UO Thursday

Mandyw75

sandbridge1030 said:

Serenla said:

It is my opinion that everyone should be required to clean public toilets for a week, just so they realize how much it sucks to clean up after messy people. I also think they should be required to work behind a counter so they know how much it sucks to serve asshats, customer service people are not your punching bags people.

Why is it that women always pee ALL OVER the toilet seats?!

I KNOW!!!!! Seriously?? If you squat and miss wipe it up, don't be dirty. Also when you are at a restaurant and the server comes to the table and asks you a question please respond and have the common decency to look them in the eye. Trust me when I say they are NOT beneath you.

This thread is giving me anxiety and I can't stop reading it.

Andrewsgal

But how do you choose which bible verses to follow? I am really curious.

thomas930

sandbridge1030 said:

fireflygirl12 said:

I hate it when people bring babies on red-eye flights. I think it's totally selfish when there are other options available. Do they not realize that everybody intends to sleep on this flight and that your child may intend to scream the whole time? Not to mention that sometimes I have to go straight to work once I land.

Took a red eye from Hawaii to NYC once, with a SCREAMING BABY next to me the ENTIRE TIME. The mom did not get up once, and it was a 9 hour flight. I've never despised a baby ever, but that day I did.

How can you despise the baby when its the parent fault for not attending to their child?

J&NL

DemoDoll said:

J&NL said:

I judge people that spend tons of money on make up. I know sometimes you need the "good" stuff because its better on your skin and I admit, I used to be that person but now that we are down to one income, I've realized that some of the drug store make up is the exact.same.thing.

Not to mention, Elf make up at Target is actually pretty decent and most of their stuff costs $1. I guess since I'm a bit more frugal nowadays, I just can't justify spending $100 on 3 things of make up that you're just going to wipe off later.

I LOVE elf makeup! There mineral mascara is amazing!!

Really? I'm glad you said that cus I need more mascara.

jlbergeron

You should not be able to buy alcohol with your Department of Social Services card in Louisiana, which is your child support card.  Child support should be for helping support the child, not get you and your friends drunk!

Stasi

amy052006 said:

amy052006 said:

There is no way I won't consider someone against equal right for gay people a raging idiot.  Especially when their screen name is the full fucking easily google-able name.  That is like being the poster child for dumb.

Let's keep it civil now

Eh, unnecessary.  There is no rule anywhere that says you have to tolerate intolerance.

Consider it a suggestion, then.

Andrewsgal

Stasi said:

amy052006 said:

amy052006 said:

There is no way I won't consider someone against equal right for gay people a raging idiot.  Especially when their screen name is the full fucking easily google-able name.  That is like being the poster child for dumb.

Let's keep it civil now

Eh, unnecessary.  There is no rule anywhere that says you have to tolerate intolerance.

Consider it a suggestion, then.

It is a terrible suggestion tolerating intolerance is what led us to where we are today.

RaganSchlappi

Stasi said:

RaganSchlappi said:

when they are completely capable of getting a job, bc its tax payers money, and I live in Atlanta and see it everyday.
I don't like expensive makeup either.

I also think this is an assumption for many people. Often times people AREN'T able to get a job. That's why they need assistance from the government. 

And, unless you work in a system where you are working with disadvantaged people day in and day out, you don't really see it.


You picked apart what I said... "When you are capable of getting of job" means when you are an able person who just doesn't WANT to get a job. Meaning, you are clearly taking advantage of the system.

thomas930

DemoDoll said:

I am a Chrisitan but I refer to myself as a "loving Christian." I know too many Christian who judge and it totally turns people off and away from religion. I honestly don't care what the bible says about being gay. It says to love one another and to not judge a hell of a lot more than it talks about being gay. I think we are meant to love one another and not pass judgement. God will judge everyone some day. I don't really know what his true stance is on being gay because the bible was written by a ton of people, thousands of years ago, not by God. I think everyone should have the right to feel loved. I am a conservative but I don't think all conservatives are anti-gay marriage. For me, I could care less who wants to marry who, if anything, gay marriage being legalized will boost our economy!

This is my stance too.
=D>

Stasi

amy052006 said:

amy052006 said:

There is no way I won't consider someone against equal right for gay people a raging idiot.  Especially when their screen name is the full fucking easily google-able name.  That is like being the poster child for dumb.

Let's keep it civil now

Eh, unnecessary.  There is no rule anywhere that says you have to tolerate intolerance.

Consider it a suggestion, then.

Andrewsgal said:

Stasi said:

amy052006 said:

amy052006 said:

There is no way I won't consider someone against equal right for gay people a raging idiot.  Especially when their screen name is the full fucking easily google-able name.  That is like being the poster child for dumb.

Let's keep it civil now

Eh, unnecessary.  There is no rule anywhere that says you have to tolerate intolerance.

Consider it a suggestion, then.

It is a terrible suggestion tolerating intolerance is what led us to where we are today.

The orginal post seemed a little threatening. Like she was going to Google the OPs name and find out who she was...which seems a little scary. I"m not trying to defend her OPs beliefs against gay marriage...actually, quiet the opposite.

But, there were suggestions in the post (beyond calling her names...whatever) that seemed threatening. Maybe I'm gauging this wrong?

RaganSchlappi

amy052006 said:

RaganSchlappi said:

Stasi said:

amy052006 said:

Stasi said:

There is no way I won't consider someone against equal right for gay people a raging idiot.  Especially when their screen name is the full fucking easily google-able name.  That is like being the poster child for dumb.

Let's keep it civil now

I can very easily take that as a threat... Be careful hunny. You're getting a little too worked up.

RaganSchlappi said:

That

RaganSchlappi said:

That's cute -- because I actually consider you not only uncivil, but a threat to the civil rights of my loved ones.

Well, nice to meet you Amy! You know I'm just 1 out of millions right? Threaten to google me all you want. You will easily be reported for saying such things. We can have a civil discussion.. Clearly. As I have not called anyone names or shown any sort of anger towards anyone. Uncivil is YOU pointing out to everyone that my full name is listed and that I am easily found through google. THAT is a threat. Me practicing my right to vote and my right to free speech and my right to my own opinions is NOT.

Serenla

RaganSchlappi said:

amy052006 said:

RaganSchlappi said:

Stasi said:

amy052006 said:

Stasi said:

There is no way I won't consider someone against equal right for gay people a raging idiot.  Especially when their screen name is the full fucking easily google-able name.  That is like being the poster child for dumb.

Let's keep it civil now

I can very easily take that as a threat... Be careful hunny. You're getting a little too worked up.

RaganSchlappi said:

That

RaganSchlappi said:

That's cute -- because I actually consider you not only uncivil, but a threat to the civil rights of my loved ones.

Well, nice to meet you Amy! You know I'm just 1 out of millions right? Threaten to google me all you want. You will easily be reported for saying such things. We can have a civil discussion.. Clearly. As I have not called anyone names or shown any sort of anger towards anyone. Uncivil is YOU pointing out to everyone that my full name is listed and that I am easily found through google. THAT is a threat. Me practicing my right to vote and my right to free speech and my right to my own opinions is NOT.
Uhhh what just happened?

Stasi

thomas930 said:

DemoDoll said:

I am a Chrisitan but I refer to myself as a "loving Christian." I know too many Christian who judge and it totally turns people off and away from religion. I honestly don't care what the bible says about being gay. It says to love one another and to not judge a hell of a lot more than it talks about being gay. I think we are meant to love one another and not pass judgement. God will judge everyone some day. I don't really know what his true stance is on being gay because the bible was written by a ton of people, thousands of years ago, not by God. I think everyone should have the right to feel loved. I am a conservative but I don't think all conservatives are anti-gay marriage. For me, I could care less who wants to marry who, if anything, gay marriage being legalized will boost our economy!

This is my stance too.
=D>

::slow clap::
=D>

Andrewsgal

Well Amy is right is is super stupid to have your full name as your screen name on the bump. She was actually helping you out. And it seems like you need a lot of help.

amhah09

RaganSchlappi said:

kbuckleyharp said:

@RaganSchlappi No name calling here. Just want a decent answer. Who gave you the right to decide what other people can do in their life?

I have the right as a US citizen to agree or disagree with certain things. It was given to me when I born in this country. I don't have the right to call the shots but I am allowed to vote as a human being living in a free country. I vote "No." Sorry.

How is this not one big hypocritical statement? I have the right because I'm an American citizen. They don't have the right because they're LGBT

RaganSchlappi

Ladies, ladies, ladies... Everyone is getting a little out of control bc of ONE person that didn't agree with you. I will Never agree with you and that is ok. I do not HAVE to agree with you and that is ok. Point me out, threaten me, call me names (bigot and racist to be exact) all you want... But, girls, (GIRLS!) I'm a grown ass women with grown ass beliefs and I don't have to explain them to anyone. I spoke my UO like everyone else... Leave it at that.

And, hey, it wouldn't be a UO if everyone agreed with me, now would it?? UO = Unpopular Opinions in case you didn't catch onto that when you opened this thread.

Toodaloo!!! Off to hang with my fellow "bigotry/racist" husband and family.

Andrewsgal

I love how people stand behind the bible, but when their lack of knowledge of what it actually says is pointed out the ignore it. Stop standing behind a book you probably have never read and don't follow. Instead be an adult and form your own opinion on facts!

amhah09

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RaganSchlappi said:

Serenla said:

ColleenSwerb said:

"Don't like gay marriage? Don't get gay married."

So fucking true. I do not ABSOLUTELY do not understand why the opposition cares so much.

Bc we're allowed to care.. Once again - free country. Obviously a lot of people care bc only 13 states out of 50 have legalized it. Georgia not being one of them. If it passes then there is obviously nothing we or I can do about it but it doesn't mean I'm going to "agree" with it. They can legalize marijuana but it doesn't mean I'm ok with it. Very simple.

But statistically more than half of the country are pro-equality.

Stasi

All my questions left unanswered. Meh. PS: @raganschlappi I would maybe talk to the bump "gods" about getting a name switch, Amy's mention about lurkers is no joke..

amhah09

RaganSchlappi said:

nikki912 said:

RaganSchlappi said:

Andrewsgal said:

I think as an adult if your beliefs are based on how you grew up it is now time to grow up and take your own responsibility for your bigoted or racist beliefs.

I am a grown up. I'm married. I'm an adult. I was raised a Christian. Racism has to do with race not sexual preferences, btw. And, I'm not a bigot bc I believe in what the Bible says.. and, yes, i was raised to believe in what the Bible says and still do bc of my adult-made choices. Call me names all you want. I fully expected child's play to come out of the woodworks here.

I hate this argument. Because the bible says? The bible also says we should stone people who work on Sundays. It says women who are on their period are unclean and aren't allowed to be spoken to. It says a whole bunch of stuff I'm certain you don't listen to. You are choosing this. There are plenty of christians that are pro-equality.

This might be true... But, honestly, it's a choice regardless. You have the choice to vote no OR yes to gay marriage in the voting booth. Does it ask me "why do you vote no?" Or "where does your choice stem from?"

No, it doesn't. But, it DOES stem from my biblical beliefs. And, that's ok.

It's not okay. And it shouldn't be something you have a choice on voting for. The bible doesn't belong in government.

Andrewsgal

RaganSchlappi said:

Ladies, ladies, ladies... Everyone is getting a little out of control bc of ONE person that didn't agree with you. I will Never agree with you and that is ok. I do not HAVE to agree with you and that is ok. Point me out, threaten me, call me names (bigot and racist to be exact) all you want... But, girls, (GIRLS!) I'm a grown ass women with grown ass beliefs and I don't have to explain them to anyone. I spoke my UO like everyone else... Leave it at that. And, hey, it wouldn't be a UO if everyone agreed with me, now would it?? UO = Unpopular Opinions in case you didn't catch onto that when you opened this thread. Toodaloo!!! Off to hang with my fellow "bigotry/racist" husband and family.

but you don't have grown ass beliefs you still believe what mommy and daddy and some preacher told you. Adults form their own opinions they can stand behind. it is obvious you don't know the bible as you can't answer and actually ignored my questions about certain verses. You still think like a child. Oh ans essentially you just said since I can't defend my bigoted beliefs I am taking my ball and going home, once again the actions of a child. You have a lot of growing up to do.

Serenla

Wow some people get really butthurt when people disagree.
Eta adding if you cannot handle it do not post in UO Thursday. Notice how not crazy I got when everyone disagreed with me? Get that woman some big girl panties.

Stasi

I guess my UO is that I freakin' love mayo...not in a gross eat-it-out-of-the-jar way, but on a turkey sandwich - YES!!

AcaAwkward

And this is why my original comment said I've never heard a valid argument against gay marriage. It always falls back to the Bible, and then, when confronted with questions as to that rationale, the opposition gets twisty panties and runs off.

We get it. You just don't like gay marriage and probably not gay people either. It just makes you uncomfy. Noted.

ETA: quotation fail.

amhah09

I have another UO. It's ridiculous when people get bent out of shape for having to answer questions in response to their UO. You can turn it around and say "you don't have to agree with me, it's a UO" all you want, but come on, you knew it was controversial when you posted it and you knew people would comment on it. If you truly think you can come in here and post in the UO thread some bigoted opinion and bounce on out unscathed then don't even bother opening the thread. We've all gotten flack for our UO at one time or another. It's expected.

greywolf18

Many forget that there is a separation of church and state. So while those who follow (selected) parts of the bible disagree (which is fine - it's what they choose to believe), it still has no bearing on government. The groundwork was already laid when the legal definition of marriage was changed. Government has already agreed that the bible cannot define law.

I agree wholeheartedly with gay marriage, and I believe in equality. But I understand the opposition's standpoint. I just don't agree that one religion's user manual should define how every person is treated (each religion has their own beliefs - so it would also have to be an argument of which religion is the RIGHT religion. And that battle has been fought for thousands of years. It won't end today.)

amhah09

greywolf18 said:

Many forget that there is a separation of church and state. So while those who follow (selected) parts of the bible disagree (which is fine - it's what they choose to believe), it still has no bearing on government. The groundwork was already laid when the legal definition of marriage was changed. Government has already agreed that the bible cannot define law.

I agree wholeheartedly with gay marriage, and I believe in equality. But I understand the opposition's standpoint. I just don't agree that one religion's user manual should define how every person is treated (each religion has their own beliefs - so it would also have to be an argument of which religion is the RIGHT religion. And that battle has been fought for thousands of years. It won't end today.)

Well said. I don't care if you believe that way because of your religion (well that's not entirely true, I do care a great deal especially if it affects my loved ones, but I understand that you have a right to your beliefs) but it doesn't belong in the voting booth. It doesn't belong in the government.

squeakyfrog15

@Andrewsgal I'll answer your question. All of the verses you quoted are from the Old Testament. They are all part of the Law. When Jesus came he said Matthew 5:17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them." That doesn't mean the law is completely wrong, but that it is no longer the standing way of entering heaven. Know Christ and believeing that He is The Lord and died for our sins is. So ye the bible said all of these things and I believe the bible. I don't pick and choose! But I also know I fall short and that's the beauty of it all.

Personally I don't like the term gay marriage because I feel marriage is a religious union before God. However I think unions should be completely legal as there is a separation between church and state. Saying this I also think we should all (those married) call our marriages unions unless you are religious. Now most people might think that's dumb and that's okay whatever it's just my thoughts.

I also feel like if a gay couple had a paper bag over them when they got married then the congregation and pastor would not know thy are gay (that may not make much sense but hold on). Meaning homosexuality is the only sin (and don't attack me for saying that) that people can outwardly see. Like I can keep my sin or things others do not like hidden, but gay people can't hide their love.

I guess I say all of that to say, I don't want to participate but I won't stop you from. I plan to raise my children that way, but I'll love them no matter. Oh and I'm a conservative:)

nikki912

My UO: when at the first sign of morning sickness some women run off to get a prescription for zofran. I'm not talking about the women who have uncontrollable vomiting or nausea that's so bad it's debilitating.
I've had a few friends who had nausea that wasn't so bad and was fixable with crackers who begged for zofran.

It's been around since 1991- not sure how long of that it was prescribed to pregnant women but for me that's not enough time to be treated like Tylenol.

Thalabomide was considered safe until it wasn't. I don't put this in the same class as that drug because it was a shit-show to begin with. But it's an example of what I mean.

Once again if you're unable to function without it, I totally understand. But mild to moderate nausea- for me isn't worth taking anything.

This comes from someone who doesn't even take Tylenol when I have a headache- pregnant or not. So that may help see where I'm coming from!!

amhah09

I just don't wear makeup. Like, I might swipe some mascara on for date night, but foundation? What is that? (I kid) I don't wear it enough to invest too much consideration on the price/ingredients. I had a friend that does MK convince me to do one of those facials and I just felt like someone smeared grease all over my face.

greywolf18

It's a democratic society, so people do vote with their beliefs. And that's fine - that's what makes it democratic. But those voting on legalizing gay marriage are usually the higher ups in government (as far as I can tell - I haven't looked that in depth into it), and they are supposed to follow a separation of church and state. It doesn't mean they actually do... When you think about it, we vote on our representatives based on their views. It's why there is rarely ever a unanimous vote on anything. Opposing views allow for learning, educating and meaningful discussions. Without opposing views, we'd be lemmings.

steph1977

My UOs:

I can't stand that terrible Xmas song about a boy who wants to buy shoes for his dying mother. Gag. I think it's terribly cheesy, along with every other country song that tells a long, boring story. Just sing, please.

A man in jean shorts is a terrible turn-off.

I think Obama is quickly steering our country down a dangerous path. I hope and pray voters wise up in 2016.

amhah09

steph1977 said:

I think Obama is quickly steering our country down a dangerous path. I hope and pray voters wise up in 2016.

::facepalm::

Please do elaborate.

Afterlater

MY UO: I WANT TO BE ABLE TO MARRY MY WIFE yes I'm gay and we are not legally married because asshats that think they are superior. We will have to pay thousands of dollars for my wife to adopt OUR child because god forbid something happens to me when we cross statelines she will have no rights to our child. What is my marriage going to do to any one else's marriage?!? Do people really think I chose this for myself. Years of name calling, being kicked out of my home, physical altercations... I dreamed of being a stay at home mom and having lots of children. I have to pay over a $1200 every time we try to get pregnant. Luckily we have those means some gay couples don't. Does that make them any less of a parent of the drug user or prostitute down the street that can't get pay for their child?
Ok end rant

Serenla

amhah09 said:

steph1977 said:

I think Obama is quickly steering our country down a dangerous path. I hope and pray voters wise up in 2016.

::facepalm::

Please do elaborate.

This should be interesting.

mrscrcalli

Serenla said:

amhah09 said:

steph1977 said:

I think Obama is quickly steering our country down a dangerous path. I hope and pray voters wise up in 2016.

::facepalm::

Please do elaborate.

This should be interesting.

this thread is about to get out of control.. Politics an Religion all up in here! 8->

strawberrytree

J&NL said:

I would also like to know where people who say healthy is cheaper than not healthy shop. I spend $60 a week on produce alone. That would easily buy a lot of cheap ground meat product, hamburger helper, Mac and cheese, and romen.

$60 a week would feed us for a week, if not longer. I used to be a "healthy eater" but I quickly had to give that up once we went down to one income. Eating healthy is expensive.

We spend about 60-70$ a week on groceries and eat fairly healthy. I meal plan and cross reference my meal plan with what's on sale- if zucchini is on sale, we're eating zucchini at least a couple nights that week. We only buy meat (chicken, fish, pork etc- very rarely red meat) when it's on sale for at least half price and stock the freezer with it. We also only eat meat 4-5 times a week and get protein from cheaper sources, like chickpeas and lentils, the rest of the time. I buy dry staples like pasta, rice, couscous, flour, etc from a local bulk store for much cheaper than grocery store prices. I don't buy prepackaged baby/toddler foods for DS and make most of his snacks. It takes a lot of planning but it's doable. If I wasn't a SAHM and didn't have the time to devote to it though, we would either be spending a lot more money or eating a lot more convenience foods. 

And I hate mayo and mustard. 

douglamj

Afterlater said:

MY UO: I WANT TO BE ABLE TO MARRY MY WIFE yes I'm gay and we are not legally married because asshats that think they are superior. We will have to pay thousands of dollars for my wife to adopt OUR child because god forbid something happens to me when we cross statelines she will have no rights to our child. What is my marriage going to do to any one else's marriage?!? Do people really think I chose this for myself. Years of name calling, being kicked out of my home, physical altercations... I dreamed of being a stay at home mom and having lots of children. I have to pay over a $1200 every time we try to get pregnant. Luckily we have those means some gay couples don't. Does that make them any less of a parent of the drug user or prostitute down the street that can't get pay for their child? Ok end rant

I was really hoping you were seeing this and would speak up! Thanks!

Andrewsgal

I hope Rick perry runs for president. It serves two purposes for me. He gets the hell out of our state and it guarantees a democrat will will. Win:win . It will also provide me with a lot of comic relief. I can just picture Perry in a debate against someone with even half a brain that will be entertaining.

Stasi

steph1977 said:

My UOs: I can't stand that terrible Xmas song about a boy who wants to buy shoes for his dying mother. Gag. I think it's terribly cheesy, along with every other country song that tells a long, boring story. Just sing, please. A man in jean shorts is a terrible turn-off. I think Obama is quickly steering our country down a dangerous path. I hope and pray voters wise up in 2016.

Yes.

Yes.

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo..............