Unpopular Opinions 5/31

AGK2015 · May 2018

Bring it.

coco2787 · May 2018

I don't like the trend of putting make-up on young girls who are in dance/gymnastics performances. I understand people look pale under bright lights, but who cares? They're little girls and they look clownish with all that make-up on. It just weirds me out.

CecilB93 · May 2018

@Coco2787 as someone who grew up figure skating, I always loved being allowed to wear makeup!

My UO, I don't like bare belly bump pics. Doesn't matter if I know the person or not. And I especially don't want to see people in their underwear.

Jens_Hoes · May 2018

@coco2787 I grew up doing gymnastics, and I believe the only thing I wore was probably sparkly eyeshadow and that is about it. I did all star cheerleading in high school and beyond, and I don't really like the amount of makeup they put on the little little kids, but I understand why, because you are so far from the judges, you can't see it if it isn't exaggerated.

@CecilB93 I agree completely. There was a girl in my last BMB when we did an early facebook group (tisk tisk, I know, I've learned) and she was basically naked in her bump pic, covering her boobs with her arm. I'm not a prude, but I don't really need to see that crap

hbmama21 · May 2018

I guess my UO is that I love bare belly pics. I think they are almost universally beautiful*. That’s also what I take bc I like to see the lines and stretchies develop.

*caveat/exception: doing an awkward maternity shoot siggy challenge is always epic fun!!

coco2787 · May 2018

@jens_hoes I get the "reason" for why they wear a lot of it, but what I don't get is why do the judges need to see it? Why does is it even matter what their face looks like?

tumbleweed-1 · May 2018

My UO opinion is that I’m really not thrilled about having a “Christmas” baby. We were ttc and want a baby, I just didn’t do the math to figure out the edd and think maybe we should skip a cycle. I also didn’t think I’d be pregnant so soon, so I wasn’t interesting in skipping any chances! Alas, here we are.

I’m a December baby (so is my mom and her mom, so I guess it’ll be cute to have 4 generations of that- especially if baby is a girl), but not so close to Christmas! My edd on file is 12/25 (I’m personally calling it 12/26 due to my cycle length and denial). Hopefully baby is late or early!

hkom · May 2018

coco2787 said:

@jens_hoes I get the "reason" for why they wear a lot of it, but what I don't get is why do the judges need to see it? Why does is it even matter what their face looks like?

Facial expressions (big smiles and looking confident) are really important in cheer/dance. Looking scared/confused/upset/etc. can deduct points.

PensiveCrayon · May 2018

@tumbleweed-1 I don't love the fact that my son is an almost-Christmas baby. Even though his birthday is January 9 we still celebrated while we were home for Christmas and I could definitely tell that even though people had a whole stinkin' year to prepare, the presents were purchased very last-minute. Not that I really care, but I'm just worried about the poor kid in the future. I dunno.

And now here I am again expecting another almost-Christmas baby. My one hope is that it comes on December 11, because my birthday is November 11 and my mom's is October 11. Three generations! How cool would that be?

misscheapandchic · May 2018

Same @tumbleweed-1! I told my husband this baby is going early or I’m crossing my legs hbtil
dec 27th

coco2787 · May 2018

hkom said:

coco2787 said:

@jens_hoes I get the "reason" for why they wear a lot of it, but what I don't get is why do the judges need to see it? Why does is it even matter what their face looks like?

Facial expressions (big smiles and looking confident) are really important in cheer/dance. Looking scared/confused/upset/etc. can deduct points.

Ok, but what does makeup have to do with that? There are boys that do cheer and dance and they don't wear it.

runrinserepeat · May 2018

coco2787 said:

hkom said:

coco2787 said:

@jens_hoes I get the "reason" for why they wear a lot of it, but what I don't get is why do the judges need to see it? Why does is it even matter what their face looks like?

Facial expressions (big smiles and looking confident) are really important in cheer/dance. Looking scared/confused/upset/etc. can deduct points.

Ok, but what does makeup have to do with that? There are boys that do cheer and dance and they don't wear it.

I believe boys do wear makeup during those sorts of competitions.

Jens_Hoes · May 2018

@runrinserepeat
I've never seen a boy wear make up for gymnastics or cheerleading. Idk about figure skating

hkom · May 2018

coco2787 said:

Ok, but what does makeup have to do with that? There are boys that do cheer and dance and they don't wear it.

I assume, like with stage makeup for actors, that the makeup helps define their facial features under bright lighting and makes them easier for the judges to see. Now, I see why that would be reason to put them in bright lipstick and maybe some eye makeup, but I do think people can go overboard with their little girls. I feel like the sparkles and bright colors are just for fun because, well, they're little girls and lots of little girls like to wear bright colors and sparkly things. I don't see makeup as inherently sexual so I don't have much of a problem with it but I would draw the line at, say, a really sultry smokey eye or something else that reads too "adult."

kristah2 · May 2018

I did competitive cheerleading for years and had a lot of boys on my team and they never wore any make up.
But I actually loved putting on all the glitter and big hair bows. I actually miss it all the time!!

ETA and not just as a little girl. I was 24 when I retired and it was still fun to put on then!

Jens_Hoes · May 2018

@hkom
I can honestly say as a cheerleader for all star cheerleading, our colors were green and purple, and we had no semblance of a smokey eye but bright glittery green and purple on our eyes

hkom · May 2018

I never actually did cheer or dance but I would have LOVED an excuse to wear neon-colored glitter eye shadow! I played volleyball in college and while nothing we wore was on the level of cheer/dance makeup, we all wore makeup, especially for home matches, and we always wore big bright bows in our hair, because it was the one part of our uniform that we were allowed to have a little fun with.

tumbleweed-1 · May 2018

Re: kids’ stage makeup
I don’t have any experience in this realm. I’m just here to watch. Lol. One of my sisters did theatre in middle & highschool and I know both boys and girls had make up for the stage at that age.
I always enjoyed elementary school Halloween parties because my mom would come assist, and since she was there, she’d put some make up on me & my sisters along with our costumes. That’s about my only experience with make up until lipgloss & body glitter tween years of the early 2000s.

coco2787 · May 2018

I guess I feel like putting heavy make-up on a little girl sends the message at an early age that you have to look pretty to be successful. It's already an uphill battle in our society for young girls to feel confident with their physical appearance and not feel like our self-worth is tied to our looks, and stuff like that just adds to the problem (IMO). And I understand that the kids often like it, most little kids like to do things that make them feel "grown-up".

hkom · May 2018

Also, while both competitive cheer and dance are legitimate sports, they are also visual entertainment. Bold makeup just adds to the visual aspect of it, imo. Another bright shiny thing to catch the audience's eyes.

hkom · May 2018

coco2787 said:

I guess I feel like putting heavy make-up on a little girl sends the message at an early age that you have to look pretty to be successful. It's already an uphill battle in our society for young girls to feel confident with their physical appearance and not feel like our self-worth is tied to our looks, and stuff like that just adds to the problem (IMO). And I understand that the kids often like it, most little kids like to do things that make them feel "grown-up".

I would hope that someone is instilling in these little girls that stage makeup is not real life makeup. And that someone should be their parents, not society. I wear makeup almost daily, but I still like my face just fine without it. The way I see it, humans of almost every culture have been decorating and/or painting themselves for aesthetic purposes for thousands upon thousands of years. One of our modern equivalents to that is makeup. I just don't think makeup is a bad thing. I'm not sure where I'm going with this but I just feel like it's not that big of a deal as long as the parents aren't making it seem like their kid needs to be wearing stage/heavy makeup in their day to day life.

clbness · May 2018

La Croix. I just can't do it. I've tried and wanted to like it, but...no.

CecilB93 · May 2018

hkom said:

coco2787 said:

I guess I feel like putting heavy make-up on a little girl sends the message at an early age that you have to look pretty to be successful. It's already an uphill battle in our society for young girls to feel confident with their physical appearance and not feel like our self-worth is tied to our looks, and stuff like that just adds to the problem (IMO). And I understand that the kids often like it, most little kids like to do things that make them feel "grown-up".

I would hope that someone is instilling in these little girls that stage makeup is not real life makeup. And that someone should be their parents, not society. I wear makeup almost daily, but I still like my face just fine without it. The way I see it, humans of almost every culture have been decorating and/or painting themselves for aesthetic purposes for thousands upon thousands of years. One of our modern equivalents to that is makeup. I just don't think makeup is a bad thing. I'm not sure where I'm going with this but I just feel like it's not that big of a deal as long as the parents aren't making it seem like their kid needs to be wearing stage/heavy makeup in their day to day life.

When I was younger, I never felt like I "had to be pretty" to succeed just because I wore lots of makeup for skating/dance/cheer. To me, it was part of the costume. Yes I loved wearing the makeup, but even once I was "old enough" to wear makeup daily, I never expected it too be as much as what I wore during performances (though for a bit i did go too heavy on eyeshadow...). I agree that it should definitely be up to the parents to teach that to children, not society.

kristah2 · May 2018

I agree with @CecilB93! I also LOVED being in uniform but we only wore it for competitions. The uniform, make up, hair.. it all added to the exciting competition season. It's like it gave us a little extra umph. It's not like we wore make up like that for practices or anything. Sure I felt great fully done in make up and uniform but I didn't feel any less pretty when I went to school on Monday.

LLynde5 · May 2018

@clbness hilarious!! It’s definitely a love it or hate. I love it the rest of my family hates it.

maureenmce · May 2018

@clbness I used to like La Croix but I've had a major aversion to it the last two pregnancies, so I guess it's over for me and La Croix? I used to like the pamplemousse flavor. Ugh, just thinking about it makes me sick now.

echo-charlietango · May 2018

Re: Makeup
I don't have any personal experience here, but I did grow up with a family of ballet dancers. The daughters all hated the heavy makeup, until the youngest got into college - then she liked it.
I used to work in broadcast news and the anchors' and reporters' makeup routines always cracked me up. The older men were always happy to show new reporters their favorite products and the ladies astounded me. One morning (like 4am) I saw two of the women without makeup and I nearly spit my coffee. They honestly looked like men, and their makeup transformation......inspired me to wear lighter makeup so I didn't freak out people when I'm fresh faced.

Re: La Croix
I usually love it

it is my go-to mixer for vodka, and I have a few cans in the fridge right now. Also, instead of pronouncing it as intended "lah croy" I pronounce it in French because I'm an asshole "L'kwaah"

tumbleweed-1 · May 2018

echo-charlietango said:
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Re: La Croix
I usually love it it is my go-to mixer for vodka, and I have a few cans in the fridge right now...

**trapped in box again**

this reminds me that it’s only been post being ku that I keep seeing commercials for alcoholic sparkling water. No commercials! You’ve got it wrong, I’m drinking the sparkling water because I can’t drink the alcohol.

coco2787 · May 2018

La Croix is delicious. Not all sparkling water is created equal though, store brands are usually gross and so is Dasani. Perrier is the gold standard for sparkling water though, I've been obsessed with the strawberry lately.

gingersnap-mama · May 2018

@clbness I'm with you sister! I'm not a fan of any kind of sparkling water!

clbness · May 2018

@coco2787 Maybe I'll have to try the Perrier strawberry! Or maybe I'm just trying too hard to like the stuff and it's never going to happen.

rosebud332 · May 2018

coco2787 said:

I guess I feel like putting heavy make-up on a little girl sends the message at an early age that you have to look pretty to be successful. It's already an uphill battle in our society for young girls to feel confident with their physical appearance and not feel like our self-worth is tied to our looks, and stuff like that just adds to the problem (IMO). And I understand that the kids often like it, most little kids like to do things that make them feel "grown-up".

I agree with you when it comes to things like children’s pageants, especially like you see on tv. IMO they are sending the message that your self worth is largely wrapped up in how you look and I think at a young age that kind of thing really sinks in. I see the dance/cheer thing a little differently because I think it’s like 90% about what their skills are and 10% what they look like, but for the pageants I think it’s the opposite. I think cheer and dance can give kids self confidence for the right reasons if done right.

PensiveCrayon · May 2018

@echo-charlietango Whereas I swing to the opposite end of the pronunciation spectrum and call it “Luh Crux”. I like it okay, like when I’m doing a Whole30 and need a treat, but it’s not my favorite thing ever.

Re: mixers, this isn’t a UO (I don’t think!) but it’s something I realized very recently that the world needs, and that is alcohol-flavored mixer liquid. If that makes any sense. What I mean is, I really want a nice strong Manhattan but obviously I can’t have it because FETUS but if someone could just make a whisky-flavored drink to mix in (and I guess there would need to be sweet vermouth too, etc.) I would be mostly satisfied.

Katzalia · May 2018

Re: little girls and stage makeup. I’m okay with some makeup for performances etc, and especially as kids get older, but when my 3 yo’s ballet teacher wanted pink blush, red lipstick, and *blue* eyeshadow for the recital, I couldn’t do it. That’s a look that’s tacky even on adults. We did the blush and lipstick and skipped the eyeshadow. I’d probably have been okay with blue eyeshadow without the red lipstick, but not together.

hkom · May 2018

@PensiveCrayon Dude, yes. I would totally drink non-alcoholic wine if it actually tasted like wine. Why can't we have this?!

Katzalia · May 2018

hkom said:

@PensiveCrayon Dude, yes. I would totally drink non-alcoholic wine if it actually tasted like wine. Why can't we have this?!

Umm, yes. I think there actually is a nonalcoholic white wine that is drinkable. A friend who stopped drinking alcohol got really into it. I can’t remember what it was called. Unfortunately what I want is a nice spicy zin.

Eta: quick google search comes up with this list: https://www.townandcountrymag.com/leisure/drinks/g19599968/best-non-alcoholic-wines/

temmetime · May 2018

@hkom There are non-alcoholic wines! I have heard good things but I don't live anywhere near a place that I could get my hands on some.

I want the alcohol for the alcohol effects. The little buzz while my legs tingle while I sip a beer/wine/anything after a long day really helps me unwind. NA beer has not been appealing to me for that reason.

Jens_Hoes · May 2018

If anyone finds a non alcoholic pinot noir, I will buy all of the bottles. Every time I watch tv or a movie and someone is drinking red wine, I die a little inside.

AGK2015 · May 2018

Jens_Hoes said:

If anyone finds a non alcoholic pinot noir, I will buy all of the bottles. Every time I watch tv or a movie and someone is drinking red wine, I die a little inside.

Just stay far, far away from the Fre. I keep trying their red "wines," and I keep having to dump the whole thing down the drain before I can even finish a glass, it's that bad. You'd think I'd learn.

tumbleweed-1 · May 2018

Re: fake alcohol
I bought some NA beer, I have no idea if it’ll be good, but it’s the same price as a real 6 pack. I’m still waiting for 2cd tri to drink one. Mostly I just like having the option. I’ve had a bottle in the fridge for about 2 weeks now.

CecilB93 · May 2018

rosebud332 said:

coco2787 said:

I guess I feel like putting heavy make-up on a little girl sends the message at an early age that you have to look pretty to be successful. It's already an uphill battle in our society for young girls to feel confident with their physical appearance and not feel like our self-worth is tied to our looks, and stuff like that just adds to the problem (IMO). And I understand that the kids often like it, most little kids like to do things that make them feel "grown-up".

I agree with you when it comes to things like children’s pageants, especially like you see on tv. IMO they are sending the message that your self worth is largely wrapped up in how you look and I think at a young age that kind of thing really sinks in. I see the dance/cheer thing a little differently because I think it’s like 90% about what their skills are and 10% what they look like, but for the pageants I think it’s the opposite. I think cheer and dance can give kids self confidence for the right reasons if done right.

Oh I definitely agree regarding pageants. Those are ridiculous and I will never subject my child to anything like that.

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