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Oct 2018 FET

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Re: Oct 2018 FET

  • @Bababatty I totally understand! and I hate spending money on HPT, especially because I haven't seen BFP since 2015! so I feel like I have been wasting money and you're FRER are not cheap! ugh! I don't have anymore so just the thought knowing that I will have to buy them pretty soon makes me mad, hope it will be for the best this time around.
    @hereforthebabies that's a great lining, I agree with @Bababatty and I will ask for a redo if there are trying to cancel your cycle 
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  • Hey y’all...just checking in. You guys are all so good at @ing people and responding to everyone. Maybe it’s because I joined late but I get confused and don’t remember who said what about what. I think i need a notepad to take notes as i am scrolling. Anywho just know that I read each and every post and if I feel I have something to add, I respond. But I am here lurking in the background and squeezing for each and every one of you beautiful people!

    my estrogen is now up to 2mg 3 times a day from twice a day, and a marked effect happens just like the last go round. As my estrogen increases, my husbands annoyingness does as well lol. Yes i just made up the word annoyingness. Dear God I love him deeply but man is he annoying. But then I take a step back and realize that he is still the same hubby he has always been but the estrogen seems to affect my patience in general but mostly with him. 

    I am also having some negative thoughts this go round which I’m trying to fight. Last transfer I was so optimistic but the chem preg put a damper on that positivity this time around. That being said, i start acupuncture tomorrow and hoping that helps my mindset! 
  • @Bababatty TRUST ME it’s not easy but honestly 2 weeks isn't the end of the world considering how long I have been waiting... its a very long story. I'm just happy that we are moving forward at this point.  I have Lost my sh*t more than a few times during this process so MH knows when we walk into these appointments he has to take the reins or it’s gonna go down... I try And sit there calmly so they don’t think I’m more BSC than they already think I am. Also you know 5dp5dt is a lil too early.. I’m hoping it’s a fluke and you’ll start to see an awesome line progression! 

    @hereforthebabies GOOD LAWDY 14.5?!?? That’s one plump lining!!! 
  • @hereforthebabies that's so frustrating that they didn't seem like they were comfortable or competent.  the last thing you want is a cancelled cycle because of someone else's mistake - if they try to cancel you i'd ask for another US too.

    @MamaK225 & @Griffin5413 how many dpt are you guys? any symptoms? (7dpt) i got pretty much nothing over here except some very slight twinges (likely nothing at all, probably random neurons firing) and things that are explained by the PIO (a little nausea, sleepiness) but no spotting or even sore boobs.

    also what is everyone's plan regarding letting people in your lives know about beta results?  i have several people that know i'll find out next week and i'm just not sure how to handle dispersing the information, whether it's bad or good.
    TTC History in Spoiler
    Me: 29  DH:34
    TTC 21 cycles
    All TI cycles BFN (with letrozole, ovidrel, prometrium)
    Hysteroscopy + Polypectomy + D&C on 1/3
    IUI #1 February 6, BFP 2/21, CP 2/26
    IUI #2 March 14, BFN
    IUI #3 April 11, BFN
    IUI #4 May 11, BFN
    July 2018 IVF, developed lead follicle, converted to TI, BFN
    August/September 2018 IVF converted to freeze-all: 7 mature eggs; we fertilized 3 and froze 4. 3/3 fertilized and 1 blast!
    October 2018 FET-BFN
    November 2018 FET-TBD

  • @hereforthebabies  Those plump vibes worked! I agree with the other ladies, I wouldn’t let them cancel without a second opinion. 

    @dreamunoz I’m not even on estrogen for my cycle and my husbands annoyiness seems to be increasing 😂😂. I do love him so much though. 

    @Bababatty I hope you’re feeling better...lots of chicken soup! FX for dark lines the next time you test. Also, how did you search for the playlist? My colleague was able to find it by just searching IVF positive. 

    Today is my day of frustration! I went in again today to check my lining and estrogen, I’m doing a natural cycle, and they said I’m still not ready agggghhhh. My lining was 7.8 but my estrogen was just a tad too low. I’m on day 13 of my cycle which is super late to ovulate for me...I’m usually day 10-11. Of course, the one time I’m relying on my body to be it’s normal punctual self, it’s refusing to do so. 🤷🏻‍♀️  So, I have to go back in tomorrow and *hope* that I’m ready to trigger. Transfer date will definitely not be this weekend and likely next Wednesday or Thursday. Every little step just to test my patience. 
  • @annielmartinez so what you are saying is it’s not the estrogen after all and husbands are just annoying by nature lol.

    sorry about the set back, delays are so frustrating, you will get there soon though. 
  • @annielmartinez Apparently I'm blind, LOL! When I searched it was the first thing to pop up. No clue how I missed it before. Can't wait to listen!  :) I'm sorry your estrogen is being a pill! I have found so often that when it most counts is when your body will pull some stunt, lol. Hoping your body behaves tomorrow!

    @dreamunoz The REs do fail to mention that the hormones have the added side effect of increasing husband annoyingness.  :p Poor DH. Once my estrogen dose went down and I was just on the patches and PIO, his annoyingness went down, too. LOL. Although on Friday I did literally scream at a passive-aggressive parking security dude at the airport with a chip on his shoulder. Very much not like me. So apparently annoyingness levels for parking security dudes go way up after PIO.  :D

    @wishing-and-hoping I don't typically tell people about when my betas are, but for all of our losses I've called my mom to cry and she disperses the information to my immediate family. DH handles his mom and sis. 
  • @mkr_0128 I was doing 10 units then dropped down to 5 so I think you’re doing it right!

    @Bababatty ugh!  I’m so sorry about your cold!

    @hereforthebabies I didn’t ask because I was thinking you meant for it to be a protocol for next time if this gets cancelled. I didn’t even think about it being an add on now. I’m going to ask tomorrow! Also, I agree that if you felt uncomfortable, I would ask for another ultrasound before they cancel 

    @dreamunoz you comment made me laugh!

    @annielmartinez ugh. Delays suck!
  • Just a quick update: my nurse DID answer me back, and she said spotting is perfectly fine and if I do get full flow that's great. (I'd consider what I've had yesterday and today a light period) Either way we will be checking my blood levels this Thursdays and next to "see where I'm at". In case anyone finds themselves in the same full-flowless boat! And 10 units was correct! Happy pre-hump day to everyone! 
  • @dreamunoz girl you made me laugh so hard, probably because I know exactly what you mean about hubby annoyingness (lol) I laughed so hard that my DH even asked me what's funny  :|:p, Anyway I hope that those negative thought leave you ASAP as you get ready for your transfer. Sending you positive vibes!
    @wishing-and-hoping I don't think I will share anything until I pass the 1st trimester, i'm too stressed  out to share!
    @annielmartinez, sorry about your delay, so what was your estrogen level? just curious to know what they consider low/not ready for transfer
    @mkr_0128 yay for the green light! and that's what i thought that spotting should still be ok! and GL for your appt on thursday, mine is tomorrow. Are you taking estrogen too or just Lupron?
  • Ah yay good luck tomorrow @babydust2507!! I'm just on lupron, but if my levels are where they should be at my Thursday appointment, I'd start Estrogen Friday then
  • @babydust2507 I’m not sure the exact number. The nurse left a message and just said it was still below 200 and asked me to come in again in the morning. FX for better news tomorrow. GL to you for tomorrow too! 
  • @dreamunoz I thought of your post tonight 😂 it rang true.
    @annielmartinez best of luck tomorrow, hope everything comes into place! 
    @mkr_0128 That’s a relief, and good to know! I’ve also had those struggles of determining when AF really counts.

    Update on today- the doctor said they want me to drop my estrogen dose from 4 patches to 3, and come in tomorrow to check the lining. Here’s to hoping one day makes a difference! 🤞😅 Thanks for all the encouragement ladies!

  • Just came back from my appt, my lining is at 8.5 mm and already trilinear so... so far everything looks good. waiting on my BW result, and hope that my progesterone is still low as they want it to and estrogen is rising to continue with the same protocol on my calendar
    GL @hereforthebabies and @annielmartinez FX for your appt as well
  • @babydust2507 That’s great news! I can’t remember..do you have your transfer date yet? My appt was neither good nor bad. Today they said lining was 7.3, I’m not sure why there is so much variance based on who scans me but whatever, it’s still a little low. Also, my right ovary is refusing to let go of that one mature egg sitting there. I’ve been reassured that all of this is normal with a natural cycle but of course I’m anxious AF. We only have one embryo so I only want to transfer if everything is looking 👍🏼. I have to go back in tomorrow but I’m the meantime I’m going to acupuncture today and doubling up on pomegranate juice...come on ovulation!
  • my transfer is already scheduled for 10/24 since I'm doing a medicated cycle. and i do understand about making sure that everything looks good before transfer to increase your odds. you do have your embryo PGS tested, right? FX for you! I'm still waiting for BW tho, hope everything looks good there too...
  • Awesome @babydust2507!! I hope your blood comes back just where they want it :) 

    Can't wait to hear your update today @hereforthebabies

    Hoping for ovulation for you @annielmartinez  :) 


    Maybe someone can answer this question for me I've been wondering :) I've seen several of people mention follicles growing and ovulation and eggs who I thinkkkkk are doing FETs. Do they still monitor follicles and whatnot for FETs? I thought lupron was to suppress ovulation (I'm sure not everyone is doing lupron), but maybe I'm just all confused lol. 
  • @dreamunoz - oh my gosh, my patience with just about everything is soooo low. It's definitely the hormones.
    @babydust2507 - great news from your appt. I'm so glad that you are still on schedule!
    @hereforthebabies  - hope the appt goes well today!
    @wishing-and-hoping - we weren't planning on telling anyone until Thanksgiving since we will all be together but we ending up having to tell my MIL & SIL this last weekend b/c we all rented a house to hang out at the pool for MIL's bday and I couldn't go swimming so we had to tell them why. So now it's not fair for them to know and not my family so we are going to tell my parents when they come out to visit for Halloween. (that is if everything works out!)
    @Bababatty - I have been so determined not to test at home until day of Beta but yesterday it was all I could think about! I went and bought the tests but wouldn't let myself take it. I'm not sure I can hold out until Sunday. 
    @annielmartinez - hopefully everything will stick to plan and this time next week you will be PUPO!

    AFM - I'm just going crazy in the 2ww. This time around I'm so much more unsure. It's so hard to tell if anything I feel is b/c I'm pregnant or just the hormones or just the PIO. My husband says I am for sure b/c I'm super crazy. lol. @wishing-and-hoping - I've had sore boobs since I started the PIO so I don't know if its that or not. I had a little bit of spotting but it wasn't really dark so I dont know if that's good or bad. It's like all of the symptoms you could be feeling due to being pregnant are the same exact symptoms of starting your period or being on hormones. I don't think I had many symptoms last time either though. Its so early to really tell. 
    Me: 33 (no known issues)
    DH: 33 (lower motility; 0 morphology)
    TTC since Oct 2013
    IVF round 1 January 2016 (w/ ICSI)
    ER: February 17, 2016; 15 eggs retrieved, 14 mature, 11 fertilized
    Day 5 Blastocysts: 8 sent for PGS - 5 Normal
    FET date: April 12, 2016 - DS born Dec 7, 2016
    IVF round 2: FET : Oct 4 - 1st Beta 188!



    BabyFruit Ticker
  • @babydust2507 yes! Glad to hear your appointment went so well. That sounds like conditions are perfect👌 
    @annielmartinez sorry to hear no big changes, but it’s a good sign they aren’t worried! Hoping your body does its thing today!
    @mkr_0128 and @Griffin5413 thanks guys. 
    So i had the same person for today’s ultrasound and she said she didn’t see significant changes but she did get the doctor to come and he performed it again. He said he was actually happy with it, especially when comparing it to my previous ultrasound that resulted in pregnancy. So I am waiting to hear if labs still look ok, but we may be a go? 
  • BababattyBababatty member
    edited October 2018
    @hereforthebabies That is great news!!

    @Griffin5413 :D No judgement here! I’m not sure I could walk out of a drug store without a FRER if I walked in today. Seriously, no self control. I’ll probably test on Saturday because then i’ll Have the whole day to mope if it’s a BFN, whereas Sunday I have lots of social things going on and I should probably not be bursting into tears. (My beta will also be on Sunday so there i’d Just be waiting for the number, which is stressful in and of itself, if it’s a BFP.) In the meantime, my ability to concentrate is nil. @wishing-and-hoping I’ve also had sore boobs since starting PIO, and I’ve also had cramping on and off theoughout this cycle so I can’t even count that as a sign. I’ve had cycles where I got BFPs with no signs at all, and last cycle (which I’d consider my most successful) I had so much cramping. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I ramble but only to say not to worry because symptoms can change or be non-existent even from cycle to cycle.

    @mkr_0128 Some people are doing natural cycles so they’re monitored leading up to ovulation in order to nail the transfer date.

    @babydust2507 Glad things are looking good!

    @annielmartinez Love the playlist! I’m sorry you still haven’t O’d though! Come on, Body!
  • @wishin-and-hoping - No symptoms here, either, but I didn't have any with my BFP in 2015. With all of my BFNs, I had a ton more symptoms, so I'm hoping that no symptoms means my body's using everything ... it's not producing symptoms out of excessive hormones. That's how I'm choosing to think of it.

    AFM - Beta was today, BUT with this [expletive] hurricane coming through - SERIOUSLY, stop hitting SC, Mother Nature - they've moved a lot of tomorrow's procedures to today, so I'm not sure when my RE will have a chance to review the test I took over SIX hours ago. The nurse was SUPER sweet and gave me a test from her supply (and a pee cup), in case I was feeling anxious, but I've just got it in my desk drawer at work ... if I've held out this far (9dp5dt), I can hold out a few more hours. Just FX I get the great news I've been telling myself it will be. I hope to tell you guys soon, but have no idea when that will be. Grrrrrr.
    **History in Spoiler**
    Me-35, DH-36 - TTC since 08/10
    Me - anovulatory, non-Insulin PCOS, DH - low end of "normal" sperm count
       IUI#1   - 02/15 - Cancelled due to scrubbed sperm count <1MM
       IVF#1  - 08/15 - 13x5-day blastocysts (ranging from AA-BB, most are 5 or 6), not PGS, on ice
       FET#1 - 10/15 - 1 emb - BFP (DD 07/16) (estrace + PIO sesame oil + prometrium)
       FET#2 - 07/17 - 1 emb - BFN (estrace + PIO sesame oil + prometrium)
       FET#3 - 08/17 - 1 emb - BFN (estrace + PIO sesame oil + prometrium)
       FET#4 - 10/17 - 2 emb - BFN (changed to estrace + prometrium because of allergic reaction to PIO sesame oil)
    ERA Testing - 12/17 - window moved (-1 day)
       FET#5 - 03/18 - 2 emb - BFN (estrace + prometrium, ERA-timing used)
    Karyotype Testing - 04/18 - Negative (we're ok)
       FET#6 - 06/18 - 2 emb - BFN (estrace + prometrium, ERA-timing used)
       FET#7 - 10/18 - 2 emb - BFN (estrace + prometrium, ERA-timing used)
       FET#8 - 11/18 - 2 emb - BFP; looks like one baby is going to make it, DD is due 8/16 (though likely to be 8/9)


  • Finally got the call, BFN. Six in a row. Oh well.

    I probably won't be checking in; I'm a bit overwhelmed. I wish the rest of you ladies luck and baby dust!
    **History in Spoiler**
    Me-35, DH-36 - TTC since 08/10
    Me - anovulatory, non-Insulin PCOS, DH - low end of "normal" sperm count
       IUI#1   - 02/15 - Cancelled due to scrubbed sperm count <1MM
       IVF#1  - 08/15 - 13x5-day blastocysts (ranging from AA-BB, most are 5 or 6), not PGS, on ice
       FET#1 - 10/15 - 1 emb - BFP (DD 07/16) (estrace + PIO sesame oil + prometrium)
       FET#2 - 07/17 - 1 emb - BFN (estrace + PIO sesame oil + prometrium)
       FET#3 - 08/17 - 1 emb - BFN (estrace + PIO sesame oil + prometrium)
       FET#4 - 10/17 - 2 emb - BFN (changed to estrace + prometrium because of allergic reaction to PIO sesame oil)
    ERA Testing - 12/17 - window moved (-1 day)
       FET#5 - 03/18 - 2 emb - BFN (estrace + prometrium, ERA-timing used)
    Karyotype Testing - 04/18 - Negative (we're ok)
       FET#6 - 06/18 - 2 emb - BFN (estrace + prometrium, ERA-timing used)
       FET#7 - 10/18 - 2 emb - BFN (estrace + prometrium, ERA-timing used)
       FET#8 - 11/18 - 2 emb - BFP; looks like one baby is going to make it, DD is due 8/16 (though likely to be 8/9)


  • @MamaK225 I'm so sorry you got that result. Be kind to yourself over the next while. I really am so sorry :(
    **History in Spoiler**
    Me 39, DH 40
    Married Oct 2010, TTC ~7yrs
    Seeing RE since Spring 2013
    Clomid - no response
    Letrozole (6 months) 2015 
    Laperoscopy/Hysteroscopy in 2015
    Puregon injectibles + trigger x5 in 2016 - all BFN
    Started IVF March 2017 - 25 follies, 9 eggs, 3 fertilised, 1 survived-> frozen due to hyper stimulation of ovaries
    FET May 16th 2017, BFP May 27th 2017, m/c @ 9wks
    IVF #2 February 2018 - 16 eggs, 8 fertilised, 3 frozen embabies
    Awaiting FET April 2018 - cancelled (cyst)
    FET May 2018, BFP June 2nd 2018, m/c @ 8wks
    FET October 2018 - BFN
    Final FET - late November 2018


  • Thank you ladies! still haven't heard from them yet... :| 
    @mkr_0128 I think only the ones that do natural cycle get their follicles monitored to ovulation like @Bababatty said
    @MamaK225 I am so sorry to hear that! take some time cry if you need to... I know it's hard... sending you a lot if love and hugs. Do you know yet what you're gonna do next? were your embies tested?
  • @MamaK225 i'm so sorry.  lots of internet stranger hugs.
    TTC History in Spoiler
    Me: 29  DH:34
    TTC 21 cycles
    All TI cycles BFN (with letrozole, ovidrel, prometrium)
    Hysteroscopy + Polypectomy + D&C on 1/3
    IUI #1 February 6, BFP 2/21, CP 2/26
    IUI #2 March 14, BFN
    IUI #3 April 11, BFN
    IUI #4 May 11, BFN
    July 2018 IVF, developed lead follicle, converted to TI, BFN
    August/September 2018 IVF converted to freeze-all: 7 mature eggs; we fertilized 3 and froze 4. 3/3 fertilized and 1 blast!
    October 2018 FET-BFN
    November 2018 FET-TBD

  • @MamaK225 - oh i'm so sorry!!! We all know the heartbreak here so it's a safe place to vent and be angry! Sending hugs. 
    Me: 33 (no known issues)
    DH: 33 (lower motility; 0 morphology)
    TTC since Oct 2013
    IVF round 1 January 2016 (w/ ICSI)
    ER: February 17, 2016; 15 eggs retrieved, 14 mature, 11 fertilized
    Day 5 Blastocysts: 8 sent for PGS - 5 Normal
    FET date: April 12, 2016 - DS born Dec 7, 2016
    IVF round 2: FET : Oct 4 - 1st Beta 188!



    BabyFruit Ticker
  • Ahh okay thank you @babydust2507 and @Bababatty, I assumed it had something to do with natural cycles but I'm still kinda uninformed how all this works! 

    I'm so sorry :( Sending you love and support @MamaK225 ❤️ 
  • @MamaK225 - So sorry to hear the news :(  We are here for you.  Big big hugs!
    @mkr_0128 - During the U/S a couple of weeks ago, when I started with the patches, the report from the technician showed 4 follicles.  The nurse went through it and did no mention anything.  This week on my pre-op U/S the report says 0 follicles, so I guess they show even on medicated FET and Lupron is to avoid growing and maturing (?).
  • @MamaK225 My heart is breaking for you! Take as much time away as you need. I completely understand. So much love and internet hugs to you and your family.  <3<3<3 This never gets easier.
  • **lurking**
    major bummer @MamaK225. that really sucks. please take all the time you need to grieve. we feel your pain. i'm so sorry. :(
    me: 37 dh: 42; TTC since Jan 2016
    dx: PCOS, low progesterone; 2 MMC
    Sept FET 2018 Spreadsheet
    3 failed IUIs (clomid + ovidrel), unresponsive to femara
    Jan 2 2018 - 1st IVF cycle - 9 retrieved, 7 mature/fertilized, 1 5d transfer + 5 untested snowbabies
    Jan 19 2018 - Fresh Transfer #1 one 5dt; BFP 1/25/2018; EDD 10/7/2018; MMC at 8w3d; D&C 3/6/2018
    May 16 2018 - FET #1 one 5dt; BFP with 4 betas (6.5, 24.3, 165.5, 2250) - EDD 2/1/2019; MMC at 6w; D&C 6/20/18
    Sept 17 2018 - FET #2 one 5dt; BFP 38.9 7dpt, 167 9dpt - EDD 6/5/2019  
    (3 untested embryos remain)


  • so my results are finally in! estrogen was at 446 and they didn't check my progesterone level because my follicles were really small, so the're not concerned about it at this time she said, but they will check next week for sure as we get close to the transfer date to make sure I did not ovulate, so I was advised to continue with the same protocol
  • @MamaK225 so sorry 😥 *hug* 
  • @MamaK225 My heart is breaking for you. I’m sending you so many hugs and so much support. 
  • I'm a little behind so i apologize as i catch up.  

    @mrk_0128 Yay for starting a new cycle! my cycle was definitely lighter after being on BCP.  Also i'm sure you talked with your nurse but 10 units i'm sure is correct. I'm on that amount too. I'm jealous you get an appointment this early.  My first appointment isn't until the 24th.  
    @MamaK225 I'm so sorry, we understand, take all the time you need.  
    @mama2b1974 the 13th is going to be here so soon!
    @Bababatty i'm sorry you got sick, fingers crossed for you and your embryo. But i'm glad you are feeling better. 
    @hereforthebabies sorry to here you may be delayed. 
    @dreamunoz this month is a good size and i agree it's sometimes hard to follow.  i always comment with one browser and read the thread with a different one.  I'm sorry you are having some negative thoughts, keep relaxing and just know i'm sending you all the positive vibes.  
    @annielmartinez what a pain, any delay just makes it seems unfair.  
    @babydust2507 those are great numbers, glad things are progressing well.

    AFM
    I started 1 patch today and going down to 5 units of Lupron.  I was surprised by what the patch looks like and i'm still afraid it's going to fall off.  I know this month will go fast since it's already the 10th but i want the end of the month to get here! 
  • @blackhottamales I'm with you on wanting the end of the month!!

    In the meantime I will anxiously be reading everyone's updates ❤️
  • Thank you @blackhottamales and I'm with you too for wanting this month to go by super fast! I was always wondering what the patch look like. so do you put it on your arm or where does it go?
  • @babydust2507 yeah, i put the quarter size patch on my upper butt.  

  • edited October 2018
    @blackhottamales interesting, I put the patches on my stomach. They’ve never had me on oral estrogen. And they don’t fall off, they’re fine in the shower and all that, 👍 they just leave a sticky residue behind.
  • so they cancelled me.  My RE was the one who did the scan today and I’m so glad she was.  She said my lining was up to 7 but didn’t have the trilaminar pattern as well any more. She wanted to wait to check my estrogen levels before she cancelled for sure but they dropped so she cancelled it.  She spent a lot of time answering questions I have.  I start progesterone tomorrow for 10 days and wait for AF.  Then I have to take a cycle off. When I expressed concerns about how long my cycle can take and wanting get a transfer in before the end of the year, she said they’d automatically put me on progesterone on cd16 for 10 days and then once AF came we’d start an estrogen only cycle (pills, suppositories, patches and/or injections)—no bcp or Lupron. So it looks like I’ll start meds again at the end of November for a December transfer.  I was resigned to waiting when I was in the office but then I got to the store and got angry and bought all the fucking carbs.  I keep trying to tell myself that I need to do what’s best for a positive outcome.  I’ll have to stay on H’s insurance for another year and we’ll just have to deal with it. 

    Looks like my time in this thread is done. I hope everyone gets a bfp...I’ll be rooting for you!  And I hope No one follows me to December FET thread when it goes up. 
  • @purplg8r Girl..I’m sorry. That sucks! You deserve all the carbs. This whole process is such a mind *f it’s so hard to stay positive. Take your time to be pissed and upset but don’t let it keep you down for too long. You need all that positive energy for a healthy December transfer. Sending you lots of hugs. ❤️
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