There was a wreck on the interstate the other day, and a lady was trying to merge in front of me. She had a giant Trump sticker on the back of her car. I did not let her merge. #passiveaggressive
Whenever I see people with Trump stickers I always want to stare and get a good look. I don't know a single person remotely supporting Trump. Who are these mysterious creatures??
Ha... my FIL for one. His politics tend towards "blustery blowhard". MIL is also apparently voting for Trump, but could maaaaaybe be talked into voting for a different GOP candidate. DH's mom's side of the family is pretty republican on the whole (except for DH.)
My dad's girlfriend. She also told me that I should let DS cry when he was a newborn that it was "good for his lungs". Sooooo, yeah.
@Pomegranate1983 I don't think it's necessarily because you've got a midwife and not an OB.
I'm with an OB and the only ultrasound in their normal schedule is the 18 week anatomy scan. I had two more: one for a nuchal translucency test and one for a fetal echocardiogram. But those were optional, and expensive, and only available because though low risk we fell into certain categories that meant insurance would partially cover those procedures.
I'm with an OB and they told me at the 20-week appointment that we'd only get that as our last ultrasound unless something happened that needed to be checked up on. I think this is normal for low-risk pregnancies.
It was kind of a bummer because we got zero good pictures at that ultrasound. I don't have any good ones besides a couple from the 12-week scan. But it's not important enough for me to make an appointment at a private boutique just to get more.
Same here. Last U/S Was at 24W and only then to check on something they couldn't get a clear reading on at the 20 week a/s. No more ultrasounds unless something goes wrong. It means you are low risk.
RE: Ultrasounds. As someone who had a scare and had to get extra ultrasounds, I didn't feel very "spoiled". Everything was fine and I'm not high risk, but we are actually turning down any additional from the MFM because of the cost.
Also, it is still unknown what the cause of extra, unnecessary ultrasounds are. They are also pretty certain that the baby hears it VERY loudly, and it is likely not a pleasant experience for the baby.
So yeah, wanting more is a bit selfish. I'll see his face every day when he is here. Ultrasound quality isn't even that great. It's not worth it.
I have a growth scan coming up next week in my 32nd week and then I'll have a final one at 38 weeks to get a final size estimate. I'm excited to see her again but I'm realizing that my OB has a very medical/clinical approach which I have mixed feelings about, honestly. I was reassured that she won't decide that a c section is necessary based on size estimates alone and that I'll have a chance to deliver vaginally assuming all else is good but I find it a little frustrating that they seem to rely on ultra sounds for an accurate measurement when so much of what I've read and researched indicates otherwise. I'm going to bring it up at my appointment next week to review the growth scan and see what my OB says.
RE: Ultrasounds. As someone who had a scare and had to get extra ultrasounds, I didn't feel very "spoiled". Everything was fine and I'm not high risk, but we are actually turning down any additional from the MFM because of the cost.
Also, it is still unknown what the cause of extra, unnecessary ultrasounds are. They are also pretty certain that the baby hears it VERY loudly, and it is likely not a pleasant experience for the baby.
So yeah, wanting more is a bit selfish. I'll see his face every day when he is here. Ultrasound quality isn't even that great. It's not worth it.
Thank you for saying this! I had three ultrasounds with my midwives- one to confirm pregnancy, an optional genetic screening that we choose because of a previous miscarriage, and our anatomy scan. My LO just hates them! He squirms, covers his face, try's to push the wand/Doppler away, and is not compliant if they try to get him to move. My midwife said they've done ultrasounds and dopplers on water and it causes the water to ripple, which can't feel very comfortable when you live in water. Ultrasounds are also notoriously bad at showing you what your baby looks like/how big they are/etc. it's not a perfect picture like we're made to believe. Plus Ina May Gaskin has a whole theory (that I have not independently researched) about ultrasounds changing cells and that could be a cause for many of the behavioral/physical problems we see in children today. I told DH that I was a little sad I wasn't going to get to see our little man again, his response was "yeah...until he's born and we get the live show!" i don't wanna put my baby through any unnecessary procedures, especially since he's pretty obvious about his hatred of them.
RE: Ultrasounds. As someone who had a scare and had to get extra ultrasounds, I didn't feel very "spoiled". Everything was fine and I'm not high risk, but we are actually turning down any additional from the MFM because of the cost.
Also, it is still unknown what the cause of extra, unnecessary ultrasounds are. They are also pretty certain that the baby hears it VERY loudly, and it is likely not a pleasant experience for the baby.
So yeah, wanting more is a bit selfish. I'll see his face every day when he is here. Ultrasound quality isn't even that great. It's not worth it.
Thank you for saying this! I had three ultrasounds with my midwives- one to confirm pregnancy, an optional genetic screening that we choose because of a previous miscarriage, and our anatomy scan. My LO just hates them! He squirms, covers his face, try's to push the wand/Doppler away, and is not compliant if they try to get him to move. My midwife said they've done ultrasounds and dopplers on water and it causes the water to ripple, which can't feel very comfortable when you live in water. Ultrasounds are also notoriously bad at showing you what your baby looks like/how big they are/etc. it's not a perfect picture like we're made to believe. Plus Ina May Gaskin has a whole theory (that I have not independently researched) about ultrasounds changing cells and that could be a cause for many of the behavioral/physical problems we see in children today. I told DH that I was a little sad I wasn't going to get to see our little man again, his response was "yeah...until he's born and we get the live show!" i don't wanna put my baby through any unnecessary procedures, especially since he's pretty obvious about his hatred of them.
Yeah, I'm not sure if I buy Ina May Gaskin's theory completely, but I have heard it.
There are studies suggesting that increased u/s increase incidences of left-handedness, which is obviously not a bad thing, but does point to it having some neurological effect.
RE: Ultrasounds. As someone who had a scare and had to get extra ultrasounds, I didn't feel very "spoiled". Everything was fine and I'm not high risk, but we are actually turning down any additional from the MFM because of the cost.
Also, it is still unknown what the cause of extra, unnecessary ultrasounds are. They are also pretty certain that the baby hears it VERY loudly, and it is likely not a pleasant experience for the baby.
So yeah, wanting more is a bit selfish. I'll see his face every day when he is here. Ultrasound quality isn't even that great. It's not worth it.
Thank you for saying this! I had three ultrasounds with my midwives- one to confirm pregnancy, an optional genetic screening that we choose because of a previous miscarriage, and our anatomy scan. My LO just hates them! He squirms, covers his face, try's to push the wand/Doppler away, and is not compliant if they try to get him to move. My midwife said they've done ultrasounds and dopplers on water and it causes the water to ripple, which can't feel very comfortable when you live in water. Ultrasounds are also notoriously bad at showing you what your baby looks like/how big they are/etc. it's not a perfect picture like we're made to believe. Plus Ina May Gaskin has a whole theory (that I have not independently researched) about ultrasounds changing cells and that could be a cause for many of the behavioral/physical problems we see in children today. I told DH that I was a little sad I wasn't going to get to see our little man again, his response was "yeah...until he's born and we get the live show!" i don't wanna put my baby through any unnecessary procedures, especially since he's pretty obvious about his hatred of them.
I knew this would come up at some point and it needs a huge amount of clarification. I have looked at the actual study this is based on and it has some flaws.
The study was done in rats and did show that under certain circumstances some cells in the brain of the mice did migrate to different areas of the brain. BUT they found it only happened when the probe was held in the same spot on the mice for over 30 minutes. Anything less than that there was never any change at all. And there was no cumulative effect, meaning that a few minutes here and there that added to 30 minutes did not affect the rats.
No sonographer would ever hold a probe on you in the same position for more than a few minutes, NEVER. So technically yes the study showed changes, it was under EXTREME circumstances that would never happen in a medical environment with a trained professional.
Angel baby June 2013, DD born 22 April 2014, BFP 10 Sept 2015 - Due 22 May 2016
Just jumping in about US. DH doesnt understand why we haven't had one since 20 weeks. I keep telling him that we are not high risk and I'm not over 35, so it's actually a good thing we are not getting them regularly as that would mean there is a problem (his fiends are older so he hears about their scans and thinks we should be getting them too). I did have to have an "emergency" one this week as I'm measuring ahead in fundal height so they wanted to get an EFW (she's measuring average! So it's just me that is large). The pics we got are horrible! After a certain time, the baby is too big for them to get a really clear look. So if you want to get US after 20 weeks, you might not even get the visual you were hoping for anyways..
I'm under 35 and not high risk. Both my OBs in Vegas and now Utah do routine ultrasounds at every appointment for their patients. They're less than 5 minutes - maybe 3 minutes tops. And I didn't pick them for this reason, I picked them based on recommendations. So it's not really a good thing or bad thing if you don't get them at every appointment, it's just the way your OB or midwife does things. It also probably has a lot to do with your insurance as well. My insurance covers any ultrasound that is "medically necessary" and I have yet to pay for any of them.
PS - The quality is really bad now that she's bigger. We do get a better view real time, but the pictures always turn out awful. So don't think you're missing out on some amazing pictures. They're so bad, I don't even send them to our families when I email progress updates.
I'm under 35 and not high risk. Both my OBs in Vegas and now Utah do routine ultrasounds at every appointment for their patients. They're less than 5 minutes - maybe 3 minutes tops. And I didn't pick them for this reason, I picked them based on recommendations. So it's not really a good thing or bad thing if you don't get them at every appointment, it's just the way your OB or midwife does things. It also probably has a lot to do with your insurance as well. My insurance covers any ultrasound that is "medically necessary" and I have yet to pay for any of them.
Yeah, I'm in West Los Angeles, and my OB is about the same - not every appointment, but about every second or so. I also picked her because of recommendations and not because of US (mostly because I didn't know this was a thing until recently, that the US rate varies so much). I have had ... 4 US so far, and the best one was the last one I had at 20 weeks. The next one will be this coming Friday (30 weeks, 1 day). When I heard about the tendency of high risk pregnancies to get more US I questioned my doctor about it (frantically, like "Am I high risk and just never clued in!?") and she said that it's common practice in LA,particularly West LA, to just go ahead and use all available resources available, but if I was uncomfortable with it, they can just use doppler/fundal height measurement. I said no, I want to see my baby, make sure she's alright, because OMG what a piece of mind it is to see her moving on that screen.
I'm not even sure if age means you get more u/s. I'm 38 and got one at 20W with no plans for any more. They did one more at 24W because they couldn't get a look at his stomach at the 20W u/s. No plans for any additional ones.
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I'm with an OB and the only ultrasound in their normal schedule is the 18 week anatomy scan. I had two more: one for a nuchal translucency test and one for a fetal echocardiogram. But those were optional, and expensive, and only available because though low risk we fell into certain categories that meant insurance would partially cover those procedures.
DS: Born 5-17-16
Also, it is still unknown what the cause of extra, unnecessary ultrasounds are. They are also pretty certain that the baby hears it VERY loudly, and it is likely not a pleasant experience for the baby.
So yeah, wanting more is a bit selfish. I'll see his face every day when he is here. Ultrasound quality isn't even that great. It's not worth it.
Plus Ina May Gaskin has a whole theory (that I have not independently researched) about ultrasounds changing cells and that could be a cause for many of the behavioral/physical problems we see in children today.
I told DH that I was a little sad I wasn't going to get to see our little man again, his response was "yeah...until he's born and we get the live show!"
i don't wanna put my baby through any unnecessary procedures, especially since he's pretty obvious about his hatred of them.
There are studies suggesting that increased u/s increase incidences of left-handedness, which is obviously not a bad thing, but does point to it having some neurological effect.
The study was done in rats and did show that under certain circumstances some cells in the brain of the mice did migrate to different areas of the brain. BUT they found it only happened when the probe was held in the same spot on the mice for over 30 minutes. Anything less than that there was never any change at all. And there was no cumulative effect, meaning that a few minutes here and there that added to 30 minutes did not affect the rats.
No sonographer would ever hold a probe on you in the same position for more than a few minutes, NEVER. So technically yes the study showed changes, it was under EXTREME circumstances that would never happen in a medical environment with a trained professional.
DS: Born 5-17-16