On a random note, has anyone seen the video of the little girl & her dad recreating the lantern song from Tangled? Oh my hormones!!! It's so incredibly sweet, I was a sobbing mess watching it! My son is obsessed with that song from the movie and fell in love with the video!
Totally with you @blush64. I'll have a conversation about boosters with our immediate families, but that stuff doesn't belong on FB.
A few years ago, a friend with a new baby emailed a huge chunk of friends to warn them that if they wanted to see her, they had to be comfortable seeing her breastfeed. It seemed so condescending to me. Of course I'm fine with her feeding her child! I hated the implication that I wouldn't be. That stuff should be a private conversation, not public or en mass.
Can I just say I am so glad to be part of a discussion about the flu shot and TDAP vaccine where everyone is supportive of it! I have had so many ridiculous discussions with friends and acquaintances that are anti-vax (is this mainly an LA thing?) and am so sick of it. I'm just glad to see this rational discussion. I have one concern about my mom who is a cancer patient recovering from a stem cell transplant and so she doesn't have any immunity, and she will be visiting right after I have the baby. I am a little concerned since she doesn't have any immunity and will be travelling on a plane to visit, that she could get something that could be passed to the baby... I don't know if I'm being paranoid, but I'll have to ask my doctor about it.
I'm iffy on the flu shot too. I'm not one of the crazy anti-vax hipsters, but I've never had one. I had the flu once several years ago but I've managed to avoid it since. H is required to get one annually because he's in the military, but I'm just not sure. I suppose it couldn't hurt as long as it's mercury free.
I also have a hard time with requiring family members to get the shot. I just don't feel like they would go for that at all, I can't even get my grandma to stop smoking around me while pregnant. She is appalled that her doctors even suggested she quit smoking during her pregnancies and that seems to justify her smoking around me, at least in her mind. My MIL has colonized MRSA and it terrifies me. I don't want her touching my baby at all. And she's ALWAYS sweaty, it grosses me out. DH and I are banking that she won't be able to afford to make the drive up here from Florida and we just won't tell her anything until after baby is born. I also have two young cousins (ages 10 and 5) who are very excited about baby and are obviously going to want to see her, but public school children in the middle of cold season worries me too. I already know there's absolutely no way their parents or the kids would understand my reason for wanting to keep baby away from small children for a little while.
@blush64 she is a bit of a fb over-sharer in general, so I wasn't surprised that she took to that method. I personally wouldn't go about it that way, but it seemed to work for her. I chuckled, liked, and kept scrolling, because I'm not planning on visiting anytime soon. I'm curious to see her mommyhood unfold on FB, and how much her stance in things may change/evolve over time.
So, FFTC, and please flame me for it if you have legitimate "you're dumb" evidence. I am not getting the flu shot.
****TW loss mentioned****
In Oct, we found out we were expecting. I got the flu shot at my OB's recommendation. I had a weird reaction to it and three weeks later, we found out the baby stopped developing at exactly the time I'd gotten the shot. The vaccine stays with you for approximately six months...which is precisely how long it took us to conceive again despite temping and using OPKs. These coincidences have me on edge.
I am NOT anti vax, so this is a weird feeling for me, but I feel such a strong gut feeling against the flu shot for me. DH has already gotten his to keep it out of the house. But I have been doing some research and can't get over: (1) the drastic change in flu shot recommendations in 97 and again in 04; (2) how can someone ethically do traditional blind studies on pregnant women to test the safety of flu shots given the potentially very real implications; (3) the strain of the flu they choose for the vaccine has to be correct in order for the shot to be effective, and if it's not the correct strain, you're screwed; and (4) I've never had the true flu despite working in flu cess pools, and it's not like the shot stops you from getting bad colds.
DH has independently done his research and agrees with my decision...but please, flame away.
@LivingLaVidaGinger dear goodness the MRSA would terrify me.. seriously that would be a big flag for me. Sorry mom, here are your gloves and body suit before holding baby. I was hospitalized from staph before and thankfully it wasn't MRSA. While waiting for the culture to come back in my stain, the precautions they took For MRSA were intense: isolated room, booties, body suits. I felt like biohazardous material until they got the results.
I'm so sorry for your loss and understand why you would be hesitant/not want to get the flu shot. I'm just curious, when you say you had a weird reaction to the shot, what do you mean? Did you get sick, or something else?
@LivingLaVidaGinger It's not about you getting the flu shot, it's the baby getting protection from it. They can't get a flu shot until 6 months and by then we will already be out of flu season. Having a sick newborn is no joke, they need all the help they can get.
I am a little concerned since she doesn't have any immunity and will be travelling on a plane to visit, that she could get something that could be passed to the baby... I don't know if I'm being paranoid, but I'll have to ask my doctor about it.
Can you maybe ask your doctor about this? Or perhaps she could ask her doctor? I'm wondering if there's a relatively short incubation period for her if maybe she could hang out at a hotel or a cousin's house for a day or two and only see baby once it's clear she hasn't brought any bad bugs with her?
I'm so sorry for your loss and understand why you would be hesitant/not want to get the flu shot. I'm just curious, when you say you had a weird reaction to the shot, what do you mean? Did you get sick, or something else?
I was trying to avoid saying so people didn't read into their symptoms. I lost almost all movement in the arm that I got the flu shot in. It took nearly a month to get full range of motion back. I'd never experienced that kind of reaction to a flu shot.
@Patience7150 firstly, I am so sorry for your loss. I really can't imagine how difficult that must've been.
I will be getting my vax, however I'm not here to flame you for your decision. What we do during our pregnancies is obviously different depending on the person and circumstances. Having had your prior reaction, I would probably feel the same way you do. Wishing you a happy and healthy rest of your pregnancy.
And on another note I wish I could not get colds! Every time a bug went around my work, I would always end up getting it from someone. Then again we used the same microscopes, and lab equipment, so I'm sure we were just bathing ourselves in each other's germs.
Thanks @Amber_Waves I am going to have my mom check with her oncologist/transplant team and I'll mention to my doctor as well. I think the incubation period sounds like a good idea. They may also have her take some precautions, like wearing a mask on the plane, etc. She has had to do that at certain times during her treatment when in crowded/public spaces so that she doesn't get ill either.
@Patience7150 I'm sorry for your loss, and considering your experience with the shot, it is completely understandable why you don't want it again. No flames here!
I've started researching Bradley classes in my area. I think I've been putting it off, because it seems to soon to be thinking about labor! I barely feel somewhat normal and like I can enjoy this pregnancy most of the time... it's already time to start talking about labor?!
@PerraSucia I always wonder what they are thinking when they film that. Do they understand what they're getting into? Are they trying not to laugh? Are they getting pissed off?
Whooping cough is the one I'm insisting close friends and family get before visiting. There's an outbreak in my area right now, and I'm not fucking around with that. For the flu shot, I'm not going to demand it, but I am going to be mentioning it during the TDaP convo, and also asking everyone before they come visit if they or anyone in their house has been feeling under the weather lately. And if they lie and say no, then show up looking like a coughing, hacking mess, then they don't get to see the baby.
I'll be getting the flu shot myself, but I know the strain formulation is always only a best guess, so it doesn't guarantee people will avoid the flu even if they do get it, so I'd much rather put some accountability on people visiting and hope they take some responsibility for their actions. There are some people who won't (or they'll be so damn anxious to see the baby that they'll be lying to themselves about their health), but we can't live in a bubble. I mean, we can get damn close, but apparently grandparents and aunts and uncles want to meet the baby at some point...
I don't think MRSA is as serious as the hype... my son has had it twice and it just means we have to treat with antibiotic Y instead of X. And his ped says he does/probably colonizes it too, but it doesn't affect our lives in any way...
side note: he was in the nicu after birth and we wonder if that's where it came from...
@MommaBean true for most, but it can become a problem when your body doesn't respond to certain antibiotics. If I ever get MRSA I'm screwed because my body doesn't respond to the MRSA recommended antibiotics. Unfortunately I'm prone to staph thanks to a bad infection from stage makeup in high school, and various times doctors have tried different abx but the only one I respond to is Keflex. Yes it can be treated but antibiotics can suck for little tummys. Not saying that anyone who colonizes MRSA is off limits, but I would take precautions.
The MIL actually gave MRSA to one of her other grandchildren (DH's sister's kid) and mil has giant gaping holes in both legs at the ankles that are still *gross warning* very oozy and not well taken care of so that's where a lot of my worry comes from.
The MIL actually gave MRSA to one of her other grandchildren (DH's sister's kid) and mil has giant gaping holes in both legs at the ankles that are still *gross warning* very oozy and not well taken care of so that's where a lot of my
As a health care worker I do not and will not be getting the flu shot pregnant or not. I am not anti vax and definitely believe in most of the childhood vaccines. I do not trust vaccines that they tinker with and guess on annually. I also would not get a new vaccine unless the benefits outweigh the risks. For example, Guardasil and the varicella vaccine are no goes for at least 10 more years in my personal opinion. I want more data on long term effects. But if I had to go to Libya and there was an ebola vaccine I'd probably get it.
Regarding mrsa, about 1/3 of people are carriers...bacteria is on us and we can't choose which kind colonizes our skin. Only becomes a problem in an immunocompromused situation which is why you are in isolation in the hospital even if you are healthy, that nurse can't risk spreading it to a different patient. In everyday life mrsa is NBD.
Nope, but I don't have direct patient contact either. To each their own. Hand hygiene and proper sneezing/coughing technique will do much more for you than having a shot that only protects you from 3 strains of last year's flu in the shot that have most likely mutated already.
Had the weirdest dream about pregnancy. Dreamed I was pregnant with twins (definitely not) and then suddenly I woke up in a hospital room and I had had a CS and no memory of labor or said CS. I asked my parents to see my kids and they said I didn't need to see them yet, they were sleeping and didn't need to nurse yet (WTF). I lost it and started shouting at my dad to bring me my kids NOW. Then he turns up with one baby. Who is 6+ months old because it can sit by itself, hello. With admittedly adorable blond curls, but where are my twins and whose baby is this? And just as I was about to freak out, I was in the middle of some kind of 50s era neighborhood where everyone was a serial killer and I had to act normal because as soon as they knew I knew what they were I would get killed. So I needed to find a car to get me out of that place (and find the 6m old baby, weirdly. I wasn't bothered about the twins).
Nope, but I don't have direct patient contact either. To each their own. Hand hygiene and proper sneezing/coughing technique will do much more for you than having a shot that only protects you from 3 strains of last year's flu in the shot that have most likely mutated already.
When I worked at the hospital in Boston I didn't have patient contact (lowly researcher over here) but they were very very pushy about the vaccine. Can't say I minded.
I agree that MRSA doesn't have to be scary. DD got it when she was just turning a year old. It was open and seeping, but it was under her diaper. They cleared the infant room at daycare, had the cleaning crew bleach/disinfect everything, and that was that. I warned everyone before her 1st birthday party (because it was a bunch of one year olds coming) and it actually didn't stop anyone from showing up! She hasn't had a sign of it since (although it's still in her system).
Re: Weekly Randoms (9/19)
My son is obsessed with that song from the movie and fell in love with the video!
A few years ago, a friend with a new baby emailed a huge chunk of friends to warn them that if they wanted to see her, they had to be comfortable seeing her breastfeed. It seemed so condescending to me. Of course I'm fine with her feeding her child! I hated the implication that I wouldn't be. That stuff should be a private conversation, not public or en mass.
Married: 10/10
EDD: 8/27/16 MMC 1/16
Rainbow Boy: 2/04/17
TTC: 4/18 BFP: 1/2/19
EDD: 9/6/19
I also have a hard time with requiring family members to get the shot. I just don't feel like they would go for that at all, I can't even get my grandma to stop smoking around me while pregnant. She is appalled that her doctors even suggested she quit smoking during her pregnancies and that seems to justify her smoking around me, at least in her mind. My MIL has colonized MRSA and it terrifies me. I don't want her touching my baby at all. And she's ALWAYS sweaty, it grosses me out. DH and I are banking that she won't be able to afford to make the drive up here from Florida and we just won't tell her anything until after baby is born. I also have two young cousins (ages 10 and 5) who are very excited about baby and are obviously going to want to see her, but public school children in the middle of cold season worries me too. I already know there's absolutely no way their parents or the kids would understand my reason for wanting to keep baby away from small children for a little while.
ET 9/10 - transferred 1 perfect 5AA blast
7dp5dt BFP ~~ Beta on 9/19 - 77.4 Beta #2 on 9/21 - 357
Low heartbeat on 10/7 86, lower heartbeat on 10/11 76, no heartbeat 10/14/13. D&C 10/15/13
Tests revealed MTHFR c677t mutation, put on Folgard.
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FET #1 1/6/14 - 4BB blast - BFN
****TW loss mentioned****
In Oct, we found out we were expecting. I got the flu shot at my OB's recommendation. I had a weird reaction to it and three weeks later, we found out the baby stopped developing at exactly the time I'd gotten the shot. The vaccine stays with you for approximately six months...which is precisely how long it took us to conceive again despite temping and using OPKs. These coincidences have me on edge.
I am NOT anti vax, so this is a weird feeling for me, but I feel such a strong gut feeling against the flu shot for me. DH has already gotten his to keep it out of the house. But I have been doing some research and can't get over: (1) the drastic change in flu shot recommendations in 97 and again in 04; (2) how can someone ethically do traditional blind studies on pregnant women to test the safety of flu shots given the potentially very real implications; (3) the strain of the flu they choose for the vaccine has to be correct in order for the shot to be effective, and if it's not the correct strain, you're screwed; and (4) I've never had the true flu despite working in flu cess pools, and it's not like the shot stops you from getting bad colds.
DH has independently done his research and agrees with my decision...but please, flame away.
@Lafreeman21 a what??!
I will be getting my vax, however I'm not here to flame you for your decision. What we do during our pregnancies is obviously different depending on the person and circumstances. Having had your prior reaction, I would probably feel the same way you do. Wishing you a happy and healthy rest of your pregnancy.
And on another note I wish I could not get colds! Every time a bug went around my work, I would always end up getting it from someone. Then again we used the same microscopes, and lab equipment, so I'm sure we were just bathing ourselves in each other's germs.
https://www.funnyordie.com/videos/b2fc974d1d/between-two-ferns-with-zach-galifianakis-hillary-clinton?_cc=__d___&_ccid=d891ef11-b3af-4395-acd1-fe8573c8f2cf
Married: 10/10
EDD: 8/27/16 MMC 1/16
Rainbow Boy: 2/04/17
TTC: 4/18 BFP: 1/2/19
EDD: 9/6/19
I'll be getting the flu shot myself, but I know the strain formulation is always only a best guess, so it doesn't guarantee people will avoid the flu even if they do get it, so I'd much rather put some accountability on people visiting and hope they take some responsibility for their actions. There are some people who won't (or they'll be so damn anxious to see the baby that they'll be lying to themselves about their health), but we can't live in a bubble. I mean, we can get damn close, but apparently grandparents and aunts and uncles want to meet the baby at some point...
IM YOUNG AND COOL
side note: he was in the nicu after birth and we wonder if that's where it came from...
Regarding mrsa, about 1/3 of people are carriers...bacteria is on us and we can't choose which kind colonizes our skin. Only becomes a problem in an immunocompromused situation which is why you are in isolation in the hospital even if you are healthy, that nurse can't risk spreading it to a different patient. In everyday life mrsa is NBD.
Had the weirdest dream about pregnancy. Dreamed I was pregnant with twins (definitely not) and then suddenly I woke up in a hospital room and I had had a CS and no memory of labor or said CS. I asked my parents to see my kids and they said I didn't need to see them yet, they were sleeping and didn't need to nurse yet (WTF). I lost it and started shouting at my dad to bring me my kids NOW.
Then he turns up with one baby. Who is 6+ months old because it can sit by itself, hello. With admittedly adorable blond curls, but where are my twins and whose baby is this?
And just as I was about to freak out, I was in the middle of some kind of 50s era neighborhood where everyone was a serial killer and I had to act normal because as soon as they knew I knew what they were I would get killed. So I needed to find a car to get me out of that place (and find the 6m old baby, weirdly. I wasn't bothered about the twins).
Woke up weirdly conflicted.
Maybe no more tagliatelle with salmon for dinner?