Would one normal donut make you feel worse than craving one for 9 months straight, @jemmerjams? (I don't have celiac's or a gluten sensitivity, so don't fault me for being naive!!!)
@jemmerjams my SIL has celiac so I understand the struggle. We go completely gluten free when she is visiting or when we see her (opposite coasts so usually a least a week long adventure). Some of the foods we substitute are pretty darn good, some are not. She has an awesome GF bakery in her town that has some great breads and cakes, but doughnuts are still impossible to find.
@sliztee it probably wouldn't be worth it. i do have celiac disease so it is best not to throw my body into an autoimmune attack right now lol. Plus I get suuuuper constipated from gluten haha. But it's sooooo tempting. Pregnancy cravings suck sometimes lol. I'll just eat my cupcakes in the meantime
I have to say that a huge annoyance for SIL is the “gluten free trend” because companies started slapping gluten free all over everything. It’s not exactly the case though. Yes, you can get a gluten free wrap at a sandwich shop, but your sandwich may still be prepared on boards that have been exposed to gluten and not cleaned. Same with deep fryers, if you do not have a dedicated gluten free fryer at a restaurant it has cross contamination. And yes some Reese’s cups are gluten free, but not the holiday shaped ones due to possible cross contamination in the factory. Living with celiac became way more difficult when that trend became huge in the hip diet world. Seeing SIL have to struggle with some of these issues, I really wish more understood how being gluten free is not just a choice for some people.
That turned rant-like very quickly, which was not my intention. Carry on!
@BabyRobbinsAdventure my friend asks very specific questions when we go out to eat, and some restaurants that claim to be GF are on her no-go list anymore.
In college we ordered GF pizza and breadsticks from a place on campus. Told them it was a severe allergy (and this was very early in her diagnosis). When we got there, they hadn't made out breadsticks. She said she should have known right there not to eat them. We are pretty sure the guy went straight from prepping a pizza to getting the GF breadsticks out of the freezer and prepping them without washing his hands. She was in bed for 2 days.
At her parent's cabin (where we go yearly) there are certain appliances and cooking utensils that are GF only. Even the sponge she uses to wash dishes.
My UO in relation to this topic is: I totally get and understand that people have sever allergies especially to Gluten, dairy and nuts. What I don't like is the people who are using it as their diet plan or they are choosing to be ---FREE. They are basically making themselves intolerant to these foods and the rise of actual allergies is more now with kids because their parents choose to not eat these foods.
I had a coworker who cut out dairy and gluten because she said it made her more bloated and break out. She was stick thin and had perfect skin way before she cut these out. It just became annoying for going out and ordering food in with her always complaining that she couldn't eat it but wanted to. It wasn't like she was going to feel sick if she ate it occasionally.
People who choose to eliminate these items from our diets are basically changing our future diets within our species. The more people who do it then the more will have to adapt in the future due to more sever allergies.
Me 33 DH 41 TTC since 2016 Due: October 12, 2018 Location: Ontario, Canada
I would like to add that when I was in school I ate peanut butter sandwiches 3-4 times a week along with most of the people my class. We didn't have anyone who was allergic in our school. Now a days you can't bring any NUT product into the school because there is at least one person allergic in the school if not more.
Me 33 DH 41 TTC since 2016 Due: October 12, 2018 Location: Ontario, Canada
DS1 went to a private school for preschool and kindergarten that was nut free. He's starting public school this year. The public schools in our area have an allergy lunch table where all the kids with allergies sit. I was surprised to learn that the public schools weren't nut free. I noticed that multiple kids in DS1 preschool and kindergarten class had some type of food allergy.
Allergies were one of my big concerns with having kids. H and I don’t have any food allergies but it’s become so prevalent that I was nervous. I have a friend who’s daughter is allergic to nuts, eggs, dairy, and soy. Like, wtf do you feed the kid? And one of my cousins is allergic to over 50 environmental allergens. It’s crazy how all these allergies came out of nowhere. So far DD hasn’t shown any sensitivities, thank god!
We introduced DD to peanut butter as soon as we got the okay to do so. With SIL being allergic to so much we were afraid of DD having some of the same issues. DH does not have any allergies, and I’m allergic to bell peppers. We still haven’t tried giving her bell peppers because it stresses me out when they are in the house, but eventually we need to see if she reacts since it is an extremely popular ingredient in restaurants and people’s homes. I’d rather know before sending her to a friends house for fajita night ya know?
re: peanut free schools. I work at a public school and we have had some severe nut allergies with our students. We are not a peanut free school, but do have a lunch room table that has nut free signs plastered all over them and the “common” rooms (music, computers, library) are nut free zones. The classrooms are not unless you have a student with an allergy and it has been requested that the room be nut free. I had a student with a severe nut allergy like 5 years ago. They didn’t want the room to be a nut free zone but he did have 2 epi pens in his backpack and there was a stash of snacks he brought from home that I would keep in my cupboard in case someone brought in treats for a birthday or whatever. That being said, I teach 5th grade. I could see younger grade levels needing to be more strict about it.
In other countries where it's common to feed nuts to children as young as 6 months old, instances of nut allergies are significantly lower. This nut allergy fear is pretty specific to our country. Women avoid eating nuts in pregnancy and avoid feeding them to young children. I eat peanut butter every almost every day during pregnancy and started my son on it very early. Thank God, I wouldn't know what else to pack for lunch for school most days!
SS's school is completely nut free. Poor kid loves his PB. Most mornings I give him half a PB sandwhich for breakfast. His mom told us once if we tell him that the "PB" she sends him with at school isn't PB she will be mad at us. I don't blame her!
I eat all the nuts right now, including peanuts/peanut butter on occasion. I have read similar studies about introducing nuts earlier to prevent an allergy.
@BabyRobbinsAdventure definitely sympathize with your SIL. While I'm happy more people know what gluten is, now I feel like it's too "trendy" and I could get eye rolls for making sure it's truly GF. Thankfully, I am able to handle a slight bit of accidental cross contamination, but for the most part, I do avoid eating things from common friers, and I will send back a burger when they left the bun on, and then send it back again when they just give it back to me with all the breadcrumbs still on the burger. What irks me the most is the "gluten friendly" designation places are using for gluten free. Are we trying to be friendly to gluten? Because it's on my shit list for life, I have no desire to be friendly to that SOB. I understand they may not be able to call it gluten free because of liability or cross contamination, but "gluten free friendly" may be a better term, and just shove a disclaimer on the bottom releasing yourself of any liability.
That also turned into a rant lol. Whoops. I have a lot of feelings on gluten, sorry guys.
I'm reading this as I eat my pb&j and peanut trail mix... haha. I didn't even realize that some people actually avoid eating nuts during pregnancy, that seems so silly to me!
@babyrobbinsadventure I am allergic to apples and cherries. As a FTM, I have thought about how we will introduce apples into her diet as it makes me really nervous thinking I could pass on an allergy that triggers an anaphylactic response. I guess I'm hoping our pediatrician will have guidance for us in this area?
Yeah it’s really crazy how the incidence of food allergies have increased over the years. I also agree that all of the parents avoiding certain foods with their kids early on before there’s any proof of an allergy/reaction is only making things worse, and is contributing to a higher rate of allergies. With DS, we literally would put peanut butter on our finger and put it in his mouth to have him suck on it even way before we really introduced solid food to him, just to try and reduce the chances of having a peanut allergy. Luckily we haven’t found anything he’s allergic to yet (knock wood), so hopefully nothing develops later on.
My husband was raised in Egypt until he was 9. He comments a lot on how very few, if any, people there had food allergies. Obviously, their medical care might not have been as good at the time. But I also have a friend from Peru who said the same thing. Both said they never even heard of all these food allergies until coming here.
@chyvie YES this is my mom. She's not allergic to anything, but won't eat so many things. She already a vegetarian, won't eat dairy or gluten, limits carbs. Like wtf am I supposed to make for dinner? I've told her that her diet makes it impossible to cook and that's why I don't invite her over for dinner. Sorry not sorry. When we do have her over we would get chipotle because it has so many options, but she recently told me she's over that. Soooo yea. I guess being your own food then mom. (Which tbh is the best thing to do. My kids were intolerant of soy and dairy from birth-8mos. I used to bring my own food and put it in the microwave if we ate at someone's house. It's not fair to put those kind of limits on other people unless you're the one cooking imo)
That’s really interesting! I’m completely pro-vaccine but I wonder if those countries vaccinate as much as the US? Must be something we’re doing here to make our immune systems more ready to fight/react. I’m sure there’s some research out there somewhere. Really hope my baby doesn’t have any severe allergies.
As far as anaphylactic reaction type allergies what are usually the first signs in a baby after their first exposure? I think usually there is a more minor reaction at first exposure and then more anaphylactic reactions with subsequent exposures so I would hope I could realize a possible allergy before the subsequent exposure.
I think it has a lot to do with our food type and eating habits. Our culture mass produces meats, has a lot of hormones injected into them, we eat a lot of processed foods with chemicals/ preservatives, lots of salt and even our flour and butter are different than most countries. If you are GF here but travel to places like Italy or Paris you can eat their pastries and pasta because there is less/ different gluten in them.
Me 33 DH 41 TTC since 2016 Due: October 12, 2018 Location: Ontario, Canada
@rabtaido1214 I would highly doubt that it is related to vaccines, but I don’t have any scientific evidence to support that one way or another. I’d guess it is more from the rise of parents overusing things like purell and other hand sanitizers, and just in general being too restrictive/cautious with kids these days. Allowing kids to have exposures to things like certain foods early on, and a little dirt here and there that has germs and bacteria in it can help strengthen the immune system. Preventing these exposures can lead to weaker immune systems and more intense reactions/responses when there are exposures later on.
@rabtaido1214 check out the “Hygiene Hypothosis”. It’s one of the leading theories for the sharp rise in allergies. It basically says that we over clean, sanitize and sterilize everything, so our kids immune systems don’t face normal challenges presented by germs, viruses and bacteria. Then when presented with a new potential threat (an allergen - say peanut protein) it completely overreacts to something that isn’t harmful, and the hyper- response itself becomes a threat to the person (anaphylaxis).
My friends baby was dairy intolerant in the US, but was fine with dairy in Japan. I've talked to my kids gastro and she believes it's something in the food, but doesn't know exactly what it is. Her caseload has skyrocketed in the past 10 yrs.
I've also heard/read from multiple internet sources (so take it with a grain of salt) that dairy/breads in Europe are more tolerated than here in the US, if you have sensitivities to gluten/dairy. I thought they said it had to do with being less genetically modified (do not want to get into a GMO debate here lol), or it may be all in the preparation of the food...say, *true* sourdough bread that has been fermented is sometimes tolerated by those sensitive to gluten. I personally won't try it because of the celiac disease, but it's an interesting phenomenon.
I guess my UO is that I actually LOVE pulp in my orange juice. If I were buying it just for myself, I'd get the most pulpy kind available. But I don't drink juice much these days due to diabetes, so I buy the pulp-free kind that DH prefers.
@sammierose464 man I’m jealous you can give him PB before school! My girls adore PB and always ask for it, but we can’t give them any before school unless we’re going to give them a bath. I guess some kids could touch playground equipment they’d touched and then go into anaphylactic shock. Clearly it’s a minor complaint compared to the fear those kids and their parents live with, but still. It’s so much easier than making them eggs and I miss it.
Our family's running joke is that my grandfather has pretty much made us all immune to food borne illness by infecting us numerous times when we were younger. I'll volunteer his cooking services if anyone wants to test out that germ theory, lol.
@sammierose464 man I’m jealous you can give him PB before school! My girls adore PB and always ask for it, but we can’t give them any before school unless we’re going to give them a bath. I guess some kids could touch playground equipment they’d touched and then go into anaphylactic shock. Clearly it’s a minor complaint compared to the fear those kids and their parents live with, but still. It’s so much easier than making them eggs and I miss it.
I should clarify, I never have SS before school. This is weekends or summer.
I had an bio-anthropology professor who used to swear that you could prevent the need for braces by giving your kid tough jerky or doggie chew toys when they were little. His theory was soft bread and soft meat = small jaw = braces. As far as I know he didn’t test that theory, though!
I totally think the rise is food allergies could be connected to over sanitizing and stuff like that. It weakens immunity. Also, gross but apparently science has found that picking your nose (and consume her it) boosts immunity.
Re: UO 7/26
Living with celiac became way more difficult when that trend became huge in the hip diet world. Seeing SIL have to struggle with some of these issues, I really wish more understood how being gluten free is not just a choice for some people.
That turned rant-like very quickly, which was not my intention. Carry on!
In college we ordered GF pizza and breadsticks from a place on campus. Told them it was a severe allergy (and this was very early in her diagnosis). When we got there, they hadn't made out breadsticks. She said she should have known right there not to eat them. We are pretty sure the guy went straight from prepping a pizza to getting the GF breadsticks out of the freezer and prepping them without washing his hands. She was in bed for 2 days.
At her parent's cabin (where we go yearly) there are certain appliances and cooking utensils that are GF only. Even the sponge she uses to wash dishes.
I totally get and understand that people have sever allergies especially to Gluten, dairy and nuts. What I don't like is the people who are using it as their diet plan or they are choosing to be ---FREE. They are basically making themselves intolerant to these foods and the rise of actual allergies is more now with kids because their parents choose to not eat these foods.
I had a coworker who cut out dairy and gluten because she said it made her more bloated and break out. She was stick thin and had perfect skin way before she cut these out. It just became annoying for going out and ordering food in with her always complaining that she couldn't eat it but wanted to. It wasn't like she was going to feel sick if she ate it occasionally.
People who choose to eliminate these items from our diets are basically changing our future diets within our species. The more people who do it then the more will have to adapt in the future due to more sever allergies.
TTC since 2016
Due: October 12, 2018
Location: Ontario, Canada
Now a days you can't bring any NUT product into the school because there is at least one person allergic in the school if not more.
TTC since 2016
Due: October 12, 2018
Location: Ontario, Canada
So far DD hasn’t shown any sensitivities, thank god!
DH does not have any allergies, and I’m allergic to bell peppers. We still haven’t tried giving her bell peppers because it stresses me out when they are in the house, but eventually we need to see if she reacts since it is an extremely popular ingredient in restaurants and people’s homes. I’d rather know before sending her to a friends house for fajita night ya know?
re: peanut free schools. I work at a public school and we have had some severe nut allergies with our students. We are not a peanut free school, but do have a lunch room table that has nut free signs plastered all over them and the “common” rooms (music, computers, library) are nut free zones. The classrooms are not unless you have a student with an allergy and it has been requested that the room be nut free. I had a student with a severe nut allergy like 5 years ago. They didn’t want the room to be a nut free zone but he did have 2 epi pens in his backpack and there was a stash of snacks he brought from home that I would keep in my cupboard in case someone brought in treats for a birthday or whatever. That being said, I teach 5th grade. I could see younger grade levels needing to be more strict about it.
@BabyRobbinsAdventure definitely sympathize with your SIL. While I'm happy more people know what gluten is, now I feel like it's too "trendy" and I could get eye rolls for making sure it's truly GF. Thankfully, I am able to handle a slight bit of accidental cross contamination, but for the most part, I do avoid eating things from common friers, and I will send back a burger when they left the bun on, and then send it back again when they just give it back to me with all the breadcrumbs still on the burger. What irks me the most is the "gluten friendly" designation places are using for gluten free. Are we trying to be friendly to gluten? Because it's on my shit list for life, I have no desire to be friendly to that SOB. I understand they may not be able to call it gluten free because of liability or cross contamination, but "gluten free friendly" may be a better term, and just shove a disclaimer on the bottom releasing yourself of any liability.
That also turned into a rant lol. Whoops. I have a lot of feelings on gluten, sorry guys.
As far as anaphylactic reaction type allergies what are usually the first signs in a baby after their first exposure? I think usually there is a more minor reaction at first exposure and then more anaphylactic reactions with subsequent exposures so I would hope I could realize a possible allergy before the subsequent exposure.
TTC since 2016
Due: October 12, 2018
Location: Ontario, Canada
I had an bio-anthropology professor who used to swear that you could prevent the need for braces by giving your kid tough jerky or doggie chew toys when they were little. His theory was soft bread and soft meat = small jaw = braces. As far as I know he didn’t test that theory, though!
be connected to over sanitizing and stuff like that. It weakens immunity. Also, gross but apparently science has found that picking your nose (and consume her it) boosts immunity.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2017/05/05/eating-bogies-good-teeth-overall-health-scientists-conclude/