May FET

caseyw8784 · May 2017

@hbomb513 - FX for good luck today! can't wait to hear how it goes!

@fivetimesnoluck - I'm so glad that you had a good report today! It must be a bit of a relief now, yea? I'm glad your RE is being so thorough and will be meeting with you with extra checking that things are going ok. My RE called me today, and when I saw the phone number i panicked, but she was just calling to see how i am feeling after the transfer last week - i thought it was a nice gesture!

How many dpt are you now? How far along are you considered? I know most ppl get the US around the 6th week, but how far is that after the beta test? It's all so confusing...lol

kris031409 · May 2017

Just heard back, third beta is 708! One more beta on Wednesday, then us any day next week.

caseyw8784 I'm 14dtp now, and I'll be considered 5 weeks tomorrow or Wednesday, depending on which calculator I use online.

caseyw8784 · May 2017

@kris031409 - wow, that's a great 3rd beta!! yay! is it making it feel more real now?

AFM, i was driving back from doing errands at lunch, and my cell rang and I saw it was my RE. of course my first reaction was, "shit." But she was calling to check in with me since i'm 1/2 way through the 2ww today! I thought that was a nice gesture. I did ask her if I might be able to come in on Friday instead of Saturday for my beta (we now have plans to be in Rhode Island this weekend with Neil's cousin and her husband from Friday night through Sunday night) but my RE was hesitant about doing it early. I didn't tell her that I've already tested with a positive line, but oh well. Now I get to wake up at 5 am on Saturday to drive 90 minutes to the office lab! At least I should be back in RI around 8:30, and if i'm nice i'll pick up some breakfast for everyone on my way back...

JESSABER0414 · May 2017

I was told if it was a 5 day transfer that on transfer day you are two weeks 5 days pregnant. So, 14 days later you're 4wks 5 days. Hope that helps!

cmiller73 · May 2017

@caseyw8784 you GO girl

Just had to jump in and say that!

hbomb513 · May 2017

Thanks for the well wishes ladies! Transfer went great. Our two beautiful popsicles are in the oven hopefully getting snuggled and cozy!

@caseyw8784 squee! That is so exciting! I have no idea how you're going to be able to keep that secret - I would shout it from the rooftops!

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caseyw8784 · May 2017

@cmiller73 - thanks!!

@hbomb513 - woohoo! congrats on being PUPO! those are beautiful embryos...FX that they're getting ready for the long haul!

Hoping10 · May 2017

@hbomb513 Yay! Congrats! FX for those beautiful embryos!!

krenee124 · May 2017

Anyone been down this path? I'd love for stars to align for me just once ... but wouldn't we all!

Last month FET was cancelled bc lining was too thin. We jump started period with Provera and all was going well. Last Thursday lining was at 8 and follicle was at 13. We were doing Femara days 3-7, Estrace vaginally on day 5-current. Idea would be we would trigger follicle (sorta like IUI) and instead of IUI they would implant embryos when time was right. Last 3 evenings I did stims (Menopur and Follistim) as if I was doing IVF to plump up follicle. went in today for u/s to determine size of follicle, when to trigger, and FET date and.... lining has gone backwards

we are now measuring at 6.2 at the absolute thickest and follicle is still 13. Doctor has me doing 3 more days of Follistim and then we will re-eval on Thursday.

Has anyone been in my situation and how did it pan out? Sadly, I'm not all that hopeful. My RE was SHOCKED. He said 3+ times he was so sorry and didn't expect this at all. Feeling defeated today

sorry to bring negativity to the board but need advice, guidance, reassurance, & the brutal
honest truth!

Hopeful_mom · May 2017

whoa this board has been busy! guess i'll try and catch up! Work was crazy and i'm still so wound up for my ER tomorrow.

@hbomb513 congrats on being pupo! Such lovely looking embabies, a keeper for the photo album!!

caseyw8784 you are cracking me up! really surprised ur RE wouldn't give in to u! Really sweet they followed up, mine only calls to try and answer all my unanswered questions

congrats on the squinter praying it gets darker each and every day for u!!

krenee124 sorry things are going as planned this cycle for you. I haven't been in that position yet. I just hear of some different things people try to eat to help by dr google.

kris031409 @fivetimesnoluck - nice betas ladies!! enjoy it and let the good news continue!!

kris031409 · May 2017

@hbomb513 congrats on being PUPO!!! They're beautiful!

caseyw8784 have your lines been getting darker?? How have you been doing keeping a straight face around DH? Have you decided how to tell him?

krenee124 I don't have that specific experience, but I had thin lining for my first clomid cycle (a 6), after that I drank red raspberry leaf tea 3x a day and my lining was always above 9. Not sure if it's the tea that did it, but it can't hurt!

JESSABER0414 kaseycoco whitebarley How is the TWW going? Plans to POAS before beta?

fivetimesnoluck have you scheduled your US yet? My RE said I can come in any day next week. Tough decision but I think I'm leaning towards trying to get a Friday appointment for a better chance of seeing a HB.

Hopeful_mom good luck with retrieval today! Can't wait to hear the great results!

Hoping10 · May 2017

@krenee124 I'm so sorry!! That's very upsetting. I have not had lining issues, but I have researched/listened to my acupuncturist on what helps the lining if you want to try adding some foods in and FX it helps- Brazil nuts (selenium helps lining) and only need like 1-2 a day, lots of red foods (raspberries, pomegranate, beets). My acupuncturist stresses only warm foods (no raw veggies, cold foods). Speaking of which, have you tried acupuncture yet? Hope this can help you a little bit and I'm pulling for you for good news on Thursday!

krenee124 · May 2017

@Hopeful_mom @kris031409 @Hoping10 thank you all. You better believe I'm buying this tea at lunch.. & I regularly eat lots of red berries & fruit but they are cold .. I'll do my best to research some of this. Selenium as well.

I have no done acupuncture. I have told myself to limit googling. When I first found out about our diagnosis I googled everything and became a mess. I have only heard of acupuncture helping with releasing stress which can in return help all problems around infertility. Do you know of studies showing lining health specifically? My RE doesn't push acupuncture, but there is on RE in Cinci area who recommends it for everyone. I will consider! Not completely writing off this cycle but it's amazing how we have a "feeling" or intuition about this stuff.

ladies with amazing beta numbers - you are continuing to give me hope! Keep sharing

ladies with transfers this week - best of luck!!!

hbomb513 · May 2017

@krenee124 I'm so sorry, it totally sucks when things unexpectedly don't go your way. I can't think of why your lining would have shrunk? It sounds like you still have some time, so I second what the other gals are saying - I did acupuncture, pomegranate juice, and brazil nuts. Just know though, that some things are out of our control, and just because things aren't going as planned doesn't mean you did ANYTHING wrong (also means that all the brazil nuts in the world wouldn't have changed things).

@caseyw8784 We know you've peed on more sticks lol...is your line getting darker??

@hopefulmom Good luck today!

AFM, I've been pretty crampy since transfer yesterday, but I know it's just post-procedural stuff. Is anyone else as paranoid as I am about every single thing they lift, every time they twist, get up from the couch, or lean a certain way?? Especially now since I feel so crampy, if I do something to cause a twinge I get SO scared I just dislodged an embaby. I know, I know, I'm crazy...but that's what IF does to us I guess...

whitebarley · May 2017

@hbomb513 - Yes! just this morning I was stretching in bed and felt a sharp pinch on my left side and was convinced I had killed my embryo, haha. then of course i read up on it and i know, rationally, that is impossible. you can't help but feel this overwhelming sense of guilt at having to move though! Also - your embies are beautiful. After looking at everyone else's, I have no idea how mine is actually a 4AC. My embryologist couldn't have lied, right? That would be . . stupid.

Glad people are getting some nice calls from their RE's. It is terrifying to think that the next call I get will be with BHCG results.

Today is 4dp5dt and as of this moment I'm not feeling anything, but I have had consistent pinching/aching on what must be the right side of my uterus. Yesterday my right boob was more sore than my left but now they are equal - I don't put stock into boob soreness though, since mine are always sore in the LP. The pinching/aching though . . . I think I will be seriously annoyed if it turns out to be nothing. How can progesterone cause that on one side only?!

caseyw8784 · May 2017

@krenee124 - I've always heard that pomegranate juice will help with the lining. and fresh raspberries. I've never had issues with lining before, but I drank 1/2 cup - 1 cup each night and my lining was thicker than it's ever been (that i can remember)

@hbomb513 - i felt like that! also (and this is so stupid) but the irrational side of me was worried that every cough and sneeze would make it "fall out" of me...

@Hopeful_mom - good luck at your ER today! looking forward to hearing an update and how it went!

@kris031409 - if i had the choice of when to go in for an ultrasound....that would be a hard choice! part of me would want to go asap to see, but like you said, waiting a bit to hopefully hear the heartbeat. If my betas end up being good, I will be 6 weeks (according to those online calculators lol) on June 1st when we fly to LA for a week...so i would want to go the few days before but only be 5+ weeks, or wait until back and would be 7+ weeks at that point...lol

AFM, you all know me too well if y'all know that i've been peeing on all the things! on the wondfos, lines are just a teeny bit darker, but that was also an older batch of wondfos so they may not be as good as they used to be. on the FRER it's an honest-to-god line now! and last night i was curious so i used a frer digital and it said "yes+"! I'm feeling hopefully confident that I'll have a good beta on Saturday, but i'll probably still test each morning or every other until then to make sure the lines are still there/darker. i freely admit, i'm a poas addict

@kris031409 - I was lucky that DH was working yesterday so i didn't have to be around him a lot...haha! He's home today and so far it's ok, but i just want to tell him! As for how to tell him...i do have that "even firefighters go poop!" book that i had mentioned before, so i want to incorporate that somehow. I saw on etsy, someone knits these fire boot booties in newborn size, so i ordered a pair of them on rush, so they'll get there by friday. He's working the day shift, so i'm going to try to plan it that I'll have the book, the boots, and maybe an hpt from that morning on the kitchen island or on the bed (wrapped, maybe? dunno yet) and when he gets home I'll be packing our bags (since we're going to RI that night) or something, and thinking of telling him something like, "i got a new pair of shoes today...while i finish up, take a look and tell me what you think?" I just bought a new pair of sneakers and a couple pairs of shoes for the summer just this past week, so i know me saying that will annoy him a bit and he won't be even thinking of any baby stuff so hopefully it will surprise him...

whitebarley · May 2017

@caseyw8784 - that's awesome! a digital means this is well and truly happening!

@hopefulmom - best of luck today!

@krenee124 - i think i almost single handedly kept POM in business while gearing up for transfer. no idea of there's truth to the myth but my lining did grow . . . i stopped the herbal teas after retrieval but i think pom juice and brazil nuts are worth a shot.

JESSABER0414 · May 2017

@kris031409 symptoms past 2 days, bloated, nauseous and a tad bit of cramping. I'm feeling hopeful but since promised DH I wouldn't test I'm just counting hours and morning pees until I can actually POAS. The nausea is new from my last FET, cramping has been consistently off and on Since day 1 post transfer. Heartburn started Monday too. I don't get that and hope it's a good sign!

kris031409 · May 2017

@caseyw8784 woo hoo for turning a digital!

caseyw8784 · May 2017

@JESSABER0414 - that's all good signs, right? Did you promise DH that you would not test at all ahead of time, or waiting to a certain day? I can't remember if you had mentioned before... I've been getting some heartburn too...Tums are okay to take, right? i haven't used any yet, just chewed on some candied ginger and it has helped so far...

JESSABER0414 · May 2017

I think so! Yes TUMS are ok. We go for beta on Friday and he doesnt see the point of going through a disappointing day or so when we have to go to md anyway. But I have a feeling I would test positive tomorrow.

caseyw8784 · May 2017

(Dear diary, haha) Today I'm starting to notice the bloat. My pants are very uncomfortable right now and all I want to do if go home and change into yoga pants! oy...

kaseycoco · May 2017

@caseyw8784 congrats on the digital +! Also, your idea of telling your husband is SO cute, I love the, "I got a new pair of shoes" line. How exciting

@krenee124 as someone else mentioned red raspberry leaf tea (1-2cups a day) really helped my lining. I also did a yoga pose called 'legs up the wall' which is exactly what it sounds like. It's supposed to encourage blood flow to the uterus. I did both of those things this cycle and not sure which one helped but neither could hurt. Good luck!
@JESSABER0414 sounds like promising symptoms, will you break down and secretly pee on a stick tomorrow??

@hbomb513 and @whitebarley I'm with you on the feeling crampy and worrying about everything. I have a fur baby and he's just 1 year old, every time he pulls unexpectedly on the leash I freak out. Trying to remain calm and hope my embaby is settling in and getting cozy for the long run

JESSABER0414 · May 2017

@kaseycoco well, we talked about and I feel strongly that I couldn't deal with a negative for 2 days before beta, so the mystery lives! I told how confident I was and he was like ok, them go ahead. But something is making me hold onto to that ignorance is bliss!

krenee124 · May 2017

Thank you ALL for your recommendations. Time will tell - I'm nervous for Thursday but appt is early am so that helps!

Love all this bloating, cramping, weird feeling stuff going on! @JESSABER0414 you're a strong woman holding out for doctors appt!!

hbomb513 · May 2017

@JESSABER0414 I know that feeling all too well of holding on to the mystery! I think I'm justifying the POAS by telling myself, "This either worked or it didn't. Peeing on this stick isn't changing the outcome whatsoever". That doesn't account for the emotional roller coaster when we test too soon though! Happy to hear you're feeling positive!

@kaseycoco I have two dogs, one is 70lbs and the other is about 15lbs! I walked them yesterday but was super careful not to yank or pull on them.

@caseyw8784 Congrats on turning a digital!! That must be so exciting to see!

AFM, Oh lord, let the symptom spotting begin...I generally feel like sh*t today - headache, cramps, sore boobs, constipation, and generally super sore muscles, which I can't really figure out. Everything else is probably due to progesterone. Yesterday I felt some uterine twinges, but that could just as easily be due to the procedure itself. How am I gonna survive the next 8 days? I'm feeling very grateful for you gals right now!

caseyw8784 · May 2017

@hbomb513 - Yea, it was exciting to see! I think I'm now going to try not to POAS on anything else until Friday and/or Saturday...the better quality tests (aka, anything other than wondfos, lol) can be quite....expensive

And the lines are still getting darker so I need to not obsess over it for the next few days!

Yea, progesterone sucks cause it mimics all the "good" symptoms!

I'm not sure that I'm feeling many, and I'm not sure if that's freaking me out or not. Really, if it wasn't for the hpts, I wouldn't think anything was happening! I've been having a headache but there's been crazy high levels of pollen around here the past week or so, and i can't take benadryl or sudafed, and zyrtec helps only a little! lol. I also some twinges/slight cramps but for a while i know that was due to the procedure, like you said. I'm been a bit more bloated and tired, but that's the most of it. This whole process is such a mind-fuck! (pardon the French

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whitebarley · May 2017

@caseyw8784 - total mind fuck. French need not be pardoned. :-) I think your plan is a good one.

@hbomb513 - yup. i feel the same way again today. yesterday, i was also freaking out because my embryo doesn't look like anyone else's (including yours) and i convinced myself that my RE actually lied about mine being graded 4AC. (who would even think that?! it makes no sense. i am insane.) I also felt like complete shit last night - like I had the flu, but felt better this morning.

Guys, I'm feeling really down and out today. The niggling/aching that was in my right uterus (or felt like it) has all but disappeared. My boobs are sore but so what. I am less interested in food than usual, but I think that could also be the progesterone. Also, almost every single person I'm following who has done a FET just got a BFP. Statistically speaking, another one of us has to get some bad news, and I just really feel like that's gotta be me. It's like when graded exams are being handed out on a curve, and you see all your friends are getting A's . . . you just think that you are the sucker who is going to get a C-. I am obviously thrilled for everyone! I just wish these damn stats weren't whispering in my ear the whole time, if you know what I mean. It's like there are never-ending ways of torturing yourself in this process! Anyway, sorry to be a downer on this board, but I guess I'm kind of going crazy. Still holding out to Sunday to POAS, though!

kris031409 · May 2017

whitebarley I felt the same way most of my TWW, it's the worst. As far as the embryo, the pic I posted was before freezing, here's that one along with the pic of the embryo after it was thawed, so you can see how different the same embryo looks on different days. I agree with your previous post, lying about the grading would be stupid, and unethical. Success rates for FET are so high, we can all be on the good side of that statistic

Sending all of my most positive thoughts to you for a positive result!

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whitebarley · May 2017

omg @kris031409 -I could hug you right now, seriously! So that's what a blast looks like fully hatched, eh? You are right that my pic is of little 4Alice after they had thawed her. I was just like . . . wait, the zona is still thick, I can't even make out the inner cell mass, what is going on here?! And I guess the other pictures I've seen were of fresh transfers, so there was no freezing or thawing involved . . .

I also love what you just said about FET success rates. I truly, truly hope you are right and really appreciate your positive vibes! xx

Hopeful_mom · May 2017

Hi ladies I see I have a lot to catch up on...so glad things are moving in the right direction for so many of u!!
ER was ok but not as expected, I was hoping my body would surprise me with an extra like last time but instead my largest follie was empty and gave me nothing

First time thats happened so I couldn't not stop crying after retrieval. So I only got 4 eggs and 1 of the 4 didn't seem as mature...which makes my anger grow as I could've stemmed another day making it mature especially since the big one I triggered for was empty.

3 of them fertilized which I'm happy about but they still have along way to go to be biopsied. I hate that I'm so down about it when I should be hopeful but the thought of doing another ivf cycle does not excite me in the slightest. I will wait to see if these 3 make it and take it from there. I really should've just done a fresh transfer with this batch since there are so few. Every egg counts so i'm just frustrated that they sacrificed the smaller one for the bigger one and lost both in the end.

@caseyw8784 - turning a digital is amazing - congrats!! Take a photo of it as they dont last forever...I know cause mine is now blank boooo.

whitebarley i really understanding how you're feeling, I actually felt that way more on the other boards the next step which you will all be on soon. (TW) Everyone was doing great and no one had a MC and then I was the one at 10 wk that it happened to and I felt like it was bound to happen to somebody and sucks that I'm the one it happened to. I would tell others to stop worrying and so far everyone else that got preggers at the same time is now in their 2nd and 3rd trimester. (TW) Try to stay positive I know its hard! And the symptoms are constant and come and go.

caseyw8784 · May 2017

@kris031409 - i feel better about how my embryos looked now, too!

@whitebarley - i also think either the March or April FET boards had a 100% success rate! i don't feel like i have many/any "real" symptoms, other than no restraint with POASing on when it's usually too early... hehe

JESSABER0414 · May 2017

I totally get the feeling about the group and being worried about the stats. BUT, I try to remember MY journey, literally has nothing to do with anyone else's! My husband used to tell me that it's not like there are a limited number of babies on a shelf and other women took yours! At first, I hated him for it because it didn't make me feel better with 24 months of BFNs! But I've grown to realize that no matter what happened, I wasn't not getting pregnant because an old co-worker had heard 3rd kid, or my cousin on gov't assistance with a 7 year old used her baby daddy's sperm to impregnate herself in the bathroom. So - believe in your own journey and realize on here we are all 1 in 8....xoxox to you all

whitebarley · May 2017

Awww, I love you guys! Seriously. The positive affirmation you can get on these boards is truly priceless, especially if you don't really have anyone to talk to about this stuff in real life (which I don't, other than my husband, and it's not the same).

@caseyw8784 hearing about that 100% success rate on the other board makes me really happy. :-)

@hopefulmom sending you a big hug. So, I was following one girl who only got 6 eggs retrieved, but only 4 were mature. Only one made it to blast. although they did a fresh transfer, not only did it work, but that embryo split! and she's now in the second trimester with identical twins. i know it is really hard to stay positive in that phase after ER (and I am probably the WORST person to give this advice right now) but I have faith that at least one will pull through. I have just seen too many stories of success with small numbers, given that it is quality over quantity. (like, i had 49 eggs retrieved but apparently the vast majority were shit!) is it too late to opt to do a fresh transfer? also it sucks about sacrificing the small one, but I think all the docs can do in these situations is make educated guesses. sigh, i guess that's all *any* of us can do in this clusterfuck of IF. you and they did what you could based on the information you had. and perhaps if you had stimmed one or two more days to get the smaller one to catch up the others would have been overripe? in other words, try not to let anger be the emotion of the moment. you can stress about whether your babies will grow, for sure - but try to distract yourself with good netflix and hulu shows. That's how i got through that godawful week. :-)

kaseycoco · May 2017

@hopefulmom I'm sorry you didn't get as many eggs as you were expecting. That's such a bummer the big one ended up being empty. It's so frustrating that they just don't know what to expect from the follicles before the retrieval. And I know it's been said before, but you only need one! I'm keeping my FX the 3 you have do well though. I know the next few days are agonizing waiting to find out the progress. Keep us posted.

And @whitebarley I was totally feeling the same thing about stats, but hearing other boards have had such success is definitely reaffirming. But I love @JESSABER0414 that line "it's not like there are a limited number of babies on a shelf and other women took yours!" because sometimes it definitely feels that way!! But I've also had to remind myself that other women getting pregnant has nothing to do with my outcome. I actually have a friend who is going through IVF right now too and often worry, 'what if it works for one of us and not the other.' I feel like stats are not on our side, but I'm hoping it works out for all of us and her too.

caseyw8784 · May 2017

@Hopeful_mom - So sorry to hear that you didn't get as many as expected! That's a real bummer, especially with the largest being empty! Crossing all the fingers and toes that the 3 are doing well and will end up being good ones!

whitebarley · May 2017

@JESSABER0414 - aren't you testing today?? fx for you!

hbomb513 · May 2017

@Hopeful_mom I'm so sorry things didn't go as planned. FX your three grow big and strong!

@JESSABER0414 "Everyone has their own journey" has been my lifeline since starting TTC years ago. Working in the NICU and surrounded by coworkers who were on their second kids when I started TTC before they had their first! I have to force myself to remember that their journey, their happiness, has nothing to do with mine. Thanks for reinforcing! I saw on the spreadsheet you're testing tomorrow, GOOD LUCK!!

@whitebarley I have no idea how embryologists grade embabies (mine never gave me a A,B etc grade, just a good/good, good/fair). I'm sure there are many, many things we don't understand about the process, so don't fret! They wouldn't lie to you. I can't remember, are you planning on POAS before beta?

AFM, I truly felt like poo yesterday, I didn't get up from the couch all day. I felt like I had the flu. No uterine twinges to speak of though

I feel better today. I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing. I watched a youtube video of a lady getting her beta test results live. Before the test, she was talking about how it was really hard for her to be optimistic, because even though this was her first IVF cycle, she had been trying for SO long. She had never seen/had a BFP. She said, "I want to be positive, but this is me, and I don't get pregnant!" (hers was positive, btw). That's exactly how I'm feeling today. This is me, why would this have worked? I don't get pregnant! I need to do some positive affirmations today.

whitebarley · May 2017

@hbomb513 - I think I watched the exact same video! Was she sitting in her car after she gave her blood? She was such a sweetheart, I'm really glad it worked out for them. And yes, that is exactly how I am feeling about myself.

I also just found out that my great aunt passed away last night. Her funeral is on Sunday so I will be going directly to a funeral after finding out whether I'm pregnant. Oh, and my dad is staying with us Saturday night since we are near the airport, so my dad will be with us when I POAS. Awesome timing! I don't think I could keep my reaction a secret either way, so there goes keeping that cat in the bag. Although maybe it's a blessing that Sunday will no longer be about me.

Hoping10 · May 2017

@Hopeful_mom I'm so sorry you didn't get as many as you were hoping for! So frustrating..FX that the ones you have are strong!

@hbomb513 I totally understand where you're coming from- I've never seen a positive pregnancy test and it's so hard to imagine it actually working. I keep telling myself that FET has much much higher chances of working..

@whitebarley I'm so sorry about the death in your family and also about the crappy timing!!

Saw RE this morning for post op after hysterscopy. She said biopsy results of polyp were normal, as were all my immunology blood results. Also she did share some reassuring statistics- 2nd FET cycles has an 88% chance of pregnancy and 3rd FET cycles has a 95% chance of pregnancy...I'm going to try and hold on to that through this cycle. I go back for monitoring Monday, most likely start PIO Friday and then transfer May 31..I should be just making it in time for this May group.. lol. Oh and it'll be a girl embryo being transferred

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