It is August, come on sun, I'm on vacation on a fucking boat!!!! Highs of 72 is unacceptable, but mostly this nasty overcast is unacceptable! Go away clouds! (I already bitched in the bitchfest so I'll post this bitch in the random thread...)
I've been waiting for this thread, I wasn't creative enough this morning to come up with a title myself.
My dad died when I was 16 in a motorcycle accident, the 12th anniversary is on the 31st. I have never had any sort of "interaction" with him since he passed....until last night.
I had a dream last night that he came to me and was telling me that I don't need him anymore and he kept shape shifting, first he was a snake, then he was the trees, etc. I was bawling telling him that I do still need him and begging him not to leave me. That's where I woke up. Wtf? Is he leaving me? Is he going to stay?
I'm not a huge believer in the after life but I do like to believe that my dad met Jonah in heaven and he is holding him for me until I can be there to hold him myself. It has helped me to cope with the loss of Jonah. Now what? Why is he leaving me? I need him to take care of my baby.
Blah. I'm sure I'm reading way too much into it but I woke up crying from this dream and I've been dwelling on it for an hour now. Sorry for being so heavy. I needed to get it out.
I also woke up to my front door being wide open, I know it wasn't me cause I'm paranoid about that stuff and H isn't sure it was him which leads me to freak out and inventory everything I own.
Can we discuss allergies and how freaking terrible they are especially since I'm terrified to take anything because I haven't seen my OB yet? I am DYING.
Sorry @SNLT1012, these vivid dreams are so hard sometimes. Big Hugs... It's 4:30am I should be showered and starting lunches. I can't. First day back from vacation and I just don't want to...
Me (40) DH (45); Started dating 2-24-12, Married 5-13-13
BFP 3-16-13..EDD 11-17-13.. MMC 4-16-13 Confirmed/D&C 4-23-13... BFP #4 6-22-14 EDD 3-6-15 FX for our LO
I've been waiting for this thread, I wasn't creative enough this morning to come up with a title myself.
My dad died when I was 16 in a motorcycle accident, the 12th anniversary is on the 31st. I have never had any sort of "interaction" with him since he passed....until last night.
I had a dream last night that he came to me and was telling me that I don't need him anymore and he kept shape shifting, first he was a snake, then he was the trees, etc. I was bawling telling him that I do still need him and begging him not to leave me. That's where I woke up. Wtf? Is he leaving me? Is he going to stay?
I'm not a huge believer in the after life but I do like to believe that my dad met Jonah in heaven and he is holding him for me until I can be there to hold him myself. It has helped me to cope with the loss of Jonah. Now what? Why is he leaving me? I need him to take care of my baby.
Blah. I'm sure I'm reading way too much into it but I woke up crying from this dream and I've been dwelling on it for an hour now. Sorry for being so heavy. I needed to get it out.
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Wow, what a truly heart wrenching dream. Hormones are making me tear up too.
I think dreams offer some insight and I always think the dreams I have of relatives who have passed are signs they are still there.
From what you said about your dream, it seems like your dad doesn't think you need him, but he will always be there, in your thoughts and you will reflect him when you parent your own child. I know it sounds like a lot, and you can totally disregard it. I just really think dreams do tell us something. The shapeshifting thing is kind of odd though. Hope you have a better day.
@SNLT1012 , I know how difficult realistic dreams can be, especially when about loved ones, and especially loved ones who have passed away. I would say that the dream is more indicative of your fears of loss than of you losing your father again and more permanently. If you believe he is watching Jonah, I don't think you should stop believing that. Big hugs, mama.
I've been waiting for this thread, I wasn't creative enough this morning to come up with a title myself.
My dad died when I was 16 in a motorcycle accident, the 12th anniversary is on the 31st. I have never had any sort of "interaction" with him since he passed....until last night.
I had a dream last night that he came to me and was telling me that I don't need him anymore and he kept shape shifting, first he was a snake, then he was the trees, etc. I was bawling telling him that I do still need him and begging him not to leave me. That's where I woke up. Wtf? Is he leaving me? Is he going to stay?
I'm not a huge believer in the after life but I do like to believe that my dad met Jonah in heaven and he is holding him for me until I can be there to hold him myself. It has helped me to cope with the loss of Jonah. Now what? Why is he leaving me? I need him to take care of my baby.
Blah. I'm sure I'm reading way too much into it but I woke up crying from this dream and I've been dwelling on it for an hour now. Sorry for being so heavy. I needed to get it out.
I'm so sorry what a rough night that must have been...maybe the shapeshifting can relate to him being everywhere and in everything surrounding you. I really believe in that kind of thing and I hope you still find comfort that your sweet Jonah is with your dad.
This is more of a rant than random but yesterday my toddler slept til 9:30 but I couldn't sleep in cause I had to clean for a showing of the house. Today, we have the day completely off and he woke up at 5:59....noooooo!
Guys look! I'm now googling what I can about this dream and found this:
Generally, a snake featured in a dream means that you’re dealing with a difficult situation or unsettling emotions in your waking life. On the positive side of this dream analysis, dreaming of snakes could also mean that healing and transformation are taking place.
A snake can appear in your dreams as an animal spirit guide or animal totem, bringing guidance about life direction and healing opportunities.
Thanks for all the support. I appreciate the different perspectives, it's helping to calm me down.
@SNLT1012 Damn. I just did my eye makeup. So sorry you had such a jarring dream. I was thinking the same thing as @jenny0314 , that maybe he was watching over this babe & knows it's going to be ok. ::hugs::
My random: After we saw the HB yesterday, hubby was being so cute. He immediately had us order pregnancy announcements from Etsy (he really wanted the quail egg ones, so I went with it). Then he asked what sex I thought it was - I have no clue of course. He then said "It's a girl," with complete confidence. He said one of our TTC attempts right before O, he just knew it "stuck," and he had visions of me through all ages (child-elderly). He said he's never had an experience like that & he knew it meant this is a girl. He was really embarrassed to share... I was so touched though. It's cute to watch him get used to the idea that he's going to be a daddy!
DD has exotropia (her right eye turns outwards sometimes) and she'd been wearing a patch over her eye for about 1 hr a day up until we saw her Dr. again last week and he said he wants her to wear the patch for half the day now. I feel so bad, she hates it and tries to pry it off. She gets irritable easily and is clingy when she's wearing it.
We're supposed to go back to the Dr again in a month, but it takes over an hour to get there and it's almost $40 for the copay each time. I will always do what's best for her but it would be nice if we could have a couple of months between appointments because between the gas and the copay it's not exactly cheap.
@SNLT1012 ((hugs)) I'm sorry you started your day so rough.
I don't want to go to work today at ALL. The girl who sits next to me is a giant amoral bossy snatch, and I hate her. Normally her 'get rich quick' schemes are irritating, but now that I'm pregnant, some of them make me cry and I have to hide it at work.
For example, she just bought a pug puppy... from a puppy mill. The poor thing is only 4 weeks old, and my coworker is delighted about how clingy the baby is (of course it's clingy, you ripped her away from her mother you witch).
Best part? My coworker plans on becoming a puppy mill herself with this puppy. And it's not illegal here, so I have to sit and watch her breed thos poor baby too early, then let her die because thier cheap asses wouldn't pay for a cesarian, which pugs often need.
@SNLT1012 ((hugs)) I'm sorry you started your day so rough.
I don't want to go to work today at ALL. The girl who sits next to me is a giant amoral bossy snatch, and I hate her. Normally her 'get rich quick' schemes are irritating, but now that I'm pregnant, some of them make me cry and I have to hide it at work.
For example, she just bought a pug puppy... from a puppy mill. The poor thing is only 4 weeks old, and my coworker is delighted about how clingy the baby is (of course it's clingy, you ripped her away from her mother you witch).
Best part? My coworker plans on becoming a puppy mill herself with this puppy. And it's not illegal here, so I have to sit and watch her breed thos poor baby too early, then let her die because thier cheap asses wouldn't pay for a cesarian, which pugs often need.
Goddammit, so angry.
Oh my gosh, this is making me ragey! I detest puppy mills and I can't understand how they are still legal in some areas.
If she weren't your boss, I be calling her ass out. In front of a ton of people and make her look like such a snatch.
Everyone on my team knows because she won't shut up about the puppy. We all hate her too, and each have tried to discourage her by telling her how much it costs.
My boss just came back from medical leave and is a huge animal lover. I can't wait to have a private meeting with her and vent about her puppy mill plans. My boss is tired of her for other reasons anyway.
@snlt1012, that's a pretty crazy, vivid dream. I totally believe in deceased relatives trying to contact through dreams. I had a similar dream about 3 years ago, pretty much 10 years after my grandfather passed. It was a rough time for our family- my cousin was considering on putting her daughter up for adoption, my brother just got out of a relationship with his ex-fiance, my cousin was going off to Afghanistan, and I was finishing school and about to get married. It wasn't like any dream I ever had. I woke up sobbing too.
I don't remember seeing him, everything was dark, and I just remember feeling his presence. Before he could talk, I was rambling on about how all these things are happening, and he acknowledged EVERYTHING that was going on, he kept saying "I know, I know everything that's happening, you don't have to tell me." And then all he said was "It'll be OK. Everything and everyone will be OK." I was starting to cry in my dream, and then he hugged me, and then he left. I woke up instantly and started to sob. I knew it was truly him.
I told all of my family the dream that weekend, and everyone was just sobbing hearing my dream/encounter. They believe the reason why he chose me was because I was the one "open and level headed" to receive it. Long story short- my cousin kept her baby, my other cousin just finished his last tour in Afghanistan and recently got married. My brother found the love of his life a few months later and got married, and obviously I got married. Everything did turn out OK.
Today I am 8w 5d and up until Saturday my only complaints were fatigue and boob pain... But Saturday... o.m.g. I was "sick" 5 times, Sunday 3, so far only once today (I won't use the v-word to make others queasy lol). But wth? no morning sickness till now.. Idk if it's "morning sickness" or maybe I'm actually sick..a type of virus or food poisoning? but man does it suck!
heading to the hospital for bloodwork shortly, then I have an ultrasound at 4pm. Then the doctor will call. Am I right that the ultrasonographer won't be able to say anything while she's doing the ultrasound?
I had period-level bleeding all night (though cramps less bad than the first day of my period usually is, i.e. non-soul crushing), so I'm feeling pretty pessimistic. I already called in sick today, and will probably be lying in bed, in the dark, for most of it. D is going to take L to a faraway children's museum today, and I may spend some quality time at Starbucks after the bloodwork, eating all of the foods.
thanks, @etoille for positive vibes! @SNLT1012 vivid dreams are the worst. hugs.
TTC#3: started September 2014; BFP on 10/1/14; EDD 6/10/15 TTC#2: started June 2014; BFP on 7/22/14; EDD 3/31/5; MC 8/3/14
CRB (aka L): born 3/21/11 (35 weeks, 5 weeks in the NICU)
DH and I had to kill some time at the mall on Saturday so we walked around Babies R Us. Poor guy got a little overwhelmed. Reminded me of this. . .
Anyway, we were sitting in the gliders there and it was sooooo comfortable. Fast forward to today and I found one for sale on this local Facebook Local Yardsale group for $20. I know I'm not ready yet to make decisions about a nursery, but for $20 I can't pass it up. I'm getting that sucker.
heading to the hospital for bloodwork shortly, then I have an ultrasound at 4pm. Then the doctor will call. Am I right that the ultrasonographer won't be able to say anything while she's doing the ultrasound?
I had period-level bleeding all night (though cramps less bad than the first day of my period usually is, i.e. non-soul crushing), so I'm feeling pretty pessimistic. I already called in sick today, and will probably be lying in bed, in the dark, for most of it. D is going to take L to a faraway children's museum today, and I may spend some quality time at Starbucks after the bloodwork, eating all of the foods.
thanks, @etoille for positive vibes! @SNLT1012 vivid dreams are the worst. hugs.
Im so sorry you're going through this T&Ps that bloodwork comes back normal and everything will be ok. Enjoy nomming all the foods!
I have a problem... And I don't remember this with my other pregnancies. Is anyone else having major issues with irritability and actually not even being attracted to your SO? Idk what's wrong with me, it's like a switch went off and it's stuck. I am irritated by everything he does lately. I hate the way he touches me, I hate kissing him, I can't stand sex right now that I just don't even try anymore, and then just little things drive me insane.. But I hide it and put a smile on because he's such a sweet man I don't want to hurt his feelings.. This all started since I got pregnant, so I hope so bad that it's just the hormones and come second Tri I'll feel better.. I mean I've always been so in love with him and couldn't get enough of him, and now it's like I feel smothered and can't get enough alone time.. I hate this.
I have a problem... And I don't remember this with my other pregnancies. Is anyone else having major issues with irritability and actually not even being attracted to your SO? Idk what's wrong with me, it's like a switch went off and it's stuck. I am irritated by everything he does lately. I hate the way he touches me, I hate kissing him, I can't stand sex right now that I just don't even try anymore, and then just little things drive me insane.. But I hide it and put a smile on because he's such a sweet man I don't want to hurt his feelings.. This all started since I got pregnant, so I hope so bad that it's just the hormones and come second Tri I'll feel better.. I mean I've always been so in love with him and couldn't get enough of him, and now it's like I feel smothered and can't get enough alone time.. I hate this.
Yep, it's happening to me too. Everything he says is annoying. On the other hand I think he feels left out of the pregnancy because I'm the one feeling crummy and not able to give him the attention he wants, so I believe he actually IS being more irritating as a result of that.
Yes! He notices I'm completely different than I've ever been towards him and it was such a sudden change that he's become extremely clingy.... I don't do clingy. I just wanna be left the fuck alone. I love him, but give me some space please.. I feel like shit for this but idk how to make him understand. I actually thought about talking to my OB about it at our August 20th appt when we get our first u/s.
Big hugs to you @herbavein I hope everything is ok. @SNLT1012 that is a heavy dream. I agree with PPs they have all given good advice. It does sound like he's letting you know everything will be ok.
My random: ate a bagel on the way to my first OB appt and now I'm eating breakfast at a restaurant....yummmmers. Appt was good, not much was done just yet but they do want to get a dating US due to my majorly irregular cycles. That's Wednesday. And now I'm just hanging out at this restaurant bc I still have an hour to waste before work. Because who wants to go in early!? Yuck no.
@Cinderella021714 I would think it's probably the hormones but this is my first pregnancy so I'm just guessing. I know how you feel though sometimes, my H pisses me off sometimes too and I just wanna knock his head off but it's not even like he's done anything, he's just annoying me! I hope things get better hon, I'm sure they will. FX for you!
@herbavein you have all of my vibes and his this morning. My u/s tech at least told me what she saw too. I hope you get answers soon.
@SNLT1012 I also lost my dad to a motorcycle accident about 10 years ago. I have dreamed about him a few times and it really shakes me when that happens (like when j dreamed about him playing with my son). I'm not sure how I feel about communicating with the dead, but that time with him is still special, even if temporary.
@jenny0314 I wish I could have the house to myself but SO got food poisoning last night so he called in. He was puking all night and when he'd come back to bed he has this habit of sleeping with his mouth open so unless he's facing away from me (even if I'm turned the other way) my supersonic nose smelled it all night. I slept like shit.
I'm glad you understand to an extent though. Wish I could enjoy sex..
I'm in a leadership training course all week and I have to say, there is little more obnoxious than self proclaimed leaders who live to hear themselves talk about... themselves.
@SNLT1012 - everyone else has already said it better, so like the others, creepy internet hugs to you! Even though those dreams can be amazing, I know how much of an emotional wallop they provide.
herbavein - Thoughts and prayers that your appointment goes well!
For my random thoughts, yesterday, I ate every carb imaginable. I had rice for breakfast, cereal for lunch, and an entire bag of potato gnocchi for dinner. Oh and ice cream for dessert. Needs. To. Stop.
I am so fucking tired today. I almost fell asleep about 100 times during my drive to work. Unless I was slapping my face or stomping my feet, I kept almost passing out. Plus, I ony had an average of 1 pt/hr scheduled today at work (we're supposed to have 4/hr), but people keep canceling their appointments. I'm going to be asleep at my desk if this keeps up. I've really lost my taste for coffee, too. Maybe I can sneak out for a walk during lunch.
Guess who's back in the Mother F'n house.... j/k, but I am back from vacation. I missed you all, but it was a fun 10 days. The weather was very uncooperative, so we didn't get as much lake time as I was expecting (damn thunderstorms).
@SNLT1012 ((big hugs)) @herbavein Sending you T&Ps @Peledreamsofrain I agree with @beckyj2013 , I would definitely speak up in the hopes that you can make her see how her choices are affecting poor defenseless animals.
WARNING WARNING. The help please thread by zeyzey has a photo of something icky on toilet paper. I did NOT click on the freaking thing but I still can't unsee the thumbnail. ewewewewew
SO wish I'd seen the warning before clicking on that post!
Re: Stars, hide your fires...
My dad died when I was 16 in a motorcycle accident, the 12th anniversary is on the 31st. I have never had any sort of "interaction" with him since he passed....until last night.
I had a dream last night that he came to me and was telling me that I don't need him anymore and he kept shape shifting, first he was a snake, then he was the trees, etc. I was bawling telling him that I do still need him and begging him not to leave me. That's where I woke up. Wtf? Is he leaving me? Is he going to stay?
I'm not a huge believer in the after life but I do like to believe that my dad met Jonah in heaven and he is holding him for me until I can be there to hold him myself. It has helped me to cope with the loss of Jonah. Now what? Why is he leaving me? I need him to take care of my baby.
Blah. I'm sure I'm reading way too much into it but I woke up crying from this dream and I've been dwelling on it for an hour now. Sorry for being so heavy. I needed to get it out.
I also woke up to my front door being wide open, I know it wasn't me cause I'm paranoid about that stuff and H isn't sure it was him which leads me to freak out and inventory everything I own.
Can we discuss allergies and how freaking terrible they are especially since I'm terrified to take anything because I haven't seen my OB yet? I am DYING.
It's 4:30am I should be showered and starting lunches. I can't. First day back from vacation and I just don't want to...
Me (40) DH (45); Started dating 2-24-12, Married 5-13-13
BFP 3-16-13..EDD 11-17-13.. MMC 4-16-13 Confirmed/D&C 4-23-13...
BFP #4 6-22-14 EDD 3-6-15 FX for our LO
Wow, what a truly heart wrenching dream. Hormones are making me tear up too.
I think dreams offer some insight and I always think the dreams I have of relatives who have passed are signs they are still there.
From what you said about your dream, it seems like your dad doesn't think you need him, but he will always be there, in your thoughts and you will reflect him when you parent your own child. I know it sounds like a lot, and you can totally disregard it. I just really think dreams do tell us something. The shapeshifting thing is kind of odd though.
Hope you have a better day.
This is more of a rant than random but yesterday my toddler slept til 9:30 but I couldn't sleep in cause I had to clean for a showing of the house. Today, we have the day completely off and he woke up at 5:59....noooooo!
Generally, a snake featured in a dream means that you’re dealing with a difficult situation or unsettling emotions in your waking life. On the positive side of this dream analysis, dreaming of snakes could also mean that healing and transformation are taking place.
A snake can appear in your dreams as an animal spirit guide or animal totem, bringing guidance about life direction and healing opportunities.
Thanks for all the support. I appreciate the different perspectives, it's helping to calm me down.
My random: After we saw the HB yesterday, hubby was being so cute. He immediately had us order pregnancy announcements from Etsy (he really wanted the quail egg ones, so I went with it). Then he asked what sex I thought it was - I have no clue of course. He then said "It's a girl," with complete confidence. He said one of our TTC attempts right before O, he just knew it "stuck," and he had visions of me through all ages (child-elderly). He said he's never had an experience like that & he knew it meant this is a girl. He was really embarrassed to share... I was so touched though. It's cute to watch him get used to the idea that he's going to be a daddy!
We're supposed to go back to the Dr again in a month, but it takes over an hour to get there and it's almost $40 for the copay each time. I will always do what's best for her but it would be nice if we could have a couple of months between appointments because between the gas and the copay it's not exactly cheap.
My cereal is not sitting well this morning :-t
@SNLT1012 - I agree with PPs. This is your dad telling you YOU GOT THIS. I know how emotional it can be to have visits like this, ((hugs))
I don't want to go to work today at ALL. The girl who sits next to me is a giant amoral bossy snatch, and I hate her. Normally her 'get rich quick' schemes are irritating, but now that I'm pregnant, some of them make me cry and I have to hide it at work.
For example, she just bought a pug puppy... from a puppy mill. The poor thing is only 4 weeks old, and my coworker is delighted about how clingy the baby is (of course it's clingy, you ripped her away from her mother you witch).
Best part? My coworker plans on becoming a puppy mill herself with this puppy. And it's not illegal here, so I have to sit and watch her breed thos poor baby too early, then let her die because thier cheap asses wouldn't pay for a cesarian, which pugs often need.
Goddammit, so angry.
Where did my motivation go? Still in our jammies.
Everyone on my team knows because she won't shut up about the puppy. We all hate her too, and each have tried to discourage her by telling her how much it costs.
My boss just came back from medical leave and is a huge animal lover. I can't wait to have a private meeting with her and vent about her puppy mill plans. My boss is tired of her for other reasons anyway.
I had period-level bleeding all night (though cramps less bad than the first day of my period usually is, i.e. non-soul crushing), so I'm feeling pretty pessimistic. I already called in sick today, and will probably be lying in bed, in the dark, for most of it. D is going to take L to a faraway children's museum today, and I may spend some quality time at Starbucks after the bloodwork, eating all of the foods.
thanks, @etoille for positive vibes!
@SNLT1012 vivid dreams are the worst. hugs.
TTC#2: started June 2014; BFP on 7/22/14; EDD 3/31/5; MC 8/3/14
CRB (aka L): born 3/21/11 (35 weeks, 5 weeks in the NICU)
@SNLT1012 that is a heavy dream. I agree with PPs they have all given good advice. It does sound like he's letting you know everything will be ok.
My random: ate a bagel on the way to my first OB appt and now I'm eating breakfast at a restaurant....yummmmers. Appt was good, not much was done just yet but they do want to get a dating US due to my majorly irregular cycles. That's Wednesday. And now I'm just hanging out at this restaurant bc I still have an hour to waste before work. Because who wants to go in early!? Yuck no.
@SNLT1012 I also lost my dad to a motorcycle accident about 10 years ago. I have dreamed about him a few times and it really shakes me when that happens (like when j dreamed about him playing with my son). I'm not sure how I feel about communicating with the dead, but that time with him is still special, even if temporary.
MMC April 2014 at 6w2d, D&C at 9 weeks
MMC August 2014 at 9w1d, D&C at 12 weeks
CP October 2014
My Ovulation Chart
I'm glad you understand to an extent though. Wish I could enjoy sex..
MMC April 2014 at 6w2d, D&C at 9 weeks
MMC August 2014 at 9w1d, D&C at 12 weeks
CP October 2014
My Ovulation Chart
@SNLT1012 - everyone else has already said it better, so like the others, creepy internet hugs to you! Even though those dreams can be amazing, I know how much of an emotional wallop they provide.
herbavein - Thoughts and prayers that your appointment goes well!
For my random thoughts, yesterday, I ate every carb imaginable. I had rice for breakfast, cereal for lunch, and an entire bag of potato gnocchi for dinner. Oh and ice cream for dessert. Needs. To. Stop.
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ME: 32 DH: 38
BFP#1 - 7/18/14; EDD 3/23/14; MMC 8/11/14 (passed naturally on 8/17/14)
BFP#2 - 12/29/14; EDD 9/10/15 *PLEASE BE OUR RAINBOW!*
@herbavein
I'm so sorry you're going through this. FX for a good u/s today and that the bleeding stops soon.
@peledreamsofrainThat's super sad. People like that disgust me. X(
I am so fucking tired today. I almost fell asleep about 100 times during my drive to work. Unless I was slapping my face or stomping my feet, I kept almost passing out.
Plus, I ony had an average of 1 pt/hr scheduled today at work (we're supposed to have 4/hr), but people keep canceling their appointments. I'm going to be asleep at my desk if this keeps up. I've really lost my taste for coffee, too. Maybe I can sneak out for a walk during lunch.
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BFP#1 7/13/11 EDD 3/16/12 DS born 3/16/12
BFP#2 5/16/14 EDD 1/23/15 CP 5/21/14
BFP#3 6/25/14 EDD 3/2/15
@herbavein Sending you T&Ps
@Peledreamsofrain I agree with @beckyj2013 , I would definitely speak up in the hopes that you can make her see how her choices are affecting poor defenseless animals.
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