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Re: WTO Monday 10/29
R/R: no rants even though it’s Monday! Rave- had a lot of fun last night celebrating our anniversary. Now we’re waiting on room service so I’m killing time trying not to think about how hungry I am!
*edited to change cycle#
Month/Cycle: 6/6
@b_1029 happy anniversary!!
@marebear15 I'm totally the same way with Christmas. Last year my hubby made me wait until the first snow to decorate...it was barely a dusting but I was like "I'm calling it!!". Can't say what's going on in your chart but your temps still look pretty low, so maybe no O yet? Or maybe just about to rise?
Month/cycle:5
CD: 15
WAYDTGKU: this month, honestly not much. BBT, CM, trying to eat better but this wasn't a banner week for me.
R/R: so, due to my and my hubby's crazy travel schedule, we hardly got any HIOs in this cycle. In fact, I may already be in the TWW but I honestly have no idea what's going on with my chart this month, so I guess I'll just move over there tomorrow? It sucks not having any idea where I belong, but it's also strangely liberating! Like a little break where I don't have to try to overthink things because it doesn't matter much either way.
@b_1029 happy anniversary! Sounds like a great weekend! Room service is my favorite.
Month/Cycle: benched
R/R: My first fertility appt is on Wednesday and I’m getting anxious. I’m really hoping this will get us some answers.
Ive finally set an alarm to wake up for temping. The end of last cycles chart looks so much better than the beginning lol. Hopefully this cycles temping goes well too.
@marebear15 it was definitely what the doctor ordered and we’re just in a hotel downtown where we live so more of a staycation! I wish I could help with your chart but I’m so bad at interpreting things
@kbrown2385 GL at your appointment! I’m not sure about questions to ask, I definitely didn’t prepare for ours and wish I did, so good job!
R/R: Rant: I worked late last night and barely got any good sleep, which is why I haven't started temping yet. I work late again today (12 hour day) but I hope I can wake up to temp tomorrow AM. It's hard for me to pick a temping time because some mornings I have to be up by 6:00 and others I can sleep in because I work at night. My H will also have to deal with my alarm waking him up when he is sleeping in too Oh well, also I need to clean my house so that's driving me nuts but i'm just so over it with how work has been going.
Rave: I bought two mini pumpkins and they're super cute. H and I were looking at puppies and I want one a lot but we already have a dog and I worry about house training with our crazy schedules. Also even though its Monday it's a new week and I hope it's better than last!
@b_1029 Congrats on your anniversary!! Room service sounds so good right now! & yay for better temps! FX for a pretty chart
@marebear15 Ah yes!! I was just thinking the other day at work that I can't wait to listen to Christmas music. I love Halloween and Thanksgiving but Christmas music puts me in a great mood! Unfortunately my crew this year is very different than last year so I probably won't be able to listen to it at work I think with your chart those high temps before all the other signs (CM/OPK) are confusing FF. If they were lower I would def say it looks like O. Was anything different about those temps? Maybe tomorrow's temp will be a bigger jump! I would keep HIO if possible just in case!
@kbrown2385 Hoping you find answers at your appt!
Edit: poor choice of words/added some
@marebear15 I'm definitely already thinking ahead to Christmas. I was putting up our Halloween decorations yesterday, lol a little late but I wasn't totally sure we were even going to decorate this year, and as I was doing it I was visualizing what I'd put there for xmas instead. Since we've already had our Canadian Thanksgiving we can roll right into Christmas after Halloween. And I'm just as stumped by your chart as you are.
@jennifer_louise hi girl, welcome back! How did your week of traveling go?
@kbrown2385 I also have an appointment coming up two weeks from today. I know there's a list of questions floating around, I wish I had bookmarked it. This might be something you could post in the CS/Q thread. If you don't, I will at some point because I need to make a list too.
R/R: Finally starting to feel better. Tried to HIO last night but I think the pressure got to my SO after taking a 3 day break and despite our very best efforts it was a NF. We really gave it our all so now trying to muster up the strength to try again tonight. It's the best kind of exhausted but we need to start earlier, lol, I'm too old for these late night shenanigans.
TTC History:
Me: 36 MH: 39, TTC since Dec 2017
Aug '18: PCOS dx
Nov '18: MH SA - 19mil
Dec '18-Mar '19: Letrozole + TI - all BFN
Apr '19: Letrozole + TI, - BFN. Repeat SA (27mil) & DNA fragmentation test (17%)
Aug '19: Letrozole + HCG trigger + IUI + prog supp - BFN (MH: 16mil)
Sep '19: 2nd IUI, same protocol - BFN (MH: 16mil)
Dec '19: IVF #1 w/ICSI, PGT. 5 retrieved, 4 fertilized, 3 blasts, 3 PGT-A normal.
Mar '20: FET #1, perfect 5AA blast transferred. BFN.
Sept '20: FET #2, 5BB tsf. 9/18/20 BFP!! EDD: 5/27/21. MMC 11w
Feb ‘21: FET #3, last 6BB blast transferred. BFP, EDD 11/2/21. MC 5w3d.
May '21: IVF #2 w/ICSI, PGT. 8R, 7M, 6F, 6 blasts - 3AB, 3AB, 3BB, 4BB, 5BB, 6BA. Fresh tsf 5/13/21 - BFN.
June '21: PGT-A results = 3 abnormal, 1 low level mosaic. Referred to new REI, had consult with 2nd RE in between.
Sept '21: RPL, immune testing normal
Oct '21: IVF #3 w/IMSI, PGT. 33R, 26M, 23F, 9 blasts (7 day 6, 2 day 7). PGT-A = 5 normal, 1 mosaic
Dec '21: Positive for endometritis, RX Flagyl & Keflex
Jan '22: FET #5 - Kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol incl. PRP, intralipids, prednisone, medrol, nivestym, fragmin - CP
Feb '22: FET #6 - Kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol w/higher doses of pred & fragmin - BFN
Mar '22: Mock cycle for ERA - cancelled, repeat endometrial biopsy instead. Still positive for endometritis. RX ciprofloxacin & amoxicillin.
Apr '22: IVF #4 w/IMSI, PGT. 28R, 23M, 16F, 11 blasts. PGT-A = 6 normal.
June '22: FET #7 - Microdose lupron downreg w/kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol - double embryo transfer. BFN.
July '22: FET #8 - Mini stim w/Puregon + trigger, kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol. BFN.
Sep '22: Taking a break
Dec '22: Attempted abdominal myomectomy, fibroid too close to cervix and major blood vessels. Wasn't removed.
Feb '23: FET #9 - Modified natural w/baby asp, HCG trigger, PIO, PRP, Medrol, HCG wash, embryo glue - BFP!! EDD 11/11/23
@jiraiya - The only thing different that I can think of is the weather changed right around my first dip. But the house has stayed the same temperature, so I don't know if that would make a difference in my core temp.
@jiraiya that's definitely hard to temp when your schedule isn't consistent. It's doable, but complicates things. What kind of puppy are you looking at? Our cousins had their puppy over on the weekend and he's just so full of energy, and not fully house trained yet, so while he was amusing I'm glad he's gone lol. On the bright side, he ate all the cat poop out of the litter boxes so I don't have to clean them?
Edited because words are hard.
TTC History:
Me: 36 MH: 39, TTC since Dec 2017
Aug '18: PCOS dx
Nov '18: MH SA - 19mil
Dec '18-Mar '19: Letrozole + TI - all BFN
Apr '19: Letrozole + TI, - BFN. Repeat SA (27mil) & DNA fragmentation test (17%)
Aug '19: Letrozole + HCG trigger + IUI + prog supp - BFN (MH: 16mil)
Sep '19: 2nd IUI, same protocol - BFN (MH: 16mil)
Dec '19: IVF #1 w/ICSI, PGT. 5 retrieved, 4 fertilized, 3 blasts, 3 PGT-A normal.
Mar '20: FET #1, perfect 5AA blast transferred. BFN.
Sept '20: FET #2, 5BB tsf. 9/18/20 BFP!! EDD: 5/27/21. MMC 11w
Feb ‘21: FET #3, last 6BB blast transferred. BFP, EDD 11/2/21. MC 5w3d.
May '21: IVF #2 w/ICSI, PGT. 8R, 7M, 6F, 6 blasts - 3AB, 3AB, 3BB, 4BB, 5BB, 6BA. Fresh tsf 5/13/21 - BFN.
June '21: PGT-A results = 3 abnormal, 1 low level mosaic. Referred to new REI, had consult with 2nd RE in between.
Sept '21: RPL, immune testing normal
Oct '21: IVF #3 w/IMSI, PGT. 33R, 26M, 23F, 9 blasts (7 day 6, 2 day 7). PGT-A = 5 normal, 1 mosaic
Dec '21: Positive for endometritis, RX Flagyl & Keflex
Jan '22: FET #5 - Kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol incl. PRP, intralipids, prednisone, medrol, nivestym, fragmin - CP
Feb '22: FET #6 - Kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol w/higher doses of pred & fragmin - BFN
Mar '22: Mock cycle for ERA - cancelled, repeat endometrial biopsy instead. Still positive for endometritis. RX ciprofloxacin & amoxicillin.
Apr '22: IVF #4 w/IMSI, PGT. 28R, 23M, 16F, 11 blasts. PGT-A = 6 normal.
June '22: FET #7 - Microdose lupron downreg w/kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol - double embryo transfer. BFN.
July '22: FET #8 - Mini stim w/Puregon + trigger, kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol. BFN.
Sep '22: Taking a break
Dec '22: Attempted abdominal myomectomy, fibroid too close to cervix and major blood vessels. Wasn't removed.
Feb '23: FET #9 - Modified natural w/baby asp, HCG trigger, PIO, PRP, Medrol, HCG wash, embryo glue - BFP!! EDD 11/11/23
@marebear15: I usually procrastinate with all things christmas.. but this year I’d like to decorate and start baking and shopping earlier so I can enjoy it rather than getting stressed! Will you be putting up the tree Nov 1st? Not sure what’s going on with your chart.. maybe just a slower rise in temps and it will be more clear in a few days?
@jennifer_louise : Sorry you didn’t get more HIO this month. It sucks when life gets in the way during your FW. FX for you!
@kbrown2385 : Hope that you get some answers at your appointment!
@jiraiya : I hear you about working late! I work 12-hr rotating day/night shifts. Aw puppies! What kind were you looking at? Hope you have a great week!
Month/Cycle: 2/2
CD: 14
WAYDTGKU: Ava, CM, HIO, OPKs
R/R: Work the next 2 nights.. my schedule is getting in the way of HIO! Maybe we’ll have time if DH gets home early. I’m looking forward to the week ahead with Halloween and my mom is also coming in for a few days.
CS/Q: + OPK yesterday! No EWCM yet so just waiting to see what happens.
TTC since 9/2018
10/19- First RE visit
2/20- DH had surgery for bilateral varicoceles
7/20- IUI with 5 mg letrozole- BFN
9/20- IVF. 9 eggs retrieved, 9 mature, 8 fertilized with ICSI, 7 blasts, 4 PGT-A normal
11/20- Mock transfer/ERA
12/20- FET #1- transferred one 4AB- BFN
3/21- FET #2- transferred one 3AB- BFP! Due Dec 2021
12/21- Baby girl born!
TTC since 9/2018
10/19- First RE visit
2/20- DH had surgery for bilateral varicoceles
7/20- IUI with 5 mg letrozole- BFN
9/20- IVF. 9 eggs retrieved, 9 mature, 8 fertilized with ICSI, 7 blasts, 4 PGT-A normal
11/20- Mock transfer/ERA
12/20- FET #1- transferred one 4AB- BFN
3/21- FET #2- transferred one 3AB- BFP! Due Dec 2021
12/21- Baby girl born!
@dogmomma096 happy O / HIO day!
@misshelen86 boo to work messing with your schedule!
R/R: Weekend was great! Had fun with my SIL and her BF down by the beach. We might have crappy timing this cycle because of DH’s back to back work trips, but eh, what can you do? I'm hoping O is picture perfect and right on time this weekend!
CS/Q: Nah, we good.
@b_1029 HAPPY ANNIVERSARY!! I hope that breakfast was delicious!!
@marebear15 I told DH I was busting out the Christmas tree this coming weekend and he was a bit apprehensive at first, but I figured since we spent a lot for a faux tree we should get our money’s worth and put that puppy up for 2 whole months!! Lol. Plus, it takes a while to style all the branches the way I like them.
@jennnifer_louise Ugh, I feel you on the SO’s crazy work schedule. Ours is going to be dying down for a couple months, but then when the new year comes it starts all over again! Lol.
@kbrown2385 I’m not sure what Q’s to ask. Did you have you and your SO’s bloodwork/SA analysis yet? Maybe discuss those results and see what they think the best course of action would be.
@dogmomma096 Go get it girl!
@jiraiya I feel you on the house cleaning situation. It feels like all I ever do is clean...and yet my house isn’t as clean as I would like!
@kiki047 I briefly thought about getting out my Halloween decorations this weekend and decorating...but then I bought a pumpkin, put it on the front porch and figured that was enough decorating for me! Lol. Way easier than moving stuff around in the garage to get to my Halloween decorations.
@misshelen86 Yay for Mom visits! There is nothing like a Mom hug.
@marebear15 I already started pulling out my Christmas stuff at work LOL. Don't feel guilty - give into the urge!
@jennifer_louise Sorry your crazy schedules and weird chart! Hopefully it sorts itself out and you were able to HIO in your window!
@kbrown2385 GL at your fertility appointment! Glad temping is going well.
@jiraiya Hopefully you'll be able to get in a rhythm of temping! I'm sorry work has been a little crazy - I get it! Sometimes house chores have to wait! And puppies! I want another so badly but we have to at least wait until we get a bigger house!
@dogmomma096 YAY on the O!!!
@kiki047 I feel like it was ages ago that you had to reschedule that dang RE appointment! Glad it's finally close! Glad you are feeling better. Hopefully you can sneak in a HIO session a little earlier!!!
@misshelen86 Sorry about the schedules! FX YH gets home early! Have fun spending time with your mom !
@lillywonderland Happy you had fun this weekend! FX you're able to have that perfect O timing!
R/R: It's MONDAY. I am super motivated today to get to the gym so hopefully in 4 hours I will feel the same lol.
CS/Q: Not too much going on here. My sleep is all sorts of weird so I missed a couple days of temping.
Diagnosed with PCOS & Hashimoto's
TTC History:
Me: 36 MH: 39, TTC since Dec 2017
Aug '18: PCOS dx
Nov '18: MH SA - 19mil
Dec '18-Mar '19: Letrozole + TI - all BFN
Apr '19: Letrozole + TI, - BFN. Repeat SA (27mil) & DNA fragmentation test (17%)
Aug '19: Letrozole + HCG trigger + IUI + prog supp - BFN (MH: 16mil)
Sep '19: 2nd IUI, same protocol - BFN (MH: 16mil)
Dec '19: IVF #1 w/ICSI, PGT. 5 retrieved, 4 fertilized, 3 blasts, 3 PGT-A normal.
Mar '20: FET #1, perfect 5AA blast transferred. BFN.
Sept '20: FET #2, 5BB tsf. 9/18/20 BFP!! EDD: 5/27/21. MMC 11w
Feb ‘21: FET #3, last 6BB blast transferred. BFP, EDD 11/2/21. MC 5w3d.
May '21: IVF #2 w/ICSI, PGT. 8R, 7M, 6F, 6 blasts - 3AB, 3AB, 3BB, 4BB, 5BB, 6BA. Fresh tsf 5/13/21 - BFN.
June '21: PGT-A results = 3 abnormal, 1 low level mosaic. Referred to new REI, had consult with 2nd RE in between.
Sept '21: RPL, immune testing normal
Oct '21: IVF #3 w/IMSI, PGT. 33R, 26M, 23F, 9 blasts (7 day 6, 2 day 7). PGT-A = 5 normal, 1 mosaic
Dec '21: Positive for endometritis, RX Flagyl & Keflex
Jan '22: FET #5 - Kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol incl. PRP, intralipids, prednisone, medrol, nivestym, fragmin - CP
Feb '22: FET #6 - Kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol w/higher doses of pred & fragmin - BFN
Mar '22: Mock cycle for ERA - cancelled, repeat endometrial biopsy instead. Still positive for endometritis. RX ciprofloxacin & amoxicillin.
Apr '22: IVF #4 w/IMSI, PGT. 28R, 23M, 16F, 11 blasts. PGT-A = 6 normal.
June '22: FET #7 - Microdose lupron downreg w/kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol - double embryo transfer. BFN.
July '22: FET #8 - Mini stim w/Puregon + trigger, kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol. BFN.
Sep '22: Taking a break
Dec '22: Attempted abdominal myomectomy, fibroid too close to cervix and major blood vessels. Wasn't removed.
Feb '23: FET #9 - Modified natural w/baby asp, HCG trigger, PIO, PRP, Medrol, HCG wash, embryo glue - BFP!! EDD 11/11/23
Diagnosed with PCOS & Hashimoto's
TTC History:
Me: 36 MH: 39, TTC since Dec 2017
Aug '18: PCOS dx
Nov '18: MH SA - 19mil
Dec '18-Mar '19: Letrozole + TI - all BFN
Apr '19: Letrozole + TI, - BFN. Repeat SA (27mil) & DNA fragmentation test (17%)
Aug '19: Letrozole + HCG trigger + IUI + prog supp - BFN (MH: 16mil)
Sep '19: 2nd IUI, same protocol - BFN (MH: 16mil)
Dec '19: IVF #1 w/ICSI, PGT. 5 retrieved, 4 fertilized, 3 blasts, 3 PGT-A normal.
Mar '20: FET #1, perfect 5AA blast transferred. BFN.
Sept '20: FET #2, 5BB tsf. 9/18/20 BFP!! EDD: 5/27/21. MMC 11w
Feb ‘21: FET #3, last 6BB blast transferred. BFP, EDD 11/2/21. MC 5w3d.
May '21: IVF #2 w/ICSI, PGT. 8R, 7M, 6F, 6 blasts - 3AB, 3AB, 3BB, 4BB, 5BB, 6BA. Fresh tsf 5/13/21 - BFN.
June '21: PGT-A results = 3 abnormal, 1 low level mosaic. Referred to new REI, had consult with 2nd RE in between.
Sept '21: RPL, immune testing normal
Oct '21: IVF #3 w/IMSI, PGT. 33R, 26M, 23F, 9 blasts (7 day 6, 2 day 7). PGT-A = 5 normal, 1 mosaic
Dec '21: Positive for endometritis, RX Flagyl & Keflex
Jan '22: FET #5 - Kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol incl. PRP, intralipids, prednisone, medrol, nivestym, fragmin - CP
Feb '22: FET #6 - Kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol w/higher doses of pred & fragmin - BFN
Mar '22: Mock cycle for ERA - cancelled, repeat endometrial biopsy instead. Still positive for endometritis. RX ciprofloxacin & amoxicillin.
Apr '22: IVF #4 w/IMSI, PGT. 28R, 23M, 16F, 11 blasts. PGT-A = 6 normal.
June '22: FET #7 - Microdose lupron downreg w/kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol - double embryo transfer. BFN.
July '22: FET #8 - Mini stim w/Puregon + trigger, kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol. BFN.
Sep '22: Taking a break
Dec '22: Attempted abdominal myomectomy, fibroid too close to cervix and major blood vessels. Wasn't removed.
Feb '23: FET #9 - Modified natural w/baby asp, HCG trigger, PIO, PRP, Medrol, HCG wash, embryo glue - BFP!! EDD 11/11/23
@marebear15 Sounds like you're having similar issues with OPKs. I don't have much insight but hopefully your temps continue to go up over the next few days!
@jennifer_louise I'm glad you're able to take a break from stressing about your chart instead of obsessing!
@kbrown2385 I hope you get some answers soon and that any issues are relatively easy to fix!
@jiraiya I'm sorry your work schedule is keeping you from getting consistent temps. I hope you find something that works for you!
@kiki047 GL with HIO tonight - the struggle is real!
@misshelen86 Yay for +OPK! I hope you and your H find time to HIO!
@lillywonderland Glad you had a great weekend!!
@brookert615 I hope you make it to the gym!
Month/Cycle: 6/5
R/R: This is a short week for me so I just need to make it to Wednesday!! My OB appt is scheduled for next Tuesday to discuss Clomid. I'll hopefully be in the middle of TWW by then which I guess is good timing if we are going to start Clomid next cycle. I have mixed feelings.
*Edit to fix my chart. Realized I put in today’s RHR as 98.5 instead of 68.5 lol. Looks better now!
Diagnosed with PCOS & Hashimoto's
TTC History:
Me: 36 MH: 39, TTC since Dec 2017
Aug '18: PCOS dx
Nov '18: MH SA - 19mil
Dec '18-Mar '19: Letrozole + TI - all BFN
Apr '19: Letrozole + TI, - BFN. Repeat SA (27mil) & DNA fragmentation test (17%)
Aug '19: Letrozole + HCG trigger + IUI + prog supp - BFN (MH: 16mil)
Sep '19: 2nd IUI, same protocol - BFN (MH: 16mil)
Dec '19: IVF #1 w/ICSI, PGT. 5 retrieved, 4 fertilized, 3 blasts, 3 PGT-A normal.
Mar '20: FET #1, perfect 5AA blast transferred. BFN.
Sept '20: FET #2, 5BB tsf. 9/18/20 BFP!! EDD: 5/27/21. MMC 11w
Feb ‘21: FET #3, last 6BB blast transferred. BFP, EDD 11/2/21. MC 5w3d.
May '21: IVF #2 w/ICSI, PGT. 8R, 7M, 6F, 6 blasts - 3AB, 3AB, 3BB, 4BB, 5BB, 6BA. Fresh tsf 5/13/21 - BFN.
June '21: PGT-A results = 3 abnormal, 1 low level mosaic. Referred to new REI, had consult with 2nd RE in between.
Sept '21: RPL, immune testing normal
Oct '21: IVF #3 w/IMSI, PGT. 33R, 26M, 23F, 9 blasts (7 day 6, 2 day 7). PGT-A = 5 normal, 1 mosaic
Dec '21: Positive for endometritis, RX Flagyl & Keflex
Jan '22: FET #5 - Kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol incl. PRP, intralipids, prednisone, medrol, nivestym, fragmin - CP
Feb '22: FET #6 - Kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol w/higher doses of pred & fragmin - BFN
Mar '22: Mock cycle for ERA - cancelled, repeat endometrial biopsy instead. Still positive for endometritis. RX ciprofloxacin & amoxicillin.
Apr '22: IVF #4 w/IMSI, PGT. 28R, 23M, 16F, 11 blasts. PGT-A = 6 normal.
June '22: FET #7 - Microdose lupron downreg w/kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol - double embryo transfer. BFN.
July '22: FET #8 - Mini stim w/Puregon + trigger, kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol. BFN.
Sep '22: Taking a break
Dec '22: Attempted abdominal myomectomy, fibroid too close to cervix and major blood vessels. Wasn't removed.
Feb '23: FET #9 - Modified natural w/baby asp, HCG trigger, PIO, PRP, Medrol, HCG wash, embryo glue - BFP!! EDD 11/11/23
@misshelen86 Thank you!! I hope you do too! 12 hours is not fun! My back and feet definitely start to hurt and I get cranky Props to you for that being your usual schedule. Hope you had some time with your H & thats exciting that your mom is coming to town!
@lillywonderland Sounds like you had a great weekend!! Hoping your timing is still enough for you this cycle. & yes about the cleaning! I feel like I clean what I can and then it's right back to being dirty such is life.
@brookert615 Thank you!! I'm hoping I can too! & we should probably wait for more space too but we will see. Hope your motivation lasted for you! Mine is always very short-lived.
@dogmomma096 Thank you!! Hope you O-ed! Your timing looks pretty great!!
@kiki047 @misshelen86 Probably another rescue pup! The shelter we got our dog from had a puppy but she got adopted today so we will keep checking! (We haven't had a chance to visit because of work ) Our current dog is 70 lbs so we were looking for maybe a smaller one to balance it out lol. No rush so we are just waiting until we find the perfect addition to our family!