@JennyColada MH was able to do the sample at home the first few times as well, but with our new RE he has to do it there. I was worried at first, but he had no problem. They...ahem... had materials in the room
@suzycupcake the actual procedure was fine. it was quick and just slightly uncomfortable. Then they set a kitchen timer and told me "when it goes off you're free to go".
@jrm_14 well, despite his lack of a good bedside manner, glad you found someone that you are comfortable with and have some treatment options.
@JennyColada like others have said if you live close enough to the RE's office he may be able to collect the sample at home. Glad you like the RE. Are you going in for u/s? blood work? both?
@Augusta108 You've got this! remember, one at a time! (one day, one hour, one minute whatever works to get through the anxiety)
TTC#1 10/2016 TTC/IF:included medicated cycles, IUIs and 2 rounds of IVF with 1 embryo each. BFP finally in 12/2018
TTC#2 06/2021 planning FET
"Some days are diamonds, some days are rocks, some doors are open, some roads are blocked"
@kobrien827 My first RE appointment was a little over an
hour, but the appointment time depends on what kind of treatment options you
are discussing, what testing you need/have had done, etc.
@50Wife I’m so glad your RE is being really careful to give
you the best results possible, but I hear you on being frustrated with the time
the mock cycles take! Fx this cycle gets the timing perfect.
@purplg8r So sorry for the BFNs. That first IUI cycle was
the worst for me because I got my hopes up so much. *hugs*
@Augusta108 So glad your father is going to be ok!
@JennyColada Sorry for the argument with YH, but I’m glad
you like your RE!
What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?): Trying on our own, and waiting on the results on the repeat SA and sperm penetration assay
How are things going?: I'm feeling a lot better this week. I'm seeing my new therapist for the second time this afternoon, and I'm looking forward to that. MH and I are going out of town for a couple of days tomorrow, and it'll be nice to just get away for a bit. Assuming the SA and penetration assay results are at least decent, we'll be trying a fourth IUI next cycle, as well as starting to find out more information about IVF and financing.
Any questions?: Has anyone going through IVF qualified for one of those programs clinics have where you get your money back (or some of it at least) if none of the transfers work? Also, what are all of your thoughts on paying for one of those three cycle package deals vs. paying per IVF cycle?
GTKY:
What thing (or things) bring you joy? (if you had to create a "joy
list" to carry around as a reminder what would be on your list?)
MH, of course My kitties My job Good food Fun socks
@darkstar42 I’m pleased you’re feeling better this week and you have some days away coming up.
I didn’t qualify for the money back programs initially due to low AMH and now further proven with my appalling response to stims. I think your AMH was not low, so you might qualify. Typically they are not the cheapest programs per cycle, and if you are successful on the first cycle you’ll have overpaid. But if you take until the last cycle in each package to be successful then it’s a good deal.
However we will now do a 3 cycle package which has 3 retrievals and one FET included. But that’s because it supports our embryo banking approach - and hopefully will stop me from caving at the last minute and demanding a fresh transfer!
I probably wouldn’t have gone for any package for the first cycle, just until you know how you respond to stims and to see if that first transfer is successful. But with your IUI response history you have more info than I had as I went straight into IVF. Then again your IUI stim history might disqualify you for some of them.
Oh and you will have a PM in two minutes...
Me 43 DH 45 Married 12/2016 TTC #1 since 04/2015 AMA, DOR (AMH 0.65, AFC 2-4) and autoimmune issues (RA, APS), low TSH, adenomyosis 7 retrievals, 3 transfers
Jun19 FET BFP, due date 7th March 2020, DD born Feb20
Sep17 IVF1 - 1ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN Nov17 IVF2 - 1ER, 0F Jan18 IVF3 - 3ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN Feb18 - second opinion and additional testing Apr18 IVF4 - cancelled (E2 too high) May/Jun18 IVF4 - 4ER, 0M, 1F, 1 frozen day 3 (not best quality) Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - 5 ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (not best quality) Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - 4ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (good quality) Aug/Sep18 IVF7 - cancelled (cyst) Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - 3ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen Day 3 (excellent quality) Oct18 IVF8 - Cancelled (cyst and too low TSH) Oct18-Jan19 bringing TSH under control Feb19 ERA and hysteroscopy Mar19 Investigation for fibroid and adenomyosis Apr19 adenomyosis confirmed, polyps removed Jun19 FET after 2 months Lupron, autoimmune protocol, transferred two day 3 frozen embryos
Sep17 - Pergoveris 10-17 Sep, Orgalutran 15-18 Sep, Ovitrelle 18 Sep, ER 20 Sep for 2 follies, 1 mature egg, fertilized, ET 1x 2d 4-cell embryo 22/09, 05/10 BFN Nov17 IVF2 - Pergoveris 2-14 Nov, Orgalutran 5-14 Nov, Ovitrelle 15 Nov, ER 17 Nov for 3 follies, 1 mature egg, did not fertilize Jan18 IVF3 - Pergoveris 30 Dec - 8 Jan, Orgalutran 5-8 Jan, Ovitrelle 9 Jan, ER 11 Jan 3 eggs, 2 mature, 1 fertilized, ET 1x 4d 12-cell embryo 15/01, 24/01 BFN May/Jun18 IVF4 - Rekovelle 25-29 May, Menogon 30May - 2Jun, Zomacton 25 27 29 31 May and 2Jun, Cetrotide 30May - 3Jun, Gonasi 3Jun, ER 5Jun 4 eggs, none mature, two matured overnight, 1 fertilized with ICSI, Frozen day 3 but not good quality Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - Rekovelle 21-24 June, Menogon 25Jun-3Jul, Puregon 4-5Jul, Zomacton 21 23 25 27 29 Jun, Cetrotide 25Jun-5Jul, Gonasi 6Jul, ER 8Jul 5 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 but not good quality Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - Rekovelle 26-29 Jul, Menogon 30Jul-7Aug, Buserelin 26Jul-7Aug, Zomacton 26 28 30 Jul 1 3 Aug, Gonasi 7Aug, ER 9Aug 4 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized (normal IVF), 2 frozen day 3 good quality Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - Menogon 19-30Sep, Buserelin 19-30Sep, Zomacton 19 21 23 25 27 Sep, Ovitrelle 1 Oct, ER 3 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 excellent quality
Fav Quote: The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return
@darkstar42 I know they have an age cut-off at many clinics, I know you're AMA, but not sure of your age. With my last clinic, I had to START the IVF process by the time I was 37 to qualify (and I didn't pay too much attention to the terms because I knew I wasn't going to start before I turned 38). My new clinic hasn't given me any information on a shared risk program - I don't know if that's because they don't have one, or I'm too old for it
*lurking from TTCAL* @darkstar42 There is a pretty good write-up on Fertility IQ about guarantee programs: https://www.fertilityiq.com/cost/ivf-refund-and-package-programs They are pretty skeptical of them so I think it's a good dose of reality. Their thought process is if you qualify you probably don't need the program. At the same time, most people who are successful through a guarantee program, even if on their first cycle, do not seem to regret paying more. *TW I actually met a mom recently who had her twins with the help of IVF and had participated in the guarantee program eta - at my clinic. She was successful on her first cycle, so yes, she "overpaid" by about $9k for one cycle of IVF. But she didn't regret it end TW* My clinic's program is basically the same cost as a two cycle IVF package (excluding meds, PGS, and anesthesia), but includes up to three cycles (you have to transfer all healthy embryos before moving to another cycle) and you are guaranteed a live birth or you get your money back (women need to be under 38 and men have to have a certain sperm count). My RE thinks that I would get 1-2 PGS normal embryos per cycle, tops. Your RE might be able to estimate that for you as well based on your AMH, etc.
When I inquired about the program with the financial people at my clinic I was told I was ineligible because of my RPL, but when I sat down with my RE she said if we wanted to do the guarantee program she and the other RE would sit down and discuss my file and decide together if I could do it. We have decided to request entry into the guarantee program, even though it might mean we may end up with no banked embryos for a second child, at our April IVF consult. I think it will reduce my stress to know that if we get no healthy embryos the first cycle, we can keep going without having to pay more. We'll see if they let us do it or not. It's definitely a hard decision to make, especially when you are AMA.
@emmasemm Thanks so much for the information! I do have relatively high AMH, so I'm hoping that would help me qualify. We shall see! @RVAmom315 Thank you! I'm 37 and my birthday is in December. If our clinic does have an age cut-off, I'm hopeful we'd be able to squeeze in before I turn 38! @zamora_spin What fabulous information! Thank you so much. I'll give that link a careful read before I follow up with my RE.
@JennyColada Welcome back! Sorry you're a member of the club that no one wants to join, but I hope you get answers soon!
AFM:
Diagnosis: OLD AF, OH is on testosterone replacement forcing us to use sperm we froze previously
Status: TWW
What are you doing: Nothing!! NTNP/taking a break. I'm even off of most of my supplements for GI issues, although I will slowly add the most important ones back in.
How is it going: Pretty good. We didn't inseminate any frozen swimmers this cycle, I didn't temp (except a couple of days to confirm I was at post O temps so that I know when to start progesterone), I have taken a break from acu, and we are humping at will. To OH's dismay, I still did make him HIO during the likely FW instead of giving him BJs, and I made him use Preseed, which he hates because it stinks, LOL. All of that to say that I feel pretty free. His parents are in town this week, and we are going away for the weekend with them and his sister, BIL, and cousin and wife. When we get back, I'm on vacation for the week and get a couple of days of just DSS and me, followed by my parents and one of my sisters and her 3 kids coming for a visit. I really wanted to not think about TWW during all of this, so knowing that OH most likely doesn't have any swimmers left, I'm assuming AF will come when I stop progesterone early the following week. Hopefully I can keep the fantasies of a miracle occurring at bay!!!
Any questions: Nope
GTKY: My amazing husband *TW* existing kids mentioned
My stepson...he's the best 6 year old ever Being a godmother and aunt
Hiking in pretty places My toes in the ocean Volunteering with all the tiny at risk kids at our local crisis nursery Our families
Me: 45 OH: 42 Beloved SS: born 12/2011 TTC my bio #1/our #2 since January 2016 **TW** June 2016 had CP **end TW** August 2016 - dx with DOR Somewhere in here received recommendation to do IVF with donor eggs, elected not to; OH dx with Low T May 2017 - began freezing sperm June 2017 - OH began treatment for Low T July 2017 - began doing 1 IUI via a midwife and 1 at home insemination each cycle http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/6259ba July 2018 - exhausted frozen sperm, officially NTNP since OH is probably shooting blanks
@darkstar42 so my clinic has a guarantee program but my doctor was confident we wouldn’t need it. Welp, $30k and a CP later here we are discussing IVF #2 for $30k all over again. Even if you have success and overpay, I feel like the risk is worth the benefit.
@emmasemm I get so overwhelmed on the low AMH thread. I’ve read it so many times and still barely got through all the pages of the thread! There has been a lot of good info there from what I’ve seen
@Aurora1973 glad you guys are enjoying each other! And bless your heart giving out BJs like that. It’s DHs bday next week and he asked for one as a single tear fell down his eye (jk- but almost). That’s been a past time in this house. Sperm has always too valuable but now that we’ve been doing IVF I have no excuse except I don’t want to.
AFM I had my WTF apt today but it was a phone consult since my doctor is in another office 2 hours away from me the next 3 weeks and I can’t swing going there with work. It was okay. We discussed doing RPL bloodwork as I’ve had a few other questionable unconfirmed CPs but I don’t know that it’s super urgent if it’s all OOP. My insurance friggin sucks. We’re supposed to start estrace and ganirellix in the LP this cycle. I asked my RE if we could try on our own this cycle (I know that sounds ridiculous to even ask since we are at this stage but I like to know we try every opportunity we can). He said yes but I don’t know how I’d feel about doing ganirellix injections this LP if I were possibly pregnant. Anyone know anything about this? He said it would only bring my progesterone levels down but didn’t have other concerns but I still don’t know how I feel about it. Anyway I’m also questioning starting another cycle now again. I would like to take time and try on our own but i just spent a couple thousand dollars on my dilation surgery and don’t want to have to go through all of that again for another transfer as the outcome from surgery is only temporary and I’m praying as it is now that it holds up for a June transfer. I just have so many thoughts. Ugh.
YOU GUYS! Its really hard to do your “go to” April’s Fools Joke when your inferitile ..I used to wake up on April fools and say “I’m Pregnant” but now that we had to do IVF I guess it’s not funny anymore sign
YOU GUYS! Its really hard to do your “go to” April’s Fools Joke when your inferitile ..I used to wake up on April fools and say “I’m Pregnant” but now that we had to do IVF I guess it’s not funny anymore sign
OMG noooo . I didnt realize you’re back on this thread. You poor thing. How did I miss This?? Ugh I’m so sorry. You’re right, you know I used to play that joke on my father guess that day reminded me of his laughter he would always get a kick out of it but he passed away a few years ago. It’s not funny if the other person who’d laugh at it with you isn’t here more.. but man did he had the best laugh.
OMG noooo . I didnt realize you’re back on this thread. You poor thing. How did I miss This?? Ugh I’m so sorry. You’re right, you know I used to play that joke on my father guess that day reminded me of his laughter he would always get a kick out of it but he passed away a few years ago. It’s not funny if the other person who’d laugh at it with you isn’t here more.. but man did he had the best laugh.
No, she's not back, she came back to comment on your above post.
And it never having been funny has nothing to do with the fact that the other person who would laugh isn't here any more. It was never funny simply because joking about being pregnant never has been and never will be funny.
"It's time to try defying gravity."
Me: 38 DH: 38 Married 6/11/16 TTC Since 6/2016 12/2016 RE appt; 1/2017 SA & HSG results - all normal 3/2017 Dx Hyperprolactinemia; 5/2017 Prolactin levels normal; 8/2017 Low Ovarian Reserve 8/2017 TTA for personal reasons; 10/2017 NTNP; 12/2017 Re-start TTC 7/2018 Clomid+IUI 11/2018 Letrozole+TI 12/2018 Letrozole+IUI 2/2019 NTNP 5/2019 Stopping all TTC efforts; living Childfree
Oh ok, i see I’m sure you can obviously see how that mistake could be made if it’s not titled lurking. I guess I was Being sentimental. Everyone is different and has different sense of humors. To say it has and will never be funny is your opinion and maybe some other people as well but that’s the best part about free will, you don’t have to agree with it. I can see you guys were very offended and that was honestly the last thing I wanted to do.
@ndz2018 The fact that you thought an April fools pregnancy announcement would be well received on the board is bizarre to me.
Me: 31 Husby: 36 Married May 2014 TTC # 2 Since December 2021 Baby girl W born 2/2021 Our journey so far... (tw loss & infertility)
Diagnosis: Poor Egg Quality Working with an RE since March 2016 2 failed TI cycles 3 failed IUI cycles
IVF Feb - April 2017 23 eggs collected, 20 mature, 14 fertilized with ICSI, 4 day 3 blasts, 3 day 5 blasts, 1 PGS normal Transferred 1 PGS normal embryo 4.12.17 BFP 4.21.17 MMC due to small gestational sac 6.8.17
Our adoption journey: 12.25.18 Agency picked and apps submitted! 5.1.19 Adoption on hold so we can buy a house! 1.1.20 Homestudy process started 3.14.20 First social worker visit 5.25.20 Homestudy Approved & Submitted to Agency
6.1.20 Surprise! Positive pregnancy test! Healthy baby girl born 2/10/2021
Really guys?? Not sure which part of I truly was not trying to offend anyone and I apologize wasn’t clear but hey go ahead and PLEASE continue if this is what you feel you need to do.
I want to send hugs and love to my fellow IF warriors. I'm sorry this junk (the nicest way I can put it) has found its way into your safe place. I am rooting for you @lulu1180@RVAmom315@tamalahoops@adirat amen sister, amen!
Except @ndz2018 you never actually gave an apology, as you can see where I quoted your earlier statement below. You said you never meant to offend but it doesn't change the fact that what you said was incredibly offensive to everyone else on the thread. And the only reason people are continuing is because you seem to think that what you said was OK simply because you think it's funny.
Oh ok, i see I’m sure you can obviously see how that mistake could be made if it’s not titled lurking. I guess I was Being sentimental. Everyone is different and has different sense of humors. To say it has and will never be funny is your opinion and maybe some other people as well but that’s the best part about free will, you don’t have to agree with it. I can see you guys were very offended and that was honestly the last thing I wanted to do.
"It's time to try defying gravity."
Me: 38 DH: 38 Married 6/11/16 TTC Since 6/2016 12/2016 RE appt; 1/2017 SA & HSG results - all normal 3/2017 Dx Hyperprolactinemia; 5/2017 Prolactin levels normal; 8/2017 Low Ovarian Reserve 8/2017 TTA for personal reasons; 10/2017 NTNP; 12/2017 Re-start TTC 7/2018 Clomid+IUI 11/2018 Letrozole+TI 12/2018 Letrozole+IUI 2/2019 NTNP 5/2019 Stopping all TTC efforts; living Childfree
guys relax. She obviously did not mean to offend, she acknowledged that it was a poor choice posting that on this board but tearing a fellow IF friend apart is not going to get anyone anywhere.
@lulu1180 You are technically correct so here ya go “ I am Sorry guys for the offensive comment” , I suppose i thought it was implied when I said I didn’t mean to offend anyone but i obviously need to spell it out. Glad your the ambassador of the IF thread and speak for all ladies dealing with infertility including myself. I also think it’s kinda harsh that you slamming someone who is right there with these IF ladies day in and day out supporting them and going through it myself but I do understand why you have you panties in a bunch. It wasn’t my intention but it is what it is.
To everyone who has supported me these last 7 months of testing, IVF, surgery and my up coming FET thank you all so, so much i don’t think I could’ve gotten through it without you but I’m clearly not welcome here any longer and made a mistake, that’s my bad.
To my girls still going through their testing, IUI and up coming IVFs I’ll be cheering you on 100% from the Infertily group! Thank you all so much for the love through one of the most difficult journeys of my life. You guys ROCK! And i don’t know how I would’ve gotten through it without you. Hopefully I’ll see you on the other side! Thank you for all you love and support!
@ndz2018 I would never suggest or want anyone to leave this thread as I know from personal experience how amazing the support is. And no one ever said they want you to leave. And no, I'm not the ambassador but I know I wasn't the only one that was upset by your comment. And quite honestly, I think that if someone says something that upset a number of people as you did above, it should be pointed out.
"It's time to try defying gravity."
Me: 38 DH: 38 Married 6/11/16 TTC Since 6/2016 12/2016 RE appt; 1/2017 SA & HSG results - all normal 3/2017 Dx Hyperprolactinemia; 5/2017 Prolactin levels normal; 8/2017 Low Ovarian Reserve 8/2017 TTA for personal reasons; 10/2017 NTNP; 12/2017 Re-start TTC 7/2018 Clomid+IUI 11/2018 Letrozole+TI 12/2018 Letrozole+IUI 2/2019 NTNP 5/2019 Stopping all TTC efforts; living Childfree
@lulu1180 you may have never suggested or want anyone to leave this thread KINDA like I didn’t mean to offend anyone, yet here we are.... so there’s that.
@ndz2018 I would never suggest or want anyone to leave this thread as I know from personal experience how amazing the support is. And no one ever said they want you to leave. And no, I'm not the ambassador but I know I wasn't the only one that was upset by your comment. And quite honestly, I think that if someone says something that upset a number of people as you did above, it should be pointed out.
***dirty lurker who is always lurking***
The bolded is and has always been true of TB, and should ring true IRL. If someone, whether a regular or a drive by, says something that is offensive or upsets a number of the people who may see or participate on a board or thread - it should be pointed out so that it can be avoided in the future. Hence why we've always told drive bys to apologize, learn from their mistake, and move on. The same rings true for regulars. Things don't suddenly stop being offensive because someone is a regular.
I was very fortunate to not have to battle IF, but I have a number of friends who have and continue to do so. Even I know how offensive "pregnancy jokes" are.
*lurking* IMHO I don't think @ndz2018 meant any harm and I appreciate her apology. I've never been a fan of the April Fools pregnancy jokes and even more sensitive now since battling IF for years now. But I see where the joke hit a sentimental memory for her. I lost my dad in 2001 and many times think of things between us that may not be super appropriate to joke about. Silver lining in battling IF...we can make more people aware of these things. Most people are clueless because it's always been easy for them.
TTC #1 since April 2015 June 2016 - CP 2017 - Medicated Cycles & IUI's IVF w/ PGS - January 2018 FET #1 - April 2018 - BFN ERA Cycle May / June 2018 ERA Biopsy June 2018 ~ Results: receptive (no change) FET #2 - July 2018 - BFP Beta #1 - 137 Beta #2 - 410 U/S #1 7wk1d - HB 144 U/S #2 9w1d HB 166 Anatomy Scan 1st 11/2/18 2nd AS 11/19 EDD March 28, 2019 Baby Girl born 3/26/19
Re: IF Testing and Treatment- week of 3/26
TTC #2 - August 2016
MFI
IUI #1-3 BFN
BFP 4/21/18 MMC 6/11/18
@jrm_14 well, despite his lack of a good bedside manner, glad you found someone that you are comfortable with and have some treatment options.
@JennyColada like others have said if you live close enough to the RE's office he may be able to collect the sample at home. Glad you like the RE. Are you going in for u/s? blood work? both?
@Augusta108 You've got this! remember, one at a time! (one day, one hour, one minute whatever works to get through the anxiety)
TTC#1 10/2016
TTC/IF:included medicated cycles, IUIs and 2 rounds of IVF with 1 embryo each.
BFP finally in 12/2018
TTC#2 06/2021
planning FET
"Some days are diamonds, some days are rocks,
some doors are open, some roads are blocked"
@Avrilmai Fx so hard that this is your cycle!
@beachbunnyxo123 Just wanted to offer hugs as you start this new cycle.
@KristoKekerooni I am so, so sorry my friend. This sucks big time, and you have every right to be angry.
@RVAmom315 Sorry for cd 1. Glad you got in touch with the RE and have a plan to get things moving.
@leilee101 So glad the timing worked out for you! I also had MH in the room with me.
@jrm_14 I definitely want to hear details of the new RE! I’m super curious now.
@emmasemm Sorry things have been so crazy lately for you. Do you have any down time coming up?
@ndz2018 I would be freaking out too if I found mice in my house! Glad YH dealt with everything!
@suzycupcake Fx that those two follies released!
@kobrien827 My first RE appointment was a little over an hour, but the appointment time depends on what kind of treatment options you are discussing, what testing you need/have had done, etc.
@50Wife I’m so glad your RE is being really careful to give you the best results possible, but I hear you on being frustrated with the time the mock cycles take! Fx this cycle gets the timing perfect.
@purplg8r So sorry for the BFNs. That first IUI cycle was the worst for me because I got my hopes up so much. *hugs*
@Augusta108 So glad your father is going to be ok!
@JennyColada Sorry for the argument with YH, but I’m glad you like your RE!
Status (WTO/TWW/TTA): WTO
What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?): Trying on our own, and waiting on the results on the repeat SA and sperm penetration assay
How are things going?: I'm feeling a lot better this week. I'm seeing my new therapist for the second time this afternoon, and I'm looking forward to that. MH and I are going out of town for a couple of days tomorrow, and it'll be nice to just get away for a bit. Assuming the SA and penetration assay results are at least decent, we'll be trying a fourth IUI next cycle, as well as starting to find out more information about IVF and financing.
Any questions?: Has anyone going through IVF qualified for one of those programs clinics have where you get your money back (or some of it at least) if none of the transfers work? Also, what are all of your thoughts on paying for one of those three cycle package deals vs. paying per IVF cycle?
GTKY: What thing (or things) bring you joy? (if you had to create a "joy list" to carry around as a reminder what would be on your list?)
MH, of course
My kitties
My job
Good food
Fun socks
I didn’t qualify for the money back programs initially due to low AMH and now further proven with my appalling response to stims. I think your AMH was not low, so you might qualify. Typically they are not the cheapest programs per cycle, and if you are successful on the first cycle you’ll have overpaid. But if you take until the last cycle in each package to be successful then it’s a good deal.
However we will now do a 3 cycle package which has 3 retrievals and one FET included. But that’s because it supports our embryo banking approach - and hopefully will stop me from caving at the last minute and demanding a fresh transfer!
I probably wouldn’t have gone for any package for the first cycle, just until you know how you respond to stims and to see if that first transfer is successful. But with your IUI response history you have more info than I had as I went straight into IVF. Then again your IUI stim history might disqualify you for some of them.
Oh and you will have a PM in two minutes...
Married 12/2016
TTC #1 since 04/2015
AMA, DOR (AMH 0.65, AFC 2-4) and autoimmune issues (RA, APS), low TSH, adenomyosis
7 retrievals, 3 transfers
Nov17 IVF2 - 1ER, 0F
Jan18 IVF3 - 3ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN
Feb18 - second opinion and additional testing
Apr18 IVF4 - cancelled (E2 too high)
May/Jun18 IVF4 - 4ER, 0M, 1F, 1 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - 5 ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - 4ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (good quality)
Aug/Sep18 IVF7 - cancelled (cyst)
Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - 3ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen Day 3 (excellent quality)
Oct18 IVF8 - Cancelled (cyst and too low TSH)
Oct18-Jan19 bringing TSH under control
Feb19 ERA and hysteroscopy
Mar19 Investigation for fibroid and adenomyosis
Apr19 adenomyosis confirmed, polyps removed
Jun19 FET after 2 months Lupron, autoimmune protocol, transferred two day 3 frozen embryos
Nov17 IVF2 - Pergoveris 2-14 Nov, Orgalutran 5-14 Nov, Ovitrelle 15 Nov, ER 17 Nov for 3 follies, 1 mature egg, did not fertilize
Jan18 IVF3 - Pergoveris 30 Dec - 8 Jan, Orgalutran 5-8 Jan, Ovitrelle 9 Jan, ER 11 Jan 3 eggs, 2 mature, 1 fertilized, ET 1x 4d 12-cell embryo 15/01, 24/01 BFN
May/Jun18 IVF4 - Rekovelle 25-29 May, Menogon 30May - 2Jun, Zomacton 25 27 29 31 May and 2Jun, Cetrotide 30May - 3Jun, Gonasi 3Jun, ER 5Jun 4 eggs, none mature, two matured overnight, 1 fertilized with ICSI, Frozen day 3 but not good quality
Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - Rekovelle 21-24 June, Menogon 25Jun-3Jul, Puregon 4-5Jul, Zomacton 21 23 25 27 29 Jun, Cetrotide 25Jun-5Jul, Gonasi 6Jul, ER 8Jul 5 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 but not good quality
Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - Rekovelle 26-29 Jul, Menogon 30Jul-7Aug, Buserelin 26Jul-7Aug, Zomacton 26 28 30 Jul 1 3 Aug, Gonasi 7Aug, ER 9Aug 4 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized (normal IVF), 2 frozen day 3 good quality
Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - Menogon 19-30Sep, Buserelin 19-30Sep, Zomacton 19 21 23 25 27 Sep, Ovitrelle 1 Oct, ER 3 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 excellent quality
Fav Quote: The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return
TTC #2 - August 2016
MFI
IUI #1-3 BFN
BFP 4/21/18 MMC 6/11/18
@darkstar42 There is a pretty good write-up on Fertility IQ about guarantee programs: https://www.fertilityiq.com/cost/ivf-refund-and-package-programs
They are pretty skeptical of them so I think it's a good dose of reality. Their thought process is if you qualify you probably don't need the program. At the same time, most people who are successful through a guarantee program, even if on their first cycle, do not seem to regret paying more. *TW I actually met a mom recently who had her twins with the help of IVF and had participated in the guarantee program eta - at my clinic. She was successful on her first cycle, so yes, she "overpaid" by about $9k for one cycle of IVF. But she didn't regret it end TW* My clinic's program is basically the same cost as a two cycle IVF package (excluding meds, PGS, and anesthesia), but includes up to three cycles (you have to transfer all healthy embryos before moving to another cycle) and you are guaranteed a live birth or you get your money back (women need to be under 38 and men have to have a certain sperm count). My RE thinks that I would get 1-2 PGS normal embryos per cycle, tops. Your RE might be able to estimate that for you as well based on your AMH, etc.
When I inquired about the program with the financial people at my clinic I was told I was ineligible because of my RPL, but when I sat down with my RE she said if we wanted to do the guarantee program she and the other RE would sit down and discuss my file and decide together if I could do it. We have decided to request entry into the guarantee program, even though it might mean we may end up with no banked embryos for a second child, at our April IVF consult. I think it will reduce my stress to know that if we get no healthy embryos the first cycle, we can keep going without having to pay more. We'll see if they let us do it or not. It's definitely a hard decision to make, especially when you are AMA.
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@RVAmom315 Thank you! I'm 37 and my birthday is in December. If our clinic does have an age cut-off, I'm hopeful we'd be able to squeeze in before I turn 38!
@zamora_spin What fabulous information! Thank you so much. I'll give that link a careful read before I follow up with my RE.
@avrilmai FX for your IUI this cycle!
@beachbunnyxo123 I really hope they come up with a new protocol that is successful for you. FX!!!
@RVAmom315 So sorry about CD1.
@emmasemm Sorry this past cycle was a bust.
@JennyColada Welcome back! Sorry you're a member of the club that no one wants to join, but I hope you get answers soon!
AFM:
Diagnosis: OLD AF, OH is on testosterone replacement forcing us to use sperm we froze previously
Status: TWW
What are you doing: Nothing!! NTNP/taking a break. I'm even off of most of my supplements for GI issues, although I will slowly add the most important ones back in.
How is it going: Pretty good. We didn't inseminate any frozen swimmers this cycle, I didn't temp (except a couple of days to confirm I was at post O temps so that I know when to start progesterone), I have taken a break from acu, and we are humping at will. To OH's dismay, I still did make him HIO during the likely FW instead of giving him BJs, and I made him use Preseed, which he hates because it stinks, LOL. All of that to say that I feel pretty free. His parents are in town this week, and we are going away for the weekend with them and his sister, BIL, and cousin and wife. When we get back, I'm on vacation for the week and get a couple of days of just DSS and me, followed by my parents and one of my sisters and her 3 kids coming for a visit. I really wanted to not think about TWW during all of this, so knowing that OH most likely doesn't have any swimmers left, I'm assuming AF will come when I stop progesterone early the following week. Hopefully I can keep the fantasies of a miracle occurring at bay!!!
Any questions: Nope
GTKY: My amazing husband
*TW* existing kids mentioned
Being a godmother and aunt
My toes in the ocean
Volunteering with all the tiny at risk kids at our local crisis nursery
Our families
Beloved SS: born 12/2011
TTC my bio #1/our #2 since January 2016
**TW** June 2016 had CP **end TW**
August 2016 - dx with DOR
Somewhere in here received recommendation to do IVF with donor eggs, elected not to; OH dx with Low T
May 2017 - began freezing sperm
June 2017 - OH began treatment for Low T
July 2017 - began doing 1 IUI via a midwife and 1 at home insemination each cycle
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/6259ba
July 2018 - exhausted frozen sperm, officially NTNP since OH is probably shooting blanks
@Augusta108 excited to hear your are moving forward with IVF!
@ndz2018 your transfer is so close!
@darkstar42 so my clinic has a guarantee program but my doctor was confident we wouldn’t need it. Welp, $30k and a CP later here we are discussing IVF #2 for $30k all over again. Even if you have success and overpay, I feel like the risk is worth the benefit.
@emmasemm I get so overwhelmed on the low AMH thread. I’ve read it so many times and still barely got through all the pages of the thread! There has been a lot of good info there from what I’ve seen
@Aurora1973 glad you guys are enjoying each other! And bless your heart giving out BJs like that. It’s DHs bday next week and he asked for one as a single tear fell down his eye (jk- but almost). That’s been a past time in this house. Sperm has always too valuable but now that we’ve been doing IVF I have no excuse except I don’t want to.
AFM I had my WTF apt today but it was a phone consult since my doctor is in another office 2 hours away from me the next 3 weeks and I can’t swing going there with work. It was okay. We discussed doing RPL bloodwork as I’ve had a few other questionable unconfirmed CPs but I don’t know that it’s super urgent if it’s all OOP. My insurance friggin sucks. We’re supposed to start estrace and ganirellix in the LP this cycle. I asked my RE if we could try on our own this cycle (I know that sounds ridiculous to even ask since we are at this stage but I like to know we try every opportunity we can). He said yes but I don’t know how I’d feel about doing ganirellix injections this LP if I were possibly pregnant. Anyone know anything about this? He said it would only bring my progesterone levels down but didn’t have other concerns but I still don’t know how I feel about it. Anyway I’m also questioning starting another cycle now again. I would like to take time and try on our own but i just spent a couple thousand dollars on my dilation surgery and don’t want to have to go through all of that again for another transfer as the outcome from surgery is only temporary and I’m praying as it is now that it holds up for a June transfer. I just have so many thoughts. Ugh.
And it never having been funny has nothing to do with the fact that the other person who would laugh isn't here any more. It was never funny simply because joking about being pregnant never has been and never will be funny.
"It's time to try defying gravity."
Married 6/11/16
TTC Since 6/2016
12/2016 RE appt; 1/2017 SA & HSG results - all normal
3/2017 Dx Hyperprolactinemia; 5/2017 Prolactin levels normal; 8/2017 Low Ovarian Reserve
8/2017 TTA for personal reasons; 10/2017 NTNP; 12/2017 Re-start TTC
7/2018 Clomid+IUI
11/2018 Letrozole+TI
12/2018 Letrozole+IUI
2/2019 NTNP
5/2019 Stopping all TTC efforts; living Childfree
I guess I was Being sentimental. Everyone is different and has different sense of humors. To say it has and will never be funny is your opinion and maybe some other people as well but that’s the best part about free will, you don’t have to agree with it. I can see you guys were very offended and that was honestly the last thing I wanted to do.
Married May 2014
TTC # 2 Since December 2021
Baby girl W born 2/2021
Our journey so far...
(tw loss & infertility)
Working with an RE since March 2016
2 failed TI cycles
3 failed IUI cycles
IVF Feb - April 2017
23 eggs collected, 20 mature, 14 fertilized with ICSI, 4 day 3 blasts, 3 day 5 blasts, 1 PGS normal
Transferred 1 PGS normal embryo 4.12.17
BFP 4.21.17
MMC due to small gestational sac 6.8.17
Our adoption journey:
12.25.18 Agency picked and apps submitted!
5.1.19 Adoption on hold so we can buy a house!
1.1.20 Homestudy process started
3.14.20 First social worker visit
5.25.20 Homestudy Approved & Submitted to Agency
6.1.20 Surprise! Positive pregnancy test!
Healthy baby girl born 2/10/2021
TTC #2 - August 2016
MFI
IUI #1-3 BFN
BFP 4/21/18 MMC 6/11/18
(waving hi to @beachbunnyxo123@KristoKekerooni@purplg8r and @Aurora1973 i'm rooting for all of you!)
Diagnosed : unexplained infertility
6 rounds of IUI and a MC 2/2014, rainbow twins 4/2015
TTC #3 5/2016
Restarted Fertility tx
IUI 2 rounds, baby girl 12/17
ndz2018 said:
"It's time to try defying gravity."
Married 6/11/16
TTC Since 6/2016
12/2016 RE appt; 1/2017 SA & HSG results - all normal
3/2017 Dx Hyperprolactinemia; 5/2017 Prolactin levels normal; 8/2017 Low Ovarian Reserve
8/2017 TTA for personal reasons; 10/2017 NTNP; 12/2017 Re-start TTC
7/2018 Clomid+IUI
11/2018 Letrozole+TI
12/2018 Letrozole+IUI
2/2019 NTNP
5/2019 Stopping all TTC efforts; living Childfree
I also think it’s kinda harsh that you slamming someone who is right there with these IF ladies day in and day out supporting them and going through it myself but I do understand why you have you panties in a bunch. It wasn’t my intention but it is what it is.
To everyone who has supported me these last 7 months of testing, IVF, surgery and my up coming FET thank you all so, so much i don’t think I could’ve gotten through it without you but I’m clearly not welcome here any longer and made a mistake, that’s my bad.
To my girls still going through their testing, IUI and up coming IVFs I’ll be cheering you on 100% from the Infertily group! Thank you all so much for the love through one of the most difficult journeys of my life. You guys ROCK! And i don’t know how I would’ve gotten through it without you. Hopefully I’ll see you on the other side! Thank you for all you love and support!
"It's time to try defying gravity."
Married 6/11/16
TTC Since 6/2016
12/2016 RE appt; 1/2017 SA & HSG results - all normal
3/2017 Dx Hyperprolactinemia; 5/2017 Prolactin levels normal; 8/2017 Low Ovarian Reserve
8/2017 TTA for personal reasons; 10/2017 NTNP; 12/2017 Re-start TTC
7/2018 Clomid+IUI
11/2018 Letrozole+TI
12/2018 Letrozole+IUI
2/2019 NTNP
5/2019 Stopping all TTC efforts; living Childfree
The bolded is and has always been true of TB, and should ring true IRL.
If someone, whether a regular or a drive by, says something that is offensive or upsets a number of the people who may see or participate on a board or thread - it should be pointed out so that it can be avoided in the future.
Hence why we've always told drive bys to apologize, learn from their mistake, and move on.
The same rings true for regulars.
Things don't suddenly stop being offensive because someone is a regular.
I was very fortunate to not have to battle IF, but I have a number of friends who have and continue to do so. Even I know how offensive "pregnancy jokes" are.
Me: 30 | DH: 34 | DSS: 14 | DS: 4
PG #2, EDD 10/12/2023
June 2016 - CP
2017 - Medicated Cycles & IUI's
IVF w/ PGS - January 2018
FET #1 - April 2018 - BFN
ERA Cycle May / June 2018
ERA Biopsy June 2018 ~ Results: receptive (no change)
FET #2 - July 2018 - BFP
U/S #1 7wk1d - HB 144 U/S #2 9w1d HB 166
Anatomy Scan 1st 11/2/18 2nd AS 11/19
EDD March 28, 2019
Baby Girl born 3/26/19