3 December 2017
  • I am freaking out for having minimal symptoms, anybody else experiencing the same thing? I have sore boobs and mild nausea but I know they are progesterone dependent and they are way milder than previous cycles, it feels like my body doesn’t produce any extra hormones as I guess it should be the case if things are working fine.

    Today I had a check up meeting in the clinic close to my working place and I decided to do some shopping afterwards. For some reason I totally had forgotten about not carrying stuff. I remembered though as soon as I stepped onto the slippery pavement (it snowed here last couple of days and then rained and then everything froze!!). I was just hoping (still do) this mistake does not ruin everything! Kindda worried :(
    Me, 36 & DH, 47 
    TTC since October 2013,  male infertility - low morphology
    IVF #1: ICSI, November 2015, 21 egg, 8 fertilised, 3 matured (3 day embryos):
     fresh transfer : BFN
     FET #1 (May 2016), miscarriage (6 weeks) 
    IVF # 2 ICSI, November 2016, 21 egg, 11 fertilised,11 matured (3 day embryos):
     fresh cycle canceled due to OHSS
     FET #2 October 2017, BFN
     FET #3 December 2017
  • @alohakumu Would you recommend a supplement? I was just going to eat yogurt or sauerkraut every day. I read mixed views online about whether a probiotc supplement would survive digestion.


  • @adirat Not all probiotic supplements do what they claim to do. If you don't have to refrigerate them, the amount of active cultures will be much lower. However, refrigerated supplements will have hundreds to thousands of times more beneficial bacteria than foods like yogurt (which can also have a lot of sugar), kimchi, or sauerkraut. I'll send you a PM with additional info.
    Me: 35 DH: 28
    TTC since June 2016

    Azoospermia diagnosis (zero count) Dec 2016

    AZFc chromosome microdeletion discovery March 2017
    Unsuccessful TESE for DH in August 2017
    October 2017 IVF with donor sperm
    29R, 24M, 16F, 2d5, 4d6 (6 embryos total)
    Only 3 could have PGS. 2/3 normal. 5 embies frozen
    12/15/17 FET #1 (1 embryo)--CP
    2/7/17 FET #2 (2 embryos)--BFN
    Chronic endometritis diagnosis May 2018
    ERA Sept 2018--borderline receptive--12 more hours of progesterone
    Abnormal SIS Oct 2018
    Repeat hysteroscopy Nov 1. Treated recurring endometritis.
    12/4/18 FET #3 (2 embryos)--BFN
    Our journey has come to an end.
    ~*~*~Nevertheless, she persisted~*~*~
  • Hi guys sorry I have been super behind in catching up with everyone’s posts!

    @bethann1022 I love your tradition of going away for the weekend to spend some time just with your husband.  I would love to do something like that.  I’m enjoy spending time with family but we really lack alone time this time of year.  Glad things are looking good with your E2!

    @DecemberDoll27 I’m so so so sorry L I’m glad you were able to take a day off and regroup I hope you will be able to try again soon.

    @kjones202 yikes you are balancing a lot of pressure.  FX for you that this transfer is the one!

    @suziev3 I’m sorry your POAS was negative I hope it was early. 

    @msd1001 I want to throat punch that coworker.  Good luck today!

    Me:38 DW:33 
    TTC History in Spoiler ***Trigger Warning*** Losses/Child Mentioned 
    Dx: My wife has no sperm  :D and apparently my embryos aren't as good as they look
    2016

     * April IUI#1 - BFN
     * June IUI#2 - BFN
     * July IUI#3 - CP  :'(
     * Sept IVF#1 - 4 Retrieved & Mature, 4 Blasts.  Fresh Transfer 1  - CP  :'(
     * November FET #1 - Transferred 1 Blast - CP  :'(
    2017 Switched REs - Recurrent loss testing for me - all normal, remaining 2 frosties sent for PGS - both abnormal
     * April/May IVF#2:  9 retrieved, 8 mature, 7 fertilized, 7 blasts!  Sent for testing - 2PGS Normals (0 remaining)
     * November IVF #3 12R, 8M, 6F, 4 blasts! - All 4 PGS normal!
     * November FET# 2 (Transfer a PGS normal from IVF#2) - BFP!!!
    2018 DD born 8/20/18
    2019 5PGS frosties ( 4 remaining)
      * September FET#3 (1PGS normal) - Beta#1: 139.7  Beta#2: 322.6

  • @adirat @AlohaKumu I have one at home I was taking before - not sure if it may be expired or not now,  it it was supposed to be a good brand liquid one.  I can let you k is the brand when I get a chance.  Hope you're feeling better ❤
  • @BusinessWife I'm definitely feeling better than I was the other day, but I'm still having periodic waves where I don't feel so hot. I've been having a lot of trouble sleeping for the past two days between the Doxycycline nausea and PIO knots. I feel a bit guilty, but I ended up getting a Starbucks short, light no-sugar chai that I'm sipping at work. My RE hasn't specifically mentioned that I should be limiting caffeine, but I know I should avoid it as much as possible. Unfortunately, I really don't think I'd be able to function without a touch something this morning. (I'm also eating some breakfast and water to try to mitigate the impact of the caffeine.)
    Me: 35 DH: 28
    TTC since June 2016

    Azoospermia diagnosis (zero count) Dec 2016

    AZFc chromosome microdeletion discovery March 2017
    Unsuccessful TESE for DH in August 2017
    October 2017 IVF with donor sperm
    29R, 24M, 16F, 2d5, 4d6 (6 embryos total)
    Only 3 could have PGS. 2/3 normal. 5 embies frozen
    12/15/17 FET #1 (1 embryo)--CP
    2/7/17 FET #2 (2 embryos)--BFN
    Chronic endometritis diagnosis May 2018
    ERA Sept 2018--borderline receptive--12 more hours of progesterone
    Abnormal SIS Oct 2018
    Repeat hysteroscopy Nov 1. Treated recurring endometritis.
    12/4/18 FET #3 (2 embryos)--BFN
    Our journey has come to an end.
    ~*~*~Nevertheless, she persisted~*~*~
  • @AlohaKumu I am the same way with caffeine!  I usually stop drinking it 100% day of transfer, and one the cycles I stopped the day I started prep, but it didn't affect the outcome so I'm not as cautious anymore.  I don't drink a ton of caffeine anyway, usually a coffee or iced tea 3-4 times/week so it isn't hard for me to switch to decaf or give up altogether when needed.  What day is your transfer again?  you've started the progesterone, how are the shots going?  I usually get nauseous from the PIO after about 3 days, but I also know as a nurse that doxycycline makes many people nauseous.  I have never taken it as my previous RE preferred azithromycin and my current RE prefers no antibiotics

    @Businesswife how are you doing?  how's everything looking, when is your next monitoring, Sunday?  

    @2momshoping I've missed hearing updates from you, how are you feeling? when is your first ultrasound again?

    @msd1001 good luck at your beta today!

    @laurad75 congrats on the doubling beta, so happy for you and can't wait to hear ultrasound update in a couple of weeks.  

    @radmom27 excited for your beta tomorrow!

    @jamieh2000 believe me, I completely understand your anxiety and truly mixed emotions right now during this TWW.  I also have my doubts about my upcoming transfer even though my RE told me that my chances (for his specific practice), he would see as around 70% based on embryo quality, status of my lining and knowing past ERA results.  I am so hopeful for you that this cycle will work and you are PASP and the upcoming holidays will be even more special this year.  Don't worry about symptoms, I truly don't believe there are any "true" symptoms that guarantee a positive when we are on the progesterone, last cycle I had so many symptoms that were different from all my negative cycles that I was sure it had worked, but ended up with the same outcome.  I am actually hoping this cycle maybe I won't have as many symptoms and that will be more of a sign for me, but I also need to try hard not to symptom spot 

    AFM, had my last monitoring appt before my official FET on the 20th.  They don't tell you time until the 19th, but my RE has requested 9:45 so he can be the one to do it himself which makes me very excited!  My E2 was much higher than it has been previous cycles, was 244 today as opposed to 143 at this point before, and he likes to see it over 180, preferably over 200 before starting PIO so it is perfect.  My lining is also at an 11, and trilaminar so ready to go!  

    I will start PIO tonight, 1ml first night and then 2ml each night for next 5 nights before transfer.  I will continue 2ml daily through TWW, I will also remain on estrace 2mg three times/day.  DH and I are going away for 2 nights tonight as we had this planned as our little pre-holiday relaxing escape, so I am very excited, but also need to remind myself the importance of maintaining consistency with these medications.  

    I haven't been great about frequent updating as I have been so busy with holidays approaching, but am so excited for everyone with transfers and betas coming up.  Can't believe how fast this month is flying, my beta will be officially on the 30th, so I am hoping and praying to start 2018 in the most positive fashion imaginable!  


  • @bethann1022 My FET is tomorrow at lunchtime, which is why I really didn't want to have to turn to caffeine this close to the transfer. I really needed a little boost though. The hamster that runs on the wheel of my mind was totally napping on the job. ;) After today, I'll just push through it with no caffeine. I'm not a fan of the PIO, but luckily my DH administers them so I don't have to see that needle of doom. I'm sure it's the combo of the doxycycline and PIO that's messing me up, so I'm hoping I get a little break when I finish the antibiotics today. It sounds like you have an amazing lining! Good luck with your PIO and enjoy your getaway before the big day.

    Me: 35 DH: 28
    TTC since June 2016

    Azoospermia diagnosis (zero count) Dec 2016

    AZFc chromosome microdeletion discovery March 2017
    Unsuccessful TESE for DH in August 2017
    October 2017 IVF with donor sperm
    29R, 24M, 16F, 2d5, 4d6 (6 embryos total)
    Only 3 could have PGS. 2/3 normal. 5 embies frozen
    12/15/17 FET #1 (1 embryo)--CP
    2/7/17 FET #2 (2 embryos)--BFN
    Chronic endometritis diagnosis May 2018
    ERA Sept 2018--borderline receptive--12 more hours of progesterone
    Abnormal SIS Oct 2018
    Repeat hysteroscopy Nov 1. Treated recurring endometritis.
    12/4/18 FET #3 (2 embryos)--BFN
    Our journey has come to an end.
    ~*~*~Nevertheless, she persisted~*~*~
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