Re: Birthing poop. When I went in to have my daughter my nurse asked if I wanted an enema so I wouldn't poop during labor. Since she was the one who had to deal with it I asked her what her preference was. She strongly preferred the poop during labor than giving an enema. So much gore comes out that I doubt it makes a big difference. I actually have no idea if I pooped or not and honestly don't care.
Great point about some parents abusing the home school system @LiveNLove44. Admittedly, the majority of my interaction is with academically driven kids. There's obviously a wide range of education and experiences in that community. My favorite, and probably most beneficial, class in college was Skeptical, Critical, and Logical Thinking. I agree that it should be taught in high school and college. Subject content can change, be forgotten, not be applicable to your future career, etc. but the ability to think critically is a skill that is useful in all areas in life.
Oh also if you homeschool your kids I assume 80% of the time they got a substandard education. Same for if you sent your kids to Waldorf or similar. (ETA yes I know some people homeschool their kids and it can be the best thing ever. But I think they are significantly in the minority)
I have a very good friend who was homeschooled by her mom, and she and all of her siblings are exceptionally smart and successful as adults. I have noticed that they are lacking in the pop culture department, which is kinda funny at times, but in the grand scheme of things, that doesn't seem all too important.
I think I generally agree with you, though. I think they are probably in the minority and can credit their mother, who just happened to be exactly the type of person who can successfully home school (extremely smart and educated and committed).
I am curious as to how Waldorf relates to that though? I don't know anything about that program really but thought it was similar to Montessori.
Waldorf (and Montessori) can be excellent for pre-K type programs but have extremely unusual practices as kids get further on. Like not teaching kids to read until 3rd grade.
This isn't true. Montessori aims to have kids reading by the time they end Kindergarten.
My bump app has been weird so I haven't been as active as I want to be this last week or so. Im a day late, but here's my UO:
While I recognize that I'm fortunate to get to spend precious moments with my DD since I'm a SAHM, I feel frustrated that it's kind of seen as not okay for SAHM's to complain, because being a SAHM is always seen as a total 100% privilege. It's unfair that I have to preface every vent about my hardships as a SAHM with "I am so lucky to be home, but..." because imo, I don't always feel lucky or privileged, and I certainly don't find it happier or easier or better than a working mom's life. We've all got our own set of challenges. I just feel that it's often overlooked that as a SAHM (and in my case, a young SAHM who has no education and little work experience) I've put my entire life on hold to raise these kids until school starts in a few years. That's a huge sacrifice, man. I just think the sacrifices SAHMs make to raise their kids are often overlooked.
@npkat DEFINITELY pooped over here with my first. I was horrified in the moment, but looking back, eh, I successfully pushed a baby out, what do you expect?!! Hubby hasn’t said anything other than confirming I did when I asked him. He said, “how WOULDN’T someone poop having to push like that, I’d have to be emptied out or I would poop all over the place!”
My UO is that essential oils are not a stand-in for medicine, and please stop telling me that if I just rubbed oil xyz on my lymph nodes/chest/feet that my asthma/IBS/chronic migraines would be cured. K thx bai.
This!!! I went to one of the "meetings" of the oil users with my mom, and they were talking how it helped a friend of a friend of a friend cure cancer, and it helps so-and-so with the flu better than the medicine... It was driving me nuts! I didn't buy in to it, but my Mom did a little bit. She doesn't think it cures cancer, but every time I talk to her now about how I'm feeling, she tries to tell me to use this or that oil to cure my problems. Just stop! It just makes me not what to talk to her about stuff
@pregobeth We have a friend who is super into EOs and she doesn’t give her kids medicine, she just “treats” them with oils. (They’re also unvaccinated and get sick allllll the time.) She’s tried to get me into selling them because I’m a massage therapist but I have literally negative interest.
@npkat I was terrified of pooping because I thought my H would make fun of me forever. I pooped with our first and I knew it because she was cleaning it. I started apologizing to her and laughing because: laughing gas. H and I both laughed about it once but it wasn’t humiliating like I thought it would have been.
Oh also if you homeschool your kids I assume 80% of the time they got a substandard education. Same for if you sent your kids to Waldorf or similar. (ETA yes I know some people homeschool their kids and it can be the best thing ever. But I think they are significantly in the minority)
I have a very good friend who was homeschooled by her mom, and she and all of her siblings are exceptionally smart and successful as adults. I have noticed that they are lacking in the pop culture department, which is kinda funny at times, but in the grand scheme of things, that doesn't seem all too important.
I think I generally agree with you, though. I think they are probably in the minority and can credit their mother, who just happened to be exactly the type of person who can successfully home school (extremely smart and educated and committed).
I am curious as to how Waldorf relates to that though? I don't know anything about that program really but thought it was similar to Montessori.
Waldorf (and Montessori) can be excellent for pre-K type programs but have extremely unusual practices as kids get further on. Like not teaching kids to read until 3rd grade.
This isn't true. Montessori aims to have kids reading by the time they end Kindergarten.
My personal experience...but my parents paid lots of money to put me in a Montessori School and they did not teach me to read. My parents eventually switched me to public in second grade, because I couldn't read, and I was put in some special reading club that took me out of class and taught me to read and write. By fifth grade I was in AG reading and writing, so it wasn't a learning disability. It was most definitely the teaching practices at the Montessori. I am not saying they are all like this, but her statement definitely holds some weight.
Oh also if you homeschool your kids I assume 80% of the time they got a substandard education. Same for if you sent your kids to Waldorf or similar. (ETA yes I know some people homeschool their kids and it can be the best thing ever. But I think they are significantly in the minority)
I have a very good friend who was homeschooled by her mom, and she and all of her siblings are exceptionally smart and successful as adults. I have noticed that they are lacking in the pop culture department, which is kinda funny at times, but in the grand scheme of things, that doesn't seem all too important.
I think I generally agree with you, though. I think they are probably in the minority and can credit their mother, who just happened to be exactly the type of person who can successfully home school (extremely smart and educated and committed).
I am curious as to how Waldorf relates to that though? I don't know anything about that program really but thought it was similar to Montessori.
Waldorf (and Montessori) can be excellent for pre-K type programs but have extremely unusual practices as kids get further on. Like not teaching kids to read until 3rd grade.
This isn't true. Montessori aims to have kids reading by the time they end Kindergarten.
For that specific thing i was talking about Waldorf. Montessori isn't as extreme but is less structured. Which hey, some parents really like.
@pregobeth We have a friend who is super into EOs and she doesn’t give her kids medicine, she just “treats” them with oils. (They’re also unvaccinated and get sick allllll the time.) She’s tried to get me into selling them because I’m a massage therapist but I have literally negative interest.
I get hit up with EO sales pitches all the time because I seem like I might be crunchy, but I am not. All my more natural or organic approached are backed by science and environmental factors. I do use them for cleaning, but otherwise I can't really get into them for healthcare purposes. The big companies are so expensive and they often push ingesting them which is terrible for you. I definitely won't support that.
I use EOs only to make my house smell nice because I can't be trusted with candles or even wax melts.
In a moment of sad desperation during infertility struggles I attempted to make some sort of blend that you were supposed to roll on your abdomen and it was supposed to improve your fertility. Such bullshit. You know what worked? IVF.
@pregobeth We have a friend who is super into EOs and she doesn’t give her kids medicine, she just “treats” them with oils. (They’re also unvaccinated and get sick allllll the time.) She’s tried to get me into selling them because I’m a massage therapist but I have literally negative interest.
I get hit up with EO sales pitches all the time because I seem like I might be crunchy, but I am not. All my more natural or organic approached are backed by science and environmental factors. I do use them for cleaning, but otherwise I can't really get into them for healthcare purposes. The big companies are so expensive and they often push ingesting them which is terrible for you. I definitely won't support that.
Ingesting them....so, like, literally drinking the Kool-Aid...
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@jeanbean15 I mean this very sincerely, it sounds like you're struggling with how things are right now and I hope that you're able to find some ways to improve your stress points and feel more balanced. Maybe once you get past the newborn phase, you could come up with a different division of labor that would let you start chipping away at more education, one online class at a time--if you want. I just saw the part about putting your life on hold and want you to not feel that way.
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@bettyvonsomethingstein yep! The theory behind them pushing ingesting them is that you consume more and then you purchase more. It is bad for your system if you do that. I was in a great group called Crunchy Skeptics on FB that this issue was brought up in a lot. Credible EO sales reps that have their certification will tell you that they are only to be used for topic use, cleaning, and diffusing.
@jeanbean15 I hear you. I left my nursing job (where I was valued and respected) to SAH. I love being home with my kids. Love it. But I agree it is absolutely a sacrifice. My H literally never has to think twice before staying late at work, making appointments, etc... because I’m always there. Going back to work won’t be an option for me for awhile (even if I wanted to), because of my H’s job’s unpredictability. So in some ways I’m ‘stuck’ too.
@npkat Don't worry about pooping during labour...shit happens. Literally. The nurses I had were so discrete and just clean it up. They are medical professionals and a little poop isn't going to bother them. They've seen it all before. And for your SO, if you have a vaginal birth, poop will be the last thing he's looking at.
@npkat I totally pooped during labor and by the time I was pushing I didn't give a crap (pun intended?!). Those nurses had been all up in my biz all day and I always figure no matter what they see down there on me, they've seen worse!!!
@npkat just going to back up PP... I pooped during labor. At that point IDGAF. I don’t know if MH noticed or not. We didn’t talk about it. I only know I did because I saw it while the nurse was grabbing the sheet and approximately two seconds later MH was holding our baby and I forgot everything then. I was a little freaked out about pooping after birth because the nurse was so serious when she was “preparing” me and giving me the Colace and other instructions. As I vaguely recall, the fear of pooping was more monumental than the actual poop.
Also, re: unicorn poop, like @kiki75’s gif... you cannot mention it, @Cowboycorgi, and my mind not go straight to the squatty potty and unicorn poop commercial.
Thanks to all the responders on the delivery poop.. haha! I know it won't be a big deal per se... they see it everyday and it doesn't mortify me if my husband sees it, but I am like dang what if I stink up the whole room with my poo or something. My husband and I have already had multiple conversations about this hahaha
By the end, it was almost impossible for me to poo between the pressure, hemorrhoids and who knows what else. Pooing at delivery would have been sweet relief for my body...
I pooped with #2- they cleaned it up so fast I wasn't sure that it happened but DH saw it.
My mom always told me about how she ate a bunch of corn on the cob and watermelon the day before she had my sister and pooped- I never ate those things close to my due date because that would be horrible.
The post partum poop was worse with #1 because I tore worse. It wasn't wonderful with #2 either but a little less painful. It makes you feel almost like you're having another baby.
Re: UO Thursday
Great point about some parents abusing the home school system @LiveNLove44. Admittedly, the majority of my interaction is with academically driven kids. There's obviously a wide range of education and experiences in that community. My favorite, and probably most beneficial, class in college was Skeptical, Critical, and Logical Thinking. I agree that it should be taught in high school and college. Subject content can change, be forgotten, not be applicable to your future career, etc. but the ability to think critically is a skill that is useful in all areas in life.
EDD March 12, 2018
Im a day late, but here's my UO:
While I recognize that I'm fortunate to get to spend precious moments with my DD since I'm a SAHM, I feel frustrated that it's kind of seen as not okay for SAHM's to complain, because being a SAHM is always seen as a total 100% privilege. It's unfair that I have to preface every vent about my hardships as a SAHM with "I am so lucky to be home, but..." because imo, I don't always feel lucky or privileged, and I certainly don't find it happier or easier or better than a working mom's life. We've all got our own set of challenges. I just feel that it's often overlooked that as a SAHM (and in my case, a young SAHM who has no education and little work experience) I've put my entire life on hold to raise these kids until school starts in a few years. That's a huge sacrifice, man. I just think the sacrifices SAHMs make to raise their kids are often overlooked.
I went to one of the "meetings" of the oil users with my mom, and they were talking how it helped a friend of a friend of a friend cure cancer, and it helps so-and-so with the flu better than the medicine... It was driving me nuts! I didn't buy in to it, but my Mom did a little bit. She doesn't think it cures cancer, but every time I talk to her now about how I'm feeling, she tries to tell me to use this or that oil to cure my problems. Just stop! It just makes me not what to talk to her about stuff
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In a moment of sad desperation during infertility struggles I attempted to make some sort of blend that you were supposed to roll on your abdomen and it was supposed to improve your fertility. Such bullshit. You know what worked? IVF.
Married: June 2011
TTC since Feb 2016
BFP#1: 7/7/16 MMC: 8/16/16
BFP#2: 5/8/17 - CP
BFP#3: 6/27/17 EDD: 3/10/18
I don't even remember my post birth poop...
I pooped teal/aqua while pushing! I’m a beautiful unicorn!
Married: June 2011
TTC since Feb 2016
BFP#1: 7/7/16 MMC: 8/16/16
BFP#2: 5/8/17 - CP
BFP#3: 6/27/17 EDD: 3/10/18
That's the funniest thing I've read all day! I now have a new birth goal...
/ded
Also, re: unicorn poop, like @kiki75’s gif... you cannot mention it, @Cowboycorgi, and my mind not go straight to the squatty potty and unicorn poop commercial.
By the end, it was almost impossible for me to poo between the pressure, hemorrhoids and who knows what else. Pooing at delivery would have been sweet relief for my body...
My mom always told me about how she ate a bunch of corn on the cob and watermelon the day before she had my sister and pooped- I never ate those things close to my due date because that would be horrible.
The post partum poop was worse with #1 because I tore worse. It wasn't wonderful with #2 either but a little less painful. It makes you feel almost like you're having another baby.