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Feeding thread

A thread to discuss baby's feeding. Breastfeeding, bottle feeding, formula feeding..all are welcome! 
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    Finley has been having rough mornings where he wants to eat and eat and then will spit up because he ate too much. If I cut him off to burp or anything else he will root around and act super hungry. He will do this for more than a couple of hours sometimes! I try to soothe him to sleep but he seems to be settled only by eating. 

    Is he truly hungry? Is this cluster feeding? Should I offer him a pacifier once he's taken his normal feed? Let him continue eating even if it means spitting up later? 

    Hes bottle fed breast milk btw. 
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    Love this thread!!

    @mom2adoodle could it be a growth spurt? Are you able to try a slower flow nipple and see if maybe just eating slower works? 
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    I feel like I remember holding DS reclined after each feed for a certain amount of time to prevent gas/spit ups. Anyone remember how long you're supposed to hold them reclined?
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    I used to keep DD semi reclined for about 20 minutes or so after each feeding. I also used a slow flow nipple for her, and offered a pacifier after the bottle was gone while I prepared the next one. If she still wanted more, great, but sometimes she had eaten too fast and it was like her tummy didn't get the memo it was full, or it was comfort sucking that she really was after.
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    Does anyone have a feeding app that they like?  Specifically one that works well with multiples?  Most of them seem to have so many things and charts and whatnot and all I want is to push start and stop for nursing. 
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    @mamadomino I've been using the app MammaBaby and really like it. The only thing is you have to pay for it after a few days in order to keep your account. I like it more than others I tried though. 
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    @mamadomino I've been using BabyNursing which is free and has a start / stop timer. I don't know how easy it is with multiples but might be worth a shot to try. I used EatSleep previously and didn't like for the lack of a timer. Wunderlist didn't have a timer either. 

    I only track feeds (nursing, pumping, and bottle feeds) and diapers. Oh, and weights. There are other options but I haven't spent any time on them. 

    There is another thread, Eating Sleeping Pooping, on here and other bumpies had their fave apps. Hope this helps! I'm curious to know which one you settle on. 
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    Omg , the comfort sucking! What do you do about this? I have been doing a combo of breastfeeding and bottle feeding with pumped milk. But she constantly just wants to sleep with the breast in her mouth. I wake her as soon as she slows sucking, but if I take her off she immediately starts rooting and becomes agitated. I am having trouble determining if she is really hungry or just wants comfort when she is rooting constantly. Anyone else? Any suggestions?
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    I use FeedBaby.  It's only been a few days but it is working great to track feedings (with timer) and type of dirty diaper.  You can track a ton of other things, including weight, medicine, temperature etc. It did cost a few bucks but the best part is it can sync between my phone and husbands so we both can track and see the data.  There was an option to add a second baby. 
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    @mamadomino I use Total Baby and love it

    @jellybiehn About how long into your feeding does she slow her sucking and you try taking her off? My LO does this, but I still hear swallow sounds, so it seems like she's still eating...I try to wait until it seems she really is done eating (either she has passed out and the nipple has fallen out of her mouth, or her sucking/swallowing has slowed down so much, I know she's not continuing to get much out of the feeding session...)
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    My LO likes to keep at the breast for what seems like forever. I'm talking 30+ min sometimes. She'll seem asleep or just lightly munching and then start rooting around. 

    Swaddlng seems to help. I think if her hand goes up toward her mouth she starts wanting to suck again. So wrapping her up snug seems to help.  And if I've fed her a bunch and she's still fussy I'll give her a pacifier. Otherwise she will sometimes eat too much and be so full of milk that she spits up. 
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    @jellybiehn I've been going through the same thing. Sophia will stay asleep a couple of minutes after falling asleep with the nipple (and milk) still in her mouth and then will wake up wanting to continue eating. A few times she's even let milk just fall out of her mouth like if she's not even hungry.


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    Thank you for the replies.

    I did introduce a soother that does seem to be a good distraction.

    I have been pumping a lot more the last day and a half for some needed nipple healing time, but when she is at the breast after feeding there is definitely a fussy period after she has officially nodded off and I remove her. I thought she was still hungry so I would latch her again and she would immediately settle but definitely no sucking or swallowing.


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    We're on day three of BFing and Bennett seems to be doing well. My milk is in and I'm in pain but so far we're both still handling it. Going to try to see a LC soon just to make sure we're doing it right. I had so many BFing struggles with my daughter so I'm hoping to not repeat that. 
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    @mom2adoodle Monte does the same thing.  He's sleeping better at night waking every 3-4 hours, eats about 2.5oz and back to sleep but in the mornings, DANG! He will eat every 1.5 hrs 4-5 ounces at a time. And always spits up unless he burps so I burp him over my shoulder until he does which sometimes takes 20mins. Today I gave him a pacifier instead of another bottle after he had eaten about 10 ounces in 4 hours and he passed right out.  Highly recommend Wubanub pacifiers.  They are amazing. Swaddling def helps a lot too.

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    I think I have finally turned a corner on this breastfeeding as we both seem to be doing better this week. I tended to just breastfeed overnight and pump during the day as it was just easier to bottle feed. Last week I found myself quite emotional at 2äm during a feed as I realized I hated it and was actually dreading having to breastfeed that night. Immediately the guilt set in of course. But I kept with it and things are improving.

    I am just wondering if any other moms here are dealing with flat or inverted nipples?

    I still get pain with the first few sucks as the nipple is being coaxed out, but if I have been good about the latch it goes away quickly. But wow are my nipples still extremely sensitive all day. Is this just normal for breastfeeding? Is it just the inverted nipples? I use the lanolin cream every time and it is helping, but I guess I am just wondering from any STM's if this is something that will eventually subside or something to get used to as long as I'm breastfeeding.

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    @jellybiehn How many days PP are you? It will definitely subside....I want to say by 6 weeks, my nipples were completely adjusted and there was no more pain or sensitivity
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    @jellybiehn I have inverted nipples and Xavier doesn't latch well unless I use the nipple shield. My nipples do seem more sensitive but think it is because they are slowly becoming outies. My mom and grandmother had the same issue but said that eventually their nipples came out and was no longer an issue. I've been bfing for almost 3 weeks now and my nipples do seem to be poking out more on their own. Hoping what mom says is true. hope this information helps.

    @mom2adoodle Xavier does the same thing with the rooting. I have found wrapping him up or offering a pacifier seems to help. He likes to comfort suck a lot so the pacifier really helps. He loves the tommee tippee pacifier.
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    @jellybiehn My pediatrician's office has a lactaction consultant on staff. She recommended a prescription nipple cream called APNO. At that time my nipples were only a little sore, but starting to crack. I had been using lanolin. She told me the APNO is better, and suggested I start using it before breastfeeding becomes painful. With my insurance it only ended up costing $5. 
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    Thanks everyone for the replies. I'm just over 2 weeks PP now, good to know it will get better after a while. I definitely think they are slowly getting better at being sucked into outies!

    I tried the nipple shields for the first week as my nipples were bruised and cracked/bleeding by the time I came home from the hospital. A little healing time with the shields and paying more attention to the latch and they cleared up. Now I use the lanolin religiously, but I will look into the APNO cream if it gets bad again. It is good to know there are other options.

    I keep reading that the nipple shields can decrease your supply, although I can't see how this is even possible. I used it anyway and will again of needed as it was a lifesaver.

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    We are currently using nipple shield with success. My nipples are very flat and I can't pinch my nipple into her little mouth to get it to work. So we are starting with the shield and I will continue to try without as well. But it's been tough. I pumped at the hospital for the first time and that was good. We syringe fed her what I pumped. Hoping it all improves as time goes on. We are only at this for 1.5 days so I know there's still time!
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    @jellybiehn here is the prescribing information for APNO. It's been a life saver for me. 

    https://www.nbci.ca/index.php?option=com_content&id=76:all-purpose-nipple-ointment-apno&Itemid=17

     
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    Okay I'm probably going to start pumping here next week and I am also breastfeeding and I'm going to continue to breastfeed but start building my Supply up for when I go back to work. Any of you moms breastfeeding and pumping if so when do you pump, how often, have you talked to the lactation consultant? I was going to call my lactation consultant but figured I'd ask you ladies first. Any suggestions?
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    @jenkar01 I only pump once a day, after the first feeding of the day. I get 3-5 oz in 5 minutes.  I also use a milk saver to catch let-down from the non feeding breast for each feeding and that gives me 2-3 extra oz throughout the day. 
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    @jenkar01 I'd start with once per day after a feeding as well. I'm 2wks pp and have pumped twice now. Eventually I'll probably pump before bed too, to start a freezer stash before I head back to work. That's what I did with my other two kids and it seemed to work out fine. 
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    @jenkar01 I prefer to pump at a time that will correspond to when I pump when I go back to work, because my supply is increased very easily.  So right now I'm pumping occasionally after the feeding that is around noon, because that's my lunch at work and I will plan to pump then.  I try not to pump at night because my babies tend to eat more at night and I don't want to not have enough for the next feeding.  
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    @skirtandsandals I LOL;ed about your little "old man turtle."  my LO looks like an old man at times too.  its so cute, esp when she has a little milk drool 
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    Cluster feeding...how do you cope? My Molly has been going crazy for my milk the past two days (nights mostly). She fed for like 30 minutes on one side, was fussy so I put her on the other and she's been going for like 40 minutes. If I pull away she gets fussy and roots around. I'm happy she's eating and should regain her weight, but I'm exhausted. I can't keep up with the pace. What do you do to help? I'd prefer not to use a pacifier. She does love being swaddled so that's always an option, but I'm not sure it would stop her agitation when she's not feeding. 
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    @rock1cherry cluster feeding is so hard! My daughter is 2wks, and apparently there's a growth spurt around then. The past few days have been non stop feeding!  There's not really a way around it unfortunately. It's one of those things that will pass. We use a pacifier, but that doesn't really do much because she is legit hungry, so I sat on the couch all day and fed her...
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    @hejo2016 yes, it is so hard! Mine is only 9 days old and she's a maniac on the boob right now. I wouldn't mind as much if it happened when the Internet seems to say it's most common (6-10pm). Mine starts this at like 11 and goes until 2-3am, which stinks since that's my longer stretch of in between time / sleep time. We have an appointment tomorrow with a lactation specialist so we will see if she suggests anything or if this is just normal for the timing. 
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    @rock1cherry let us know what the LC says! My daughter has a minor tongue tie and still debating if it's worth getting fixed...
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    I feel you ladies!!!  Here's what I did to stay sane - used a bottle to catch the let down on the other side.  Usually got about 10 mLs that would just be wasted anyway.  I just propped the bottle up using a towel inside my nursing bra.  After she was finished, I used a manual pump to add a little more milk - up to 15-20mL total.  I would do this almost every feeding session during the day.  Averaged 1/2 oz milk x 10 feedings and even if I missed one or two pumping sessions I still had at least 4 oz of milk.  I only did a little at a time because I didn't want to be empty for her next feed that I knew was coming soon or wreck her natural schedule.  

    My hubby fed her once a night, she took about 2oz at a time then (2 weeksish old) and now she takes about 4oz.  Baby was happy because she didn't have to work hard for a full tummy and I got a little stretch of sleep.  And my husband really enjoyed the time together with Victoria.  

    I totally understand the aversion to using a bottle or a pacifier to avoid nipple confusion and promote good latching.  I was hesitant too (and the LC's make it seem like you're doomed if you do it!  LOL).  This worked for us.  I was going crazy from no sleep and my nipples being constantly munched on.  

    I recommend the $35 Avent manual pump.  It comes with a bottle and you need no other supplies.  I liked it because I could 100% control the vacuum and where it was touching my sore nipples and I could do it anywhere.  No need to set up the electric pump and be by an outlet.  I'm sure any pump would be great or you could actually hand express, it's such a small amount of milk at a time.  
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    @ab920 nothing wrong with that! A fed baby is what is important. And if you're still able to breastfeed and formula feed then you get the best of both worlds. And dad can feed that way too! Glad to hear it took the pressure off and everyone is happier with that solution!
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    ^^ Amen!
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    I hate cluster feeding! And our baby girl does it from 11pm-2:00am so I feel your pain@rock1cherry! I'm glad it's not always like that.
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    We had a great follow up with the lactation consultant yesterday at our pediatrician! Baby girl has gained almost a full pound in one week. This explains the cluster feeding - she had quite the growth spurt! She's now 7oz over her birth weight and I couldn't be happier!

    I no longer need to keep track of the diaper and feed count which is nice. And I can stop waking her to feed so often at night. Tonight went really well so far. We went to bed around 11 (last feed) then I woke her at 2 and then at 6. No cluster feeding, no fussiness. It's been great! I'm hoping we can keep this up! Just trying to decide if I should push my luck and wake her at 9 or if I should stick to 8am wake up. Either way, I'm so happy she's progressing how she is. And is letting us get some sleep. I've been so tired these past few nights. I really needed to catch up on this sleep. Feeling pretty lucky!
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    @rock1cherry I'm so happy for you (and jealous! LOL) - glad your little one is gaining all that weight and sleeping!! You're a nursing pro. 

    Doesnt it feel good? Like all the hard work and sleeplessness and such but when you see those numbers on the scale it's like YAHOO! I HELPED MAKE THAT HAPPEN. WITH MY BOOBS!!! 
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