I keep telling myself next week I'm going to try LO in her crib... But I can never seem to. We love sleeping next to her and I'm afraid I'd miss her too much... Plus the trouble of having to "train" her to be content there.. It's so overwhelming!
I would say do what works for you especially if you are all sleeping well. We co sleep sometimes like a nap here and there to make sure she takes a long nap or if I fall asleep after nursing. For the most part she is in her own space because I do have that fear that we would never be able to get her out of our bed. Maybe start off slow and start her in the crib for the night and then bring her in your room for the second part of the night (if she's waking to nurse).
We have LO sleeping in her crib in our room. Before that she slept in a rock and play next to my side of the bed. I'm hoping it'll make the transition easier when it's time for her to be in her own space.
@kvruns we used the suit for just a little while after he started rolling and he never rolled over in the suit. He doesn't roll belly to back yet but changed him to the zipadeezip where it does let them roll over, even though he doesn't in his sleep.
For moms that have sleep trained or have babies that can put themselves to sleep, do you always have to get them drowsy and then lay them down? Or at some point are you able to lay them down awake and they do the work themselves? Obviously they do at some point because I'm sure most 3 year olds don't need to be rocked until almost asleep, but how long does that usually take?
@Ladybug2821 we try to get A in a good mood and wear her out before bed. That means nursing, playing and rocking until she starts rubbing her eyes. I change her diaper, rock a little bit more and then put her in her sleep suit. I read a story to her, I talk in a high pitched voice to keep her happy and then walk out. She's generally happy in her crib and pretty chill; she'll suck her thumb and babble and then pass out.
We just started sleep training this past week (she's 6 months today) and I have been feeding her, the giving her a bath which makes her sleepy, then reading a book or two before I put her down. She fusses herself to sleep, but not more than 15 minutes.
I wish S would do that. The moment you set her down she's crying, not fussing, but full out crying. I think she is playing us though because she has been able to put herself to sleep after waking prematurely. I'm waiting until Memorial Day weekend to do sleep training. I'll have additional time off and she won't be going through any leaps then.
Good luck, I really think it's about when the baby is ready to sleep through the night. Whenshe cries when you put her down, do you stay with her until she calms down? If A gets overtired, she'll cry as soon as we lay her down. I stay with her, put my hand on her chest, read more books, sing, do whatever it takes (short of taking her out of the crib) until she calms down. And then that's not even fully chilled out, it's more of a quivering than a full on sob.
Last night I put her down (without doing our routine) and she was out in 5 minutes with no crying. I honestly didn't think she was tired. I do Put her down if she's drowsy or not. I notice it's more of the routine of naps. she had a longer evening nap so I put her to bed at 10pm. Sometimes her naps aren't as long during the day and she gets fussy and goes to bed between 8 and 9. I think the more tired she is the more she cries it out.
Good luck, I really think it's about when the baby is ready to sleep through the night. Whenshe cries when you put her down, do you stay with her until she calms down? If A gets overtired, she'll cry as soon as we lay her down. I stay with her, put my hand on her chest, read more books, sing, do whatever it takes (short of taking her out of the crib) until she calms down. And then that's not even fully chilled out, it's more of a quivering than a full on sob.
I've stayed and tried to calm her down and I've left the room to see if she would cry herself to sleep (not for very long though because back then I couldn't do the CIO thing). It has been awhile since I tried so I might give it a go tonight and see how she does.
Are you doing naps the same way? Or are you having to rock to sleep? We had a sitter for the first time today while both H and I had to work during the day. S wore her out as she does us. She said we are doing too much rocking when putting her down for a nap. H didn't ask her what she thinks we should be doing though. This sleep thing is tough and its really starting to wear on me.
@Ladybug2821 A is in daycare so I honestly don't know how they get her to nap. On the weekends, I follow the same routine but don't read a book. I realized tonight when I rock her, I play the same two songs every night. I think that does most of the work because she now associates the songs with sleep and as soon as they come on, she starts rubbing her eyes.
@RhodaMorgenstern I play the same music every night also. Maybe she's just not ready to do it easily. I tried tonight and it was mostly a fail. I did end up having to rock her to sleep. But she woke up an hour later and I let her cry. I give her a 10 min time limit. It had been 10 mins and I was walking to the door when she stopped. So she can do it, it just might take a good bit of crying. We have the same routine every night. I sing to her while I'm changing her, give her a little massage and put her in her pj's. Then nurse in the dark room and then rock her. Sometimes she fights and other times she doesn't. I'll continue to try drowsy but awake but when Memorial Day rolls around, it'll be time to get serious.
@Ladybug2821 at least you know she can fall asleep on her own so you can really commit to it come Memorial Day. It's not easy but you do whatever saves your sanity. Good luck!
Is my LO the only one getting stuck on his belly at night? Sometimes he will sleep that way but usually just gets mad. He also coughs a ton on his belly
@kvruns my LO gets so mad on his belly and doesn't know how to turn back! He's been sleeping on his side this week but hasn't been sleeping through the night like he was before because of this knew rolling talent lol
I think we talked about the dreaded 5 am wake up before. Has anyone been able to overcome that? No matter what, S wakes up at that time. Sometimes I can get her back to sleep but other times I can't which is a super early start to the day. Pedi said sleep training will stop that but has that held true for anyone? Sleep training is already planned for the end of the month but I'm just wondering if it helped.
I think we talked about the dreaded 5 am wake up before. Has anyone been able to overcome that? No matter what, S wakes up at that time. Sometimes I can get her back to sleep but other times I can't which is a super early start to the day. Pedi said sleep training will stop that but has that held true for anyone? Sleep training is already planned for the end of the month but I'm just wondering if it helped.
We change LO diaper and put him back in the crib with a toy. Sometimes he passes out, other times he quietly plays for an hour.
LO used to sleep until 6-6:30 at least! Now it's 5am no matter what. He's on solids, but I feel like when we started solids is when his 5am mornings started! I don't feel like we need to sleep train because he usually sleeps through the night except for the maybe one wake up at 10pm or 4am because he rolled over and doesn't know how to get back yet. I was also thinking maybe this is part of a leap?
I think my LO is on a sleep strike. And it is so hard to try to get him back to sleep. Might have to re/train but I feel like every new phase sort of undoes my previous success
I think my LO is on a sleep strike. And it is so hard to try to get him back to sleep. Might have to re/train but I feel like every new phase sort of undoes my previous success
This is my MIL's argument for not sleep training, because every growth spurt, sickness, leap etc. undos all that work. I'm going to do it anyway. I can't keep dealing with no naps, early wake ups (5:30 the past five days) and an overall grouchy baby.
I picked my sleep training date based on her not going through any leaps or growth spurts during that time frame. She'll probably go through a leap/regression/growth spurt around 9 months but I'm hoping that the sleep training will actually help her (and me) get through that easier. Also for when she is teething. If I have to retrain after than I expect it would be easier because there would still be some memory of it.
Not to be a naysayer but with my DD she stuck to 5am, 5:30 wake ups for almost three years. Sometimes you just can't reset their internal clocks. I finally had to just come to terms with it. Now she will sleep until 6:30-7 but it took a long time to get there. Just don't make your life miserable trying to fight it too hard. Good luck!
Mine just hopped aboard the 5am train these last couple of days. Before that it was 630/7. Then again I just celebrated 5 hours of uninterrupted sleep like it was awesome when until 2 weeks ago he was regularly going 10-11 hours. My how things change quickly. Hope they change back.
I think my LO is on a sleep strike. And it is so hard to try to get him back to sleep. Might have to re/train but I feel like every new phase sort of undoes my previous success
What type of sleep training did you do? Do you use any kind of white noise or lullaby music? Right now I run the humidifier and keep lullaby music in all night but I'm wondering if I should do away with the music when sleep training so it's not a sleep crutch. Or keep it because it will help her to soothe herself back to sleep.
@ladybug2821 we did training around 1 month because he would not sleep unless held. I don't even remember the name of the book. The gist was creating a schedule and then doing the 3 min/5 min soothing. He took to it great but each milestone has set it back - so having to have arms swaddled out messed him up, then brief 4 month regression, now it is rolling over and getting stuck. So I don't really do the soothing anymore bc it won't work, he just screams but I do try for a schedule as much as possible
i do white noise machine which seems to help but he's also slept elsewhere without sound so not sure of it really helps but I don't think it hurts.
I think my LO is on a sleep strike. And it is so hard to try to get him back to sleep. Might have to re/train but I feel like every new phase sort of undoes my previous success
What type of sleep training did you do? Do you use any kind of white noise or lullaby music? Right now I run the humidifier and keep lullaby music in all night but I'm wondering if I should do away with the music when sleep training so it's not a sleep crutch. Or keep it because it will help her to soothe herself back to sleep.
As they become more aware, wouldn't the music actually distract or keep them up?
When I sleep trained my first I was really into reading about schedules and naps as they say that is usually the cause of night issues. I remember them saying that early wake ups were usually from an overtired baby who needs to go to bed earlier. If your sure bedtime is appropriate and baby is napping well, then try extending the amount of wake time between naps. And I remember reading to leave baby in crib so they know it's not time to get up yet, which is part of sleep training
@erniebernie1 S already goes to bed between 6:30-7 so any earlier would just be too early to me. I've tried leaving her there but that hasn't worked either. Her naps have definitely improved so I don't think she's overtired. If anything I'm starting to think her total time of naps might be too much so we should work on extending her wake time. We follow her sleepy cues though so I'm not sure extending will help. It might just cause her to be overtired and fussy for naps.
@Ladybug2821 I think it's normal for them to be a little overtired once you start extending wake times, until they adjust. Maybe just try extending it 10 minutes every few days? I found the babycenter sleep board to be really helpful for me. They have info on different types of sleep training as well as schedules for each age, it helped me not to feel so lost! That being said with this baby I learned my lesson and have been putting him down awake from the beginning, but he is still up every 2-3 hours at night! There's no one magic solution for each baby.
For people looking for a white noise machine look into this... Marpac Dohm-DS All Natural Sound Machine, White https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HD0ELFK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_JbtezbREC4GMY I have one for each kid and it's awesome. It's just a fan sound that can be quiet or loud. It doesn't blow air, it plugs in so it won't time out after 45 mins or whatever. I love it. It totally muffles the sounds from the rest of the house too so you aren't walking on eggshells while they sleep.
Ok. What the heck?! LO used to sleep 7:00-6:30 every night no problem. Now all of a sudden he's up at 5:00. He also is up a couple times a night. I'm now up with him the second time and it's only midnight. Ah!
Ok. What the heck?! LO used to sleep 7:00-6:30 every night no problem. Now all of a sudden he's up at 5:00. He also is up a couple times a night. I'm now up with him the second time and it's only midnight. Ah!
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Good luck with whatever you decide to do!
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For moms that have sleep trained or have babies that can put themselves to sleep, do you always have to get them drowsy and then lay them down? Or at some point are you able to lay them down awake and they do the work themselves? Obviously they do at some point because I'm sure most 3 year olds don't need to be rocked until almost asleep, but how long does that usually take?
I've stayed and tried to calm her down and I've left the room to see if she would cry herself to sleep (not for very long though because back then I couldn't do the CIO thing). It has been awhile since I tried so I might give it a go tonight and see how she does.
Are you doing naps the same way? Or are you having to rock to sleep? We had a sitter for the first time today while both H and I had to work during the day. S wore her out as she does us. She said we are doing too much rocking when putting her down for a nap. H didn't ask her what she thinks we should be doing though. This sleep thing is tough and its really starting to wear on me.
Welcomed baby girl: 06.10.14
Second pregnancy EDD: 06.16.16 MC: 10.29.15
Welcomed baby boy: 11.25.16
i do white noise machine which seems to help but he's also slept elsewhere without sound so not sure of it really helps but I don't think it hurts.
Welcomed baby girl: 06.10.14
Second pregnancy EDD: 06.16.16 MC: 10.29.15
Welcomed baby boy: 11.25.16
Marpac Dohm-DS All Natural Sound Machine, White https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HD0ELFK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_JbtezbREC4GMY
I have one for each kid and it's awesome. It's just a fan sound that can be quiet or loud. It doesn't blow air, it plugs in so it won't time out after 45 mins or whatever. I love it. It totally muffles the sounds from the rest of the house too so you aren't walking on eggshells while they sleep.