@calimom2524 I guess I should clarify that I am not necessarily of the camp "should do makeup" but more of the camp "I personally don't feel comfortable without it." I sure wish I did!! If I had less blemishy, oily skin, I would love to go without most days. Pregnancy has not been kind to me at all in that sense. I didn't have good skin to begin with and it has definitely gotten worse. I guess I would be curious the reasoning behind the "should do makeup" camp too. As long as you look professional or appropriate for your situation, I don't think it matters.
I wear no makeup, and live in yoga/athletic/comfortable clothes. But low-maintenance is my game; I haven't been to a barber/salon since 2009, can count the pairs of shoes I own on one hand, and my seasonal wardrobe fits into a laundry basket with the off-season stuff in a duffel bag in the closet. My job requires a uniform, which I actually prefer, and definitely is not a professional enough environment for make-up to be expected. Not crunchy, just lazy and have other things I'd rather spend money/time/energy on than looking "good" to other people's standards--especially since we don't do much in the way of events/fancy outings/etc. I literally go from the house to work to the grocery store and back, with occasional trips to the library or a coffee place. Most things we do for fun involve camping or exploring outside, and I don't care if the bears and deer see me disheveled!
The way Americans write the date / the way that the date is written in America is dumb. So illogical. 29/3/18 makes way more sense than 3/29/18.
I’ve never thought about this lol. I can see why 29/3/18 makes sense but 3/29/18 is how you say it (at least in the us we say March 29, 2018 not the 29th of March 2018. So it makes sense to me to write it the way we read/say it.
My perspective is that if you put thought into your clothes, accessories, etc. to look nice and polished, your face and hair should have the same courtesy. It’s more of a polishing thing for me. FWIW, men don’t wear makeup but I generally feel the same about their finishing work (run a comb through your hair, put some cologne on, whatever).
The way Americans write the date / the way that the date is written in America is dumb. So illogical. 29/3/18 makes way more sense than 3/29/18.
I totally agree. I have gotten used to writing the date out as 2018-03-29 for legal pleadings/etc. (because then they are sooo easy to store and find by date) and it makes me realize how dumb 3/29/2018 is.
*TTC History*
Me: 37, MH: 38; Married August 2017
TTC #1 October 2017: BFP on 12/1/2017, DD born 7/24/2018 @ 37+1 after induction due to preeclampsia
TTC #2 January 2020: AMA, dx with DOR in May 2020
IVF July 2020: 16 eggs retrieved, 14 mature, 12 fertilized, 3 blasts, 2 PGT-A normal
FET 10/7/20: BFP on 10/12/20!!! (EDD 6/25/21); First beta 10/16/20 (9dpt): 148; Second beta 10/19/20 (12dpt): 621; Third beta 10/26/20 (19dpt): 4732; Fourth (and final!) beta 11/2/20 (26 dpt): 22,000+
@juliebird6 I guess that's my question. If you have put thought into your clothes and accessories why does makeup then make you look better? I understand for people's personal feelings about themselves feeling more comfortable but I just don't understand why makeup then makes a woman look polished. Like I'd never look at a woman without makeup and think she didn't look good, I think women in their natural state are so much more beautiful. It kinda makes me sad that makeup is expected on women, I feel beautiful in my own skin and my SO likes me better that way too.
@ecwk I work for a hospitality company and roughly 80% of our customers are international travelers so we have to write the date that way and it took me a solid 6 months to make it a habit lol. Americans are weird.
Glitter wrapping paper: I still have glitter in my car from freaking Christmas. My mom wrapped our gifts in glitter paper, and the glitter got all over everything. It was all over our clothes and the the gift boxes that went into my car to go home. It’ll be in my car until around May, when the weather will hopefully then be nice enough for me to drag the Dyson up to the garage and clean out the car.
I told my dad he should go through her wrapping paper stash and burn anything with glitter.
In the Army we wrote 29MAR2018 At work we write 20180329
Back to the glitter debate - DH will grumble at me if he finds rogue glitter in the house / car / on his clothes. I'm like YIPEE!!! I found glitter!!! Hooray!!! Then I do this for an hour:
@calimom2524 I think of makeup as a way to enhance your natural beauty, much the same as why women would curl their hair. Not to cover anything up necessarily but to highlight your features. For instance, no eye makeup is fine, whatever, but if you curl your eyelashes and throw on a tiny bit of mascara, it can instantly make your eye color stand out more. Why wouldn’t someone want to highlight something like that, especially when it only takes one minute?
@calimom2524 I think of makeup as a way to enhance your natural beauty, much the same as why women would curl their hair. Not to cover anything up necessarily but to highlight your features. For instance, no eye makeup is fine, whatever, but if you curl your eyelashes and throw on a tiny bit of mascara, it can instantly make your eye color stand out more. Why wouldn’t someone want to highlight something like that, especially when it only takes one minute?
I'm trying to find a way to answer this without being argumentative because I'm really not trying to be. I personally just don't think anyone "needs" to highlight their features, even if it only takes a minute. I fear raising a girl in this society where photoshop, plastic surgery, and filters are everywhere because it gives little girls the impression they have to look perfect to be accepted. I think the belief that women need to highlight their features to look prettier is sad. I'm happy that I feel beautiful in my own skin but I know that isn't the case for a lot of women and it makes me wonder how much of that is because of the media and society making women feel like they HAVE to highlight their features or wear lipstick to look good. FWIW I'm not against makeup and I do wear it sometimes, I just didn't realize how many people felt women SHOULD wear makeup daily.
Glitter never goes away. I can't bring myself to use it in my kindergarten classroom.
Also not a fan of actual pajamas in public. There are so many comfortable options that look more public-appropriate IMO.
Leggings are life. With long shirts/tunics/sweaters, they are comfy and cute.
I am much more likely to side-eye someone wearing a ton of makeup than someone wearing none. But obviously people should just wear the amount that they like best.
AFM, I don't understand the annual hype about the Peeps marshmallow things. I didn't like them as a kid either. I'll take all the mini Reese's instead.
I like makeup and I even have this fascination with watching
some of the youtube beauty bloggers (although I hands down think they wear too
much makeup), but I don’t feel like I *should* wear makeup. I wear it on a
daily basis to work, and I really enjoy putting it on for going out. I find it
fun to experiment with colors and things like that. At the same time though, I
don’t like how I’ve fallen into this habit of putting makeup on for the weekend
when I’m just running to the grocery store or wherever. Why do I feel like it’s
necessary to wear foundation just to run errands? And thinking about raising a
little girl, I want her to always feel comfortable in her own skin and not feel
like she has to wear makeup to be considered pretty or put together.
I'm pretty basic with makeup and go au naturale the majority of time EXCEPT for my brows. Don't mess with mamas brow pencil. I don't usually notice makeup on others but if Baby got Brows? I'm all..
Peeps have to be "aged" before eating. Peel the cellophane wrapper off and leave them in the box in the back of the pantry for a month or two to firm up before eating them. Although a local dairy company makes "Peeps Milk", the thought of it makes my teeth hurt, so I've never tried it.
Or, shove a bamboo stick in their butt and roast them for S'meeps. They actually taste pretty much the same as a regular S'more, and the sugar on the outside hardens into a shell so they're not overly gooey to eat.
My UO is I don't get people that buy workout clothes to wear as "athleisure" and then don't actually work out. I have a TON of workout clothes but you won't really spot me in them out in public unless I am at the gym or running a very quick errand before/after.
You obviously don't live in LA hahaha. This is so damn standard here, and while it kind of annoys me, during this pregnancy, yoga pants are the only thing that's comfortable to wear all day, so I've often been going out in them, but with a maternity shirt on top. I also always make sure my but tis covered. Can't stand seeing people's thongs or butt cracks when their pants/leggings are see through.
+1 on hating MCM posts, expecting DH to share kid duties no matter his schedule, and wearing pjs in public.
I'm of the "do whatever makes you feel best" camp, and for me, that's light makeup, mainly just to make me look less tired lol. I can do my daily makeup in 5 minutes - just moisturizer, under eye concealer, concealer on a few blemishes, subtle eyeshadow, and mascara. If I'm going out for a date night or somewhere special, I'll do some foundation, powder, and blush, but that's about the extent of it. I feel totally naked without mascara and will wear it every day even if I'm not leaving the house. That's the only necessity though.
April Siggy Challenge: April Showers
About me:
29 y/o Married 6.26.11 BFP 12.23.13, EDD 9.2.14 - baby girl, born too soon at 22w6d due to a placental abruption on 5.5.14 BFP 8.4.14, EDD 4.15.15 - rainbow son, born at 30w4d due to a placental abruption on 2.8.15, healthy 3 y/o now! BFP 2.28.17, EDD 11.8.17 - baby girl, miscarried at 11 weeks on 4.21.17 BFP 11.28.17, EDD 8.8.18, delivering in July - another rainbow baby boy!
I don’t wear make up often because I don’t want to have to wash it off later. so basically it’s double laziness. But also, I think it look fine without it. People should do whatever they want. I just find it frustrating that there’s no expectation that men should wear makeup or shave their legs, etc. But if they want to: Go for it. People should do what makes them comfortable.
Peeps are gross. Cadbury eggs are just disgusting. I wear makeup almost daily, but this whole conversation about women looking "polished" with it is making me so upset. I could not agree with @calimom2524 more. I don't think women look more or less beautiful with it, and am sad to hear that some people think it's a necessary step in a daily routine to look professional.
AFS I hate this slime phase. I wish it would be over already.
Thanks to this thread, MIL (and SIL if she continues to piss me off for the rest of the year like she's done the last couple of months) is getting glitter wrapping paper on her Christmas gift this year. I never even thought of that brilliance!
April Siggy Challenge: April Showers
About me:
29 y/o Married 6.26.11 BFP 12.23.13, EDD 9.2.14 - baby girl, born too soon at 22w6d due to a placental abruption on 5.5.14 BFP 8.4.14, EDD 4.15.15 - rainbow son, born at 30w4d due to a placental abruption on 2.8.15, healthy 3 y/o now! BFP 2.28.17, EDD 11.8.17 - baby girl, miscarried at 11 weeks on 4.21.17 BFP 11.28.17, EDD 8.8.18, delivering in July - another rainbow baby boy!
I really like to wear makeup and I like how I look in it better than my natural face, but I’m lazy so I don’t wear it unless we’ll be around a crowd/people I know.
I do always think about how people don’t think men need it to look attractive, but they think women do—I hate this double standard.
I hate the double standard but also like that I am able to use makeup, I feel bad for DH whenever he has a breakout or eye bags and feels like he can't cover them. There is a lot of interesting literature on makeup in the workplace - wearing none is seen as not trying/not caring enough to make yourself presentable, whereas wearing too much is seen is trying to skate by on good looks alone - super frustrating knowing where the line is and how to tow it (and even having to deal with that biased crap). I think I've mentioned that I have eyelash extensions because they allow me to be lazy and skip eye makeup/eye makeup removal, but otherwise I have never and would never come to the office without it for fear of appearing like I don't care (or, god forbid, like I am actually tired from working 60+ hours a week and can't "hang" with the younger non-pregnant workaholic associates).
*TTC History*
Me: 37, MH: 38; Married August 2017
TTC #1 October 2017: BFP on 12/1/2017, DD born 7/24/2018 @ 37+1 after induction due to preeclampsia
TTC #2 January 2020: AMA, dx with DOR in May 2020
IVF July 2020: 16 eggs retrieved, 14 mature, 12 fertilized, 3 blasts, 2 PGT-A normal
FET 10/7/20: BFP on 10/12/20!!! (EDD 6/25/21); First beta 10/16/20 (9dpt): 148; Second beta 10/19/20 (12dpt): 621; Third beta 10/26/20 (19dpt): 4732; Fourth (and final!) beta 11/2/20 (26 dpt): 22,000+
I love to wear makeup and think it enhances my natural beauty. However, when I don’t wear it people usually don’t notice. I hate lipstick though because my lips are naturally very pink. People have argued with me about whether or not I was wearing lipstick and I’ve had to wipe my lips with my finger to prove I’m not lying. I don’t have an opinion on whether or not others wear it. Whatever.
Leggings are only pants if your ass is covered. I do not need to see panty lines or worse, your panties through your translucent leggings.
In the same vein, just because they make it (clothing or whatever) in your size doesn’t mean you should wear it.
I love cadbury eggs. Peeps are pretty good. Malted milk eggs can burn in hell.
I’m Team Wear Whatever the F*ck I Want When I Want. If you have that much time on your hands to pick apart my appearance, that says more about you than me.
My UO is that "trigger warnings", the way they are commonly used on the internet, are stupid. I'm intimately familiar with PTSD, and the fact that people care enough to try is nice, but just saying "trigger warning" before whatever is not helpful to anyone I actually know who has triggers.
First of all, you must state what the trigger warning is for. Triggers can be virtually anything, so how do I know if this may be triggering for me unless you inform me as to what the potential trigger is?
Second, while there are a few pretty common triggers, such as fireworks and cars backfiring for those who have been in a war zone, or graphic pictures of abuse for survivors, most triggers are pretty specific to the individual. A certain smell that is associated to a specific time or place, or the opening lick to a song that played while you were raped, for example. There is no good way to predict what may trigger a panic attack in an individual.
It seems to me that online most "trigger warnings" are really just notice of less than cheerful subject matter, and probably done more for the conscience of the author, rather than the benefit of the audience. I think it comes from a good place, and perhaps they do more good than I am aware.
Me:32 DH:45 DSD: 20 DSS: 18 Team green baby due: Aug 6th, 2018
@derbysquirrel what topics do you consider merely “less than cheerful”? I’m genuinely curious...the only TWs I ever see are on my mom groups and are to do with loss or potential loss/injury/abuse/tragedy and while a TW would never stop me from reading something, I think for other people in these particular groups, a TW for those types of topics makes sense and is appreciated.
I do agree that there are a lot of trigger warnings that are weird to me. Mostly it’s in one specific Mom group I’m in on FB and I always side eye them, but I think most of them used here make sense. I used one earlier, stated what it could trigger, then put it in the spoiler box. As someone who has gone through a pretty traumatic thing regarding a child injury, I’d prefer to not read other stories, so I appreciate a warning.
@derbysquirrel what topics do you consider merely “less than cheerful”? I’m genuinely curious...the only TWs I ever see are on my mom groups and are to do with loss or potential loss/injury/abuse/tragedy and while a TW would never stop me from reading something, I think for other people in these particular groups, a TW for those types of topics makes sense and is appreciated.
My groups are basically all mom type groups so they are the same, which I appreciate. I joke that motherhood has made me soft but it’s true.. and the since my losses on top of it I just hate reading stuff about kids being abused, dying, late term loss, etc. I will avoid clicking through.
Im in one group that doesn’t warn at all and then it’s like that is the one thread that pops up no matter what you are doing. I know it can be cathartic for people to share that stuff but if you are just in a fb group for kid clothes it may not be what you want or expect to see kwim
@pghctwife and also when someone does a TW on FB and posts the story in the comments, it doesn’t always not appear. It happened today in my BMB - someone posted an awful awful story but it appeared in its entirety on my page and was not hidden at all!
Ugh @ecwk !! I usually find that the comments that show up for me are very short snippets, less than 2 full lines but that could just be a perk of my being 100% mobile lol.
Ugh @ecwk !! I usually find that the comments that show up for me are very short snippets, less than 2 full lines but that could just be a perk of my being 100% mobile lol.
That could be it! It happened when I was on my laptop today!
@7425cait@scottishlass1213 I know you can't see me now, but know this southern girl is gasping and clutching her pearls. Cadbury eggs are my favorite candy on the planet ever. I love to wait til after Easter and buy them when they're like 10 cents a piece. My birthday is in late April and one year my brother got me 108 cadbury eggs. I put them in the freezer and ate them for a year.
I'm team 'Do your face however you want, and I'll do mine however I want' - Usually I wear light makeup for work and nothing on the weekend.
Leggings are hella comfy and totally allowed in public - provided your rear is covered.
Re: U/O Thursday 3/29
29/3/18 makes way more sense than 3/29/18.
11/18/16 missed m/c 9w1
08/03/17 no hb 8w
Me: 37, MH: 38; Married August 2017
TTC #1 October 2017: BFP on 12/1/2017, DD born 7/24/2018 @ 37+1 after induction due to preeclampsia
TTC #2 January 2020: AMA, dx with DOR in May 2020
IVF July 2020: 16 eggs retrieved, 14 mature, 12 fertilized, 3 blasts, 2 PGT-A normal
FET 10/7/20: BFP on 10/12/20!!! (EDD 6/25/21); First beta 10/16/20 (9dpt): 148; Second beta 10/19/20 (12dpt): 621; Third beta 10/26/20 (19dpt): 4732; Fourth (and final!) beta 11/2/20 (26 dpt): 22,000+
August 18 Siggy Challenge: April Showers
August 18 Siggy Challenge: April Showers
I told my dad he should go through her wrapping paper stash and burn anything with glitter.
At work we write 20180329
Back to the glitter debate - DH will grumble at me if he finds rogue glitter in the house / car / on his clothes. I'm like YIPEE!!! I found glitter!!! Hooray!!!
Then I do this for an hour:
Me: 37 Him: 38
Married 11.07.2015
FWIW I'm not against makeup and I do wear it sometimes, I just didn't realize how many people felt women SHOULD wear makeup daily.
August 18 Siggy Challenge: April Showers
Or, shove a bamboo stick in their butt and roast them for S'meeps.
Me: 37 Him: 38
Married 11.07.2015
+1 on hating MCM posts, expecting DH to share kid duties no matter his schedule, and wearing pjs in public.
I'm of the "do whatever makes you feel best" camp, and for me, that's light makeup, mainly just to make me look less tired lol. I can do my daily makeup in 5 minutes - just moisturizer, under eye concealer, concealer on a few blemishes, subtle eyeshadow, and mascara. If I'm going out for a date night or somewhere special, I'll do some foundation, powder, and blush, but that's about the extent of it. I feel totally naked without mascara and will wear it every day even if I'm not leaving the house. That's the only necessity though.
About me:
Married 6.26.11
BFP 12.23.13, EDD 9.2.14 - baby girl, born too soon at 22w6d due to a placental abruption on 5.5.14
BFP 8.4.14, EDD 4.15.15 - rainbow son, born at 30w4d due to a placental abruption on 2.8.15, healthy 3 y/o now!
BFP 2.28.17, EDD 11.8.17 - baby girl, miscarried at 11 weeks on 4.21.17
BFP 11.28.17, EDD 8.8.18, delivering in July - another rainbow baby boy!
Peeps have been my favorite since childhood.
I feel like I have a Stockholm Syndrome relationship with glitter. I love it, but I feel like it's because it has tricked me to do so.
Married: 6/2016
TTC #1: 12/2016
Benched due to deployment- Off the bench 8/8/17!
Cadbury eggs are just disgusting.
I wear makeup almost daily, but this whole conversation about women looking "polished" with it is making me so upset. I could not agree with @calimom2524 more. I don't think women look more or less beautiful with it, and am sad to hear that some people think it's a necessary step in a daily routine to look professional.
AFS I hate this slime phase. I wish it would be over already.
I wish I was better at makeup though. I feel like I have stuff on but it doesn’t look that way haha.
About me:
Married 6.26.11
BFP 12.23.13, EDD 9.2.14 - baby girl, born too soon at 22w6d due to a placental abruption on 5.5.14
BFP 8.4.14, EDD 4.15.15 - rainbow son, born at 30w4d due to a placental abruption on 2.8.15, healthy 3 y/o now!
BFP 2.28.17, EDD 11.8.17 - baby girl, miscarried at 11 weeks on 4.21.17
BFP 11.28.17, EDD 8.8.18, delivering in July - another rainbow baby boy!
I do always think about how people don’t think men need it to look attractive, but they think women do—I hate this double standard.
Me: 37, MH: 38; Married August 2017
TTC #1 October 2017: BFP on 12/1/2017, DD born 7/24/2018 @ 37+1 after induction due to preeclampsia
TTC #2 January 2020: AMA, dx with DOR in May 2020
IVF July 2020: 16 eggs retrieved, 14 mature, 12 fertilized, 3 blasts, 2 PGT-A normal
FET 10/7/20: BFP on 10/12/20!!! (EDD 6/25/21); First beta 10/16/20 (9dpt): 148; Second beta 10/19/20 (12dpt): 621; Third beta 10/26/20 (19dpt): 4732; Fourth (and final!) beta 11/2/20 (26 dpt): 22,000+
Leggings are only pants if your ass is covered. I do not need to see panty lines or worse, your panties through your translucent leggings.
In the same vein, just because they make it (clothing or whatever) in your size doesn’t mean you should wear it.
I love cadbury eggs. Peeps are pretty good. Malted milk eggs can burn in hell.
on your hands to pick apart my appearance, that says more about you than me.
First of all, you must state what the trigger warning is for. Triggers can be virtually anything, so how do I know if this may be triggering for me unless you inform me as to what the potential trigger is?
Second, while there are a few pretty common triggers, such as fireworks and cars backfiring for those who have been in a war zone, or graphic pictures of abuse for survivors, most triggers are pretty specific to the individual. A certain smell that is associated to a specific time or place, or the opening lick to a song that played while you were raped, for example. There is no good way to predict what may trigger a panic attack in an individual.
It seems to me that online most "trigger warnings" are really just notice of less than cheerful subject matter, and probably done more for the conscience of the author, rather than the benefit of the audience. I think it comes from a good place, and perhaps they do more good than I am aware.
DH:45
DSD: 20
DSS: 18
Team green baby due: Aug 6th, 2018
August 18 Siggy Challenge: April Showers
Im in one group that doesn’t warn at all and then it’s like that is the one thread that pops up no matter what you are doing. I know it can be cathartic for people to share that stuff but if you are just in a fb group for kid clothes it may not be what you want or expect to see kwim
11/18/16 missed m/c 9w1
08/03/17 no hb 8w
11/18/16 missed m/c 9w1
08/03/17 no hb 8w
My birthday is in late April and one year my brother got me 108 cadbury eggs. I put them in the freezer and ate them for a year.
I'm team 'Do your face however you want, and I'll do mine however I want' - Usually I wear light makeup for work and nothing on the weekend.
Leggings are hella comfy and totally allowed in public - provided your rear is covered.