@BusinessWife hope the transfer goes smoothly. I am surprised they let you be on your own. My clinic makes me take Valium before transfer so there is no way I can manage on my own after that. The scratch went ok, it was not as bad as I thought)) I am happy I got it done! Quoting my RE " We are not sure it helps, but it certainly does not hurt anything, so let's do it!" I think I am finally getting excited about holidays! It took an endometrial scratch to get me excited apparently, go figure! Hope you can have a short and painless TWW with family in town!
Me 30, DH 39 TTC since Aug 2015, BFP Apr 2017 - late diagnosed EP, right tube removed, left tube scarred. Dx: tubal IF IVF Sept 2017, 7 R, 6M, 6F- 4 blasts, 1 transferred fresh - CP FET #1 Dec 2017- BFN FET #2 Jan 2018- CP FET #3 BFP!!! EDD 12/15/2018!
@alohakumu- yayyy!! I think you are gonna get the best present on Christmas Eve!
@decemberdoll27- I just turned 30 a few months ago too, so I hear you. But I have to believe that 30 will bring the next adventure that we all want so badly!
History in Spoiler
Age: 32 (same with DH). Together since 2006, Married June 2013 and TTC since August 2015 Diagnosis: Mild Endo, DOR (AMH of 1.5), Poor Quality Eggs/embryos, Displaced Window of Implantation (ERA Post Receptive) March-May 2016: 1 TI and 2 IUIs- BFN June 2016- Laproscopy- found/removed mild endo and confirmed only 1 normal healthy ovary. August 2016- IVF #1 with Antagonist Protocol- Cancelled (2 lead follies), converted to IUI- BFN Oct-Nov 2016- IVF #2 with Estrogen Priming Micro Lupron Protocol, 2 eggs retrieved, day 3 transfer of 1- BFN January 2017- New RE, IVF#3 with Estrogen Priming Antagonist Protocol, 12 eggs, 8 mature, 6 fertilized, 2 day 5 early blasts transferred (none to freeze ), BFN May 2017- Sept 2017- Starting Donor Egg process! Waiting for donor to be available... and then she is pregnant at baseline Oct 2017- Donor #2: 25R, 22M,18F, 12 blasts frozen! Fresh transfer cancelled due to thin lining with fluid Nov 2017- Hysterscopy to remove polyp Dec 2017- DE FET #1 on 12/8 on 2 perfect blasts- BFN and devastated Jan-Mar 2018- ERA #1- Post receptive by 24 hours, ERA #2 RECEPTIVE with 4 days of Progesterone Apr 2018- DE FET cancelled for lining issues Jun 2018- DE FET #2 of two 1AA blasts- first BFP ever! Beta 10dp5dt- 378, Beta 14dp5dt- 2840, Beta 16dp5dt- 4035, beta 18dp5dt- 10916. Due on 2/20 with one baby after a vanishing twin Baby Born born early @ 33.5 weeks due to Pre-e Back for # 2!
@BusinessWife Congrats on your transfer today and being PUPO! How did it go? I went to my first FET by myself as my clinic doesn't give valium either. However, my second one fell on a Sunday so my DH went with me and he swore that he'd never miss another one. Well after sitting through four of them, especially the last two where he's had to wait in a really hot room with me for about a half hour while my bladder fills I wonder if he is changing his mind. It is always nice when they are there, but not necessary, and I hope it went smoothly and this is the one for you! Does your mom know about your FET? (I forget if you mentioned it before). Hope you can at least get some rest today, as it's difficult this time of year
@alohakumu Congrats on the second line on the FRER, so excited for you! After all the HPTs I have done, especially sensitive FRERs over the last 4 cycles, I can honestly say they scare me to death and I am thrilled you got to see the positive outcome of one.
@kjones202 Sorry to hear about your beta, hoping you are still able to find some joy in this holiday season. Take all the time you need and feel anything and everything you need to feel and we will be here to support you in the future.
Also, thanks everyone for continuing to post and remain so supportive of those few of us finishing off this month. It's definitely been a difficult month for this group, but hopefully the start of 2018 will bring more hope and light for everyone!
AFM, 2dp5dt and just chugging along. Yesterday I was busy with work for most of the day and then my new acupuncturist (which I am trying for the first time this cycle), cancelled on me an hour before my session so I initially was just not going to do it, but then called someone she referred me to and they were able to squeeze me in as their last evening appointment. it was so very different than my Tuesday session, this one much more focused just the acupuncture itself, but also did quite a bit of work on my back which was so nice and relaxing. She also told me to limit my sugar as much as possible. She does a ton of fertility acupuncture, many patients who go into Boston, and she said several have had multiple failures and when they made diet changes (gluten/dairy free or at least low sugar) they saw positive outcomes. With my PCOS, I try hard to follow a lower sugar/carb diet, but it is so hard over the holidays. Oh well, my RE clinic gave me a TWW suggestion/guideline strategy sheet and a few of them focused around doing what we enjoy and not worrying about diet or any other activity as it is completely up the embryo and we need to take care of ourselves during this long waiting period. I loved reading that, because we all stress about supporting and caring for the little embaby(ies) inside of us that we forget to continue living. My RE actually told me that they see better outcomes, based on a large survey study they completed, when women continue with healthy activities that they actually enjoy. He gave some examples: If you like acupuncture do it, if not don't, same with yoga and exercise, only avoid crossfit, hot yoga strenuous exercise. It also suggests to spend time with friends and family you are comfortable with and avoid those who may stress you out, he also said we all have an excuse, "doctor's orders" not to attend any baby showers, especially during this waiting period, but even during our IF journey altogether. I'm trying to think of others...they stress the embryo "will not fall out" no matter what we do." They also share that negative thoughts or worries will not change the outcome so no need to stress that we must stay positive at all times.
Anyway, just wanted to share a few of these with all of you, hopefully they are helpful, either now or in the future. I have researched "strategies to survive the 2 week wait for IVF/FET" in the past and while the research and articles have been good, I was honestly surprised, even laughed and smiled while reading through the 2 page one provided by my clinic. Feel free to PM me if you want me to send you more of their survival instructions.
Hope everyone has a great holiday weekend with your family and friends, I am very grateful to have found this community in 2017 as I don't know what I would have done without all the support and care!
@bethann1022 I love that list! I would love to get a PM with the full list.
You know, it's funny, at first I used to go to baby showers because I felt guilty, but when I started giving myself permission to say no, my life really did get better. There was recently a baby shower for someone in my department who I don't work with and don't know well (I didn't even know his wife was pregnant). A year ago I would have made myself go to it and I would have been so self-pitying, but instead I just skipped it and it felt freeing and wonderful.
Also I have definitely worried about the embryo falling out before, so I appreciate that one especially, @bethann1022! Hugs!
I would love to see the full list @bethann1022. Thanks! Keep chugging along! ;)
Transfer went well! They don't do valium or anything so it's pretty straightforward. DH texted me that he had just driven by the clinic, right as we had finished transfer! How cool is that. We transferred one 5AB from my second retrieval, and the embryologist said s/he was very sticky! Lol which is a good thing!
So I'm one dp5dt today, and so far all I'm feeling is a sore throat and a headache. I really hope I'm not getting sick, because DH was terribly sick last weekend, and it would be kind of crazy if I made it through the whole week of fet prep without getting sick, only to get sick right after transfer. But I accidentally took an Airborne last night without thinking, and then it says not to take it if you're pregnant or breastfeeding before calling your doctor. :# so I'm trying to tell myself it's too early for something like that to matter. But it's hard not to stress. Taking zinc lozenges instrad, and I go in for labs tomorrow.... so I can ask any questions there.
@BusinessWife don't stress out about the airborne and the "don't take without asking your doctor" warning. I do quality assurance for a large pharma company. They are required to put that message on every drug that was not specifically tested and approved by fda for use for pregnant women.( Which is a very expensive research to get done on a drug) so majority of vitamins and supplements chose to put "contact your Dr before use" statement. You should be ok, it is hard not to worry about everything. Hope you feel better soon!
Me 30, DH 39 TTC since Aug 2015, BFP Apr 2017 - late diagnosed EP, right tube removed, left tube scarred. Dx: tubal IF IVF Sept 2017, 7 R, 6M, 6F- 4 blasts, 1 transferred fresh - CP FET #1 Dec 2017- BFN FET #2 Jan 2018- CP FET #3 BFP!!! EDD 12/15/2018!
Thanks @Decemberdoll27. I appreciate the reassurance. ❤ Someone mentioned that it might the be the high dose of vitamin c, apparently can enduce labor in 3rd tri? So not a cause for concern early on... Phew! So much don't know about actually being pregnant tho:/
@BusinessWife congrats on your transfer and the sticky embryo I was so sick for my transfer and the week after. I’m sure I took stuff I wasn’t supposed to. Colds are miserable! So excited for you!!
Me: 36 DH: 33
TTC since June 2016
Me: PCOS DH: Morphology 1%
3 TI with Famera and trigger shots-BFN
3 IUI's with Famera and trigger shots- BFN
IVF August 2017 25 eggs retrieved, 19 mature, 13 fertilized (ICSI), 5 frozen, 3 PGS normal
FET November 2017 Transferred one 6 day blast (a little GIRL) BFP EDD 8/4/18
@BusinessWife Sorry you may be coming down with a cold but the good news is that I've heard cold symptoms shortly after a transfer can actually be a good sign! I've heard so many stories and actually read research, it may indicate your general immune system has lowered as it is busy focusing on accepting that precious embryo! Also, don't worry about the airborne, it is hard to worry about every little thing, and among cold/immune system treatments I would say it's probably one of the safest!
AFM, I am exhausted today, literally slept 10 hours last night and tried to go out and do a few things for short periods today and had to take so many rest breaks. Not sure whether this is a good or bad sign, but hoping tomorrow especially since we are going to DH's family for the day and seeing his extended family in the evening won't be too stressful. Other than exhaustion and sore bbs though (which I didn't have at all until yesterday), no other symptoms and feeling good. I did have off and on cramping for 2 days, but that has completely subsided today. Just trying to take it day by day and not overanalyze anything this cycle. What will be the outcome will be and just hoping to cause as little negative energy and stress along the way as possible (much easier said than done).
My last time @bethann1022 the first symptom I noticed was feeling short of breath. I noticed myself getting winded going upstairs, and I'm like omg I am so out of shape! That or the baby was stealing my oxygen??? Lol not that I know if that's a thing, but hopefully you are listening to your body and getting some good rest. (((Hugs)))
Afm, I hope you're right about the immune system thing! I had had a similar thought except I was like oh gosh, I hope it doesn't ramp up to fight the cold and fight off lil startling, too! :s I woke up warm, which I feel like was similar to last time, but that also makes me nervous bc they told me not to get overheated or dehydrated. And of course the sore throat has me feeling constatly thirsty. Trying to trust the process but I guess deep down, I must be scared I'm going to do something to ruin it this time. :'(
Off to get my progesterone check shortly, and I'm all, "can't I just email you my blood sample? You haven't figured out a way to do this by skype???" No. No they have not. So it's a good thing they are checking, just sucks to drive 30 min each way for one measly vial lol
Ho ho ho, ladies!!!! We got this!! <img alt="" src="https://us.v-cdn.net/5020794/uploads/editor/lu/q92yh98e7kuy.gif"> GL today @AlohaKumu !!!!! ;) ;)
It looks like this is a CP The beta was at 15 for us at 9dp6dt. The doctor said it's not impossible for the levels to rise, but he said it's really unlikely. I want to hope for a Christmas miracle, but I'm feeling pretty crushed.
Me: 35 DH: 28 TTC since June 2016 Azoospermia diagnosis (zero count) Dec 2016 AZFc chromosome microdeletion discovery March 2017 Unsuccessful TESE for DH in August 2017 October 2017 IVF with donor sperm
29R, 24M, 16F, 2d5, 4d6 (6 embryos total) Only 3 could have PGS. 2/3 normal. 5 embies frozen 12/15/17 FET #1 (1 embryo)--CP 2/7/17 FET #2 (2 embryos)--BFN Chronic endometritis diagnosis May 2018
ERA Sept 2018--borderline receptive--12 more hours of progesterone Abnormal SIS Oct 2018 Repeat hysteroscopy Nov 1. Treated recurring endometritis. 12/4/18 FET #3 (2 embryos)--BFN Our journey has come to an end.
@AlohaKumu I am so sorry for the low number! Maybe the embie is just a slow starter. There is still hope! Hang in there!
Me 30, DH 39 TTC since Aug 2015, BFP Apr 2017 - late diagnosed EP, right tube removed, left tube scarred. Dx: tubal IF IVF Sept 2017, 7 R, 6M, 6F- 4 blasts, 1 transferred fresh - CP FET #1 Dec 2017- BFN FET #2 Jan 2018- CP FET #3 BFP!!! EDD 12/15/2018!
@alohakumu- so sorry to see this update. All my prayers going to you for a Christmas miracle. Thinking of you!
History in Spoiler
Age: 32 (same with DH). Together since 2006, Married June 2013 and TTC since August 2015 Diagnosis: Mild Endo, DOR (AMH of 1.5), Poor Quality Eggs/embryos, Displaced Window of Implantation (ERA Post Receptive) March-May 2016: 1 TI and 2 IUIs- BFN June 2016- Laproscopy- found/removed mild endo and confirmed only 1 normal healthy ovary. August 2016- IVF #1 with Antagonist Protocol- Cancelled (2 lead follies), converted to IUI- BFN Oct-Nov 2016- IVF #2 with Estrogen Priming Micro Lupron Protocol, 2 eggs retrieved, day 3 transfer of 1- BFN January 2017- New RE, IVF#3 with Estrogen Priming Antagonist Protocol, 12 eggs, 8 mature, 6 fertilized, 2 day 5 early blasts transferred (none to freeze ), BFN May 2017- Sept 2017- Starting Donor Egg process! Waiting for donor to be available... and then she is pregnant at baseline Oct 2017- Donor #2: 25R, 22M,18F, 12 blasts frozen! Fresh transfer cancelled due to thin lining with fluid Nov 2017- Hysterscopy to remove polyp Dec 2017- DE FET #1 on 12/8 on 2 perfect blasts- BFN and devastated Jan-Mar 2018- ERA #1- Post receptive by 24 hours, ERA #2 RECEPTIVE with 4 days of Progesterone Apr 2018- DE FET cancelled for lining issues Jun 2018- DE FET #2 of two 1AA blasts- first BFP ever! Beta 10dp5dt- 378, Beta 14dp5dt- 2840, Beta 16dp5dt- 4035, beta 18dp5dt- 10916. Due on 2/20 with one baby after a vanishing twin Baby Born born early @ 33.5 weeks due to Pre-e Back for # 2!
@AlohaKumu I'm so sorry that the beta was low. Crossing my fingers that it goes up but I understand having to mentally prepare for the worst. It just sucks.
TTC since August 2014
Me: 41, Him: 43
DX: Unexplained secondary infertility
History: Multiple months of Clomid/Femara End of March 2015: BFP with Femara! Saw heartbeat at 5.5 weeks. M/C at 11 weeks Multiple more months of Femara IUI #1 with Femara and Follistem 75 units: BFN IUI #2 with Follistem 150 units: BFN Dec 2015: 1st IVF. 10 eggs retrieved with 8 eggs fertilized. 5 day transfer of two embryos with 2 frozen embies. BFN January 2016: FET #1 2 embryos: BFN March 2016: 2nd IVF cycle. 4 eggs retrieved with 2 fertilized. Quick two day transfer of both embryos: BFN April/May 2016 IVF #3. 11 eggs retrieved. 10 mature. 7 fertilized. 2 5AA blasts transferred 5/11/2016 BFN September 2016 IVF #4: 17 follicles growing, premature ovulation through Cetrotide. Retrieval cancelled. April 2017 IVF #5: 9 follicles growing, 6 eggs retrieved with 5 fertilized. Transfer of three blasts. BFN June 2017: IVF #6: 2 follicles growing, 5 eggs retrieved with 5 fertilized. Transfer of 5 3-day embryos. Chemical pregnancy. BFN Nov/Dec 2017: Donor egg cycle. 33 eggs retrieved, 26 mature. 26 fertilized.
@AlohaKumu Sorry about your beta number. I hope it turns around, but I understand if you don't want to get your hopes up too high. All the waiting and not knowing is really difficult.
Our beta dropped to 4 today, so the CP is confirmed. Thank you so much for all your love and support. I know that too many of us have been in this position over the past few months. I hope that 2018 is kinder to us all.
Me: 35 DH: 28 TTC since June 2016 Azoospermia diagnosis (zero count) Dec 2016 AZFc chromosome microdeletion discovery March 2017 Unsuccessful TESE for DH in August 2017 October 2017 IVF with donor sperm
29R, 24M, 16F, 2d5, 4d6 (6 embryos total) Only 3 could have PGS. 2/3 normal. 5 embies frozen 12/15/17 FET #1 (1 embryo)--CP 2/7/17 FET #2 (2 embryos)--BFN Chronic endometritis diagnosis May 2018
ERA Sept 2018--borderline receptive--12 more hours of progesterone Abnormal SIS Oct 2018 Repeat hysteroscopy Nov 1. Treated recurring endometritis. 12/4/18 FET #3 (2 embryos)--BFN Our journey has come to an end.
@AlohaKumu I am so sorry for your loss, let's hope 2018 is going to be our year! I propose no CP's in the new year! And no BFN's either! Only BFP's in 2018!
Me 30, DH 39 TTC since Aug 2015, BFP Apr 2017 - late diagnosed EP, right tube removed, left tube scarred. Dx: tubal IF IVF Sept 2017, 7 R, 6M, 6F- 4 blasts, 1 transferred fresh - CP FET #1 Dec 2017- BFN FET #2 Jan 2018- CP FET #3 BFP!!! EDD 12/15/2018!
@AlohaKumu So sorry to hear about your CP, after all the negative outcomes this month, I was really hoping for a few positives to end the month. Hope 2018 brings brighter days and a positive start!
@Businesswife how are you doing? I sent you a PM last night
AFM, trying to be patient and take it day by day, I did pretty well through Christmas. But I also started to get very anxious because each day I was feeling more and more hopeful and I allowed myself to feel that way last cycle and was devastated on 9dp when I did a HPT expecting to see a BFP and it was again negative. I almost tested Christmas morning because I had the crazy idea that if it was positive it would be the best Christmas gift for both my DH and I ever, but then the logical side of me acknowledged it was only 5dp5dt so chances are it would be negative still and very disappointing. However, I have also been with my family a lot the last few days and my parents know about this cycle, so I found myself really discussing openly how excited I was to feel that this was finally our cycle. My new RE gave me so much hope stating he felt like we "found the magic potion." And it made me feel like the stars were finally aligning for us.
I realized quickly Tuesday morning when I woke up that if I did not test before Saturday and my beta was negative it would be the completely devastating and depressing without any warning. Especially if I allowed myself to get more hopeful with each passing day. So I did a HPT, also rationalized that since it was only 6dp5dt that if it was negative it very well could still be early. I did the test, and it of course was negative. Another negative to add to my history of about 30 BFN HPTs without one BFP. But it did help bring me back to reality, which was part of the purpose. I figured if it was positive, I could allow myself to continue to get hopeful and even if disappointed, at least I would know in the end that the embryo tried to implant and my body most likely can get pregnant, it was just a bad embryo. And if negative, which it was, I can still try and remain hopeful because it's early, but also am now realistic that there is a good chance that this chance won't end the way I have been optimistically anticipating. Therefore I can start mentally preparing myself for next cycle, while still holding onto that grain of hope that this little embaby is fighting inside of me. This is a coping mechanism for myself, with 4 previous failed transfers, I have definitely learned that planning ahead is the most helpful strategy for me is to continue moving forward and persevering. I told my DH last night, that one of the most difficult aspects is having to tell him each cycle has failed. I am willing to fight as hard as needed for this, as I am optimistic that eventually we will all come out on the other side. I just hope that this is sooner rather than later as we deserve to be mothers, and I truly hope as @decemberdoll27 said that 2018 is the year of no CPs or negatives us all!
@bethann1022 Hang in there. 6dp5dt is pretty early. I didn't see anything until 8dp5dt. I felt the same way about doing the HPT. I wanted advance warning even though the doctors, my husband and my best friend warned me not too. You know best what works for your emotional well-being.
@bethann1022 I agree it is still very early! Especially depending on what kind of test you are using... what was it? I definitely get wanting to be let down gently ahead of time, or have that reassurance that it's going to be good, either way. (((Hugs)))
Oh you guys, this cold is really awful. I had to go back to work yesterday, but I'm still feeling just wretched. Going to stay in and rest tonight... Had a little spotting today (6dp5dt) which I dont remember having last time, so I'm trying not to think the worst, and just hope that that's a good sign...
You are welcome to come hang out here to warm up, @BusinessWife Hopefully your spotting is a good sign of implantation. I'll be thinking of you and your sproutlet
Me: 35 DH: 28 TTC since June 2016 Azoospermia diagnosis (zero count) Dec 2016 AZFc chromosome microdeletion discovery March 2017 Unsuccessful TESE for DH in August 2017 October 2017 IVF with donor sperm
29R, 24M, 16F, 2d5, 4d6 (6 embryos total) Only 3 could have PGS. 2/3 normal. 5 embies frozen 12/15/17 FET #1 (1 embryo)--CP 2/7/17 FET #2 (2 embryos)--BFN Chronic endometritis diagnosis May 2018
ERA Sept 2018--borderline receptive--12 more hours of progesterone Abnormal SIS Oct 2018 Repeat hysteroscopy Nov 1. Treated recurring endometritis. 12/4/18 FET #3 (2 embryos)--BFN Our journey has come to an end.
So while I will be waiting to make any kind of announcement over on TTGP, I did want to offer a ray of hope to the thread, ❤❤❤ and say, I may have reason to believe this transfer is going much differently than last time. :)
I am doing alright, beta tomorrow morning but won't be listening to results until I am home with DH. My family is in town including my sister from CO so I will be spending most of the day with them but them DH and I will have a date night. I am really trying to hold out some hope as I have felt physically and emotionally different this cycle. Today made me nervous because I had typical PMS symptoms but also realized I never had this in past cycles before beta so who knows? I have been too scared to see another stark white test so haven't had any desire to POAS since 6dp5dt when I saw that BFN. We will see what the final outcome of this cycle will be tomorrow but either way, we will be fine, stay strong and persevere.
@adirat It was rough earlier in the week, but getting some stuff out in the TTCAL thread was really helpful. DH realized that I still need support while I process this. On a happier note, I just got a message from my doctor to expect my February FET calendar today or early this week, so I'm looking forward to kissing 2017 goodbye and welcoming 2018. I'm really hopeful for you and @BusinessWife, especially.
Me: 35 DH: 28 TTC since June 2016 Azoospermia diagnosis (zero count) Dec 2016 AZFc chromosome microdeletion discovery March 2017 Unsuccessful TESE for DH in August 2017 October 2017 IVF with donor sperm
29R, 24M, 16F, 2d5, 4d6 (6 embryos total) Only 3 could have PGS. 2/3 normal. 5 embies frozen 12/15/17 FET #1 (1 embryo)--CP 2/7/17 FET #2 (2 embryos)--BFN Chronic endometritis diagnosis May 2018
ERA Sept 2018--borderline receptive--12 more hours of progesterone Abnormal SIS Oct 2018 Repeat hysteroscopy Nov 1. Treated recurring endometritis. 12/4/18 FET #3 (2 embryos)--BFN Our journey has come to an end.
@adirat I am ok, next transfer is on Jan 15th)) we are ditching lupron, I had endometrial scratch done and we are trying one of our 6 day blasts now. So this cycle is different enough to keep me optimistic. I hear you @AlohaKumu. I am also ready to say good bye to 2017 and start fresh with 2018! @BusinessWife are you saying what I think you are saying?! OMG, how exciting! @bethann1022 I have everything crossed for good news for you today!
Me 30, DH 39 TTC since Aug 2015, BFP Apr 2017 - late diagnosed EP, right tube removed, left tube scarred. Dx: tubal IF IVF Sept 2017, 7 R, 6M, 6F- 4 blasts, 1 transferred fresh - CP FET #1 Dec 2017- BFN FET #2 Jan 2018- CP FET #3 BFP!!! EDD 12/15/2018!
Unfortunately another negative beta today. Progesterone and estrogen were perfect levels so hoping it was just a bad embryo. But this being my 5th failed transfer and second since ERA definitely makes it a little harder to stay optimistic that it's an embryo issue every time.
I am actually feeling really positive going into 2018 though. Glad to get this out of the way and for 2017 to be over. I'm grateful that it's a fresh start. My RE appt is Thursday and I'll also be discussing some changes for next cycle, possibly adding a steroid and transferring 2 at a time. I'm really tired of failed single transfers.
@bethann1022. I'm so sorry for the negative beta. Fx you and your care team comes up with a good plan for a new approach with your next cycle (((hugs)))
Re: December FET
TTC since Aug 2015,
BFP Apr 2017 - late diagnosed EP, right tube removed, left tube scarred.
Dx: tubal IF
IVF Sept 2017, 7 R, 6M, 6F- 4 blasts, 1 transferred fresh - CP
FET #1 Dec 2017- BFN
FET #2 Jan 2018- CP
FET #3 BFP!!! EDD 12/15/2018!
@DecemberDoll27 Happy Birthday! I love being in my 30's, BTW. Don't sweat it. I hope you do something more fun than a scratch for your birthday
@alohakumu- yayyy!! I think you are gonna get the best present on Christmas Eve!
@decemberdoll27- I just turned 30 a few months ago too, so I hear you. But I have to believe that 30 will bring the next adventure that we all want so badly!
Diagnosis: Mild Endo, DOR (AMH of 1.5), Poor Quality Eggs/embryos, Displaced Window of Implantation (ERA Post Receptive)
March-May 2016: 1 TI and 2 IUIs- BFN
June 2016- Laproscopy- found/removed mild endo and confirmed only 1 normal healthy ovary.
August 2016- IVF #1 with Antagonist Protocol- Cancelled (2 lead follies), converted to IUI- BFN
Oct-Nov 2016- IVF #2 with Estrogen Priming Micro Lupron Protocol, 2 eggs retrieved, day 3 transfer of 1- BFN
January 2017- New RE, IVF#3 with Estrogen Priming Antagonist Protocol, 12 eggs, 8 mature, 6 fertilized, 2 day 5 early blasts transferred (none to freeze
May 2017- Sept 2017- Starting Donor Egg process! Waiting for donor to be available... and then she is pregnant at baseline
Oct 2017- Donor #2: 25R, 22M,18F, 12 blasts frozen! Fresh transfer cancelled due to thin lining with fluid
Nov 2017- Hysterscopy to remove polyp
Dec 2017- DE FET #1 on 12/8 on 2 perfect blasts- BFN and devastated
Jan-Mar 2018- ERA #1- Post receptive by 24 hours, ERA #2 RECEPTIVE with 4 days of Progesterone
Apr 2018- DE FET cancelled for lining issues
Jun 2018- DE FET #2 of two 1AA blasts- first BFP ever! Beta 10dp5dt- 378, Beta 14dp5dt- 2840, Beta 16dp5dt- 4035, beta 18dp5dt- 10916. Due on 2/20 with one baby after a vanishing twin
Baby Born born early @ 33.5 weeks due to Pre-e
Back for # 2!
@alohakumu Congrats on the second line on the FRER, so excited for you! After all the HPTs I have done, especially sensitive FRERs over the last 4 cycles, I can honestly say they scare me to death and I am thrilled you got to see the positive outcome of one.
@suziev3 congrats on the positive betas!
@kjones202 Sorry to hear about your beta, hoping you are still able to find some joy in this holiday season. Take all the time you need and feel anything and everything you need to feel and we will be here to support you in the future.
Also, thanks everyone for continuing to post and remain so supportive of those few of us finishing off this month. It's definitely been a difficult month for this group, but hopefully the start of 2018 will bring more hope and light for everyone!
AFM, 2dp5dt and just chugging along. Yesterday I was busy with work for most of the day and then my new acupuncturist (which I am trying for the first time this cycle), cancelled on me an hour before my session so I initially was just not going to do it, but then called someone she referred me to and they were able to squeeze me in as their last evening appointment. it was so very different than my Tuesday session, this one much more focused just the acupuncture itself, but also did quite a bit of work on my back which was so nice and relaxing. She also told me to limit my sugar as much as possible. She does a ton of fertility acupuncture, many patients who go into Boston, and she said several have had multiple failures and when they made diet changes (gluten/dairy free or at least low sugar) they saw positive outcomes. With my PCOS, I try hard to follow a lower sugar/carb diet, but it is so hard over the holidays.
Oh well, my RE clinic gave me a TWW suggestion/guideline strategy sheet and a few of them focused around doing what we enjoy and not worrying about diet or any other activity as it is completely up the embryo and we need to take care of ourselves during this long waiting period. I loved reading that, because we all stress about supporting and caring for the little embaby(ies) inside of us that we forget to continue living. My RE actually told me that they see better outcomes, based on a large survey study they completed, when women continue with healthy activities that they actually enjoy. He gave some examples: If you like acupuncture do it, if not don't, same with yoga and exercise, only avoid crossfit, hot yoga strenuous exercise. It also suggests to spend time with friends and family you are comfortable with and avoid those who may stress you out, he also said we all have an excuse, "doctor's orders" not to attend any baby showers, especially during this waiting period, but even during our IF journey altogether. I'm trying to think of others...they stress the embryo "will not fall out" no matter what we do." They also share that negative thoughts or worries will not change the outcome so no need to stress that we must stay positive at all times.
Anyway, just wanted to share a few of these with all of you, hopefully they are helpful, either now or in the future. I have researched "strategies to survive the 2 week wait for IVF/FET" in the past and while the research and articles have been good, I was honestly surprised, even laughed and smiled while reading through the 2 page one provided by my clinic. Feel free to PM me if you want me to send you more of their survival instructions.
Hope everyone has a great holiday weekend with your family and friends, I am very grateful to have found this community in 2017 as I don't know what I would have done without all the support and care!
You know, it's funny, at first I used to go to baby showers because I felt guilty, but when I started giving myself permission to say no, my life really did get better. There was recently a baby shower for someone in my department who I don't work with and don't know well (I didn't even know his wife was pregnant). A year ago I would have made myself go to it and I would have been so self-pitying, but instead I just skipped it and it felt freeing and wonderful.
Also I have definitely worried about the embryo falling out before, so I appreciate that one especially, @bethann1022! Hugs!
Transfer went well! They don't do valium or anything so it's pretty straightforward. DH texted me that he had just driven by the clinic, right as we had finished transfer! How cool is that. We transferred one 5AB from my second retrieval, and the embryologist said s/he was very sticky! Lol which is a good thing!
@AlohaKumu congrats on that second line.
@BusinessWife Congrats on being PUPO!!! I have a really good feeling about this. I'm getting so excited for you.
So I'm one dp5dt today, and so far all I'm feeling is a sore throat and a headache. I really hope I'm not getting sick, because DH was terribly sick last weekend, and it would be kind of crazy if I made it through the whole week of fet prep without getting sick, only to get sick right after transfer. But I accidentally took an Airborne last night without thinking, and then it says not to take it if you're pregnant or breastfeeding before calling your doctor. :# so I'm trying to tell myself it's too early for something like that to matter. But it's hard not to stress. Taking zinc lozenges instrad, and I go in for labs tomorrow.... so I can ask any questions there.
TTC since Aug 2015,
BFP Apr 2017 - late diagnosed EP, right tube removed, left tube scarred.
Dx: tubal IF
IVF Sept 2017, 7 R, 6M, 6F- 4 blasts, 1 transferred fresh - CP
FET #1 Dec 2017- BFN
FET #2 Jan 2018- CP
FET #3 BFP!!! EDD 12/15/2018!
AFM, I am exhausted today, literally slept 10 hours last night and tried to go out and do a few things for short periods today and had to take so many rest breaks. Not sure whether this is a good or bad sign, but hoping tomorrow especially since we are going to DH's family for the day and seeing his extended family in the evening won't be too stressful. Other than exhaustion and sore bbs though (which I didn't have at all until yesterday), no other symptoms and feeling good. I did have off and on cramping for 2 days, but that has completely subsided today. Just trying to take it day by day and not overanalyze anything this cycle. What will be the outcome will be and just hoping to cause as little negative energy and stress along the way as possible (much easier said than done).
Hope everyone has a great holiday weekend!
Afm, I hope you're right about the immune system thing! I had had a similar thought except I was like oh gosh, I hope it doesn't ramp up to fight the cold and fight off lil startling, too! :s I woke up warm, which I feel like was similar to last time, but that also makes me nervous bc they told me not to get overheated or dehydrated. And of course the sore throat has me feeling constatly thirsty. Trying to trust the process but I guess deep down, I must be scared I'm going to do something to ruin it this time. :'(
Off to get my progesterone check shortly, and I'm all, "can't I just email you my blood sample? You haven't figured out a way to do this by skype???" No. No they have not. So it's a good thing they are checking, just sucks to drive 30 min each way for one measly vial lol
Ho ho ho, ladies!!!! We got this!!
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GL today @AlohaKumu !!!!! ;) ;)
ETA oh how weird, this never posted from before
TTC since June 2016
Azoospermia diagnosis (zero count) Dec 2016
AZFc chromosome microdeletion discovery March 2017
Unsuccessful TESE for DH in August 2017
October 2017 IVF with donor sperm
29R, 24M, 16F, 2d5, 4d6 (6 embryos total)
Only 3 could have PGS. 2/3 normal. 5 embies frozen
12/15/17 FET #1 (1 embryo)--CP
2/7/17 FET #2 (2 embryos)--BFN
Chronic endometritis diagnosis May 2018
ERA Sept 2018--borderline receptive--12 more hours of progesterone
Abnormal SIS Oct 2018
Repeat hysteroscopy Nov 1. Treated recurring endometritis.
12/4/18 FET #3 (2 embryos)--BFN
Our journey has come to an end.
TTC since Aug 2015,
BFP Apr 2017 - late diagnosed EP, right tube removed, left tube scarred.
Dx: tubal IF
IVF Sept 2017, 7 R, 6M, 6F- 4 blasts, 1 transferred fresh - CP
FET #1 Dec 2017- BFN
FET #2 Jan 2018- CP
FET #3 BFP!!! EDD 12/15/2018!
Diagnosis: Mild Endo, DOR (AMH of 1.5), Poor Quality Eggs/embryos, Displaced Window of Implantation (ERA Post Receptive)
March-May 2016: 1 TI and 2 IUIs- BFN
June 2016- Laproscopy- found/removed mild endo and confirmed only 1 normal healthy ovary.
August 2016- IVF #1 with Antagonist Protocol- Cancelled (2 lead follies), converted to IUI- BFN
Oct-Nov 2016- IVF #2 with Estrogen Priming Micro Lupron Protocol, 2 eggs retrieved, day 3 transfer of 1- BFN
January 2017- New RE, IVF#3 with Estrogen Priming Antagonist Protocol, 12 eggs, 8 mature, 6 fertilized, 2 day 5 early blasts transferred (none to freeze
May 2017- Sept 2017- Starting Donor Egg process! Waiting for donor to be available... and then she is pregnant at baseline
Oct 2017- Donor #2: 25R, 22M,18F, 12 blasts frozen! Fresh transfer cancelled due to thin lining with fluid
Nov 2017- Hysterscopy to remove polyp
Dec 2017- DE FET #1 on 12/8 on 2 perfect blasts- BFN and devastated
Jan-Mar 2018- ERA #1- Post receptive by 24 hours, ERA #2 RECEPTIVE with 4 days of Progesterone
Apr 2018- DE FET cancelled for lining issues
Jun 2018- DE FET #2 of two 1AA blasts- first BFP ever! Beta 10dp5dt- 378, Beta 14dp5dt- 2840, Beta 16dp5dt- 4035, beta 18dp5dt- 10916. Due on 2/20 with one baby after a vanishing twin
Baby Born born early @ 33.5 weeks due to Pre-e
Back for # 2!
Multiple months of Clomid/Femara
End of March 2015: BFP with Femara! Saw heartbeat at 5.5 weeks. M/C at 11 weeks
Multiple more months of Femara
IUI #1 with Femara and Follistem 75 units: BFN
IUI #2 with Follistem 150 units: BFN
Dec 2015: 1st IVF. 10 eggs retrieved with 8 eggs fertilized. 5 day transfer of two embryos with 2 frozen embies. BFN
January 2016: FET #1 2 embryos: BFN
March 2016: 2nd IVF cycle. 4 eggs retrieved with 2 fertilized. Quick two day transfer of both embryos: BFN
April/May 2016 IVF #3. 11 eggs retrieved. 10 mature. 7 fertilized. 2 5AA blasts transferred 5/11/2016 BFN
September 2016 IVF #4: 17 follicles growing, premature ovulation through Cetrotide. Retrieval cancelled.
April 2017 IVF #5: 9 follicles growing, 6 eggs retrieved with 5 fertilized. Transfer of three blasts. BFN
June 2017: IVF #6: 2 follicles growing, 5 eggs retrieved with 5 fertilized. Transfer of 5 3-day embryos. Chemical pregnancy. BFN
Nov/Dec 2017: Donor egg cycle. 33 eggs retrieved, 26 mature. 26 fertilized.
TTC since June 2016
Azoospermia diagnosis (zero count) Dec 2016
AZFc chromosome microdeletion discovery March 2017
Unsuccessful TESE for DH in August 2017
October 2017 IVF with donor sperm
29R, 24M, 16F, 2d5, 4d6 (6 embryos total)
Only 3 could have PGS. 2/3 normal. 5 embies frozen
12/15/17 FET #1 (1 embryo)--CP
2/7/17 FET #2 (2 embryos)--BFN
Chronic endometritis diagnosis May 2018
ERA Sept 2018--borderline receptive--12 more hours of progesterone
Abnormal SIS Oct 2018
Repeat hysteroscopy Nov 1. Treated recurring endometritis.
12/4/18 FET #3 (2 embryos)--BFN
Our journey has come to an end.
TTC since Aug 2015,
BFP Apr 2017 - late diagnosed EP, right tube removed, left tube scarred.
Dx: tubal IF
IVF Sept 2017, 7 R, 6M, 6F- 4 blasts, 1 transferred fresh - CP
FET #1 Dec 2017- BFN
FET #2 Jan 2018- CP
FET #3 BFP!!! EDD 12/15/2018!
So many hugs to all you ladies
@Businesswife how are you doing? I sent you a PM last night
AFM, trying to be patient and take it day by day, I did pretty well through Christmas. But I also started to get very anxious because each day I was feeling more and more hopeful and I allowed myself to feel that way last cycle and was devastated on 9dp when I did a HPT expecting to see a BFP and it was again negative. I almost tested Christmas morning because I had the crazy idea that if it was positive it would be the best Christmas gift for both my DH and I ever, but then the logical side of me acknowledged it was only 5dp5dt so chances are it would be negative still and very disappointing. However, I have also been with my family a lot the last few days and my parents know about this cycle, so I found myself really discussing openly how excited I was to feel that this was finally our cycle. My new RE gave me so much hope stating he felt like we "found the magic potion." And it made me feel like the stars were finally aligning for us.
I realized quickly Tuesday morning when I woke up that if I did not test before Saturday and my beta was negative it would be the completely devastating and depressing without any warning. Especially if I allowed myself to get more hopeful with each passing day. So I did a HPT, also rationalized that since it was only 6dp5dt that if it was negative it very well could still be early. I did the test, and it of course was negative. Another negative to add to my history of about 30 BFN HPTs without one BFP. But it did help bring me back to reality, which was part of the purpose. I figured if it was positive, I could allow myself to continue to get hopeful and even if disappointed, at least I would know in the end that the embryo tried to implant and my body most likely can get pregnant, it was just a bad embryo. And if negative, which it was, I can still try and remain hopeful because it's early, but also am now realistic that there is a good chance that this chance won't end the way I have been optimistically anticipating. Therefore I can start mentally preparing myself for next cycle, while still holding onto that grain of hope that this little embaby is fighting inside of me. This is a coping mechanism for myself, with 4 previous failed transfers, I have definitely learned that planning ahead is the most helpful strategy for me is to continue moving forward and persevering. I told my DH last night, that one of the most difficult aspects is having to tell him each cycle has failed. I am willing to fight as hard as needed for this, as I am optimistic that eventually we will all come out on the other side. I just hope that this is sooner rather than later as we deserve to be mothers, and I truly hope as @decemberdoll27 said that 2018 is the year of no CPs or negatives us all!
TTC since June 2016
Azoospermia diagnosis (zero count) Dec 2016
AZFc chromosome microdeletion discovery March 2017
Unsuccessful TESE for DH in August 2017
October 2017 IVF with donor sperm
29R, 24M, 16F, 2d5, 4d6 (6 embryos total)
Only 3 could have PGS. 2/3 normal. 5 embies frozen
12/15/17 FET #1 (1 embryo)--CP
2/7/17 FET #2 (2 embryos)--BFN
Chronic endometritis diagnosis May 2018
ERA Sept 2018--borderline receptive--12 more hours of progesterone
Abnormal SIS Oct 2018
Repeat hysteroscopy Nov 1. Treated recurring endometritis.
12/4/18 FET #3 (2 embryos)--BFN
Our journey has come to an end.
@adirat. Hope transfer went beautifully today!
@bethann1022 How are you holding up?
@adirat how did your transfer go?
I am doing alright, beta tomorrow morning but won't be listening to results until I am home with DH. My family is in town including my sister from CO so I will be spending most of the day with them but them DH and I will have a date night. I am really trying to hold out some hope as I have felt physically and emotionally different this cycle. Today made me nervous because I had typical PMS symptoms but also realized I never had this in past cycles before beta so who knows? I have been too scared to see another stark white test so haven't had any desire to POAS since 6dp5dt when I saw that BFN. We will see what the final outcome of this cycle will be tomorrow but either way, we will be fine, stay strong and persevere.
@alohakumu @DecemberDoll27 How are you guys doing?
AFM - transfer went smoothly; the embryo was even starting to hatch! I hope this one goes better than last time.
TTC since June 2016
Azoospermia diagnosis (zero count) Dec 2016
AZFc chromosome microdeletion discovery March 2017
Unsuccessful TESE for DH in August 2017
October 2017 IVF with donor sperm
29R, 24M, 16F, 2d5, 4d6 (6 embryos total)
Only 3 could have PGS. 2/3 normal. 5 embies frozen
12/15/17 FET #1 (1 embryo)--CP
2/7/17 FET #2 (2 embryos)--BFN
Chronic endometritis diagnosis May 2018
ERA Sept 2018--borderline receptive--12 more hours of progesterone
Abnormal SIS Oct 2018
Repeat hysteroscopy Nov 1. Treated recurring endometritis.
12/4/18 FET #3 (2 embryos)--BFN
Our journey has come to an end.
I hear you @AlohaKumu. I am also ready to say good bye to 2017 and start fresh with 2018!
@BusinessWife are you saying what I think you are saying?! OMG, how exciting!
@bethann1022 I have everything crossed for good news for you today!
TTC since Aug 2015,
BFP Apr 2017 - late diagnosed EP, right tube removed, left tube scarred.
Dx: tubal IF
IVF Sept 2017, 7 R, 6M, 6F- 4 blasts, 1 transferred fresh - CP
FET #1 Dec 2017- BFN
FET #2 Jan 2018- CP
FET #3 BFP!!! EDD 12/15/2018!
@BusinessWife Your news is so wonderful! I'll be waiting for more of it.
@bethann1022 I'm also keeping my fingers crossed for you. Hang in there.
I am actually feeling really positive going into 2018 though. Glad to get this out of the way and for 2017 to be over. I'm grateful that it's a fresh start. My RE appt is Thursday and I'll also be discussing some changes for next cycle, possibly adding a steroid and transferring 2 at a time. I'm really tired of failed single transfers.
@businesswife can't wait for your beta!