So, I get that there are issues that people have that may not be visible, but with that said, I hate when people will crowd up an elevator and wait 5 minutes or more for 1 flight of stairs. Especially if you can take the stairs. If you can't for whatever reason, that's fine, it's what the elevator is for, but in general, it seems like people have an aversion to using the stairs or only take the elevator no matter the wait just to go up or down one floor.
@erindippity I totally see where you are coming from. My office building has 4 elevator and 48 floors. Takes forever for one to come. I work on the 3rd floor. I used to take the stairs everyday unti October (found 5 tumors on my thyroid, had to have the whole thyroid removed, during surgery my parathyroid got clipped and for a while my calcium levels were hard to regulate.). I now take the elevator because I get cramps in my legs when my calcium levels plummet/I have a fear that if they plummet I'll fall and won't be found (yay for pregnancy hormones for screwing with my meds and making it even harder to keep stable!). A lot of people stare at my for using it, but they can't see that I have a medical problem unless my medical id bracelet is visible or they see my huge scar on my throat that I try to conceal.
Personally, I hate when people who just lit out their cigarette hop into an elevator. I feel completely trapped! Especially now, being pregnant and all, I think it's unfair that a building can be marked a smoke free environment yet the elevators in the building can be filled with people covered in smoke.
I think it's ridiculous when people treat their pets like humans. I understand that pets are "part of the family" but they don't need clothes or birthday parties or better treatment than your kids. Flame away.
@aehogan90; I tend to agree with you on this, even though when June 11 rolls around, we do give a little extra love to our dog for her bday (no parties/clothes/shoes/anything), just maybe an extra treat. My MIL, on the other hand, goes SO FAR that she insists that the names she has given to her dog's stuff toys were given to those stuffed toys BY THE DOG...she actually thinks the dog made up the names and gets offended when people roll their eyes at her. She treats him so much like a human ... it's borderline insane.
My UO comes from a personal experience this week, and may be a bit touchy for some, so I'm ready for the flames. When someone passes away, I think social media has taken public grieving to a whole new level. I appreciate immediate family/very close friends posting something to let others know they're grieving, but when super-extended family and acquaintances are all of a sudden posting things/photos/obits and accepting "condolences" from others who would think they were close to the deceased, I question their judgement and intentions.
ETA because I confused "they're" and "their" which is just a no-no to me ... AH!
@aehogan90 I agree about the OTT people with how they treat their pets, but I will admit that we put party hats on our two dogs and give them a specia treat on their birthday/"gotcha" day. We adopted them later in their lives and feel bad that they didn't spend the majority of their lives in a loving home. But full on parties, clothes, calling them our son/daughter-
We probably treat our dog a little too much like our own kid, but as first time dog owners, and it being just the two of us, it was expected. We do buy him a new toy for his birthday/gotcha day and christmas, and he does have some clothing, but thats it. The clothes are to keep him warm and dry in the winter, becuase his breed doesnt do well in the cold/wet. I will say though, he will not be treated better than our own kid, when he comes. Oliver will get attention, but will have to entertain himself at times. I dont understand those people who go all crazy over their dog though, dressing them up every day, treating them 100% like a human, thats just odd to me.
**TW Loss/pregnancy mentioned** Married: 7/21/12
BFP: 5/30/16 and MC on 7/6/16 BFP: 12/4/16 Due 8/8/17 -- Its a boy! Born 8/14/17 BFP: 5/19/19 and MC on 5/27/19 BFP: 6/24/19, MC on 7/24/19 BFP: 10/24, no heartbeat on 11/27, D&C 12/2 Officially diagnosed with Secondary infertility and recurrent miscarriage IVF started Feb 2020 retrieval and PGT testing: 18 retrieved, 17 mature, 16 fertilized, 9 to blast, 8 PGT normal. Transfer #1: June 14, 2020
Mommy to a super cute havanesse puppy and baby boy!
@HappyToBeHere Yes to the Facebook posts about people dying. This girl I went to school with does that. It's not even extended family members, it's her husband's friend who she's never met who lost their 3rd cousin. She's one of those who posts every bit of dirty laundry she has, how many years she's been off meth, how it's unfair her husband is in jail because he had a failure to appear, how her kids are always in trouble at school (but it's never their fault), etc.
Also I have major issues with crowd funding sites like gofundme. A few years ago a guy I went to high school with killed himself. Our class VP set one up to help his wife. People also gave cash at the funeral home. I think it wound up being around 15 grand that was raised. Suddenly, her husband's loser best friend moved in with her. Dude is behind on child support and just a crappy person. She's a teacher and volley ball coach with no kids due to fertility issues. Less than 6 months after her husband died she marries the friend and uses the money to pay his bills and get a procedure done to try to get pregnant with him. I get she wants a kid, but he doesn't take care of the ones he has. Put a really bad taste in my mouth and I have a really hard time donating now because of that.
My SIL is like this with her and DH's dogs (but he is not). She even has an instagram account for each dog (plus 3 for herself) with captions as if the dog were speaking, not her about the dog.
@tova24 the cigarette thing drives me nuts too. I was at BRU over the weekend and the lady at the checkout - maybe my mom's age and very friendly - absolutely reeked of cigarettes to the point where I felt suffocated. Seemed so odd considering 50% of people in the store (being pregnant) would be offended by that stench and the possibility of 3rd hand smoke.
My UO - I don't plan on enforcing strict "family dinners" every evening. I never had them growing up (maybe once a week if schedules permitted). I think there are plenty of other things to do together as a family daily (read, cook, play sports, work on homework depending on the age of the kid) but forcing everyone to all stop what they're in the middle of or wait for one sibling to be home from an activity just makes it more of a punishment than an enjoyable thing (IMO).
@tova24 When I used to live in France, people would literally have their cigarette and lighter out IN the elevator so they could run outside to smoke when the doors opened. I honestly felt sad for them that they could not waste the 5 seconds once they're outside to get their cigarette out. Ugh.
@SouthernMama15 I can't remember if I shared this story on here...but one girl set up a Go Fund me page for a PARKING TICKET she got. What really makes that sad is that she drives a Lexus and was in a handicap spot. She got seriously flamed and the story ended up on Barstool Sports haha.
@bumpybump That meme made me laugh. I am totally that annoying person at work who brings up their dog when people are talking about their kids. Because they're totally equivalent scenarios (kidding). My dog can't say my name 1000 times, but he can whine incessantly at my feet for hours until I play with him. We'll see which becomes more annoying once LO is here. I hate clothes on dogs though - it's a DOG, he/she doesn't need a cable knit sweater to go outside.
I don't really think smokers can smell themselves or have a good understanding on how disgusting smoking is to non-smokers. They just go blind to it. It's like that messy area of our own lives that we just don't really see how gross it is until we're on the outside. Even being outside when someone is smoking is gross. I was in traffic yesterday with the person in front of me was smoking and even before I saw the cigarette I could smell it wafting into my car. I was pumped when Jersey banned smoking on public beaches last year.
My U/O is that I kinda love the morons that have no filter and put every damn bit of dirty laundry out on facebook. That's like free entertainment! I once watched the most spectacular breakup unfold on facebook between a ex-gf and the guy's sisters- drug use allegations (all true), abortions (also true), infidelity...
Together: January 2002 Married: May 2008 Baby: August 2017
Clearly we like to rush along at lightning speed...
I like to think I walk a line between being a good dog owner and obsessed dog mom. She has to wear coats and sweaters often in the winter depending on how recently her hair has gotten cut and how nasty the weather is for her required morning walk. We also always give her a gift during the holidays (which she waits to be presented with a present and then opens it herself. It's the cutest thing.).
Our dog is not a very easy dog and I joke (but mean in all seriousness) that she's been a really good starter for me to becoming a parent. Yes, parenting a child not the same and I understand that- but I've learned a lot from her in our last two years together. Who she is as a dog has helped open my eyes and shape me into someone who is more prepared to parent as compared to the person I was before we adopted her.
Together: January 2002 Married: May 2008 Baby: August 2017
Clearly we like to rush along at lightning speed...
@mango517 and @SpotConlon My IG and DHs are both full of our dog, but thats mainly becuase we never post things about ourselves. I just posted a bump update for the first time and felt super uncomfortable doing that! Our dog also has jackets and a set of boots for the winter, becuase the rain/snow/ice is really bad for his feet and he gets so cold.
**TW Loss/pregnancy mentioned** Married: 7/21/12
BFP: 5/30/16 and MC on 7/6/16 BFP: 12/4/16 Due 8/8/17 -- Its a boy! Born 8/14/17 BFP: 5/19/19 and MC on 5/27/19 BFP: 6/24/19, MC on 7/24/19 BFP: 10/24, no heartbeat on 11/27, D&C 12/2 Officially diagnosed with Secondary infertility and recurrent miscarriage IVF started Feb 2020 retrieval and PGT testing: 18 retrieved, 17 mature, 16 fertilized, 9 to blast, 8 PGT normal. Transfer #1: June 14, 2020
Mommy to a super cute havanesse puppy and baby boy!
I was going to say that my UO is that I totally am that crazy dog person and cool with it. Hahaha. The first thing we bought when we found out we were having a boy is a "Big Brother" dog shirt and a matching "Little Brother" onesie. (I should note that my dog doesn't have other clothes and will definitely not let us put the shirt on his body, but we'll probably force it on for a photo, then quickly remove it.)
@Mango517 Our dog is the same. He was a rescue who came to us with loads of baggage, and we have put in a lot of time, money, and work. But my husband and I feel we've had some good parenting prep--especially understanding the fact that you get who you get, and you love who you get. We definitely have zero expectations for who our son will be now, which makes it even more exciting to see who he is, I think.
We have a rescue dog named Charlie who was terrified of doors and men when I first brought him home. I spent a lot of time saying.."Please don't peeing on the floor again" every time he needed to cross through a door frame. Now I spend a lot of time chasing my toddler after bath time saying "please don't pee on the floor!" as he likes to run from the bathroom naked to avoid diapering and pajamas!
Count me in the fine-line dog-obsessed club! My SO and I got married at 20, and our families were bugging us literally the next day to start having kids, which we weren't ready for. So we got a puppy 3 days after our honeymoon as our "practice baby" (knowing 100% that it's nothing like having a human, of course). Both of our families are obsessed with her, our parents call her their "grand-dog" and everyone fights over who gets to keep her when we go out of town. I can't wait to see the love this HUMAN BABY will be smothered with from our families!!! (We don't dress our dog or make a huge deal for her birthday, though.)
My UO is that fruity candy is best when it's been left open for about 3-6 weeks to get stale. Especially gummies. I love old, stale gummy candy! When I go to the movies, I always ask for the display pack of whatever candy instead of a fresh one from under the counter. Fresh candies are nasty. (Gas station red vines are also the bomb! That box has been open for who knows how long and the licorice is extra chewy delicious)
I didn't realize how gross cigarettes smelled until I quit when I found out I was pregnant. My husband hasn't quit, so I've become really aware of it when he comes back inside from smoking. But to be honest, when I was a smoker, I was respectful and aware of second hand smoke (as much as possible) but didn't give any thought to third hand smoke. It wasn't malicious, it just never crossed my mind.
And to be even more honest, I loved smoking. It's probably my biggest craving. I hope that my husband quits because it makes it really hard, especially when I'm upset to not smoke. I'm committed not to!....but it's really hard some days.
@Mango517 I have to agree that my very difficult puppy was a good start to motherhood. Of course there's no comparison to a human but there are little things like no longer being able to sleep in, not being able to travel on a whim, getting used to cleaning pee, poop, puke, practicing a lot of patience when shit gets ruined, etc. I'm sure raising a child is much more demanding but I'm glad that I have a bit of experience with having a living thing depending on me to stay alive.
I totally agree about people and their fb greif. I don't like when people post about their losses on fb all the time either. My poor cousin *tw* had a really late term loss *end* and every single milestone that little boy would have had gets dragged out by my Aunt and Grandma and other cousins.. She ended up deleting her fb becuase it was so much all the time (Then she moved across the country to start over because it was like that in person too). I'm not saying to forget about people who have passed but damn chill out.
@erindippity - so proud of you for quitting! I bet it's really hard to have your husband still able to smoke and smell like it. Not the same, but I can no longer have any caffeine per my doctor (baby has an arrhythmia). Wine, coffee and chocolate were my 3 favorite things pre-pregnancy. Obviously I gave up the wine and I just haven't been into coffee, but the chocolate was my last remaining "vice" and I'm on day 3 and hate it! When DH gets back from his work trip he is going to get some serious side-eye when he eats chocolate, especially with wine.
Ugh. Can't stand smoking of any kind. It's been especially tough now that recreational marijuana has become legal in California. I am allergic to the stuff and cannot even walk past someone who had smoked it recently without my throat drying up and getting a sinus headache. Lots of people smoke it in my apartment complex, so I have different paths I take to get to my apartment depending on the time of day just to avoid it.
My U/O is fancy pregnancy portraits. You know the ones. Pregnant women in long trailing chiffon robes or some other kind of negligee with their bellies sticking out, standing in a creek or in a field, etc. I truly believe that child-bearing is one of the most beautiful things in the world... and perhaps its because some women are seeking a seeking to feel sexy/beautiful in a time when they don't always feel that way... but those portraits are just over-the-top.
I don't even get the point of salad. By the time I'm done making a salad palatable it's so unhealthy I may as well have eaten a burger, which is far more satisfying to begin with. And people who go out to lunch and buy salad- there are these specialty short-order restaurants around work that are always packed at lunch and I'm like, why are you paying $8-10 for something you could have made at home and brought with you in a recyclable container for way cheaper? The only healthy salad is one so unsatisfying that I'm going to binge on something more substantial later anyway due to hunger.
I have previously gotten on my husband's case about eating better because he used to be that guy who bought, like, a meatball sub or tacos or a pizza slice every day at lunch. I don't want him having a heart attack at age 50. He did start eating healthy salads for lunch but he has willpower far beyond mine and has actually been losing weight. Me? I just can't. (Speaking as someone who just supplemented her lunch with a Jamba Juice cookies-and-creme/banana protein shake.)
My U/O is fancy pregnancy portraits. You know the ones. Pregnant women in long trailing chiffon robes or some other kind of negligee with their bellies sticking out, standing in a creek or in a field, etc. I truly believe that child-bearing is one of the most beautiful things in the world... and perhaps its because some women are seeking a seeking to feel sexy/beautiful in a time when they don't always feel that way... but those portraits are just over-the-top.
I don't want to see the bare belly or any sexy-time vibes between the couple (not publicly, but take them if you want and keep em private). Pretty dresses and scenery or something funny I'm fine with, but I don't even like them enough to do it myself. I'm friends with our wedding photographer on FB and when she learned I was pregnant she asked if I was doing the pregnancy photos and I told her no. Just not my thing!
Bloggers. My UO is how much difficulty I have tolerating most these days. Don't get me wrong, I love me a good hair/makeup tutorial as much as anybody (does anyone else love them?!), but some are just just getting to be too much. Specifically 'Lifestyle Bloggers', I feel like they're setting women up to feel inadequate with what they have or how they dress or how their home is designed. I used to find them helpful when looking for new products or getting new ideas for things around the house, but nothing is genuine anymore. So much of what is out there is all sponsored and not something that they have a true opinion on- they're getting paid to hold that lipstick at juuuuust the right angle. I get that it is purely choice to follow them on social media and I've found that I have unfollowed about 98% of them because I hate that I already feel like I am going to be a bad mom because I am NOT going to birth my child with a full face of makeup and perfectly curled hair. It makes me so mad just scrolling through the random IG feed when I see that that is what I am maybe supposed to look like after 947 hours of labor. And not for nothing, but I know a Lifestyle Blogger personally and she is certainly not the person that she portrays on the IG/FB feed. It may or may not give me some satisfaction to know that she is putting on quite the front to her 50k+ followers. Yes, she has a beautiful home that was mostly redesigned by #sponsors, but she was usually miserable to work with.
My UO (or maybe a FFFC) is I toss out any non-immediate family Christmas Cards and Birth Annuncements with photographs on them about a month after we get them. If I kept them, I'd have a massive box full and for what reason? I also don't keep cards in general that are sent to us.
***TW in Siggy*** Me: 34 / DH: 33 Married: Nov 2011 TTC #1: Jan 2013, BFP Sept 2013, DD: June 2014 TTC #2: Aug 2016, BFP Nov 2016, DS: August 2017
@bumpybump (I don't know why I'm stuck in this box when I wasn't quoting anyone)...but I was a heartless witch this Christmas and literally threw cards away as we got them.
I'd open the card and be like "aww nice" and then toss it. I don't like hanging things on the fridge (I'm weird) - I like it to stay simple and clean looking. I'm sure that will change when LO starts bringing home school artwork!
I freakin' hate this whole fidget spinner trend. I was *secretly* so happy when 10yo DS1 broke his. I replaced it with a fidget cube that is 100% less annoying, and may actually help with his ADHD.
They've came on so huge here in the US. If it makes you feel any better, I just learned of them two weeks ago after DH mentioned how having one would help him stop taking his wedding ring off and spinning it to think.
***TW in Siggy*** Me: 34 / DH: 33 Married: Nov 2011 TTC #1: Jan 2013, BFP Sept 2013, DD: June 2014 TTC #2: Aug 2016, BFP Nov 2016, DS: August 2017
Re: UO 5/11
5.5.16 | 8.14.17 | 1.30.19
And to go along with that
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Me: 34 / DH: 33
Married: Nov 2011
TTC #1: Jan 2013, BFP Sept 2013, DD: June 2014
TTC #2: Aug 2016, BFP Nov 2016, DS: August 2017
@bumpybump truth! So hilarious.
5.5.16 | 8.14.17 | 1.30.19
My UO comes from a personal experience this week, and may be a bit touchy for some, so I'm ready for the flames. When someone passes away, I think social media has taken public grieving to a whole new level. I appreciate immediate family/very close friends posting something to let others know they're grieving, but when super-extended family and acquaintances are all of a sudden posting things/photos/obits and accepting "condolences" from others who would think they were close to the deceased, I question their judgement and intentions.
ETA because I confused "they're" and "their" which is just a no-no to me ... AH!
MIL is obsessed when they have pets. She actually called their cat DH's brother. Um, no!
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Me: 34 / DH: 33
Married: Nov 2011
TTC #1: Jan 2013, BFP Sept 2013, DD: June 2014
TTC #2: Aug 2016, BFP Nov 2016, DS: August 2017
Married: 7/21/12
BFP: 12/4/16 Due 8/8/17 -- Its a boy! Born 8/14/17
BFP: 5/19/19 and MC on 5/27/19
BFP: 6/24/19, MC on 7/24/19
BFP: 10/24, no heartbeat on 11/27, D&C 12/2
Officially diagnosed with Secondary infertility and recurrent miscarriage
IVF started Feb 2020
retrieval and PGT testing: 18 retrieved, 17 mature, 16 fertilized, 9 to blast, 8 PGT normal.
Transfer #1: June 14, 2020
Also I have major issues with crowd funding sites like gofundme. A few years ago a guy I went to high school with killed himself. Our class VP set one up to help his wife. People also gave cash at the funeral home. I think it wound up being around 15 grand that was raised. Suddenly, her husband's loser best friend moved in with her. Dude is behind on child support and just a crappy person. She's a teacher and volley ball coach with no kids due to fertility issues. Less than 6 months after her husband died she marries the friend and uses the money to pay his bills and get a procedure done to try to get pregnant with him. I get she wants a kid, but he doesn't take care of the ones he has. Put a really bad taste in my mouth and I have a really hard time donating now because of that.
@tova24 the cigarette thing drives me nuts too. I was at BRU over the weekend and the lady at the checkout - maybe my mom's age and very friendly - absolutely reeked of cigarettes to the point where I felt suffocated. Seemed so odd considering 50% of people in the store (being pregnant) would be offended by that stench and the possibility of 3rd hand smoke.
My UO - I don't plan on enforcing strict "family dinners" every evening. I never had them growing up (maybe once a week if schedules permitted). I think there are plenty of other things to do together as a family daily (read, cook, play sports, work on homework depending on the age of the kid) but forcing everyone to all stop what they're in the middle of or wait for one sibling to be home from an activity just makes it more of a punishment than an enjoyable thing (IMO).
@SouthernMama15 I can't remember if I shared this story on here...but one girl set up a Go Fund me page for a PARKING TICKET she got. What really makes that sad is that she drives a Lexus and was in a handicap spot. She got seriously flamed and the story ended up on Barstool Sports haha.
@bumpybump That meme made me laugh. I am totally that annoying person at work who brings up their dog when people are talking about their kids. Because they're totally equivalent scenarios (kidding). My dog can't say my name 1000 times, but he can whine incessantly at my feet for hours until I play with him. We'll see which becomes more annoying once LO is here. I hate clothes on dogs though - it's a DOG, he/she doesn't need a cable knit sweater to go outside.
My U/O is that I kinda love the morons that have no filter and put every damn bit of dirty laundry out on facebook. That's like free entertainment! I once watched the most spectacular breakup unfold on facebook between a ex-gf and the guy's sisters- drug use allegations (all true), abortions (also true), infidelity...
Together: January 2002
Married: May 2008
Baby: August 2017
Clearly we like to rush along at lightning speed...
Our dog is not a very easy dog and I joke (but mean in all seriousness) that she's been a really good starter for me to becoming a parent. Yes, parenting a child not the same and I understand that- but I've learned a lot from her in our last two years together. Who she is as a dog has helped open my eyes and shape me into someone who is more prepared to parent as compared to the person I was before we adopted her.
Together: January 2002
Married: May 2008
Baby: August 2017
Clearly we like to rush along at lightning speed...
Married: 7/21/12
BFP: 12/4/16 Due 8/8/17 -- Its a boy! Born 8/14/17
BFP: 5/19/19 and MC on 5/27/19
BFP: 6/24/19, MC on 7/24/19
BFP: 10/24, no heartbeat on 11/27, D&C 12/2
Officially diagnosed with Secondary infertility and recurrent miscarriage
IVF started Feb 2020
retrieval and PGT testing: 18 retrieved, 17 mature, 16 fertilized, 9 to blast, 8 PGT normal.
Transfer #1: June 14, 2020
@Mango517 Our dog is the same. He was a rescue who came to us with loads of baggage, and we have put in a lot of time, money, and work. But my husband and I feel we've had some good parenting prep--especially understanding the fact that you get who you get, and you love who you get. We definitely have zero expectations for who our son will be now, which makes it even more exciting to see who he is, I think.
My UO is that fruity candy is best when it's been left open for about 3-6 weeks to get stale. Especially gummies. I love old, stale gummy candy! When I go to the movies, I always ask for the display pack of whatever candy instead of a fresh one from under the counter. Fresh candies are nasty. (Gas station red vines are also the bomb! That box has been open for who knows how long and the licorice is extra chewy delicious)
And to be even more honest, I loved smoking. It's probably my biggest craving. I hope that my husband quits because it makes it really hard, especially when I'm upset to not smoke. I'm committed not to!....but it's really hard some days.
My U/O is fancy pregnancy portraits. You know the ones. Pregnant women in long trailing chiffon robes or some other kind of negligee with their bellies sticking out, standing in a creek or in a field, etc. I truly believe that child-bearing is one of the most beautiful things in the world... and perhaps its because some women are seeking a seeking to feel sexy/beautiful in a time when they don't always feel that way... but those portraits are just over-the-top.
I don't even get the point of salad. By the time I'm done making a salad palatable it's so unhealthy I may as well have eaten a burger, which is far more satisfying to begin with. And people who go out to lunch and buy salad- there are these specialty short-order restaurants around work that are always packed at lunch and I'm like, why are you paying $8-10 for something you could have made at home and brought with you in a recyclable container for way cheaper? The only healthy salad is one so unsatisfying that I'm going to binge on something more substantial later anyway due to hunger.
I have previously gotten on my husband's case about eating better because he used to be that guy who bought, like, a meatball sub or tacos or a pizza slice every day at lunch. I don't want him having a heart attack at age 50. He did start eating healthy salads for lunch but he has willpower far beyond mine and has actually been losing weight. Me? I just can't. (Speaking as someone who just supplemented her lunch with a Jamba Juice cookies-and-creme/banana protein shake.)
And not for nothing, but I know a Lifestyle Blogger personally and she is certainly not the person that she portrays on the IG/FB feed. It may or may not give me some satisfaction to know that she is putting on quite the front to her 50k+ followers. Yes, she has a beautiful home that was mostly redesigned by #sponsors, but she was usually miserable to work with.
Woof, that was long. Sorry about that.
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Me: 34 / DH: 33
Married: Nov 2011
TTC #1: Jan 2013, BFP Sept 2013, DD: June 2014
TTC #2: Aug 2016, BFP Nov 2016, DS: August 2017
***TW in Siggy***
Me: 34 / DH: 33
Married: Nov 2011
TTC #1: Jan 2013, BFP Sept 2013, DD: June 2014
TTC #2: Aug 2016, BFP Nov 2016, DS: August 2017