@coldlife since our main office is in NY I have a lot of pregnant colleagues who are really anxious about the ban on partners. I really think it will be lifted soon since it really seems like the ban goes against all medical guidance from groups like ACOG. I really feel for people due in the next month or two who haven't really had the time to adjust to the new reality.
I had my AS yesterday and when I called in the am they confirmed I could bring one person with me. When we got there we were screened at the entrance to the hospital, but once inside the practice told us the policy had just changed and my son's dad wasn't able to stay. I definitely cries a little (all while emphasizing I totally understood the situation). I was so thrown off I didn't think to ask if I could record it...I really wish he had been able to be there to see everything, but he's way more flexible than I am and was a good sport about it. My doctor said that my 24w visit has the option to be done virtually, and after reading @roo_baby's post on the other thread I will likely take them up on that. She also said is last week they were allowing doulas to be present in addition to one support partner, but this week they aren't allowed. This is so unlike me, but I'm trying hard to not think too much about what it will be like in August since things have been changing so fast.
Yesterday I (the pregnant person) had to reassure my father in law (the very not pregnant person) that in August the hospitals would not be shut down, and that I would be able to get medical care to give birth. He was freaking out and trying to tell me I needed to prepare for a home birth. Nobody is going to let me go into labor.. not with my medical history as far as birth goes. We reminded him that it may look different than it did last time, but that though the hospitals may struggle for some time they will not just shut down. He wanted me to come back to rural Illinois where the hospitals would be less full since they wouldn't have the kind of equipment to deal with serious Covid cases... I reminded him that his local hospital almost let me die last time I gave birth so I thought I'd take my chances in the Atlanta Suburbs. He seemed to really be considering driving down to Georgia to come get me and bring me to Illinois to give birth. Also we had to remind him that August is kind of a long ways away to make predictions about a pandemic situation that literally changes daily.
In less weirdo news but on the positive side, I have a lot of family that work in medicine and they are all predicting that although things will likely not be at all normal by August, we will be a lot less frantic. Every day I'm reminding myself that this household and how we behave right now are the only things I have real control over (except the cats, they are being weird as heck and I've given up controlling them) and I am stressed but I do finally kind of feel an odd sense of peace about everything. I'm kind of wondering if that's my crisis management training and experience finally kicking in. If it is, I'm thankful for it.
@coldlife Yup. That's what I've been afraid of since the start of all this. Last night, I ordered a book about home birth, just in case things are too wild and I don't feel comfortable in a hospital setting, or in the less dramatic case that I simply don't make it there in time. I figure it can't hurt to prepare beforehand either way. I'm glad the treatment of birthing women is starting to get acknowledgment, though, because it's a real issue. As Ina May said, we are not machines. We need proper care during childbirth, and that INCLUDES the support of our choice. This can't be a one-size-fits-all, get-'em-in-and-get-'em-out policy.
I asked my girlfriend about how her mom's hospital is handling the situation. Her mom delivers babies for a living, so I wanted some insight. Their protocol is that only one person can be present with the mom, and it has to be the same person the whole time. No switching off and on. That's acceptable to me, but the second they start closing the doors and making us do this alone is when it's going to be too far.
I wasn’t sure if I should post this here or med free chatter, but since it’s somewhat covid related, I’ll post here. My plan is to go med free... we were planning on hiring a doula and I told myself when I got to 15 weeks I would start reaching out and get something lined up. Well, 15 weeks hit at the same time this crisis really started taking off and now I’m not sure what to do. At least for now, our hospital is not allowing doulas (unless you want the doula over your partner, which I don’t). I’m kind of hesitant to line up a doula (and pay for it...) if I might not be able to use it.. are people that are planning to hire doulas still hiring them or waiting a bit longer to see how things pan out?
@rivercitynik I also started crying when they told me my husband could come in (at just a normal MW appt)... I was like “I understand why but I’m still sad” in between tears 😂 Thankful I could just rely on pregnancy hormones lol. Sorry he couldn’t come to your AS though, it’s so sad 😞
@RedBaramid August is really so far a way and things are changing daily. I’ve been trying to tell myself things will be more normal by then ... but I guess they probably won’t be. If nothing else, I’m hopeful that hospitals will just have better procedures in place and have more of a rhythm for pregnant women and we won’t have so much uncertainty
I told my doctor my concerns about pregnant women not being allowed their support person in the OR, and he said that wont happen. He sits on the Board for both of the hospitals in our city, and he said that I will be allowed my husband in the OR. My state is adhering to the WHO's exception of maternity and end of life care as able to having visitors. He did say it's one person and once we are in the hospital, that's it. We can't leave. I'm hoping that will let up by the time I deliver, as I dont know that I will be comfortable with neither one of us not seeing our kids for 3+ days since I have to have another C section.
While it is great that this new policy of women L&D alone is getting the attention of the media. However, the change.org petition I saw/signed yesterday was only specific to NY hospitals. Last night they announced that some NJ (where I live) hospitals will no longer be allowing anyone in with women through labor, delivery, and recovery... no one at all. Aside from my growing anxiety (especially as a FTM), my heart is breaking for those women giving birth now when things are constantly changing. My close friend is due in three weeks and lives in FL, where she cannot seem to get a straight answer on what the hospital's current policy is. I mean if they can just take the temp of the support person and keep them in the room with the mom, wouldn't that just be ok? No swapping guests is fine with me as well. I just really do not want to be alone... I have no idea what to expect. My A/S is 4/8 and as of now MH can join me as it is in the midwife's office. I'm going to inquire about delivering in the birth center (near but not in the hospital) as I feel their rules may be slightly more lax.
@rivercitynik Aww, I'm sorry they switched the rule on you at the last minute! That's not right. But, I'm glad you had a good appt and were able to see your little guy! That would be so wild if he came on his due date (your bday) at the same hosp where you were born on your due date!!
@RedBaramid As annoying as I'm sure that was to talk your FIL off the ledge, it just shows that he really cares about you... so it's kinda sweet.
@fitandnerdy I'm in the exact same boat as you. I was planning to search and interview doulas a few weeks ago, but then all of this happened. At this point, I'm just waiting and seeing what will happen. If they wouldn't be allowed in the room with me, why spend my time and energy now? If things miraculously are clear in June or so, then I'll look. I'm pretty much banking on not having one at this point and relying on MH.
Me: 33 DH: 36 Dating 4/2008 Married 6/2016 TTC #1 9/2019 BFP 12/13/2019! EDD 8/27/2020 Baby Girl
@RedBaramid My husband works for the NHS in data and epidemiology and he’s been looking at a
lot of models in the last two weeks and made one of his own and they all predict
that the main wave of the pandemic will last three months. So hopefully things
will have calmed down. a bit before we have our babies.
At the risk of getting political, here in Texas there is so much grumbling right now about this "don't let the cure be worse than the disease" and "we can't let the economy suffer" BS. I understand that the current and upcoming economic suffering is real and needs to be minimized. I do. It's effing scary to lose your job or all your savings or fall behind on a house payment. But putting aside the fact that suggesting that anyone, much less the most vulnerable among us, should be sacrificed for our collective wallet is abhorrent, I want to yell YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT ME TOO. My unborn child and I need to stay safe because this body can't fully fight for itself right now, and we desperately need the medical community to still be standing in August, and we need the prenatal care back that is already being taken away from us.
Can't we all just quit screwing around, stay home and get to the other side of this thing together?
@emiliadkay So much this. I just -- like from a long time friend (we've had more fallings out than I can tell you, and as much as we are in the same page with some things, others....) And she's telling me about this article she read - apparently the guy made a "very compelling argument" about just letting the virus come and run its course. I was like, it didn't even compute what she was saying - I'm like, uh... It's already here? But about the economy and SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST!!!! 😵😵😵😵😵😵😵😵😵
I know a lot of people never liked the guy, and never gave him much of a chance, or say he's this big corporate-ist, but I heard him say himself, the markets will bounce back, the markets will be fine. First we need to take care of this major health crisis, and then we can fix the economy. That's the plan! IDK but that seems to make the most sense to me.
Why on Earth wouldn't we all just do what we can to spare as many lives as possible in the first place!??? I really believe there is something despicable behind it, and I can't even bear the thought.
@coldlife I’m glad this unacceptable practice is gaining traction in the news. I’ve heard of a couple hospitals that have adopted this practice in Canada. Fortunately (I guess?!) mine still is allowing one support person (which still isn’t enough for someone like me who wants her husband and her doula), but when questioned on social media our hospital reps won’t comment on whether it’ll ever go down to no support people. They say they’re taking it day by day. Yikes. I’m fortunate to have gotten in with midwives this time around so I can opt for a home birth if things get bad! I’d prefer to be in a hospital setting just in case, but won’t go to the hospital if I’m told I can’t have any support people. That would be my breaking point.
@cornichon I'm totally envious of YH job! Was his 3 month prediction based off December with the main hit in China? Or saying this will play out for 3 months total once it's established in a country, so maybe March-end of May for the US?
@emiliadkay I completely agree with you. I just wanted to also add that people who say anything along the lines of "don't let the cure be worse than the disease" do not actually understand the greatest intention of social distancing/shelter in place. To an extent it is to protect high risk individuals...but to an even greater extent it is to prevent the overwhelming of our healthcare system. If our hospitals and healthcare providers are overwhelmed with covid (supplies, equipment...i.e. ventilators, medication, hospital beds).....it is not just the elderly/high risk people who have covid that will suffer and not receive appropriate and necessary life saving care. It is EVERYONE with EVERY kind of health ailment....I am talking traumas (which include a huge group of young, healthy people!), burns, strokes, heart attacks, cancer patients receiving chemo and surgeries, etc.
@maelove EXACTLY! I came on to say exactly that - anyone that needs medical care will suffer. Good luck getting an ICU bed after a car accident, if they’re filled with covid patients. Ugh. Some people. Stay HOME!
I had my AS this week and was not allowed to bring my husband due to COVID-19 concerns. I always get nervous for ultrasounds so I was upset to go it alone, but I also understand why. Scan went well and we found out we're having a girl! My husband was on speaker phone so he got to hear at the same time, and it was still a sweet moment.
We hired a doula for my son's birth, and we were planning to use her again this time, but now that may not be possible with hospital visitor limitations under COVID-19. Between my husband and doula, I would still definitely choose my husband. But she was a huge help last time and it's a loss not to have that support! I'm due mid-August so things may be different by then, but it's still nerve-wracking. My doula actually started an online support group for expectant parents during COVID-19. That and (remote) therapy have been helping me cope with the extra anxiety!
Received this update from my midwives' office yesterday. Not unexpected, and is reasonable to me, as long as the bit about having support at birth doesn't change.
Honestly, I’m not even mad about not having to make the 45 minute drive for a five minute face-to-face check in.
Just had an appointment Wednesday and no talk of scheduling through telehealth which is an option. I asked the nurse on my way out and she said since my appointments are still 4 weeks apart and they have to monitor us closely with blood draws and the like they would not move me to telehealth as it would put us at risk too much. I'm actually relieved to keep my in person appointments. If you are having a normal healthy pregnancy sure but being high risk already it just doesn't feel safe.
@lachnessmomster That is great and totally reasonable. My clinic sent out a message the other day stating that no guests are allowed to accompany us into any appointments. We are to wait in our car until our room is ready, then enter the building and wash our hands immediately (which I'm happy to oblige!). They will also take our temperature once we enter the building. There was no mention of any changes to delivery so we will see at my AS on 4/8. I'm hoping they will let me videocall MH so he can see our baby girl and know what is going on during the appointment. The clinic is not attached to the hospital, but I get it. Not everyone is honest and truly quarantining themselves, but it still sucks. MH and I haven't left the house in over two weeks, except to walk our dog around the neighborhood.
Me: 33 DH: 36 Dating 4/2008 Married 6/2016 TTC #1 9/2019 BFP 12/13/2019! EDD 8/27/2020 Baby Girl
Just got an early notification that all maternity patients may only have 1 visitor through labor, delivery and post-delivery care. I can't imagine not having my mom there to keep me and my husband calm especially after having such a traumatic first birth. I have no words.
I spent the evening last night in labor and delivery. Was having a lot of pain. Thankfully baby is ok. They let my husband back with me so that was nice. I’m right on the border of the time frame when they only see you at the women’s hospital vs er, but because of the virus they wanted to keep me as safe as possible and away from the ER.
@fitandnerdy I was looking into a doula also. I’m a first time mom and high risk so I figure any extra support would be amazing. Now, like most places, we’re only allowed one person and it’s obviously going to be my husband. So I’m waiting it out to see if anything changes.
@lachnessmomster I just got off the phone with my midwife and she basically said the same thing as what you received, except we won’t be expected to monitor our own blood pressure (it will be checked on our short in office visits) and my practice doesn’t monitor urine anyway. Basically we’ll have a phone appointment every 6 weeks (though they scheduled my next one for April 21 and I was supposed to go in March 31 so that’s quite a big gap from my last appointment at the beginning of March). Then we will have a short in person clinical visit to check blood pressure and listen to baby. It’s fine, but I’m a bit bummed that I finally got in with the midwives on pregnancy #3 and now I’m not really getting the benefit of that as we will have short little in person visits like anywhere else. Oh well. I understand this pandemic is much bigger than me and my problems are pretty small compared to those of others right now.
So I'm struggling with how to word this thought/question. Once you are admitted to the hospital and have your baby, can you leave the hospital when you want even if it's before the two day recommendation? Obviously assuming everyone's healthy. Ive just been playing different situations out in my head. Like if COVID is still a thing, I don't want to be hanging out at the hospital after birth. With my daughter we wanted to leave the night we had her and they said we had to stay. Legally do we? Vitals were good for us. I keep getting emails from our hospital about all these restrictions and it's giving me anxiety. I know August is still far away, but trying to process everything.
Married July 2014 DD born June 2016 Second due August 2020 (team green!)
@samsonator I would love to hear more on this as well, as I've been concerned about the same thing. My husband and I always want to get out of the hospital as soon as possible. It's impossible to get any rest when nurses, doctors, pediatricians, photographers, hearing specialists, etc. etc. etc. are constantly coming in and out. I was GBS positive with DD, and since she came in a hurry, there was no time for antibiotics. Because of this, when I asked if we could go home the next day, the doctor straight up said, "You are free to go home. But your baby is not." It was literally the most condescending, asinine thing anyone has ever said to me, and it was almost like he was speaking to a child. (Again, I'd like to reiterate that this is not the practice I intended to deliver with.)
We were eventually given the free-to-go from the pediatrician who said baby had been in the hospital for 24 hours, and therefore was okay to take home. But I felt so threatened, like I didn't have any control over whether we could leave or not. That's the one of the things I can't stand about the hospital, so I've always wondered, too, if it's actually illegal to walk out? I mean, it can't possibly be, right? I just don't want it to turn into a mandatory two day stay at the hospital, which is the last place I want to be during a pandemic in the first place.
So, yeah, it's still a ways off, but I've been stressing about this, too. If anyone who's wiser in regards to the legal system has any input, I'm all ears!
@samsonator@lachnessmomster I don’t actually know the answer to your question... but at least my maternity benefits in my health insurance has a clause indicating the minimum time I must stay and that any decision to shorten it must be made by the attending physician, so depending on what the legal answer is, I would also consider looking into your health insurance
eta: I would like to think you could leave if you’ve had an uncomplicated delivery and everyone is doing well... so also interested in the actual answer to this
@samsonator@lachnessmomster@fitandnerdy I'm not sure about the legalities or what the current policy
is but this is what happens in the UK normaly. It is pretty common to go home within
24h of giving birth if you had an uncomplicated delivery and everyone is well.
Mom at a minimum needs to have passed urine and had some food, baby needs to be
doing well and had a couple of feeds. Even after a C section you would usually
go home in around 48h. But everyone gets home visits from a midwife the day
after they got home, at 3days and 5days and then you get some visits from the
heath visitor. So in theory there is no reason why you can't but it's probably
not the best idea if you’re not going to have any follow up appointments.
In case anyone is interested in this, I came across this opportunity for a webinar offered through monicaandandy.com with an OBGYN regarding all issues related to COVID-19 and pregnancy. I feel like it might be filled with a lot of "we just don't really know...", but I also thought it could be a good source of information. It sounds like there will be a live Q & A session for participants to ask specific questions. It's free. I went ahead and registered. It begins tomorrow (Sunday 3/29) 4pm CST. Here's the link if you are interested : https://monicaandandy.com/pages/9-month-network-class-series
@samsonator I’m in Canada so keep that in mind, but I did ask this question of my doula and she informed me that of course you can legally leave the hospital. They cannot hold you against your will (keeping in mind you’re not an infectious Ebola patient here, you’ve just had a baby!) but they would almost certainly send a dr to try to talk you out of leaving and make you sign something saying you’re leaving AMA (against medical advice). If there is something wrong with baby, ie badly jaundiced and needs treatment, or in our case last time, needs an ultrasound on their heart, etc, you would not be able to take baby home with you.
Have you considered going with a midwife instead of an OB? At least in Canada, if you deliver with an OB you are expected to stay the 24-48 hrs after having baby, but with a midwife you are free to go after 3-4 hrs (assuming all is well with you and baby and you’ve been able to pee). The reason for this is that midwives will come to your home to check on you and baby 24, 48, and 72 hours postpartum (usually 3 visits in the first week).
@samsonator and @lachnessmomster I have learned a few things through my daughters journey with failure to thrive. We have been blessed with nothing but good doctors but through the support group I’m in there’s definitely doctors who would take not taking their advice as abuse. @lachnessmomster I hve a feeling that’s the type of doctor you ran into. Some doctors do have a hard time with anyone who doesn’t do explicitly what they say. Certainly not all or majority but some do and those are the ones I’d be cautious of.
TTC1: May 2015
Primary IF May 2016; Failed HSG; Scheduled Lap Sept. 2016
@laur84ns I do have a midwife instead of an OB! It's different in the states though. The midwife doesn't visit your home. You have to take baby into the pediatrician after a day or two home from the hospital here.
Married July 2014 DD born June 2016 Second due August 2020 (team green!)
Theoretically, if you had an uncomplicated delivery, there's no reason you shouldn't be able to go home sooner. Delivering OOH, the minimum stay is 3 hours. There's no reason that couldn't apply to the hospital if you had a normal delivery.
Definitly check insurance because I have heard they can require longer stays. Talk to your doctor ahead of time. And I've definitely heard of people talking their doctors into allowing them to leave earlier after the baby is born.
My practice tells us things to do for that first 24 hours - monitor Mom's and baby's temp, check baby's pulse (and maybe Mom's as well?), keep an eye on your bleeding, massage your own uterus if you've been lying down for awhile until it feels firm and hard (and they show you what to do and have you feel it before you leave). And they do a home visit after 24 hours.
For what it's worth... a friend once removed (so a friend of a close friend) just had a baby in I'm not sure which state but it was baby number 3 and from labor admission to discharge was only 20 hours. That was both baby and momma in and out within 20 hours free to go uncomplicated natural birth. All I know is that Covid was an active threat in her area and this occurred about 1 week ago. It sounds like honestly they aren't keeping anyone any longer than they medically need to at this point. Last I heard momma and baby are doing just fine at home.
Like @RedBaramid said, I read that many hospitals are shortening the stays for mothers and babies due to the outbreak. They want you in and out as quickly as possible. I feel this mentality may likely carry to August.
Had our groceries delivered today and so pleased that many things were in stock! Although to be fair we did add more than ever to our cart and had nearly a page of out of stock/substituted items. I don't think we've ever had so much food in the house and am so glad for our second fridge in the basement. Feeling very grateful today. I will say that I felt like a crazy person wiping every item down with lysol prior to putting it away, then disinfecting the entire kitchen afterwards, followed by a shower. Strange times we are living in.
Me: 33 DH: 36 Dating 4/2008 Married 6/2016 TTC #1 9/2019 BFP 12/13/2019! EDD 8/27/2020 Baby Girl
@samsonator You can leave the hospital at your own will, they can't legally keep you in the US. Issues that may arise: 1) if they feel strongly you or baby should not leave they may make you sign AMA (against medical advice) form. Insurance can be tricky here because some insurances may not cover all or part of your hospitalization if you leave AMA depending so you may want to call to see what your insurance company policy is. 2. Another caveat would be if something was abnormal or wrong with baby and they wanted to keep him/her and you tried to leave..... if they were concerned enough they could consult an ethics team who may be the deciding factor as to whether baby would be aloud to leave, but is sounds like you were only talking about if everything was uncomplicated so I won't go into much detail on that.
NY just announced an executive order allowing one support person in with mothers during deliveries!! 🎉🎉🎉 Hoping NJ (and any other states applicable) follow suit 🙏
Me: 33 DH: 36 Dating 4/2008 Married 6/2016 TTC #1 9/2019 BFP 12/13/2019! EDD 8/27/2020 Baby Girl
@ziggymama06 I will have to try and schedule my first delivery this week as well. DH went to Costco this morning as soon as they opened, and he got a lot of great stuff! But we really needed was milk, and due to the purchase limits we weren't able to get nearly enough, not to get us through two weeks worth, let alone any more than that. So I guess he'll be trying to make <i>another</i> trip or two out in the next 24 hours or so, and /or whatever we get delivered.
It's just so frustrating, because we have so much food! And that is a great feeling! But not the ONE THING we need for DD... 😣 and to top it off they only have purchase limits on things like milk and eggs, but not ground beef for example. So he wasn't sure if he wanted to get that exactly, so he stepped away from the ground beef, and by the time he came back to get it, it was . all gone. 🤦 Really tho??? Ughh. People.
@BusinessWife Ugh how frustrating!! The deliveries seem to book up two weeks out, so we blocked ours a while ago. My parents were able to get milk at CVS when the went to the drive thru to pick up a prescription. May be easier to run to a pharmacy than into a supermaket? Good luck!!
Me: 33 DH: 36 Dating 4/2008 Married 6/2016 TTC #1 9/2019 BFP 12/13/2019! EDD 8/27/2020 Baby Girl
@ziggymama06@BusinessWife I've been trying to book another delivery for a week now,
and you can't even get onto the website of my supermarket without a que. Nearly
all the supermarkets that do delivery in the UK are only letting existing
customers book deliveries, except mine
. Thankfully my husband has done his 7days isolation so he was able to
go out yesterday and get food. I haven't really had significant enough symptoms
(I was hot on two occasions but not a fever and I still have a cough from
before but it's been a bit worse, I've also had headaches and muscle aches) to
have a definitive day of when to start my 7day count down so I've still got the
best part of a week to go. FYI I'm feeling fine, I felt ill on Tuesday but pretty much fine since then.
It's looking quite likely that we've had C19 as my husband
was in contact with several people who have had suspected cases and he works in
the NHS but not as a front-line worker. There is also more evidence coming out
that more people than previously thought have mild or asymptomatic cases. Of
course, we won't know until they have an antibody test and they start testing
on mass. I'm really hoping that we have had it as it was mild, and I won't have
to worry as much.
Re: Covid-19 Thread
I had my AS yesterday and when I called in the am they confirmed I could bring one person with me. When we got there we were screened at the entrance to the hospital, but once inside the practice told us the policy had just changed and my son's dad wasn't able to stay. I definitely cries a little (all while emphasizing I totally understood the situation). I was so thrown off I didn't think to ask if I could record it...I really wish he had been able to be there to see everything, but he's way more flexible than I am and was a good sport about it. My doctor said that my 24w visit has the option to be done virtually, and after reading @roo_baby's post on the other thread I will likely take them up on that. She also said is last week they were allowing doulas to be present in addition to one support partner, but this week they aren't allowed. This is so unlike me, but I'm trying hard to not think too much about what it will be like in August since things have been changing so fast.
In less weirdo news but on the positive side, I have a lot of family that work in medicine and they are all predicting that although things will likely not be at all normal by August, we will be a lot less frantic. Every day I'm reminding myself that this household and how we behave right now are the only things I have real control over (except the cats, they are being weird as heck and I've given up controlling them) and I am stressed but I do finally kind of feel an odd sense of peace about everything. I'm kind of wondering if that's my crisis management training and experience finally kicking in. If it is, I'm thankful for it.
I asked my girlfriend about how her mom's hospital is handling the situation. Her mom delivers babies for a living, so I wanted some insight. Their protocol is that only one person can be present with the mom, and it has to be the same person the whole time. No switching off and on. That's acceptable to me, but the second they start closing the doors and making us do this alone is when it's going to be too far.
@RedBaramid August is really so far a way and things are changing daily. I’ve been trying to tell myself things will be more normal by then ... but I guess they probably won’t be. If nothing else, I’m hopeful that hospitals will just have better procedures in place and have more of a rhythm for pregnant women and we won’t have so much uncertainty
@rivercitynik Aww, I'm sorry they switched the rule on you at the last minute! That's not right. But, I'm glad you had a good appt and were able to see your little guy! That would be so wild if he came on his due date (your bday) at the same hosp where you were born on your due date!!
@RedBaramid As annoying as I'm sure that was to talk your FIL off the ledge, it just shows that he really cares about you... so it's kinda sweet.
@fitandnerdy I'm in the exact same boat as you. I was planning to search and interview doulas a few weeks ago, but then all of this happened. At this point, I'm just waiting and seeing what will happen. If they wouldn't be allowed in the room with me, why spend my time and energy now? If things miraculously are clear in June or so, then I'll look. I'm pretty much banking on not having one at this point and relying on MH.
Dating 4/2008
Married 6/2016
TTC #1 9/2019
BFP 12/13/2019!
EDD 8/27/2020 Baby Girl
I know a lot of people never liked the guy, and never gave him much of a chance, or say he's this big corporate-ist, but I heard him say himself, the markets will bounce back, the markets will be fine. First we need to take care of this major health crisis, and then we can fix the economy. That's the plan! IDK but that seems to make the most sense to me.
Why on Earth wouldn't we all just do what we can to spare as many lives as possible in the first place!??? I really believe there is something despicable behind it, and I can't even bear the thought.
We hired a doula for my son's birth, and we were planning to use her again this time, but now that may not be possible with hospital visitor limitations under COVID-19. Between my husband and doula, I would still definitely choose my husband. But she was a huge help last time and it's a loss not to have that support! I'm due mid-August so things may be different by then, but it's still nerve-wracking. My doula actually started an online support group for expectant parents during COVID-19. That and (remote) therapy have been helping me cope with the extra anxiety!
Dating 4/2008
Married 6/2016
TTC #1 9/2019
BFP 12/13/2019!
EDD 8/27/2020 Baby Girl
I keep getting emails from our hospital about all these restrictions and it's giving me anxiety. I know August is still far away, but trying to process everything.
DD born June 2016
Second due August 2020 (team green!)
We were eventually given the free-to-go from the pediatrician who said baby had been in the hospital for 24 hours, and therefore was okay to take home. But I felt so threatened, like I didn't have any control over whether we could leave or not. That's the one of the things I can't stand about the hospital, so I've always wondered, too, if it's actually illegal to walk out? I mean, it can't possibly be, right? I just don't want it to turn into a mandatory two day stay at the hospital, which is the last place I want to be during a pandemic in the first place.
So, yeah, it's still a ways off, but I've been stressing about this, too. If anyone who's wiser in regards to the legal system has any input, I'm all ears!
eta: I would like to think you could leave if you’ve had an uncomplicated delivery and everyone is doing well... so also interested in the actual answer to this
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DD born June 2016
Second due August 2020 (team green!)
Definitly check insurance because I have heard they can require longer stays. Talk to your doctor ahead of time. And I've definitely heard of people talking their doctors into allowing them to leave earlier after the baby is born.
My practice tells us things to do for that first 24 hours - monitor Mom's and baby's temp, check baby's pulse (and maybe Mom's as well?), keep an eye on your bleeding, massage your own uterus if you've been lying down for awhile until it feels firm and hard (and they show you what to do and have you feel it before you leave). And they do a home visit after 24 hours.
Had our groceries delivered today and so pleased that many things were in stock! Although to be fair we did add more than ever to our cart and had nearly a page of out of stock/substituted items. I don't think we've ever had so much food in the house and am so glad for our second fridge in the basement. Feeling very grateful today. I will say that I felt like a crazy person wiping every item down with lysol prior to putting it away, then disinfecting the entire kitchen afterwards, followed by a shower. Strange times we are living in.
Dating 4/2008
Married 6/2016
TTC #1 9/2019
BFP 12/13/2019!
EDD 8/27/2020 Baby Girl
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Dating 4/2008
Married 6/2016
TTC #1 9/2019
BFP 12/13/2019!
EDD 8/27/2020 Baby Girl
Dating 4/2008
Married 6/2016
TTC #1 9/2019
BFP 12/13/2019!
EDD 8/27/2020 Baby Girl
DD born June 2016
Second due August 2020 (team green!)
1) if they feel strongly you or baby should not leave they may make you sign AMA (against medical advice) form. Insurance can be tricky here because some insurances may not cover all or part of your hospitalization if you leave AMA depending so you may want to call to see what your insurance company policy is.
2. Another caveat would be if something was abnormal or wrong with baby and they wanted to keep him/her and you tried to leave..... if they were concerned enough they could consult an ethics team who may be the deciding factor as to whether baby would be aloud to leave, but is sounds like you were only talking about if everything was uncomplicated so I won't go into much detail on that.
Dating 4/2008
Married 6/2016
TTC #1 9/2019
BFP 12/13/2019!
EDD 8/27/2020 Baby Girl
It's just so frustrating, because we have so much food! And that is a great feeling! But not the ONE THING we need for DD... 😣 and to top it off they only have purchase limits on things like milk and eggs, but not ground beef for example. So he wasn't sure if he wanted to get that exactly, so he stepped away from the ground beef, and by the time he came back to get it, it was . all gone. 🤦 Really tho??? Ughh. People.
Dating 4/2008
Married 6/2016
TTC #1 9/2019
BFP 12/13/2019!
EDD 8/27/2020 Baby Girl
@ziggymama06 @BusinessWife I've been trying to book another delivery for a week now, and you can't even get onto the website of my supermarket without a que. Nearly all the supermarkets that do delivery in the UK are only letting existing customers book deliveries, except mine
. Thankfully my husband has done his 7days isolation so he was able to
go out yesterday and get food. I haven't really had significant enough symptoms
(I was hot on two occasions but not a fever and I still have a cough from
before but it's been a bit worse, I've also had headaches and muscle aches) to
have a definitive day of when to start my 7day count down so I've still got the
best part of a week to go. FYI I'm feeling fine, I felt ill on Tuesday but pretty much fine since then.
It's looking quite likely that we've had C19 as my husband was in contact with several people who have had suspected cases and he works in the NHS but not as a front-line worker. There is also more evidence coming out that more people than previously thought have mild or asymptomatic cases. Of course, we won't know until they have an antibody test and they start testing on mass. I'm really hoping that we have had it as it was mild, and I won't have to worry as much.